Consecutive Run of 13 Trimmed BGS 9.5 McDavid SPAs- Sold by Robert Block via PWCC

3124508 on COMC · 05-25-2019, 01:49 PM

See here for more info on Robert Block:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1295881

All are consecutive BGS serial numbers. 6/13 proven trimmed. At least 10 sold via PWCC.

9403355 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 546/999 9.5
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1860737
9403356 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 444/999 9.5
TRIMMED: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1585298 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...999-1821549001
9403357 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 646/999 9.5
TRIMMED: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1374105 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...tic-1823447048
9403358 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 549/999 9.5
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1433778
9403359 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 539/999 9.5
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1360047
9403360 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 500/999 9.5
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1935975
9403361 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 544/999 9.5
TRIMMED: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1400858 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-rc-1820470165
9403362 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 351/999 9.5
TRIMMED: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1472205 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...vid-1820858792
9403363 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 316/999 9.5
TRIMMED: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1497090 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...vid-1822012480
9403364 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC /999 9.5
9403365 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 325/999 9.5
TRIMMED: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1846775 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-sp-1820466837
Feedback: https://web.archive.org/web/20190408...3331212&page=7
9403366 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 295/999 9.5
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1456924
9403367 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC /999 9.5

JMarchand1981 · 05-25-2019, 01:51 PM

Holy smokes

ark8085 · 05-25-2019, 01:58 PM

Nothing is safe!! Nothing!! Bob is on the chopping block!

cardsharkk · 05-25-2019, 02:28 PM

Yeah this is getting ridiculous.

cardsharkk · 05-25-2019, 02:30 PM

So theres no way for BGS to know its trimmed? I assume bc some cards are cut slightly marginally larger/smaller so they have no way of knowing?

I knew grading was a sham when a guy sold me a Mookie Chrome Gold Auto rc /50 BGS 9, he proceeded to tell me how he had two BGS 9s, and the other one the guy cracked out and it came back a 10! He was mad he thought they were undergraded that day...So I cracked it, resubbed it came back a near 10... It was BGS 9.5 with subs of 10/10/9.5/9.5. Highest gold 9.5 ever.

3124508 on COMC · 05-25-2019, 02:31 PM

Pretty good BGS sub from Block, huh? This goes on and on and on. Just a sample. PWCC sold all or almost all.

9784134 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 10
9784135 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 10
9784136 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9
9784137 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9.5
9784138 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9.5
9784139 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9.5
9784140 NO RECORD
9784141 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9.5
9784142 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9.5
9784143 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9.5
Feedback: https://web.archive.org/web/20190320...rchInterval=30
9784144 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 10
9784145 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Refractors Kris Bryant 10
9784146 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Refractors Kris Bryant Black Label
9784147 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Refractors Kris Bryant 10
9784148 2011 Topps Update Mike Trout 10
9784149 1989 Upper Deck Griffey 9.5
9784150 1989 Upper Deck Griffey 10
9784151 2000 Bowman Chrome Brady 10
9784152 1989 Score Barry Sanders 10
9784153 1996-97 Topps Chrome Refractors Kobe 10
9784154 1997-98 Topps Chrome Refractors Duncan 9.5
9784155 2007-08 Topps Chrome Refractors Durant 9.5
9784156 2003-04 Topps Chrome Lebron James 10
9784157 2003-04 Topps Chrome Lebron James 10
9784158 2003-04 Topps Chrome Lebron James 10
9784159 NO RECORD
9784160 2003-04 Topps Chrome Lebron James 10
9784161 2003-04 Topps Chrome Refractors Lebron James 9.5
9784162 2003-04 Topps Chrome Refractors Lebron James 9.5
9784163 2003-04 Topps Chrome Refractors Lebron James 9.5
9784164 NO RECORD
9784165 2002-03 Finest Lebon James 10
9784166 2003-04 Bowman Chrome Lebron James 10
9784167 2003-04 Bowman Chrome Lebron James 10
9784168 2003-04 Bowman Chrome Lebron James 10
9784169 2003-04 Bowman Chrome Lebron James 10
9784170 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784171 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784172 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784173 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784174 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784175 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784176 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784177 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784178 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784179 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784180 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784181 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG Black Label
9784182 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784183 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784184 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10
9784185 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG Black Label
9784186 2005-06 Upper Deck Sidney Crosby YG 10
9784187 2015-16 Upper Deck Ice Connor McDavid /99 10
9784188 2016-17 Upper Deck Auston Mathews YG 10
9784189 2016-17 Upper Deck Auston Mathews YG 10
9784190 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG Black Label
9784191 2016-17 Upper Deck Auston Mathews YG Black Label
9784192 2016-17 Upper Deck Auston Mathews YG Black Label
9784193 2016-17 Upper Deck Auston Mathews YG Black Label
9784194 2003-04 Ultimate Collection Lebron James AU RC 10

