Directory of Trimmed/Altered threads

[SaveMeTheGum]

Trying to put together a directory of all the multiple trimming/altering threads that have been posted lately. I don’t mean for this to take the place of newer threads, as I feel it is extremely important that these continue to get reported – I just want to be able to share a single link to other collectors outside of this forum or for people who have not been seeing these.
Here we go in no particular order (only including newer ones with scans/pics):


Altered card database: https://www.tiffanycards.com/buyer-beware


Media Coverage/Action:



Baseball card collectors suspected rampant fraud in their hobby. Now the FBI is investigating -- Washington Post

Retouching the Mona Lisa Is Restoration, but a Mickey Mantle? Collectors Cry Fraud -- NY Times

FBI issues subpoenas as part of widening sports trading card fraud investigation -- USA Today

Newest Rovell Article - tough day for Joe Orlando -- Darren Rovell article

How a scandal unfolded and shaped the battle for card collecting’s soul -- The Athletic


Lake Oswego auctioneer enmeshed in sports card scandal -- The Oregonian

PSA “Conducting Own Investigation” Into Altered Cards -- Sports Collectors Daily

Class action suit filed against PSA, PWCC and Probstein -- Class Action


Baseball:

‘52 Mantle PWCC auction <--- This is a good one to start with

Beware of Ongoing PSA and PWCC Scam: "Grade Reviewed By PSA"

Gregory Alan Libersher - Estero, Florida - Ebay ID: glibersher is a CARD TRIMMER

Rolling Thread of FAKE 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle Cards in TPG Holders— Got 5 to Start

Trimmed Gary Moser PSA 7 1948 Leaf Dom DiMaggio SP in PWCC Vault

PWCC Selling PSA 9 1968 Topps Mays #50 Trimmed by OCSI- Ends 2/8

PSA 10 (Pop 1) Harmon Killebrew 1956 Topps #164 is trimmed by ???

REA Selling Trimmed SGC 8 & Altered PSA 3 Copies of 1933 Sport Kings Babe Ruth #2

Rolling Thread for Fake 1991 Topps Desert Shield Cards

John & Kamala Slight; Escondido, CA; Ebay: sundiegocollectibles, WIWAG, CARD DOCTORS

Andy Tuttle; Marco Island, FL, Ebay: consignmints, is a CARD DOCTOR (all PSA graded)

ALERT: $72,000 Honus Wagner is a fraud! Heritage Auctions SGC 7.5 was PSA ALTERED!

Did You Win This $27,600 "Waterfront" Satchel Paige Card in REA's December Auction?

Charlie Barokas: Mercer Island WA, Ebay: manontherock, is a CARD TRIMMER (PSA Graded)

David Thorn's Auction House, Small Traditions, is a Criminal Trimming & Fraud Racket

Evan Mathis Trimming Anything and Everything to Sell via Probstein, PWCC, & COMC

ALERT: Altered PSA 4.5 1933 Goudey Babe Ruth in the PWCC Vault (w/ PWCC Sticker)

$80 to $37.5k- Probstein Selling Newly Graded & Trimmed POP 1 PSA 10 '60 Topps Spahn

Longtime dealer Johnny Adams Jr. trimmed vintage cards and sold thru PWCC for years

Trimmed PSA 10 1995 Signature Rookies Derek Jeter auto

BEWARE: COMC- DylansCards eBay- farmer-gary dylans_sports_cards collectorscornercards

September PWCC Update: PWCC Still Selling Trimmed Cards for Ex-Con Will Jaimet

MUST READ TRIMMING THREAD: COMC- HawkDynasty,cccardfactory,LORDSTANLEY2012|PWCC|ih8ca

Double the Experience, Double the Knowledge: The Skerbe Twins of Triple sSs Sports

MILE HIGH CARD COMPANY Knowingly Selling Gary Moser's Altered Cards

ALERT: PWCC & Probstein Still Consigning From Card Trimmers & Selling Trimmed Cards

