PWCC Altered Cards Callout Thread - 1952 Topps Mantle etc

[corndog]

PSA Cert #28469629

1909-11 T206 Billy Maloney - Piedmont

Value gain of $919.00

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from PWCC as a PSA-4.5 on August 09, 2017 for $81.00. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1526383
Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA-7 for $1,000.00 on February 05, 2018. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1600048

Yellow circles are print and fiber identifiers.
Red squares show color work and spot reduction.

[superdan49]

SGC Cert #:5013007

1948 Leaf #79 Jackie Robinson SGC 6.5 to SGC 7.5

Sold on 11/13/2017 as a SGC 6.5 by PWCC to whitman111 (Gary Moser) for $8,988.00
Consigned to PWCC and sold on 10/15/2018 as a SGC 7.5 for $41,336.00
Value gain of $32,348!


This card is so far the single biggest gainer in value for a Gary Moser altered card sold through PWCC. Prior to posting, I showed photos of the before and after to a veteran vintage dealer who looked at the card and confirmed that the "paper fibers that are natural to most Leaf cards" had been chemically bleached out. This bright white color is not natural to the 1948-49 Leaf set. According to the definitions on SGC's website, this card should have been completely rejected with the code B for bleached. SGC defines bleaching as a "generic term for the chemical process of cleaning or removing stains or dirt."

Furthermore, in green circles on Robinson's hat, you will notice two stray white marks on the SGC 6.5 card. These obviously have been partially colored over in the SGC 7.5 card. We've seen Moser's handiwork throughout this thread, and he is more than capable of such recoloring work, as demonstrated in many different cases.

Interestingly, as noted in the description on PWCC's website, this card was "recently assessed at this year's [2018] National Convention." That means it was provided to SGC raw, and in person. Who gave them this card? Was it Moser? Was it a staff member of PWCC? SGC should have the answer to this critical question. It will go a long way in determining who is responsible to refunding the unfortunate owner.

Red circles on the back and front are unique paper fibers. The green circles, as mentioned above, are areas that have been retouched with color. This is yet another Moser altered card that has received a special PWCC Premium Quality sticker.


SGC 6.5: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1572888
SGC 7.5: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1806868

[3124508 on COMC]

I guess keep calling these cards out guys because that's the only way that PWCC is going to contact buyers?

Let's keep doing work for them!

[MoreToppsPlease]

:numb:

[superdan49]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

I guess keep calling these cards out guys because that's the only way that PWCC is going to contact buyers?

Let's keep doing work for them!

Someone forwarded me the generic text used in these refund e-mails:

PWCC Marketplace is reaching out to buyers of cards that have been sold recently which PWCC believes have evidence of alteration. We have identified the dealer who submitted your altered card and, working with the dealer and the grading company, we will work to refund your purchase price as well as taking the card out of circulation – by ultimately causing the card to be forwarded to law enforcement.

I'm curious what law enforcement they are working with. This can't be good news for one Gary Moser.

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by superdan49

Someone forwarded me the generic text used in these refund e-mails:



I'm curious what law enforcement they are working with. This can't be good news for one Gary Moser.

Pretty sure that's going only to people who bought a called out card or half the forum would've gotten an email. We shall see.

[pspa123]

That card is just too white to me.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by pspa123

That card is just too white to me.

If you look at the flips, the white card even has the darker flip, which means that the scan was actually darker on the 7.5 than the 6.5.

That’s just crazy!

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

If you look at the flips, the white card even has the darker flip, which means that the scan was actually darker on the 7.5 than the 6.5.

That’s just crazy!

One is black and the other is green, so...

[superdan49]

Corndog, if you look in the lower right corner of that Maloney, it appears in the PSA 4.5 there is a slight crack in the enamel. I think that is what Moser repaired to get that up to a PSA 7.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

One is black and the other is green, so...

I meant the whiteness of the flips. You can tell the green/white one has a brighter contrast than the black/white one, which is amazing given how bright the card in the black/white one is.

[superdan49]

Rovell tweeting out about this again:

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/sta...57450249924609

[signed79]

I love how someone with influence actually gets it.

[pspa123]

He seems to be mischaracterizing their actual letter.

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by pspa123

He seems to be mischaracterizing their actual letter.

Agreed.

ETA: But they mischaracterized their actual letter.

[corndog]

***NOTE: These three cards and four others were all purchased by Gary Moser under his whitman111 Ebay ID. All seven cards are 1953 Parkhurst Jean Beliveau. Five of the seven cards were purchased by sellers other than PWCC and two were from PWCC. These cards were tediously researched and discovered by a fellow Blowout member who passed along the very useful information. This is a good example of just how prolific Gary Moser was at altering vintage Parkhurst hockey cards. I and others could probably spend several weeks just posting altered Parkhurst cards as the list is long. In time, we can probably set up a database (as mentioned by SuperDan) and have a Parkhurst section for collectors to check.
I will post the other four cards tomorrow.


PSA Cert #24182142

1953 Parkhurst Jean Beliveau RC #27

Value gain of $246.00

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from nolifecollector as a PSA-4 on November 17, 2014 for $471.00. Worthpoint link: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...psa-1692387039
Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA-5 for $717.00 on June 21, 2015. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1132215

Yellow circles are print and fiber identifiers. I have confirmed three fibers (two in the same circle) on the back which makes it a match.
Red squares show at least one edge has been trimmed. The card has also been cleaned making it appear brighter.





