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Old 02-19-2018, 09:51 PM   #26
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Upper Deck and Topps will always be missed.

panini RUINED basketball cards. I knew this was going to happen once the exclusive that should have never happened was announced all those years ago.

How sick would it be to go into a card shop and be buying packs of SP Authentic or Topps Chrome ???? Panini is the most epic fail of all time. GTHP
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:00 PM   #27
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These may be the best non-RPA rookie autos. I wonder how rare they'll be...
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:02 PM   #28
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Pretty slick.
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:07 PM   #29
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I wonder if Panini would now start making chrome parallels of everything.

Chrome Refractor Flawless, Chrome Refractor Immaculate, Chrome Kaboom, Chrome Refractor From Downtown. Some of these could be good ideas. Haha
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:39 PM   #30
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U-G-L-Y.....No action photography and who needs a section-row-seat number on the card? So much for a real RC Card with in game photography. This late in the season they should have more in game photos to choose from and a better format for the card rather than wasted space with numbers that donít relate to anything.

This is how I feel too but I guess the whole ticket look goes over well with a lot of people. Maybe Select with have some nice action shots. Given previous releases its doubtful but one can hope!
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Old 02-19-2018, 11:05 PM   #31
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I think these look awesome. Can't wait to open some boxes on Wednesday
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Old 02-19-2018, 11:14 PM   #32
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I'm surprised it's taken this long for Panini to bring back Contenders in basketball because the name itself sells. I haven't followed 12-13 pricing as much lately but when AD stuff went up a few years back his Contenders auto would outsell his Select at $300 and it was a sticker auto.
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Old 02-19-2018, 11:19 PM   #33
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Nothing to complain about here, that card is great.
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Old 02-19-2018, 11:22 PM   #34
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i am familiar, but have a difficult time believing new folks are going to "get it"

thats neither here, nor there though. im just shocked they didnt take the "make more money" route and make Optic Contenders as a product
03-04 bowman had paper (regular) bowman autos and bowman chrome autos, itís was pretty cool and a very popular set. I am not a big baseball guy but donít they do the same?
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Old 02-19-2018, 11:49 PM   #35
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03-04 bowman had paper (regular) bowman autos and bowman chrome autos, itís was pretty cool and a very popular set. I am not a big baseball guy but donít they do the same?
Yes, baseball does that, but they do these three releases

Bowman (with chrome)- Prospect Chrome Autos (are inserts, as minor leaguers are not allow to have MLB cards until they are on the major league roster)

Bowman Chrome - RC Bowman Chrome Autos (are base cards, so they are RCs)

Bowman Draft (with Chrome) - Prospect Chrome Autos with a focus on the draft picks (are inserts, as minor leaguers are not allow to have MLB cards until they are on the major league roster)
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Old 02-20-2018, 12:06 AM   #36
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The good? The fact it's on card and they used blue pen.

The bad? I agree, especially this late in the season: It's annoying (sacrilege; blasphemous) it's a shoot photo, especially considering the sticker autos of rookies from the preview, of this product, are action shots. (see: Kuzma Up-&-Coming auto)

Released earlier in season? Sure, fine. Feb. 21st? GTFOH.

Also of note: John Collins' auto is much poorer than it was at the beginning of the signing season.
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Old 02-20-2018, 12:11 AM   #37
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doesnt really do much for me tbh
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Old 02-20-2018, 11:51 AM   #38
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LOVE the design and prizm finish on these Premium versions! Can't wait to see the general odds per case!
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Old 02-20-2018, 02:23 PM   #39
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That design does nothing for me either. Shrug.
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I'd be all in for Status Optic. The posed/non action shots in Contenders are not very exciting.
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Old 02-20-2018, 03:24 PM   #41
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So many guys are redemptions. So far On Card of these guys are all redmeptions:

Donavan Mitchell
OG Anunoby
Dillon Brooks
Josh Jackson
Josh Hart
Kyle Kuzma
Jordan Bell
Zach Collins
Tony Bradley
Sindarius Thornwell
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Old 02-20-2018, 04:31 PM   #42
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Upper Deck and Topps will always be missed.

panini RUINED basketball cards. I knew this was going to happen once the exclusive that should have never happened was announced all those years ago.

How sick would it be to go into a card shop and be buying packs of SP Authentic or Topps Chrome ???? Panini is the most epic fail of all time. GTHP
Chrome sure, SP Authentic started top become garbage toward the end. I think people forget how bad some Topps and UD stuff was. We pretty much only revere Chrome, Finest and Exq.

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Old 02-20-2018, 04:35 PM   #43
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No need to make optic contenders when you can insert chrome optic variations in contenders.

Again they are NOT making a stand alone product this year...
I think his point is that Panini likes to test new sets by using preview cards.

They got a positive reaction to the Optic previews last year, and ended up making Optic as a late season addition to the schedule. Last year they put those Ascension inserts into a late release and were so pleased with themselves they made a standalone product into one of the first new season releases.

I don't think he's suggesting it will be a standalone this year, but your assertion there is no reason to make the product when it is easy enough to insert it as a insert or parallel is disproven by recent actions. If they are indeed popular I would 100% expect it to be a standalone next year.
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the greatest modern NFL card of all time is in this format
That's wonderful, but football and basketball are two different markets with completely different buyer preferences and trends.
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So many guys are redemptions. So far On Card of these guys are all redmeptions:

Donavan Mitchell
OG Anunoby
Dillon Brooks
Josh Jackson
Josh Hart
Kyle Kuzma


but live sticker autos of course. sucks
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:13 PM   #47
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That's not the Optic though I think
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Premium (chrome) say prizm on the back
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That's not the Optic though I think
Correct. The Optic Versions are listed as "Premium Edition" on the checklist and say prizm on the back.

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Old 02-20-2018, 06:32 PM   #50
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That's wonderful, but football and basketball are two different markets with completely different buyer preferences and trends.


Agreed
You donít see many products that do well in both sports. Usually one or the other but most often neither LOL


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