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Old 01-02-2018, 08:49 AM   #1
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Default Ebay - request for sales tax

Just a question, since this hasn't happened to me previously.

I bought a card a few days ago for $400, and sent payment on Sunday. The listing included free shipping, and there was no mention of any other costs. Last night, I received a request for ~$35 in sales tax, with the seller saying he can't absorb that cost.

Is this something the seller should have been aware of before the sale, or have others been caught unaware in such a situation? I'm not happy about paying the extra money, but it's for my collection and I don't think the seller is trying to pull a scam or anything so I'll likely just suck it up.

Just curious if others have run into this before, on either end.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:09 AM   #2
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I noticed sellers sometimes post they will charge sale's tax if the buyer is purchasing it in the same state
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:15 AM   #3
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I noticed sellers sometimes post they will charge sale's tax if the buyer is purchasing it in the same state
He's in California, my address is in New York. I though maybe New York had taxes of which he wasn't aware - trying to give the benefit of the doubt.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:35 AM   #4
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He’s not claiming it he’s trying to offset ebay fees. If he didn’t say this in the auction then this is not your problem. Tell him had you known it would be more you would have not bud
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If it's not called out in the listing don't pay it. Ebay can handle it for people who do actually collect and pay sales tax, but a manual request for extra money isn't part of it.
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:20 AM   #6
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He's in California, my address is in New York. I though maybe New York had taxes of which he wasn't aware - trying to give the benefit of the doubt.
If the charge sales tax, ill be apart of the checkout for the item. Sales tax can only be charged within state or province. So a person in CA would have to pay sales tax on an item for sale in CA.

If your address is NY, he should not be charging you CA sales tax.
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:13 PM   #7
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would not pay. also think seller's trying to offset ebay fees.
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:52 PM   #8
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Definitely don't pay it. As others have said, he's not being charged any sales tax, he's just trying to get more money out of you.
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Old 01-02-2018, 02:10 PM   #9
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If it's not stated in the listing tell him to pound sand.
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:15 PM   #10
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I appreciate the advice, I've told the seller I'm not willing to pay the sales tax. I'll let you know the response.
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I would not pay it either, as other stated it should be mentioned and taken at checkout
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$35 on a $400 sale actually would be what it comes out to for sales tax in New York, but that still seems odd to me.

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Old 01-03-2018, 02:00 AM   #13
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If the charge sales tax, ill be apart of the checkout for the item. Sales tax can only be charged within state or province. So a person in CA would have to pay sales tax on an item for sale in CA.

If your address is NY, he should not be charging you CA sales tax.
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Old 01-03-2018, 02:41 AM   #14
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As others have said, he can't charge you a sales tax if you're not in the same state. Please share the ID of the seller, especially if he takes a hard line on this issue. That's a bush league move and he deserves to be outed for it.
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Old 01-03-2018, 05:47 AM   #15
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As others have said, he can't charge you a sales tax if you're not in the same state. Please share the ID of the seller, especially if he takes a hard line on this issue. That's a bush league move and he deserves to be outed for it.
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Don't pay it. Sounds like he is trying to offset some Ebay fees on the sale
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Old 01-05-2018, 05:55 AM   #17
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Don't pay it. Sounds like he is trying to offset some Ebay fees on the sale
This right here
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Don't pay it. Sounds like he is trying to offset some Ebay fees on the sale
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This right here
This would be my best guess as well.
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:20 PM   #19
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I took the advice received here and informed the seller that I wouldn't pay the sales tax. He agreed that it should be his responsibility, so now I'm just waiting for him to ship...a tracking number was uploaded a couple of days ago, I'm hoping he drops the package off today.

Thanks as always for the help.
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Another update - still no updated tracking, but the buyer claims that it was mailed early in the week and may be delayed due to weather.

Seems odd that there wouldn't be a single update in several days, but I'm hoping it works out.
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Sounds a bit suspect that no tracking has been updated, but hope you get the card
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:04 PM   #22
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Agree with the sentiment overall as well. As far as I know sales tax is only be charged for same state transactions and must be qualified for.

It would come directly attached to your invoice and labeled as such. Anything added after the fact is very fishy.
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I'm in Illinois, where my business is located. But I also do business in Indiana & Wisconsin. So I have to collect taxes in those states.

Seller might be in Cali, but could own some sort of business holdings in NY state, that forces him to collect tax.

I know we moved on from this, but just wanted to make a statement should anyone have any questions.

I hate having to ship things TO California, as a business. I do not hold any licensees there, but the state forces me to register with the California State Board of Equalization. I then have to collect state tax for the person I'm selling to and mail that over to the BOE.

As a rule of thumb ANYONE that charges you tax for ANY reason needs to do so at the point of sale AND issue you a receipt proving as such. And they MUST be able to turn over their federal tax ID or show you their business license.
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I'm in Illinois, where my business is located. But I also do business in Indiana & Wisconsin. So I have to collect taxes in those states.

Seller might be in Cali, but could own some sort of business holdings in NY state, that forces him to collect tax.

I know we moved on from this, but just wanted to make a statement should anyone have any questions.

I hate having to ship things TO California, as a business. I do not hold any licensees there, but the state forces me to register with the California State Board of Equalization. I then have to collect state tax for the person I'm selling to and mail that over to the BOE.

As a rule of thumb ANYONE that charges you tax for ANY reason needs to do so at the point of sale AND issue you a receipt proving as such. And they MUST be able to turn over their federal tax ID or show you their business license.
Good information to have.
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I see you've gotten some good advice already, but I'll just add a bit to what grid said above. I've never done official business with cards, but I've owned a couple of bars and restaurants. To collect taxes you'd need not just the federal id (EIN) but a state tax ID as well. If the seller can't provide those, he has no business collecting said tax, as he is certainly not turning it over to the state-- to whom it actually belongs.

Businesses small and large are essentially escrow for sales tax revenue. If the business does not release those funds--monthly or quarterly, depending on sales volume-- there are serious consequences. I don't know what would happen if they were being collected fraudulently, but I cannot imagine the state would be amused.

Edit to add: I can't say for sure that the seller is doing anything nefarious. As grid stated though, the fact that it wasn't presented at POS would raise my hackles a bit.

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