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05-25-2019, 08:30 PM | #1 |
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Trimming on BO: Member Steven Tormollan = etheljean2014 on eBay & Proven Card Trimmer
He is, as he states, associated with psa.gems, the Kevin Burge and Keith Koenig trimming machine of years past.
After looking into him tonight, for the entirety of his duration here on BO, he has been looking for cards graded 9 or below or raw. He also frequently buys damaged cards. However, if it is too thick, he doesn't want it. Too thick to trim? Below is an example: Looking at his For Sale threads, it is evident that he is etheljean2014 on eBay. If you start running certs in the thread below, you will see that those scans have been used multiple times by etheljean2014 to sell copies of these cards on eBay: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1210354 Here are a couple examples: https://www.psacard.com/cert/28851509 https://www.psacard.com/cert/40749700 The account is located in Catonsville, Maryland, which per his Instagram page, is where he lives. The slam dunk is reason for the account name: https://www.ambrosefuneralhomes.com/...s/Ethel-Onteri etheljean2014 has been called out for the following: -Selling fake Topps Originals autos: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=801810 -Lying about selling fake Topps Originals autos: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...2&postcount=43 -Trying to pass off back-doored Flair Legacy cards: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1245140 -Being a insufferable d!ck: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1247417 -Pretending to be the 82 year-old grandmother linked above: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...1&postcount=54 Anyway, I started digging through his feedback and quickly found this: https://www.blowoutforums.com/itrade...&pp=25&page=16 Which led here: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1089656 So he bought this: And sold it via PWCC (no surprise there) as a PSA 10 after a nice trimming on the botom edge: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1577335 I wouldn't expect him to be banned though. There's still another proven trimmer and a proven patch faker who are members here. One card is all I needed to feel comfortable with posting, but I'll keep digging for a while. People need to stop editing out their sale threads after they sell cards though. Huge pain for me. |
05-25-2019, 08:33 PM | #2 |
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Defend yourself Steven... let's hear your side of the story
Great work OP!!!!! |
05-25-2019, 08:34 PM | #3 |
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Wow. Once again, nice work, with 100% proof.
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05-25-2019, 08:35 PM | #4 |
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Called him on it a few months ago, but didn't have evidence. Glad you found some.
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05-25-2019, 08:36 PM | #5 |
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is that member still active here?
horribly guilty
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05-25-2019, 08:36 PM | #6 |
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05-25-2019, 08:37 PM | #8 |
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It’s over Steven
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05-25-2019, 08:37 PM | #9 |
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05-25-2019, 08:37 PM | #11 |
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05-25-2019, 08:38 PM | #12 |
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makes sense
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05-25-2019, 08:38 PM | #13 |
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The amount of trimmed cards by him has to be a seriously high amount. There was a guy on here that claimed Tormollan was trimming, and pointed to a Google Groups forum post from the 90's.
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05-25-2019, 08:38 PM | #14 |
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which?
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05-25-2019, 08:40 PM | #15 |
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05-25-2019, 08:41 PM | #16 |
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Hoping to see that thread!
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05-25-2019, 08:43 PM | #17 |
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I guess it pretty much goes without saying, but there are some real pieces of &*^*& in this hobby...
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05-25-2019, 08:43 PM | #18 |
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Hope the trimmers get ran out of business so premiums go up. Less supply and less questionable supply!
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05-25-2019, 08:44 PM | #19 |
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The types of people I see at card shows makes me wanna vom. I’m not better than anybody, but there’s some straight up shady characters, and several missing a chromosome or two
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05-25-2019, 08:48 PM | #20 |
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This guy bought a damaged Jose Ramirez Red Topps RC from me a few months ago. Think it was a Walmart exclusive ? Wonder if he trimmed it up
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05-25-2019, 08:48 PM | #21 |
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Yeah...he bought a bunch of high-end 9s from me on eBay and noticed a few popped back up as higher grades. I never had proof, but this would explain a lot of true.
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05-25-2019, 08:50 PM | #22 |
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05-25-2019, 08:51 PM | #23 |
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I’d run serial numbers around the Benny and start looking up images.
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05-25-2019, 08:51 PM | #24 |
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05-25-2019, 08:51 PM | #25 |
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I always had a funny feeling about that guy just because of how arrogant he was in breaks and how he handled himself business-wise. Guess I was right. Amazing job by the OP. I hate shady people in this hobby.
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