Trimmers: Triple sSs Sportscards, triplesssinc, Mike Skerbe, Mark Skerbe, Rich Davis

ALTERED 2011 Topps Update Mike Trout Gold /2011 Serial #'s: 0088, 0522, 1089, 1228

Visit Card Trimmer Justin Stafford of Mohawk Sports Cards at the National- Booth 619

Long-Time Con Artist Rodrick "Rod" Iman of rbisportsinc Also Trims A Lot of Cards

PWCC Selling Schmidt Auto Trimmed by Brandon Taing/Idol/rookiesonly99/Metro Sports

BUYER BEWARE: PWCC Selling Altered 1909 E102 Ty Cobb SGC 4

PWCC Reselling Trimmed Cards that Have Been Called Out as Trimmed

Just Uncovered: Two More Altered 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle Cards from Gary Moser/PWCC

PWCC and Whitman111 PSA Submissions

Trimmer Robert Block Achieves 6 of 8 BGS 10 2010 Bowman Platinum Trouts in one Sub

Uncovering Robert Block's Seven-Figure Trimming Fraud- Perpetuated by BGS & PWCC

Trimming on BO: Member Steven Tormollan = etheljean2014 on eBay & Proven Card Trimmer

At Least 2/4 1993 SP PSA 10 Jeters Sold by PWCC are Trimmed (Includes $99k Sale)

BUYER BEWARE: Trimmed PSA-10 2000 Topps Traded Miguel Cabrera RC Auto (PWCC)

Trimmed Kershaw Sterling Sold via PWCC in Same PSA Sub as Lost/Stolen Mahomes Auto

Avoid this Trimmed Ichiro Bowman's Best RC in PWCC's May Auction

$22.5k of Trimmed Harper 2012 Topps Heritage High Autos Sold via PWCC and Probstein

9 More Trimmed 2009 Trout Elite Extra Edition Autos Sold via PWCC

Baseball Cards Trimmed by Heroes of Sport Owner Will Jaimet and Sold via PWCC

Bill Sliheet & Superior Sports Investments Selling Trimmed via PWCC (Kevin Burge too)

BUYER BEWARE: Trimmed PSA-10 2000 Stadium Club Derek Jeter Co-Signers on Ebay

ALERT: Trimmed PSA 10 2001 UD Reserve Pujols 1987/2500 Being Sold by PWCC

Attn Jeter Collectors: Avoid this Trimmed Card—2001 Fleer GOTG Autograph PSA 9

Avoid These Two PWCC PSA 10 Cards- Trimmed

eBay seller bristolcollectibles selling trimmed PSA graded cards. Details Here.

Will Jaimet: Trimmer, Felon, Scammer, Heroes of Sport Owner, Large PWCC Consigner

Altering an Altered Card: 2009 Bowman Chrome Draft XFractor Mike Trout Auto 141/225

Eric Bitz / BuyNiceCards Trimming Scandal Hits Baseball


Baskeball:

ALERT: 93 PROVEN TRIMMED Stephen Curry and James Harden RCs Sold Via PWCC

ATTN: Probstein $150k Luka Neon Green Prizm Graded SGC 9.5/MBA Gold has Repair Work

Heritage Selling Trimmed PSA 10 SPx LeBron James RC AU, PSA 10 Classics Curry RC Auto

Another Counterfeit 2003 Fleer Tradition LeBron RC Graded by PSA: In PWCC Vault

BUYER BEWARE of Fake High-End BGS Slabs From Probstein: Luka and Zion Prizm

PSA unknowingly shows off the newest ALTERED Kawhi NT RPA

Several PSA/BGS Graded Cards being Sold as Trimmed by Goldin- Giannis|Jordan|Curry...

