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Old 04-24-2018, 02:00 PM   #1
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Default Tobacco cards. Real or fake?

Apologies for the pics. I have a customer coming in soon and these are the pics I was shown...any help on authenticity would be great. Also, who is on the far right? Tobacco cards are not my specialty as they rarely come in off the street... thanks in advance!

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Old 04-24-2018, 02:02 PM   #2
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Apologies for the pics. I have a customer coming in soon and these are the pics I was shown...any help on authenticity would be great. Also, who is on the far right? Tobacco cards are not my specialty as they rarely come in off the street... thanks in advance!

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Old 04-24-2018, 02:05 PM   #3
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They look to clean to me. Font all seems the same (there are differences in this): https://www.sellbaseballcards101.com...ds-part-i-font

I presume you have a loop?

Also worth the read: http://cycleback.com/cardsauthentication.pdf
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Old 04-24-2018, 02:09 PM   #4
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They look to clean to me. Font all seems the same (there are differences in this): https://www.sellbaseballcards101.com...ds-part-i-font

I presume you have a loop?

Also worth the read: http://cycleback.com/cardsauthentication.pdf
I do have a loop yes and will see when it comes in. Thanks for the info!
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Old 04-24-2018, 02:39 PM   #5
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can anyone identify the no named player on the right????
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Old 04-24-2018, 06:31 PM   #6
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http://t206resource.com/Set%20Gallery%20F%20-%20H.html

Frill. And they look real to me. Most are commons that wouldn't really be faked with common backs.
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Old 04-24-2018, 07:33 PM   #7
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Frill. And they look real to me. Most are commons that wouldn't really be faked with common backs.
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Old 04-25-2018, 12:23 PM   #8
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I disagree.

Unless your phone camera is this poor, these all look like reprints.

...and these are most definitely not all "commons" when it comes to players.

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Old 04-25-2018, 02:11 PM   #9
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What would BV be on those cards in that condition?

Yes I did say BV. If someone is knowingly trying to pass off fakes, odds are they are thinking BV of cards & not ebay prices.

Hard to tell from pics. If you know someone with experience with Tobacco cards the feel of the card could help.
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Old 04-25-2018, 05:28 PM   #10
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Waddell Throwing (HOF): PSA 1 SMR of $45
Willis Batting (HOF): PSA 3 SMR of $110
Bender Portrait (HOF): PSA 3 SMR of $120, if not trimmed
Frill: PSA 1 SMR of $16. This might be Good(MC) = 1

They don't throw any red flags to me. The cards are the right size, the font looks brown and correct typeface, the backs are correct to the images, and they're not overbright or the wrong color.
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Old 04-25-2018, 10:43 PM   #11
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Look good, no red flags
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And the verdict was?
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I disagree.

Unless your phone camera is this poor, these all look like reprints.

...and these are most definitely not all "commons" when it comes to players.

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Why do you think they are fakes?
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I disagree.

Unless your phone camera is this poor, these all look like reprints.

...and these are most definitely not all "commons" when it comes to players.

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Why do you think they are fakes?
Obviously, I'm only basing it on the photos...so it's just an opinion.

However, based on the washed out look (notably Waddell) and lack of toning detail that is standard to 206s, these look like reprints to me.

Then the modern glue glob tabs holding the cards in between the glass, it just doesn't seem like a "find," but more of a craft project.

The darker tones also show a dot pattern that doesn't seem to be native to original 206s.

Could everything I'm saying be wrong? Absolutely.
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I ended up just snagging them. Will update with better resolution scans. That glue did not come off well and pulled a smidge of the surface off which really sucks. The Glue is still on the Chief Bender card...again, I will post with some better pictures shorlty. Thanks for the input guys!
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I ended up just snagging them. Will update with better resolution scans. That glue did not come off well and pulled a smidge of the surface off which really sucks. The Glue is still on the Chief Bender card...again, I will post with some better pictures shorlty. Thanks for the input guys!
Nice snag., They all look good to me too.
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I was going to say they look good as well. Obviously a lot easier to tell in person. Nice get as I'm assuming you paid a decent price for them.
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