Ginter Code- 2012 edition - Page 30

evilside · 07-24-2012, 07:20 PM

Is this site operated by the organizers of the code or a person trying to crack the code?

The Willow Cove Water Cooler

7290morint · 07-24-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by evilside

Is this site operated by the organizers of the code or a person trying to crack the code?

The Willow Cove Water Cooler

by topps (the organizers of the code). if you follow on twitter (the reporter) he says he runs it.

steveintampa1 · 07-24-2012, 10:51 PM

looking for someone to work on this ginter code thing preferably using the phone,,pm me if interested,,

Armystrong2012 · 07-25-2012, 11:56 AM

This is my first ever post, I hope everyone is having a good time with this year's code. I have noticed a few things I would like to mention.

First: Everyone keeps saying ransom note, but hasn't it been consistently referered to in the case file and through the paper as a ransom "style" note? This means that it isn't necessarily a ransom note, but just a note done in the same style as a typical ransom note.

Secondly: I noticed on the code card that the codemaster is holding a newspaper. Now, maybe this has been mentioned already, I do not know, but it seems to me certain parts and lettering on the paper he is holding is darker and bolder than the rest of the paper? Plus the "be the first to crack the code" or whatever on the back seems to be cut from other papers or documents (this part we already know). But would it be possible that the darker, highlighted letters on the pieces of cut out paper mean something?

Thirdly: Something has been driving me crazy. Not that it matters now, but how did people who wanted to attend the town meeting do so? It was bugging the heck out of me that I couldn't figure it out.

Lastly, if anyone would like to join forces, let me know!

calculusdork · 07-25-2012, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Armystrong2012

This is my first ever post, I hope everyone is having a good time with this year's code. I have noticed a few things I would like to mention.

First: Everyone keeps saying ransom note, but hasn't it been consistently referered to in the case file and through the paper as a ransom "style" note? This means that it isn't necessarily a ransom note, but just a note done in the same style as a typical ransom note.

Secondly: I noticed on the code card that the codemaster is holding a newspaper. Now, maybe this has been mentioned already, I do not know, but it seems to me certain parts and lettering on the paper he is holding is darker and bolder than the rest of the paper? Plus the "be the first to crack the code" or whatever on the back seems to be cut from other papers or documents (this part we already know). But would it be possible that the darker, highlighted letters on the pieces of cut out paper mean something?

Thirdly: Something has been driving me crazy. Not that it matters now, but how did people who wanted to attend the town meeting do so? It was bugging the heck out of me that I couldn't figure it out.

Lastly, if anyone would like to join forces, let me know!

Welcome to the crazy farm!

(1) Agreed.
(2) There hasn't been much discussion on this, but that doesn't mean that someone hasn't found some connection there.
(3) Not sure what you're asking. People in Willow Cove, or us code breakers?

CrazyPaul · 07-25-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Armystrong2012

Thirdly: Something has been driving me crazy. Not that it matters now, but how did people who wanted to attend the town meeting do so? It was bugging the heck out of me that I couldn't figure it out.

There was no way to attend the meeting or ask questions. It was all Live Tweeted by Maxx.

Tommy12oz · 07-25-2012, 01:17 PM

Is the cell phone service down in Willow Cove so no one is tweeting?

Anyone else frustrated with the lack of tweets/communication since the murder? I know they took off a few days after the shooting in CO, but its been pretty much nothing since.

CrazyPaul · 07-25-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy12oz

Is the cell phone service down in Willow Cove so no one is tweeting?

Anyone else frustrated with the lack of tweets/communication since the murder? I know they took off a few days after the shooting in CO, but its been pretty much nothing since.

I have a feeling it will be slow until Saturday.

Armystrong2012 · 07-25-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPaul

There was no way to attend the meeting or ask questions. It was all Live Tweeted by Maxx.

Oh I get it now. I thought he was just giving highlights. I seen some posts of people saying they actually were able to view text from within the meeting or something similar to that effect. Guess I shouldn't believe everything I read lol.

CharlieHustle · 07-25-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy12oz

Is the cell phone service down in Willow Cove so no one is tweeting?

Anyone else frustrated with the lack of tweets/communication since the murder? I know they took off a few days after the shooting in CO, but its been pretty much nothing since.

