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I would hate to see you guys argue over something like religion or politics. after all its only trading cards
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These cards in person are beautiful. They will become more appreciated in time, and when that happens, look out. |
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why should we believe you more than someone else? |
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i'm sorry...... but completing a doctoral program and earning a Phd, or MD, or DD or whatever DOES NOT automatically give that person credibility and require that others give respect..
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people are automatically respecting others around here? I must have missed that memo.
guess im still reading from the memo that says you have to earn it. oopsie. |
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Now I'm saying that the Ali trunks from Sportkings are in fact authentic. You don't have to believe me. If you'd rather believe what someone said that you didn't even hear it from, go ahead. In all honesty, we don't even know if anyone ever said that. People didn't have to believe me about ud either. Time will tell all. I'm a patient person. Perhaps if Mr. McWilliam earned the title of "Dr." at some point in his life, ud would have had enough integrity to not cheat it's customers, and this hobby wouldn't be in such a mess. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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even a broken clock has the correct time twice a day.......... |
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what if the people they got it from weren't on the up and up? what if the people THOSE PEOPLE got it from weren't on the up and up? why? because they made people sign a declaration that it was authentic? yah. like that means anything nowadays. you telling us that mistakes can't happen? and ringside is bullet proof? how are you 100% sure??????? |
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Some things just aren't worth sharing in a place like this. There's a "right time" for everything, just like that clock in your above example. ![]() So why are you hating now? Do you think the Ali trunks are fake, or are you just wanting to jump on the bandwagon? |
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What's more likely...they're authentic, or they aren't? If they were from ud, would they be more likely to be authentic or fake? This is not something any of you guys are going to win with me. Their authenticity is guaranteed. Until it's proven otherwise, it will be assumed they are authentic by the vast majority of people in this hobby. Those half-dozen of you that want to throw stones, continue to throw them if you must. You're going to have to throw a lot harder for them to cause any sort of discomfort. |
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According to you a Dentist who has not practiced in 30 years surely deserves our Respect in the hobby because of a dental school diploma and our unquestioning faith that he would never ever ever never cheat us because he was once a Dentist.
Sportkings has a good reputation now, but who knows where the future will take them. I for one will make my own judgements.
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I need not prove my point until someone proves the trunks are fake. Innocent until proven guilty. Remember. You know as well as I do that people are hating just to hate. They don't want to accept there's a more honorable company out there than their beloved upper deck. I know this does not apply to all the haters, but it most definitely applies to some. SK makes the claim that all their stuff is authentic. Therefore the burden of proof is not on them or me. If people doubt some of their stuff is authentic...prove it. Until then, there's not need for me to "put up or shut up". That phrase should be reserved for those with their false claims, and you know that as well as I do. ![]() |
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Under your line of reasoning, if I put out a line of cards with skillfully self-forged Babe Ruth signatures, they would be presumptively authentic until someone could prove that they were fake. But if they were skillfully forged and I did it myself, no one would be able to offer such proof (short of my confessing to the forgery). As for the collateral issue of Dr. Price, he's completely entitled to demand that people use the 'Dr.' honorific because he's earned the credential. That doesn't mean that it's not objectionable. LeBron had every right to put on that Decision special, but self-aggrandizing behavior tends to rub people the wrong way. In all, I actually like SK and appreciate that you've raised my awareness on the product. But regardless of the motivations of the people questioning the authenticity of the Ali memorabilia, the concerns themselves are valid and deserve to be adequately addressed |
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Dr. Price is known in this industry and I'm assuming you are not. If you put out a line of cards with Babe Ruth signatures, they would sell for next to nothing unless you proved they were authentic. Sportkings Ruth cut autos on the other hand sell in the range with other "authentic" Ruth cuts. His word actually carries weight and therefore value. That's why the burden of proof is no longer on his shoulders. It's in the hands of someone that wants to claim deception. Hopefully that person has credibility, because if not, it's just a meaningless opinion against a very well-respected card manufacturer. I hope that makes sense. |
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Just wait to when people start asking where the fur robe from bruce lee enter the dragon came from thats in the new SK. Cause it was questioned on several bruce lee message boards when upper deck originally released the same fur in prominent cuts cause Bruce wear ZERO fur robes in or during the movie. It appears possibly sk cut up a upper deck card (who according to certain fanboys is icky and everything is fake) and made a card. That would be ironic wouldn't it? http://cgi.ebay.com/09-UD-PROMINENT-...#ht_3403wt_911 http://cgi.ebay.com/Bruce-Lee-2010-S...#ht_1100wt_911 |
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i know the red ali trunks are unauthentic because ali's red trunks were made by two companys, everlast and sparta and they didn't contain any block lettering on them like the example below. plus the material on the ringside cards is different from the trunks ali actually wore
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What you don't understand is that "we" can't trust you! You are a nobody and aren't a dentist! ![]()
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We could settle this once and for all though. Authentic Muhammad Ali Memorabilia, Steve Jackson Authentications
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Ali did wear a red robe during the super fight.
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