3124508 on COMC · 05-25-2019, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardsharkk

So theres no way for BGS to know its trimmed? I assume bc some cards are cut slightly marginally larger/smaller so they have no way of knowing?

They don't measure anything. Save maybe Brady Contenders and a select few similar cards.

cardsharkk · 05-25-2019, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

They don't measure anything. Save maybe Brady Contenders and a select few similar cards.

Oh ok thanks. But theres gotta be a way to stop this. Its ruining our hobby. I can only imagine if this keeps up for another few years how many more cards will be trimmed/ruined for huge profit

boston12 · 05-25-2019, 03:02 PM

My Bgs 9 would be prime for this guy. It was big outta the pack and wouldn’t fit in a one touch. The edges on these cards are rough in general

3124508 on COMC · 05-25-2019, 03:18 PM

Here's another. Unknown origin. Left edge.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...tic-1890338264
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1895330

3124508 on COMC · 05-25-2019, 03:21 PM

And another. Left edge.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...tic-1923619680
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1874854

3124508 on COMC · 05-25-2019, 03:30 PM

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3124508 on COMC · 05-25-2019, 03:36 PM

Left edge a bit and top edge as well. BGS 9 at one point.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...vid-1839953101

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1583755

3124508 on COMC · 05-25-2019, 03:49 PM

Top edge. Easy to see from back using lighter triangle on border.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ure-1820685926

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1453872

3124508 on COMC · 05-25-2019, 03:56 PM

Left edge trimmed. Use arm.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...vid-1821388524

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1374107

charnick · 05-25-2019, 04:03 PM

this needs to be crossposted to HI for sure. wow.

JMANIA · 05-25-2019, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardsharkk

Oh ok thanks. But theres gotta be a way to stop this. Its ruining our hobby. I can only imagine if this keeps up for another few years how many more cards will be trimmed/ruined for huge profit

He has been doing this for way more than a few years already.

pspa123 · 05-25-2019, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMANIA

He has been doing this for way more than a few years already.

It's difficult to believe major sellers to whom he consigned were not aware of his reputation, or did not become suspicious at some point.

boston12 · 05-25-2019, 05:22 PM

This card is a very difficult 9.5 or 10 “naturally” the blade upper deck cut it with must of been beat to shi....

3124508 on COMC · 05-25-2019, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charnick

this needs to be crossposted to HI for sure. wow.

Someone wanted me to make an account there, so I got as far as hitting the register button before stopping because it wanted a full name, phone number, etc, etc.

nyisle · 05-25-2019, 05:37 PM

I kind of get, the Grading company's are too busy, and all that other talk as to why and how it gets through and re-graded.

If it has never been graded, or is being re-graded by a different company, ok, grade it if nothing jumps out as, wow, this has been altered. But when a numbered card gets graded, and then regraded and regraded... and all of a sudden a 9 becomes a 10.. red flags should be flying. Not hard for them to keep a data base of the cards they grade, they already keep track of what they grade.

Pacman69 · 05-25-2019, 06:48 PM

There was a gent on this board or HI, buying up all the mcdavid spa rookies he could get at eBay or just over eBay pricing might have been a year back. I’m going to look and see if any of these cards were involved.