PWCC Selling Trimmed PSA 10 Kobe '97 Finest Gold Embossed Ref, from psa.gems in 2013

LeBron James 2003-04 SP Authentic auto /500 – KNOWN ALTERED COPIES

ALTERED 2003-04 SP Authentic Auto LeBron James RC /500 Serial #'s: 064, 182, 429

ALERT: Heritage Selling Trimmed PSA 10 Lebron SPA RC Auto #252/500 With PWCC Origin

Alert: Fake Donovan Mitchell Patch Spotted

Rolling Thread: Trimmed & Altered Basketball Cards in PWCC's May Auction

Blowout Altered Cards Reference Sheet (Basketball)

LeBron Exquisite /99 - altered & damaged

Attention BODA: Blowout Member SSIGuy Selling Altered Cards, eBay ID= marketplacessi

BUYER BEWARE: PSA-9 trimmed Michael Jordan 2007-08 Fleer Supreme Court 12/25 Auto

BUYER BEWARE: PSA-10 trimmed Kevin Durant 2007 Premier Impressions Gold 05/25 Auto

Basketball Cards Trimmed by Heroes of Sport Owner Will Jaimet and Sold via PWCC

Trimmed Lebron James being sold by PWCC as PSA 10. UD Phenomenal Beginning #42/100

ALERT: Two Trimmed Curry RCs Being Sold by PWCC

Altered Michael Jordan 1/1 Booklet from PWCC

Warning: Probstein123 Selling Trimmed Jordan/Lebron Dual Autograph

Trimmed 1997-98 Jordan PMG Goldin auction



Football:

PWCC Selling Trimmed PSA 10 Cracked Ice Mahomes Contenders Horizontal #11/25

ATTN: $50k 2000 SPx PSA 10 Tom Brady RC Currently on Myslabs is Trimmed

ATTN AARON RODGERS BUYERS: Trimmer Dominick Cirigliano (domboski2005) is Cashing Out

Dennis Pevarnick: Ebay bbcinv, South Lake Tahoe, CA is a confirmed CARD DOCTOR

BUYER BEWARE of Trimmed Cards For Sale and Sold by eBay User sandiegosd

ALERT: Probstein Selling Trimmed PSA 10 Mahomes Contenders AU- $10,400 & Ending Tmw

ALERT: Probstein Selling Trimmed PSA 10 2002 Brady Championship Ticket #077/250

Alleged Card Trimmer and Former PSA Employee Mike Souza Exposed— eBay ID= 9999rbush

$19,135.20 PSA 10 on PSA's Twitter Banner is Altered- Former $149 PSA 8- triplesssinc <--- IRONY AT ITS BEST

Catch-All of Trimmed Football Cards (Brady, Rodgers, etc.)

PWCC Selling Garbage Tom Brady Items in August Auction (Fake Auto+ GMA Junk)

16 Proven Trimmed UD Ionix Brady RCs & More Suspected- Most from Robert Block, PWCC

Fake Tom Brady Patch Auto Later Trimmed, Graded by PSA, and Sold Via PWCC

BUYER BEWARE: 1948 Leaf Football cards trimmed and then graded by PSA

Fake Aaron Rodgers 1/1 Patch For Sale in PWCC's May Auction

BUYER BEWARE: Deceitful Business Practices by PWCC (Brees, Brady)

Rolling Thread: Trimmed & Altered Football Cards in PWCC's May Auction

Alert: Tom Brady 2000 Playoff Momentum Rookie #193/750 BGS 9.5- Trimmed

Another Day, Another Trimmed Card—Avoid this PSA 10 Peyton Manning Auto

Avoid these PWCC Auctions: Fake Brady NFL Shield, Three Trimmed Brady Pacific RCs

Football Cards Trimmed by Heroes of Sport Owner Will Jaimet and Sold via PWCC

Drew Brees Card Graded BGS 9.5 Gains Almost $9,000 in Value After Trimming

Drew Brees RC Trims: Superior Sports Investments / Bill Sliheet eBay= marketplacessi

Brian Ehricke Deer— Alleged Card Trimming Fraud, eBay IDs = isellurcards / f.o.t.s.19




Hockey:

Consecutive Run of 13 Trimmed BGS 9.5 McDavid SPAs- Sold by Robert Block via PWCC

Check out this Trimmed $50,000 Card in an SGC Slab that Heritage is Auctioning...

