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Old 06-08-2016, 11:21 PM   #1
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Default Real or fake: 1997-98 Kobe Skybox Rubies

Since joining the forum, you guys have me spooked on certain ungraded parallels. This Kobe just popped up for auction: 1997 98 Skybox Star Ruby Rubies Kobe Bryant Parallel RARE Short Print 25 50 | eBay





What's the verdict?
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Old 06-08-2016, 11:27 PM   #2
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Well....I can tell ya there is something just NOT right with that same sellers Kobe Ultra RC Platinum Medallion. It looks like the cards been made up completely......look at the front font. It looks like someone lifted the original photos....and used a computer to write up the fonts I the front and reverse....all while mirroring the platinum foil.

Seeing that card, I'd stay the hell away from the Ruby.
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Old 06-08-2016, 11:31 PM   #3
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I would stay far away.

The fakes that I have seen have had horrible chipping on the back edges.

I'm not sure if this was from the way they cut them or the cardboard it was printed on.

This one has some definite chipping on the right side.
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Old 06-09-2016, 12:44 AM   #4
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Counterfeit 100%. And for others members too this ebay seller is the original source for all the fakes you have seen for the past 2 years now.
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Old 06-09-2016, 12:48 AM   #5
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FYI op, this is one of those sets that was forged well enough that BGS was grading the fakes authentic. There is a thread about it from probably 18 months ago. I'd stay away completely!
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Old 06-09-2016, 01:17 AM   #6
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That front Kobe picture looks horrible. I say fake.
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Old 06-09-2016, 01:20 AM   #7
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Thanks for the feedback. Kinda figured it was fake, especially since it's coming from China. Shame this nonsense is out there.
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Old 06-09-2016, 01:24 AM   #8
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Every real one I've ever seen has surface issues or a scratch on the ball.
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Old 06-09-2016, 01:37 AM   #9
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Low feedback - check
Small volume feedback - check
Previous negative feedback for altered card - check
China -check


Yeah, no thanks.
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Old 06-09-2016, 02:20 AM   #10
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Yeah I haven't a clue but Kobe's front pic seems to be a tad off for how it is to correlate with the rest of the card.
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Old 06-09-2016, 02:39 AM   #11
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Real or Fake, either way is anyone touching these?
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Old 06-09-2016, 02:46 AM   #12
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100% Fake already confirmed on many facebook groups with very knowledgeable members.
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Old 06-09-2016, 10:05 AM   #13
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100% Fake already confirmed on many facebook groups with very knowledgeable members.
What Facebook page? I'd love to see it!

Anywho, I belive this is fake. I have two copies, both with horrendous surface damage but I bought them a long time ago before fakes became so rampant. I will attach a pic of mine and the main thing I could draw form comparison is the upper left skybox logo foil is fuzzy, and the bottom "Team skybox" foil doesn't look clean and has white showing underneath it.

Not 100% conclusive, but from my personal opinion and first glance it doesn't look legit.



Edit: here is my second one, again bad surface damage but as you can see the foil is much cleaner than the one on eBay
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Old 06-09-2016, 08:52 PM   #14
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that's scary. looks good to a novice like me.
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Old 03-05-2018, 03:16 AM   #15
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Have one that was graded in 2013 up now with a poor surface grade...but it's from Taiwan.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-98-Sky...733?rmvSB=true



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Old 03-05-2018, 03:22 AM   #16
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Must be the same guy Hocking the 10 Ultra Platinum Medallions on FB.
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Old 03-05-2018, 06:59 AM   #17
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Have one that was graded in 2013 up now with a poor surface grade...but it's from Taiwan.
The one from Taiwan is real. As everyone has already pointed out, the one the OP's post is fake. For anyone wondering, the serial numbering and team logo are the most obvious ways to tell.

The real Kobe from Taiwan:





The fake Kobe OP posted:



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