Absolutely no judgment at this time

Pacman

3124508 on COMC · 05-25-2019, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacman69

There was a gent on this board or HI, buying up all the mcdavid spa rookies he could get at eBay or just over eBay pricing might have been a year back. I’m going to look and see if any of these cards were involved.

Absolutely no judgment at this time

Pacman

Thanks for the tip. Familiar name was buying them up on here.

3124508 on COMC · 05-25-2019, 06:58 PM

3124508 on COMC · 05-25-2019, 07:00 PM

05-25-2019, 01:49 PM	#1
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,129	Consecutive Run of 13 Trimmed BGS 9.5 McDavid SPAs- Sold by Robert Block via PWCC See here for more info on Robert Block: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1295881 All are consecutive BGS serial numbers. 6/13 proven trimmed. At least 10 sold via PWCC. 9403355 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 546/999 9.5 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1860737 9403356 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 444/999 9.5 TRIMMED: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1585298 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...999-1821549001 9403357 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 646/999 9.5 TRIMMED: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1374105 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...tic-1823447048 9403358 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 549/999 9.5 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1433778 9403359 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 539/999 9.5 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1360047 9403360 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 500/999 9.5 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1935975 9403361 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 544/999 9.5 TRIMMED: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1400858 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-rc-1820470165 9403362 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 351/999 9.5 TRIMMED: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1472205 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...vid-1820858792 9403363 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 316/999 9.5 TRIMMED: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1497090 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...vid-1822012480 9403364 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC /999 9.5 9403365 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 325/999 9.5 TRIMMED: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1846775 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-sp-1820466837 Feedback: https://web.archive.org/web/20190408...3331212&page=7 9403366 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC 295/999 9.5 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1456924 9403367 2015-16 SP Authentic Connor McDavid AU RC /999 9.5

05-25-2019, 02:30 PM	#5
cardsharkk Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,560	So theres no way for BGS to know its trimmed? I assume bc some cards are cut slightly marginally larger/smaller so they have no way of knowing? I knew grading was a sham when a guy sold me a Mookie Chrome Gold Auto rc /50 BGS 9, he proceeded to tell me how he had two BGS 9s, and the other one the guy cracked out and it came back a 10! He was mad he thought they were undergraded that day...So I cracked it, resubbed it came back a near 10... It was BGS 9.5 with subs of 10/10/9.5/9.5. Highest gold 9.5 ever. Last edited by cardsharkk; 05-25-2019 at 02:34 PM.

05-25-2019, 03:30 PM	#12
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,129	Deleted. Last edited by 3124508 on COMC; 11-10-2021 at 04:20 AM.

05-25-2019, 04:03 PM	#16
charnick Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 2,501	this needs to be crossposted to HI for sure. wow. __________________ Team Collecting: New York, New York: Yankees, Rangers, Nets, Jets Player Collecting: Nolan Ryan, Dr. J (Nets), Trout, Darvish, Revis (Jets), Namath, Lundqvist, Gehrig, Sheldon Richardson & Jack Eichel Set Collecting: 1992 Star Pics SNL Autographs

05-25-2019, 01:51 PM	#2
JMarchand1981 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 34,441	Holy smokes

05-25-2019, 01:58 PM	#3
ark8085 Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Ct Posts: 1,978 Redic211	Nothing is safe!! Nothing!! Bob is on the chopping block!

05-25-2019, 02:28 PM	#4
cardsharkk Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,560	Yeah this is getting ridiculous.