Trimmed & Suspected Trimmed Hockey Cards in PWCC's May Auction

Fake Connor McDavid Ultimate Patch AU via PWCC

Probstein123 Selling BGS 8.5 2005-06 UD The Cup Sidney Crosby Auto RC w/ Fake Patch


Golf:

PWCC Selling Trimmed PSA 10 2003 SP GU Marks of a Champion Tiger Woods Auto #14/15

Avoid this Trimmed Rory McIlroy SPA Black Label in PWCC's May Auction


MISC:

Start Here: The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud <--- Good Summary

PSA Response from President Steve Sloan

PWCC and Whitman111 PSA Submissions

Brent Huigens & PWCC Used pwcc_auctions ID to Buy Cards for Gary Moser to Trim/Alter

Finding the Owners of Gary Moser's Trimmed Cards: A Look into the PSA Set Registry

Trimmed 1952 Topps Look 'N See FDR Gains $5,531 Thru PWCC

...in our opinion, acts of conservation are not uncommon in the market...



Not sure where the best place for this is, so mods, go ahead and move if you need (maybe consider making a sticky).

If I’m missing any, let me know and I’ll update the OP

[ThoseBackPages]

as long as there are baseball cards included, cant see why its not fine here.


i WOULD recommend you split it up in your OP by sport

[superdan49]

Didn't realize there were that many. That is sad and impressive. And to think this all started with a single post in that LeBron thread by a member who hasn't come back.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by superdan49

Didn't realize there were that many. That is sad and impressive. And to think this all started with a single post in that LeBron thread by a member who hasn't come back.

I've actually found threads going back to 2014 and older referencing some of the same sellers, but either the links don't work anymore or the pics are gone, or they didn't have pics, so I've excluded them.

[majestik101]

subbed

[superdan49]

Thread is now stickied. Nicely done, OP!

[SaveMeTheGum]

Thank you mods!

[SaveMeTheGum]

One of my favorite all time movies is The Big Short. No matter what type of corruption/fraud is taking place, it's always follows a similar model. I see a lot of parallels between these situation and what happens in the movie (bascially, what happened in real life). I'll leave names out of this since we all know who is who.

Trimmers:
First and foremost, the blame falls to those actually creating the problem in the first place. These are usually the scum of the earth who are good at creating problems, profiting greatly from them, and then quickly distancing themselves from those problems. Luckily, they are usally dumb enough to think they can never get caught and leave a trail of breadcrumbs (most are found on the Beckett Industry forum invitee list...). These are the CDO managers from the movie. In real life, Wing Chau was indicted and ends up crying on the stand. How wonderful would that be if it was the trimmers:

"You think I'm a parasite Mr. Baum, but apparently society values me very much. Let's do this, I'll tell you how much I'm worth if you tell me how much you’re worth".



Grading companies:
These are the companies that are paid to ensure the integrity of the product(s). They sell "trust". But if they are too incompetent, or worse involved in the faud, the fraud becomes legit and grows along with profits exponentially.

"If we don't give them the ratings, they'll go to Moody's. Right down the block. If we don't work with them, they will go to our competitors"



Consigment companies:
These are the ones that bring the fraudulent products to the unsuspecting masses. It's not their fault, right? They didn't trim the cards. They didn't grade the cards. They are just helping people sell them. They use their credibility and marketing to build up their brand and leverage that to sell a "High End" product, but assume no responsibility for what they are doing. Much like the mortgage brokers.

"I used to be a bar tender and now I own a boat!"



Detectives:
The ones that see what's going on and call bulls*$%. If only there was a way to profit off of taking down the trimmers like in Steve Eisman (Mark Baum) and Michael Burry.