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PSA Cert #25959148

1953 Parkhurst Jean Beliveau RC #27

Value gain of $969.00

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from ctmste-foy as a PSA-4 on January 30, 2016 for $530.00. Information and photos from VCP
Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA-6 for $1,499.00 on May 21, 2017. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1493539

Yellow circles are print and fiber identifiers.
Red squares show trimmed edges and staining removed from the back. The card has also been cleaned making it appear brighter.





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PSA Cert #25959148

1953 Parkhurst Jean Beliveau RC #27

Value gain of $969.00

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from topshelfpuckcards as a PSA-4 on May 18, 2017 for $563.96. Information and photo from VCP.
Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA-6 for $2,283.55 on October 28, 2018. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1493539

Red squares show trimmed edges. This card did not appear in Worthpoint so the only image was in VCP. I am comfortable with saying the card is a match due to exact registration and all color specs, both light and dark, matching with nothing being different printwise. If someone can provide a link to the back image let me know and I will edit.

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Agreed.

ETA: But they mischaracterized their actual letter.

No surprise there.

[Doublexthebeast]

Originally Posted by superdan49

Someone forwarded me the generic text used in these refund e-mails:



I'm curious what law enforcement they are working with. This can't be good news for one Gary Moser.

They also stated that they are working with the dealer. At some point they are going to run out of cash and likely using each auctions revenue to float return funds. People still submitting cards need to worry and hopefully stop submitting.

[I only pull for]

Originally Posted by superdan49

SGC Cert #:5013007

1948 Leaf #79 Jackie Robinson SGC 6.5 to SGC 7.5

Sold on 11/13/2017 as a SGC 6.5 by PWCC to whitman111 (Gary Moser) for $8,988.00
Consigned to PWCC and sold on 10/15/2018 as a SGC 7.5 for $41,336.00
Value gain of $32,348!


This card is so far the single biggest gainer in value for a Gary Moser altered card sold through PWCC. Prior to posting, I showed photos of the before and after to a veteran vintage dealer who looked at the card and confirmed that the "paper fibers that are natural to most Leaf cards" had been chemically bleached out. This bright white color is not natural to the 1948-49 Leaf set. According to the definitions on SGC's website, this card should have been completely rejected with the code B for bleached. SGC defines bleaching as a "generic term for the chemical process of cleaning or removing stains or dirt."

Furthermore, in green circles on Robinson's hat, you will notice two stray white marks on the SGC 6.5 card. These obviously have been partially colored over in the SGC 7.5 card. We've seen Moser's handiwork throughout this thread, and he is more than capable of such recoloring work, as demonstrated in many different cases.

Interestingly, as noted in the description on PWCC's website, this card was "recently assessed at this year's [2018] National Convention." That means it was provided to SGC raw, and in person. Who gave them this card? Was it Moser? Was it a staff member of PWCC? SGC should have the answer to this critical question. It will go a long way in determining who is responsible to refunding the unfortunate owner.

Red circles on the back and front are unique paper fibers. The green circles, as mentioned above, are areas that have been retouched with color. This is yet another Moser altered card that has received a special PWCC Premium Quality sticker.


SGC 6.5: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1572888
SGC 7.5: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1806868

That 6.5 was a beautiful card and now it's ruined. I have a hard time believing PWCC had no hand in this scam of Moser. The 6.5 deserved a HE sticker, not the damn bleached 7.5 that his partner ruined! These ruined Robinson rookies have kept me from bidding on any high end Jackie rookies because of Moser's reputation of doctoring 48's.

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by Doublexthebeast

They also stated that they are working with the dealer. At some point they are going to run out of cash and likely using each auctions revenue to float return funds. People still submitting cards need to worry and hopefully stop submitting.

My theory is they are currently auctioning collateral from at least one trimmer to cover refunds. But what about the altered cards in the collateral?

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by Doublexthebeast

They also stated that they are working with the dealer. At some point they are going to run out of cash and likely using each auctions revenue to float return funds. People still submitting cards need to worry and hopefully stop submitting.

This would imply a middle man between Moser and PWCC.

[Doublexthebeast]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

My theory is they are currently auctioning collateral from at least one trimmer to cover refunds. But what about the altered cards in the collateral?

Ooooohhhhh that’s a great question. I guess you don’t have to pay that back if the doors are shut to the vault.

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

This would imply a middle man between Moser and PWCC.

Yeah, or they are still dealing with Moser. We will probably never know for sure.

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

My theory is they are currently auctioning collateral from at least one trimmer to cover refunds. But what about the altered cards in the collateral?

They seem to be spinning that this scandal is only about Gary. It's not. Not close.

[HBMC]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I meant the whiteness of the flips. You can tell the green/white one has a brighter contrast than the black/white one, which is amazing given how bright the card in the black/white one is.

It has been chemically altered too. The back of the card got the treatment too. I'm seeing this with a lot of these cards.

That Robinson is absolutely a crime.

[HBMC]

Also, this felt necessary: