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Old 04-09-2019, 07:17 PM   #1
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Default Bill Sliheet & Superior Sports Investments Selling Trimmed via PWCC (Kevin Burge too)

Preface/disclaimer: I taken every good faith measure possible to ensure these trimmed cards are originating in their graded and trimmed state on PWCC. If there is contradictory evidence to show that these cards do not originate from PWCC (e.g. the trimmers were not the consigners), please let me know and I will edit accordingly. Finally, if any links are broken or missing, let me know and I will add/fix them.

The bottom line here is buyer beware until PWCC starts caring about who it does business with. More coming later this week.


Sold: March 21, 2019
Source: SSI

2009 Panini Prestige Bonus Shots Orange Stephen Curry PSA 10 #143/300

Pre: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...eph-1885467112
Post: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1931770
Feedback: https://web.archive.org/web/20190405...4290315&page=3


The buyer here is buyalldayandnight, yet another SSI account. Besides their Arlington, Texas location and marketplacessi boilerplate description, their ID history contains wholesaleexchangeusa, which is strikingly similar to (presumably) defunct Bill Sliheet company Wholesale World Exchange.

buyalldayandnight: https://www.ebay.com/usr/buyalldayandnight
Source for Wholesale World Exchange info: https://www.manta.com/c/mhklkcj/whol...world-exchange



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Source: SSI (NOT PROVEN TO BE TRIMMED)


2009 Bowman '48 Blue Stephen Curry ROOKIE RC 0623/1948 #106 BGS 9

This serves as further evidence that SSI is submitting cards to PWCC, trimmed or untrimmed. Unfortunately, when Probstein sold this card to Sliheet, he used a generic front scan, so it is unknown if it is trimmed. (Although it is probably unlikely.) p***i is superiorsportsinv.

Raw sale: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...hen-1796597959
Graded card: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1963824
Feedback: https://web.archive.org/web/20190409...9933&page=5595



MOREOVER, SSI has sold two of the Curry blue cards from the same BGS submission on marketplacessi in 2018:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...hen-1932086890
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...hen-1937230464

I cannot find any record of this card ever selling graded on Ebay.


Sold: May 21, 2018
Source: Kevin Burge

2009-10 Panini Studio Signatures Stephen Curry BGS 9.5 #179/199

Pre noting edge damage: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...urry-464463687
Pre purchased by Burge showing damage: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...rry-1873817520
Post from PWCC: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1660261
Post showing trimmed edge: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-10-Ste...p2047675.l2557
Feedback:https://web.archive.org/web/20190403...3197727&page=5


The feedback is for known Kevin Burge account got1morethanshaq.
Link: https://www.ebay.com/usr/got1morethanshaq

I am confident these were consigned by Burge or one of his associates as many of the cards in this BGS submission were sold though PWCC.
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Old 04-09-2019, 07:33 PM   #2
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Sadly many of the cards will likely be dumped off this way. That way the paper trail is harder to pick-up.

Am sure many will be dumped at this show as well.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1274112
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Old 04-09-2019, 07:45 PM   #3
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Great work on uncovering another previously unknown SSI shell name, buyalldayandnight. He might rival only Kevin Burge for most eBay user IDs.

And I agree with shrevecity that many of the cards outed in the original SSI threads will be dumped on dealers in card shows in the coming months.
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Old 04-09-2019, 08:14 PM   #4
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PWCC will have records on who submitted what for consignment. I would think PWCC would have some sort of dignity and address this issue. Try calling them during business hours.
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Old 04-09-2019, 08:17 PM   #5
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PWCC will have records on who submitted what for consignment. I would think PWCC would have some sort of dignity and address this issue. Try calling them during business hours.
They can use alternate names to submit them under. We already know the trimmers in Dallas are using many names nd i am sure there are many others across the country that are likely both involved and being duped into buying and selling these cards.
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Old 04-09-2019, 08:23 PM   #6
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Good work OP.
Thanks for your efforts.


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Old 04-10-2019, 06:19 AM   #7
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That sucks these guys are tampering with these nice high end cards. Scum of the hobby. This seems like the easy unethical way of making money. No other way for these losers to make a dime?
Awesome work that you guys do. Appreciate it.

And Pwcc I thought was one of the better major consignors, apparently not. That description he left about the edges being pristine, you never see that, blahblah,blah, makes me want to yak!

(Insert Jim Carrie gagging gif here) lol
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Old 04-10-2019, 09:34 AM   #8
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And I agree with shrevecity that many of the cards outed in the original SSI threads will be dumped on dealers in card shows in the coming months.
I attend one of the shows he sets up at in Dallas. I won't be buying anything from him ever again. He always has such nice stuff, and now I know why.

I wish the guys in Dallas would ban him from their shows. I know he has his own show, and I wish dealers would boycott setting up at his shows.
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Old 04-10-2019, 10:15 AM   #9
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I attend one of the shows he sets up at in Dallas. I won't be buying anything from him ever again. He always has such nice stuff, and now I know why.

I wish the guys in Dallas would ban him from their shows. I know he has his own show, and I wish dealers would boycott setting up at his shows.
It goes deeper in dallas than you think. There are likely some who you may think are innocent but they are just not identified yet.
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This buyer now has remorse over buying $450 worth of DeGrom cards from me 2 weeks ago on account buyalldayandnight. I received a return request this morning through ebay.

Here are some more account names / selling names linked to this user based on transactions with me. I am pretty sure I have blocked some of these so now I will have to fight with ebay even though it appears there is nothing I can do.

Ebay ID buyalldayandnight - Superior Sports Inv / Bill Sliheet

Ebay ID rookieparade - Also trades under Superior Sports Investments name. Doesn't look to be a valid ID anymore so probably changed.

Ebay ID number1_49erfan - Goes as Mansfield SportsCards / Bill Sliheet / Kristopher King on various transactions with me. This appears to still be a valid ID.
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:50 AM   #11
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This buyer now has remorse over buying $450 worth of DeGrom cards from me 2 weeks ago on account buyalldayandnight. I received a return request this morning through ebay.

Here are some more account names / selling names linked to this user based on transactions with me. I am pretty sure I have blocked some of these so now I will have to fight with ebay even though it appears there is nothing I can do.

Ebay ID buyalldayandnight - Superior Sports Inv / Bill Sliheet

Ebay ID rookieparade - Also trades under Superior Sports Investments name. Doesn't look to be a valid ID anymore so probably changed.

Ebay ID number1_49erfan - Goes as Mansfield SportsCards / Bill Sliheet / Kristopher King on various transactions with me. This appears to still be a valid ID.

When you receive the deGrom cards back, make sure they were not butchered in an attempt to trim them.

The main SSI eBay ID has changed from marketplacessi to superiorsportsinvestments on eBay. This was the account where the Blowout team found all the cards he trimmed.

Also, I am wondering if Bill hired one of those companies that "fixes" your Google search results. Could someone else verify this: when you type Superior Sports Investments into Google, none of the Blowout information comes up.
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When you receive the deGrom cards back, make sure they were not butchered in an attempt to trim them.

The main SSI eBay ID has changed from marketplacessi to superiorsportsinvestments on eBay. This was the account where the Blowout team found all the cards he trimmed.

Also, I am wondering if Bill hired one of those companies that "fixes" your Google search results. Could someone else verify this: when you type Superior Sports Investments into Google, none of the Blowout information comes up.
Nothing comes up on the first page of Google search results re SSI/Blowout...

the 1st result on the 2nd page is the following: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1188544
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Nothing comes up on the first page of Google search results re SSI/Blowout
I couldn't even get the Blowout results on the second or third page either.
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I couldn't even get the Blowout results on the second or third page either.
I edited my initial post, see that again.
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I edited my initial post, see that again.
Yup, that is the only Blowout result that comes up in all 6 pages of Google results. Yet that is a post that SSI made unrelated to all the trimming.
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Yup, that is the only Blowout result that comes up in all 6 pages of Google results. Yet that is a post that SSI made unrelated to all the trimming.
Yep.. Google has been purged off anything related to trimming and SSI..
Now.. if you put SSI, blowout in Google, the first two results are trimming threads, but what regular joe that doesn't frequent Blowout is going to know about that?
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SSI eBay ID list:

superiorsportsinvestments (formerly marketplacessi)
superiorsportsinv
alotofrookies
buyalldayandnight
gradethesecards
ngnichols1983
wwext
rookieparade
number1_49erfan
mansfield_sportscards
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Old 04-25-2019, 12:28 AM   #18
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I searched on Google
superior sports investments

I did not use quotation marks or put in any limits.

The 8th result was the Drew Brees RC Trims thread from BO.
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Yep.. Google has been purged off anything related to trimming and SSI..
Now.. if you put SSI, blowout in Google, the first two results are trimming threads, but what regular joe that doesn't frequent Blowout is going to know about that?
Not the end of the world. If someone paid to have them removed, they can and will just be re-indexed.

The way you do that is as follows;
Paste links to this thread in as many places around the web as possible. Link the thread on facebook, twitter, instagram, reddit, etc.. everywhere you possibly can.
Googles crawlers will keep seeing the same link and prioritize its re-indexing, thus undoing the removal efforts, and sending the customers money down the crapper.

Do it.. in a week, it'll all be back.
If it suddenly disappears again, rinse and repeat.
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Nichols is definitely at the show

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Nichols is definitely at the show
The Iceman makes an appearance.
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Nichols is definitely at the show


Does he have a table? This is why I ask:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...99&postcount=9
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Old 10-17-2019, 03:57 PM   #23
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Is it me or are these the same guys now selling on COMC?? Superiorsportsinvestments

https://www.comc.com/Cards/Baseball/..._Gwynn/9218711

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They've been on COMC for quite a while. COMC has removed a bunch of their items when it was pointed out they're notorious trimmers.
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They've been on COMC for quite a while. COMC has removed a bunch of their items when it was pointed out they're notorious trimmers.
I’m struggling to recall anything being removed by COMC. SSI took down a few cards themselves.
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