"We live in an era of fraud in America. Not just in banking, but in government, education, religion, food, even baseball... What bothers me isn't that fraud is not nice. Or that fraud is mean. For fifteen thousand years, fraud and short sighted thinking have never, ever worked. Not once. Eventually, you get caught, things go south. "

[Deadshot]

Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

Trying to put together a directory of all the multiple trimming/altering threads that have been posted lately. I don’t mean for this to take the place of newer threads, as I feel it is extremely important that these continue to get reported – I just want to be able to share a single link to other collectors outside of this forum or for people who have not been seeing these.
Here we go in no particular order (only including newer ones with scans/pics):


Baskeball:

If I’m missing any, let me know and I’ll update the OP

I've been keeping a running list of altered basketball cards for awhile now. Feel free to add this to your post if you see the need

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1266012

[Bassplayah101]

http://www.sportscardradio.com/heroe...up-break-scam/


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[hche]

Thank you mods! This needs to be done.

[3124508 on COMC]

Basketball:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1291418
Football:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1291446
Baseball:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1291554
Golf:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1291400

[SaveMeTheGum]

Updated for this weekend's activity. This is getting out of control...

[investinrookies]

Great info and thanks for doing this.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Keeping up with 312's work is getting difficult...

[TarjetasBéisbol]

I am sure that there will be many more links added to this thread but at what point do collectors just stop caring? None of the eBay sellers seem to really care and only offer weak responses to this crap. Have any of the grading companies said anything? Toss in the fact that the HOF just opened an exhibit on cards and one of the displays shows info on grading, it doesn’t seem as if they even care.

[TarjetasBéisbol]

Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

Updated for this weekend's activity. This is getting out of control...

Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

Keeping up with 312's work is getting difficult...

Thanks for trying and it could be a full time job!

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by TarjetasBéisbol

I am sure that there will be many more links added to this thread but at what point do collectors just stop caring? None of the eBay sellers seem to really care and only offer weak responses to this crap. Have any of the grading companies said anything? Toss in the fact that the HOF just opened an exhibit on cards and one of the displays shows info on grading, it doesn’t seem as if they even care.

It's not an overnight fix. It'll happen small amounts at a time. Personally, I will no longer pay premium for PSA 10's/BGS 9.5's. I used to pay ungodly money for the highest graded cards I needed in my PC. That money now goes elsewhere. I'm just one person, but I'm sure others will do the same. At least this thread exists so it can be shared outside of Blowout, and people can decide for themselves how much trust to put into grades and consignment companies. Just keep sharing this thread wherever you can and spread the word. You can only lead a horse to water...

[TarjetasBéisbol]

Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

It's not an overnight fix. It'll happen small amounts at a time. Personally, I will no longer pay premium for PSA 10's/BGS 9.5's. I used to pay ungodly money for the highest graded cards I needed in my PC. That money now goes elsewhere. I'm just one person, but I'm sure others will do the same. At least this thread exists so it can be shared outside of Blowout, and people can decide for themselves how much trust to put into grades and consignment companies. Just keep sharing this thread wherever you can and spread the word. You can only lead a horse to water...

I totally agree and it will take a long time. Sure PWCC made there statement and tried to give an explanation and even went as far as creating their “tenets”, which in my opinion makes them look sad, but we have heard nothing from the grading companies. I really don’t expect it to happen since PSA has been shady since their early years and it seems as if nobody cares.

[superdan49]

Friendly bump for this supremely useful thread.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Semi-annual bump...

[SaveMeTheGum]

Good reminder as we are heading into National...

[DragonWagon]

Here is a list of all of the cards that have been outed in all of the threads. It is sorted by sport and then player last name. You can even search for a specific serial number. https://www.tiffanycards.com/buyer-beware

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by DragonWagon

Here is a list of all of the cards that have been outed in all of the threads. It is sorted by sport and then player last name. You can even search for a specific serial number. https://www.tiffanycards.com/buyer-beware

Nice work. That basketball list is insane...