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07-13-2017, 08:10 PM | #176 |
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I don't think there is a such thing as a 'known homerun" in today's marketplace. Look at Ultra spider-Man or GOTG2. Both of those should have been hits, neither were.
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07-13-2017, 08:20 PM | #177 | |
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The Marvel Premier brand is the blue chip stock of the nonsports card world. 2 releases (so far) and 2 home runs. Most surefire hit of any set out there. Fleer Spidey suffered from poor card design. The coin cards should have popped (like the CAP coin cards) Instead we got a bleached out mess devoid of color and too much of a gap between the coin and card... |
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07-13-2017, 08:25 PM | #178 | |
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Well Spider-Man did well for me on ebay selling sets and all the hits, but most definitely tailed off after about 45 days. My own opinion neither sustained any type of momentum was Spider-Man was very heavily printed, like 16-18k cases and just to much out there, and GOTG2 , Upper Deck really missed the mark having no chris pratt and then misleading people on the hits per box, where some cases had 3 to 4 boxes wouldn't even have like 20 in value. Again, this is only my opinion, but premier is about close to a homerun,( maybe a solid double?) because you know the product is limited. But ill need to see the over all quality of the sketches if this product will have any long staying power like 2012 or be a 2014 that now can be had at 200 a box. And interested in what epack will do to physical release . Last edited by Sharard; 07-13-2017 at 08:27 PM. |
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07-13-2017, 09:19 PM | #179 |
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Everything is contingent on something.
GOTG2 didn't deliver on the autograph list, but you had no way of knowing that when pre-ordering a month in advance. MP is contingent on sketch quality. There are no guarantees there. And the sophomore release was hardly a homerun by comparison to the first. Sketch quality was down and the base cards didnt have even close to the same resale value. If this drops an equivalent amount, it will be a hit for some breakers but a miss for others. As Shared said, it helps that it's limited. But the fact that it's limited is sort of an illusion too. Physical is limited. The actual case count should still be a little higher than 2012 and I'm skeptical that the art will deliver the same overall quality as 2012. Sure the previews were nice... but those are cherry picked cards from the most desirable artists in the set. The previews are equally good for the best sets and the worst. 2012 = 50 base x199 / 2 per pack = 4975 packs 2014 = 60 base x199, x25, x1 / 2 per pack = 6750 packs 2017 = 55 base x125, x50, x10, x5 / 2 per pack = 5225 packs Those are my thoughts. I'm in for the group break but wouldn't dream of breaking this product by the case for resale. |
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Not saying it totally bombed but it wasn't on par with MP12 and it took months before people started breaking the stuff in large quantitites. Quote:
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07-14-2017, 01:49 PM | #182 |
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07-14-2017, 02:09 PM | #183 |
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I think its a go. Homecoming was pushed back and the people I ordered from have asked for payment. I really cant recall once ive been asked to pay, the product wasn't released as planned But guess always a first time.
I know Ill will lose lots of money opening this, but I missed 2012 and only opened a few 2014. The fun I had with JJMP was a blast Some personal stuff has happened in real life that lets me know that life can change any minute. I'm going to have fun and be broke heh. |
07-14-2017, 02:19 PM | #184 | |
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I'm with ya! LETS GO BROKE TOGETHERRRRRrrrrrrrrr Heeyah! |
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07-15-2017, 08:21 AM | #185 |
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sketch question What is used to ship and protect the panel sketch cards that you don't want to bend.. These are thicker, well 2014 ones were.. Would appreciate any advice on how you would ship these rather stick in between card board naked. Iron man for example from 2014
My case count comes out to 825 unless I'm missing something and I know I am. If the shadow box is 2 per case and non numbered busts are 3 per case, that leaves 1 hit that either is going to be a hellfire sketch or a gold bust ltfx per 6 box case. Math seems to say Hellfire is 15 x 30= 450 and gold LTFX busts is 25 x 15=375, 450 +375= 825. Yes I was bored this morning. Last edited by Sharard; 07-24-2017 at 10:59 PM. |
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07-15-2017, 09:26 PM | #189 | |
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Have the past e pack releases including Joe Jusko about the same as the physical releases when they were newly released? Or does the 289 price seem higher than the UD suggested retail price should be? I have been watching past you tubes of 2012 and 2014. Both seemed to have varying quality from outstanding to under whelming though it seemed to be more common in 2014 stuff. And it seemed 2012 had quite a few boxes with extra sketch or cards. I'm assuming most of the success or failure will come down to the over all quality of sketches for this release. though the inserts seems quite nice. And why no preview of this from upper deck to show off what these loo like before release? ----to Upperdeck Matt Last edited by Sharard; 07-15-2017 at 09:30 PM. |
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07-15-2017, 09:40 PM | #191 | |
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07-15-2017, 09:49 PM | #192 |
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The question will be if they sell it by the box (at $250-300), or if they do single card "packs" (at $50-60). If they do single card packs, where 2 out of 5 packs will be a single base card, will people open them at $50?
I know a lot of people assume this will be very popular on epack, since MM was. However, it's a lot different being able to open a $15 pack with the chance to hit a big hit versus paying $50 or $250. |
07-15-2017, 10:27 PM | #193 |
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All good questions....that being said, it's safe to say this will be the Highest EPACK release to date?
And I was under the impression it would be a FULL pack/EPACK release. Not a single card at a time...Matt can u confirm??? Also a price would nice... |
07-15-2017, 11:06 PM | #194 |
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There has been no indication it will be single card packs on epack, that is a guess on my part based on the cost of the boxes. I just have a hard time believing the cheapest option to buy any will be $250-300.
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07-15-2017, 11:08 PM | #195 |
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Ultimate hockey is $250 per pack on ePack, so there is precedent
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07-15-2017, 11:47 PM | #196 |
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07-16-2017, 06:55 AM | #197 |
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I'm guessing in the 250 area as I was able to get my 4 cases at 259, 1555 a case. That was the best early price I could get. No idea the mark up of these were. Price seemed high but at the time , I simply couldn't find a better price with buyers that had clout with upper deck. These are paid for and confirmed allotted to me.
Really will be interesting to see the e pack effect early on as there wasn't this around with last premier ...I'll admit I'm hoping that singles sells decent enough I can keep what I want and not lose a lot. I not expecting a profit by no means but can make the loss less painful. I do admit, it'll be sad not to see as many breaks on line as the past . Last edited by Sharard; 07-16-2017 at 06:58 AM. |
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07-16-2017, 08:31 AM | #199 |
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[QUOTE=Spider-Fan;12522594[B]]From what I recall, almost all of our 2014 group break cases had a few extra cards also
i was going to say (you beat me to it) I opened 8 cases of 2014, ALL of them (when opening by the case) one or two boxes in each case DID have a extra Single sketch Hit, so speaking for last go around, most cases included a extra sketch hit |
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