Remember last year? It took the Code Master a whole month to finish his twitter poem, but all of the important information was front loaded into the first couple of weeks. It wasn't until the last line of the poem that you could have solved it, which was about mid-August. After that, it was just a lot of nudging in the right direction.
I'm thinking that they don't want the code to drag on as long as it did last year, but they also don't want it to be solved in a week, like the first couple of years.
I would expect the entirety of the info to be released after the next Town Hall meeting, but I also expect that 95% of the info is already out there now.

jmel07 · 07-25-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Armystrong2012

First: Everyone keeps saying ransom note, but hasn't it been consistently referered to in the case file and through the paper as a ransom "style" note? This means that it isn't necessarily a ransom note, but just a note done in the same style as a typical ransom note.

If by everyone, you mean me

That was me. I was just referring to it as it was worded on the cards, but if you think about it . . . .

It could have just been a threat against Lennie, like "sell your property to me, or I'll kill you" but what good is that if you are just going to kill him anyway.

And Lennie must have had it ahead of time, unless the killer just laid it on the floor to get his attention in the bowling alley and when he bent over to get it, wacked him over the head. But that doesn't seem overly plausible (possible though).

What makes more sense is that someone was extorting him, since there have been references made to "secrets" in Lennie's life. So, while you can't say for sure it was an actual ransom note, it's probably a 50/50 shot or better, but still just pure speculation on my part.

calculusdork · 07-26-2012, 09:13 AM

So ... anybody given up yet?

Tommy12oz · 07-26-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by calculusdork

So ... anybody given up yet?

No, basically, the Co. shooting equaled 1 week delay in the twitter activity. I am sure if the shooting never happened the wake/funeral would have all occured last weekend. They just pushed all the action one week back.

We should get some good info to really start working this weekend.

I personally have a lot of note and ideas, just waiting for a catylst that will help bring any of it together.

What I do not have yet, is a 100% found the next step.. IE: Dicovered a potential cipher or foud the link to what cards in the set will be used in the code and I doubt many if any at all have gotten there yet. It just all speculation till will get a little more info.

its just gonna take TIME!

calculusdork · 07-26-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy12oz

No, basically, the Co. shooting equaled 1 week delay in the twitter activity. I am sure if the shooting never happened the wake/funeral would have all occured last weekend. They just pushed all the action one week back.

Agreed 100%. It's likely (IMO) that all the Twitter activity was scripted and pre-programmed, and the Aurora shootings caused them to have to rearrange and reprogram some things to maintain the same overall timeline w/r/t future events (e.g. 7/30 town meeting). Could be part of the reason for the delays as well.

SWLVGUY · 07-26-2012, 12:03 PM

With twitter being down this am...could throw a kink in all of this?

CrazyPaul · 07-26-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SWLVGUY

With twitter being down this am...could throw a kink in all of this?

I was thinking the same thing. Im hoping that no major activity was planned until the funeral. Im not sure my sanity can handle many more delays.

lauriontj · 07-26-2012, 12:10 PM

Hmm....something "fishy" is going on here...

calculusdork · 07-26-2012, 12:55 PM

I know there may be issues with the Twitter stuff, but just throwing this out there ... shouldn't there be a blog post about Lennie's visitations and funeral? Kinda surprised about the lack of activity there.

poppudaimadochi · 07-26-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lauriontj

Hmm....something "fishy" is going on here...

the "no tweets" thing?

jmel07 · 07-26-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy12oz

What I do not have yet, is a 100% found the next step.. IE: Dicovered a potential cipher or foud the link to what cards in the set will be used in the code and I doubt many if any at all have gotten there yet. It just all speculation till will get a little more info.

its just gonna take TIME!

More formally, you/we are looking for the trail-head or rabbit hole.

Prior rabbit holes:
2008 - first/last words matching
2009 - boxed "L"s
2010 - hail-mary email to topps with auto-reply ciphertext (horrible, just horrible)
2011 - yek.topps.com websites with backwards words from backs of cards

For 2012, we still don't really know what this is or will be. Just because they used subset cards last year doesn't mean they will this year. They also used one subset in 2008, but it was very explicit. They've went to great lengths to make the code cracking last longer and have obfuscated it from plain view.

And in hiding it from plain view, you have to hint at where it is.

What doesn't make sense to me thus far is what's with all the daytime soap opera drama? That's not a code yet, that's just hokey plot lines.

And we still have no idea why www.murderinwillowcove.com exists.

CrazyPaul · 07-26-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jmel07

And we still have no idea why www.murderinwillowcove.com exists.

We dont?

jmel07 · 07-26-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by calculusdork

So ... anybody given up yet?

Last year there were breaks of anywhere from 5 to 9 to 15 days even early on in the "code" -- during the poem.

