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Old 07-06-2017, 01:14 AM   #1
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Default Panini Country AUTOPENS Brian Kelley Florida George Line

More from the Autogate scandal. These have been out for awhile, not sure who was aware. Got this picture from collectors exposing this on twitter. @paniniamerica @FLAGALine

Updated as noted below - Tyler Hubbards autographs are also autopen.




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Old 07-06-2017, 01:23 AM   #2
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To think they actually paid all of these creeps really good money to do this.

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Old 07-06-2017, 02:03 AM   #3
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Fake news, Fake Daks and now Fake country guy!
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Don't sell one of these to anyone in California!

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Sad. I looked at images of Tyler Hubbard's card (his partner in Florida Georgia Line) and those are autopen too.
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Old 07-06-2017, 08:30 AM   #6
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wow, thanks for the heads up! Their autos were some of the only big names from that country set. The hobby boxes are already super cheap, I imagine the value would drop even more if this info became widespread.
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Old 07-06-2017, 09:14 AM   #8
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These are sticker autos. No?

Kind of begs the question- Why did no one notice this BEFORE they put them on the cards?
You would think if you had a page full of sticker autos and they ALL looked the EXACT same, you would question the authenticity of them first and not attach them to the cards if they were fraudulent (autopen).

I can sort of see, not really, if they were on card autos and you had to actually look at a few cards together to notice- but these are stickers on the same page.

Is it really that hard?
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These are sticker autos. No?

Kind of begs the question- Why did no one notice this BEFORE they put them on the cards?
You would think if you had a page full of sticker autos and they ALL looked the EXACT same, you would question the authenticity of them first and not attach them to the cards if they were fraudulent (autopen).

I can sort of see, not really, if they were on card autos and you had to actually look at a few cards together to notice- but these are stickers on the same page.

Is it really that hard?
I was wondering the same damn thing...How could nobody notice this on a sheet full of stickers!?!
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Sad. I looked at images of Tyler Hubbard's card (his partner in Florida Georgia Line) and those are autopen too.
Here are some of Tyler's "autographs".
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what do you expect now for 20 dollars a hobby box.. sigh.. shameful though.
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I was wondering the same damn thing...How could nobody notice this on a sheet full of stickers!?!
This falls directly on Panini. Zero excuse on a sheet of stickers. Honestly, not really acceptable with on-card either, but you can almost understand how those might slip through. Or not. Seriously, do these companies not even look at them?

But on a sticker Panini had to know. They just didn't care.
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This falls directly on Panini. Zero excuse on a sheet of stickers. Honestly, not really acceptable with on-card either, but you can almost understand how those might slip through. Or not. Seriously, do these companies not even look at them?

But on a sticker Panini had to know. They just didn't care.
They probably don't, at least on the production end. I read on another thread that Panini won't hire anybody for production work who collects cards, has any interest in cards, or knows somebody who's into cards. It's a theft-prevention measure.
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This falls directly on Panini. Zero excuse on a sheet of stickers. Honestly, not really acceptable with on-card either, but you can almost understand how those might slip through. Or not. Seriously, do these companies not even look at them?

But on a sticker Panini had to know. They just didn't care.
It falls directly on the musicians that chose to not honor their contract. They are the ones that didn't care.
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what do you expect now for 20 dollars a hobby box.. sigh.. shameful though.
$20 now...Back when it came out, it was prob $50+ at least.
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It falls directly on the musicians that chose to not honor their contract. They are the ones that didn't care.
I went to school with Brian Kelley. He was a douche then, still a douche.
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I went to school with Brian Kelley. He was a douche then, still a douche.
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They sold some "signed" albums online a few years ago that were also autopen.
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They sold some "signed" albums online a few years ago that were also autopen.
Here is one on eBay for $60!!

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Milli Vanilli became infamous when they signed autographs and everybody thought they sang. With these guys, it's the other way around!
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It falls directly on the musicians that chose to not honor their contract. They are the ones that didn't care.
Oh, the artist is to blame for doing it. I agree. But the stickers making their way onto cards and into the product is all on Panini.

You'll never convince me that they couldn't see all of the stickers with exactly the same signature. Forget about production, how about some quality control? Who received the sheets back in the mail and was in charge of managing the project? As bad as it is on the artist, I still say the bulk of responsibility falls on panini. Especially when it's this blatant.
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The bigger question is why these two clowns have an autopen in the first place? For Pete's sake they're Florida Georgia Line, a third-tier act in country music. While I would not condone it, I could almost see big stars like Kenny Chesney or Keith Urban using an autopen. But for the life of me I can't comprehend it with these guys.
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Thanks for posting this. . .

If Panini doesn't want to police this then they could post scans of the sticker sheets -- certainly collectors would notice a problem very quickly.
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Where is OPlum at? Will he swear they are real, and say Panini is not at fault?

About time Panini shady, standard practices finally come to light....

Panini, you have lost yet another valuable customer.
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Oh, the artist is to blame for doing it. I agree. But the stickers making their way onto cards and into the product is all on Panini.

You'll never convince me that they couldn't see all of the stickers with exactly the same signature. Forget about production, how about some quality control? Who received the sheets back in the mail and was in charge of managing the project? As bad as it is on the artist, I still say the bulk of responsibility falls on panini. Especially when it's this blatant.
I've worked for some cheap companies whose actions don't really indicate they care about their customers much. In my experience, quality control is considered a non-value add position in any company. Sure, they will say all the right things and many companies even have quality metrics. But they will understaff QC, hire poor fits, don't train them well (or at all) and often don't pay enough for people to actually care.

Maybe Panini is different, but I doubt it (especially based on the amount of issues they've had with fake autographs, non game-used jerseys, and the like). I personally believe that the quality control they have would be more focused on the cards themselves and autograph sticker placement more than the authenticity of the autographs. They are a sticker/card company primarily, not an autograph company. To me, that's a huge difference and why I wouldn't expect Panini to catch this.

I put more emphasis on how Panini chooses to respond to all this. They don't have a great track record in the past from what I've read.
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