05-25-2019, 02:31 PM	#6
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,129	Pretty good BGS sub from Block, huh? This goes on and on and on. Just a sample. PWCC sold all or almost all. 9784134 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 10 9784135 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 10 9784136 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9 9784137 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9.5 9784138 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9.5 9784139 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9.5 9784140 NO RECORD 9784141 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9.5 9784142 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9.5 9784143 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 9.5 Feedback: https://web.archive.org/web/20190320...rchInterval=30 9784144 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Kris Bryant 10 9784145 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Refractors Kris Bryant 10 9784146 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Refractors Kris Bryant Black Label 9784147 2013 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Pick Autographs Refractors Kris Bryant 10 9784148 2011 Topps Update Mike Trout 10 9784149 1989 Upper Deck Griffey 9.5 9784150 1989 Upper Deck Griffey 10 9784151 2000 Bowman Chrome Brady 10 9784152 1989 Score Barry Sanders 10 9784153 1996-97 Topps Chrome Refractors Kobe 10 9784154 1997-98 Topps Chrome Refractors Duncan 9.5 9784155 2007-08 Topps Chrome Refractors Durant 9.5 9784156 2003-04 Topps Chrome Lebron James 10 9784157 2003-04 Topps Chrome Lebron James 10 9784158 2003-04 Topps Chrome Lebron James 10 9784159 NO RECORD 9784160 2003-04 Topps Chrome Lebron James 10 9784161 2003-04 Topps Chrome Refractors Lebron James 9.5 9784162 2003-04 Topps Chrome Refractors Lebron James 9.5 9784163 2003-04 Topps Chrome Refractors Lebron James 9.5 9784164 NO RECORD 9784165 2002-03 Finest Lebon James 10 9784166 2003-04 Bowman Chrome Lebron James 10 9784167 2003-04 Bowman Chrome Lebron James 10 9784168 2003-04 Bowman Chrome Lebron James 10 9784169 2003-04 Bowman Chrome Lebron James 10 9784170 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784171 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784172 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784173 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784174 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784175 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784176 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784177 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784178 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784179 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784180 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784181 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG Black Label 9784182 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784183 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784184 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG 10 9784185 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG Black Label 9784186 2005-06 Upper Deck Sidney Crosby YG 10 9784187 2015-16 Upper Deck Ice Connor McDavid /99 10 9784188 2016-17 Upper Deck Auston Mathews YG 10 9784189 2016-17 Upper Deck Auston Mathews YG 10 9784190 2015-16 Upper Deck Connor McDavid YG Black Label 9784191 2016-17 Upper Deck Auston Mathews YG Black Label 9784192 2016-17 Upper Deck Auston Mathews YG Black Label 9784193 2016-17 Upper Deck Auston Mathews YG Black Label 9784194 2003-04 Ultimate Collection Lebron James AU RC 10

05-25-2019, 03:02 PM	#9
boston12 Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 3,282	My Bgs 9 would be prime for this guy. It was big outta the pack and wouldn’t fit in a one touch. The edges on these cards are rough in general

05-25-2019, 03:18 PM	#10
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,129	Here's another. Unknown origin. Left edge. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...tic-1890338264 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1895330

05-25-2019, 03:21 PM	#11
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,129	And another. Left edge. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...tic-1923619680 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1874854

05-25-2019, 03:36 PM	#13
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,129	Left edge a bit and top edge as well. BGS 9 at one point. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...vid-1839953101 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1583755

05-25-2019, 03:49 PM	#14
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,129	Top edge. Easy to see from back using lighter triangle on border. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ure-1820685926 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1453872

05-25-2019, 03:56 PM	#15
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,129	Left edge trimmed. Use arm. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...vid-1821388524 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1374107

05-25-2019, 05:22 PM	#19
boston12 Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 3,282	This card is a very difficult 9.5 or 10 “naturally” the blade upper deck cut it with must of been beat to shi....

05-25-2019, 05:37 PM	#21
nyisle Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,888 nyisle nyisle	I kind of get, the Grading company's are too busy, and all that other talk as to why and how it gets through and re-graded. If it has never been graded, or is being re-graded by a different company, ok, grade it if nothing jumps out as, wow, this has been altered. But when a numbered card gets graded, and then regraded and regraded... and all of a sudden a 9 becomes a 10.. red flags should be flying. Not hard for them to keep a data base of the cards they grade, they already keep track of what they grade.

05-25-2019, 06:48 PM	#22
Pacman69 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 253 Pacman!99 Pacman69	There was a gent on this board or HI, buying up all the mcdavid spa rookies he could get at eBay or just over eBay pricing might have been a year back. I’m going to look and see if any of these cards were involved. Absolutely no judgment at this time Pacman

05-25-2019, 06:58 PM	#24
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,129

05-25-2019, 07:00 PM	#25
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,129