Jerry Jones recent anthem comments - Page 3

Siberian13 · 10-10-2017, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

The players would still get paid. Only the league can suspend without pay.

Jones can sit or "suspend" players all he wants, he still has to pay them.

When the young guys like Zeke and Dak are on their rookie contracts, you would think they are looking for their next payday. So again, money is important to them.

GeechQuest · 10-10-2017, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

When the young guys like Zeke and Dak are on their rookie contracts, you would think they are looking for their next payday. So again, money is important to them.

If Jerry were to bench/suspend them (he wouldn't and we all know that, anyone posturing like he would is objectively wrong):

A) They will still get paid
B) They will still get hefty 2nd contracts

Other teams aren't going to balk at Dak and Zeke over a perceived kneeling issue.

I agree if a lesser player tried to take a stand they would be affecting their future earnings. Good players? Not a chance.

Siberian13 · 10-10-2017, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

If Jerry were to bench/suspend them (he wouldn't and we all know that, anyone posturing like he would is objectively wrong):

A) They will still get paid
B) They will still get hefty 2nd contracts

Other teams aren't going to balk at Dak and Zeke over a perceived kneeling issue.

I agree if a lesser player tried to take a stand they would be affecting their future earnings. Good players? Not a chance.

I say test the man then. See what happens Zeke after JJ stood by your side for your issues

oldgoldy97 · 10-10-2017, 03:45 PM

America: stand for the anthem, grab a boob afterwards.

Siberian13 · 10-10-2017, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

America: stand for the anthem, grab a boob afterwards.

And then get on the MN party boat!

oldgoldy97 · 10-10-2017, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

And then get on the MN party boat!

And tell Access Hollywood about it the next day.

Siberian13 · 10-10-2017, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

And tell Access Hollywood about it the next day.

Maybe do some lines off the desk and send video to a prostitute too

oldgoldy97 · 10-10-2017, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Maybe do some lines off the desk and send video to a prostitute too

But he loved her. Or parts of her.

jdandns · 10-10-2017, 04:52 PM

I'm not sure why they don't just film the fellas kneeling from the waist up only, like they way they did Elvis for 1950's television. That way, the players who want to can kneel and those who don't like that won't know they aren't standing.

bmac56 · 10-11-2017, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Grid

Correct. "Should" does not mean "Must" stand.

The only "Must" is that the anthem must be played before the game.

I like that Jerry is taking a stand. I hate that this is such a distraction. But for everyone saying that it a "rule" to stand, it isn't.

With that said here is a rule:

Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1 (d) of the NFL rulebook, which states that “players are prohibited from engaging in any celebrations or demonstrations while on the ground”

This is the same NFL that fined Cameron Heyward for wearing eye black honoring his father, former NFL fullback Craig "Ironhead" Heyward after he died from Cancer.

Its the same the league that fined cornerback William Gay for wearing purple cleats to show support for domestic violence awareness.

The League now says its OK to demonstrate in this manner, during the anthem, but not OK to show support for cancer or domestic violence due to "Uniform" rules?

Crazy stuff!

If I understand it correctly, there are two sets of rules - one for in-game and one for non-game/game-day conduct. It seems to me that the NFL has been more concerned with what happens in-game, as that is what most people tune in for, so the rules are more strict.

A player could wear purple cleats to show support for whatever cause anytime before the game and be fine so long as he's not wearing them in game.

Frankly, I'm surprised that the rules for non-game/game-day conduct aren't more strict given the non-stop coverage of the NFL during the season. There must be a reason but I don't know what it is.

RogerGodahell · 10-11-2017, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chilly55

Talking about rules in general. If there are no rules, whether it's in football, a business, or at home, chaos can ensue. Imagine if you let your kids do what they want from day one? Rules are needed. I agree, no chaos with the players kneeling, but rules are rules. Enforcing them is paramount to any successful home or business.

People do, it’s called millennials, cupcake generation.

bmac56 · 10-11-2017, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

People do, it’s called millennials, cupcake generation.

There are cupcakes in every generation. It's not just millennials.

chilly55 · 10-11-2017, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bmac56

There are cupcakes in every generation. It's not just millennials.

True, but the millennials seem to have quite a few more cupcakes than the previous generations.

donaldz · 10-11-2017, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bmac56

There are cupcakes in every generation. It's not just millennials.

It's okay, the old gentleman seems to be confusing a delicious dessert food with college degrees.

RogerGodahell · 10-11-2017, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chilly55

True, but the millennials seem to have quite a few more cupcakes than the previous generations.

Glad we can agree on that

JustinVerlander07 · 10-11-2017, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chilly55

True, but the millennials seem to have quite a few more cupcakes than the previous generations.

The get off my lawn generation, you seem to fall into it.

oldgoldy97 · 10-12-2017, 07:22 AM

Someone in this thread has never gone 56 in a 55 zone. Or is that one of those rules we just ignore?

Siberian13 · 10-12-2017, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Someone in this thread has never gone 56 in a 55 zone. Or is that one of those rules we just ignore?

If you go 56 in a 55 I’m bump drafting you

rman112 · 10-12-2017, 09:37 PM

Goodell now says that they need to "move past" the anthem controversey. LOLOL.

preakness · 10-14-2017, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

If Jerry were to bench/suspend them (he wouldn't and we all know that, anyone posturing like he would is objectively wrong):

A) They will still get paid
B) They will still get hefty 2nd contracts

Other teams aren't going to balk at Dak and Zeke over a perceived kneeling issue.

I agree if a lesser player tried to take a stand they would be affecting their future earnings. Good players? Not a chance.

hence, Colin K was not a great player

rman112 · 10-14-2017, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by preakness

hence, Colin K was not a great player

Bicep kissing Kaepernick was good.

Frailer, vegan, hateful, p-whipped idiot Kaepernick.. not so much.

10-10-2017, 04:52 PM	#59
jdandns Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 20,425	I'm not sure why they don't just film the fellas kneeling from the waist up only, like they way they did Elvis for 1950's television. That way, the players who want to can kneel and those who don't like that won't know they aren't standing. __________________ Heinz, it's America's favorite ketchup.

10-10-2017, 03:45 PM	#54
oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The parade zone Posts: 45,264 Myfakeebayid	America: stand for the anthem, grab a boob afterwards.

10-12-2017, 07:22 AM	#67
oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The parade zone Posts: 45,264 Myfakeebayid	Someone in this thread has never gone 56 in a 55 zone. Or is that one of those rules we just ignore?

10-12-2017, 09:37 PM	#69
rman112 Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Freedom is Free Again Posts: 40,953	Goodell now says that they need to "move past" the anthem controversey. LOLOL.