Although, it feels different this year since this whole town is supposedly crazy tweeters.

The thing I keep remembering is it wasn't until 99 days after the first tweet last year that I think anyone could have even imagined how to find the 30 website clues. Sure, we all knew we were looking for a domain, but no one had any idea what that meant, and I think I can confidently state that no one knew we were looking for sub-domains off the topps.com site until the 10/22/11 tweet:

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Originally Posted by theGinterCode

Our domain is oft visited when collectors explore, you'll find the keys all fit snugly right at the fore #thegintercode

And he waited three more months before giving the super-obvious hint, which to me says no one had found a single domain prior to 1/30/12:

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Originally Posted by theGinterCode

Young Ethier Konerko Desmond Ordonez Thome Teixeira Oswalt Papelbon Peavy Sandoval Danks Ortiz Tabata Castro Owings McGee

They clearly had no problem with dragging this thing out 3-6 months based on the pace of the hints last year, so I wouldn't hold out much hope of getting everything you need in July, or August or September. Although I hope they did learn that people burn out after 3 to 6 or 9 months of banging their heads. We're all super excited and just want something to "work on". 6 months to find the rabbit hole is pretty unreasonable, but I wouldn't be surprised if it took at least 2 months.

jmel07 · 07-26-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPaul

We dont?

If you know where it came from, or what to do with it, I applaud you. It's reason for being has eluded me thus far.

CrazyPaul · 07-26-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jmel07

If you know where it came from, or what to do with it, I applaud you. It's reason for being has eluded me thus far.

I know exactly what to do with it. Waste hours upon hours of my life trying to determine if its real or not.

calculusdork · 07-26-2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPaul

I know exactly what to do with it. Waste hours upon hours of my life trying to determine if its real or not.

This made me chuckle and brought a sense of relief.

07-25-2012, 11:56 AM	#729
Armystrong2012 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Isanti, MN Posts: 7	First Time Posting This is my first ever post, I hope everyone is having a good time with this year's code. I have noticed a few things I would like to mention. First: Everyone keeps saying ransom note, but hasn't it been consistently referered to in the case file and through the paper as a ransom "style" note? This means that it isn't necessarily a ransom note, but just a note done in the same style as a typical ransom note. Secondly: I noticed on the code card that the codemaster is holding a newspaper. Now, maybe this has been mentioned already, I do not know, but it seems to me certain parts and lettering on the paper he is holding is darker and bolder than the rest of the paper? Plus the "be the first to crack the code" or whatever on the back seems to be cut from other papers or documents (this part we already know). But would it be possible that the darker, highlighted letters on the pieces of cut out paper mean something? Thirdly: Something has been driving me crazy. Not that it matters now, but how did people who wanted to attend the town meeting do so? It was bugging the heck out of me that I couldn't figure it out. Lastly, if anyone would like to join forces, let me know!

07-25-2012, 01:17 PM	#732
Tommy12oz Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 436	Is the cell phone service down in Willow Cove so no one is tweeting? Anyone else frustrated with the lack of tweets/communication since the murder? I know they took off a few days after the shooting in CO, but its been pretty much nothing since. __________________ Finder's Fee for these cards if I obtain them(NO EBAY or COMC). 2010 Neftali Feliz Ginter Relic

07-26-2012, 12:10 PM	#742
lauriontj Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: PA Posts: 6,198	Hmm....something "fishy" is going on here... __________________ Insta: tjssportscards24 PC: Griffey/Soto and like the Washington Nationals! My dad taught me to hate the Yankees. Now that I’m an adult, I realize I was raised correctly.

07-24-2012, 07:20 PM	#726
evilside Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: The Midwest Posts: 46 evilside	Is this site operated by the organizers of the code or a person trying to crack the code? The Willow Cove Water Cooler

07-24-2012, 10:51 PM	#728
steveintampa1 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 64 florida_rays	looking for someone to work on this ginter code thing preferably using the phone,,pm me if interested,,

07-26-2012, 09:13 AM	#737
calculusdork Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Nowheresville Posts: 26,683 calculusdork calculusdork	So ... anybody given up yet?

07-26-2012, 12:03 PM	#740
SWLVGUY Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 21	With twitter being down this am...could throw a kink in all of this?

07-26-2012, 12:55 PM	#743
calculusdork Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Nowheresville Posts: 26,683 calculusdork calculusdork	I know there may be issues with the Twitter stuff, but just throwing this out there ... shouldn't there be a blog post about Lennie's visitations and funeral? Kinda surprised about the lack of activity there.