ALERT: Heritage Selling Trimmed PSA 8 1916 Sporting News Jim Thorpe- ENDS TONIGHT

3124508 on COMC · 12-05-2019, 03:28 PM

Buyer beware!

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515

3124508 on COMC · 12-05-2019, 03:36 PM

I was too conservative on my line placement when showing how crooked this card was trimmed. Here's a better photo.

WallyatJCCards · 12-05-2019, 03:53 PM

yowza's, this never ends!

auburn35 · 12-05-2019, 04:58 PM

Enough time to end the auction or will Heritage go through with the sale?

HarryLime · 12-05-2019, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by auburn35

Enough time to end the auction or will Heritage go through with the sale?

3124508 on COMC · 12-05-2019, 08:35 PM

Up to $18.6k with BP. Pretty far off from the untrimmed sale in 2012.

signed79 · 12-05-2019, 08:59 PM

Heritage is also selling a TON of highly suspect 1951 Parkhurst Hockey PSA cards ending tonight...including a very obviously trimmed PSA 10.

The Chad · 12-05-2019, 09:14 PM

Werent all sporting news techinally trimmed? Arent they publication cut outs or am i thinking of something else

3124508 on COMC · 12-05-2019, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chad

Werent all sporting news techinally trimmed? Arent they publication cut outs or am i thinking of something else

They were handed out as premiums and are not Hand Cut.

The Chad · 12-05-2019, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

They were handed out as premiums and are not Hand Cut.

Gotcha

pip · 12-05-2019, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by signed79

Heritage is also selling a TON of highly suspect 1951 Parkhurst Hockey PSA cards ending tonight...including a very obviously trimmed PSA 10.

Agreed. The Adam Brown is not only tiny but has that atypical fake card doctor rough cut on the left edge that is NOT normal for 1951 Parkhurst hockey.

pip · 12-05-2019, 11:27 PM

The Jim Thorpe is a very tough card to find in top grade because of its position on the factory sheet (LL corner). I've seen one of the legit PSA 8s in person and it doesn't look at all like the other altered ones...especially not like this pathetically chopped PSA 6. As more cards of financial consequence are found to be altered, confidence in PSA will continue to decline. Eventually a breaking point will be reached where PSA will have to start being honest and employ actual skill when grading cards, or submissions will drop to levels where its business model will no longer be sustainable.

JrFinest · 12-05-2019, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pip

The Jim Thorpe is a very tough card to find in top grade because of its position on the factory sheet (LL corner). I've seen one of the legit PSA 8s in person and it doesn't look at all like the other altered ones...especially not like this pathetically chopped PSA 6. As more cards of financial consequence are found to be altered, confidence in PSA will continue to decline. Eventually a breaking point will be reached where PSA will have to start being honest and employ actual skill when grading cards, or submissions will drop to levels where its business model will no longer be sustainable.

Still a lot of Koolaid drinkers out there ,but I certainly think confidence in PSA (and graders in general) is on the decline.

pip · 12-05-2019, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chad

Werent all sporting news techinally trimmed? Arent they publication cut outs or am i thinking of something else

312 is correct. Except for several uncut sheets and a few scraps/production errors that made their way out the back door, the cards are all factory issued, quite thick (much thicker than T206s), and have a very distinctive beveled cut.

Pink Pussycat · 12-06-2019, 03:42 PM

Although Heritage let the auction run its full course, they did apparently notify the "winning" bidder of the alteration and the false grade issued by PSA.

Good to know they at least acted honorably after the fact.

12-05-2019, 03:28 PM	#1
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,392	ALERT: Heritage Selling Trimmed PSA 8 1916 Sporting News Jim Thorpe- ENDS TONIGHT Buyer beware! https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515 __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

12-05-2019, 03:36 PM	#2
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,392	I was too conservative on my line placement when showing how crooked this card was trimmed. Here's a better photo. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

12-05-2019, 03:53 PM	#3
WallyatJCCards Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Johnson Creek, WI Posts: 1,632 wallyssportscards wallyssportcards	yowza's, this never ends! __________________ 10/17/2024 - COMC 1,000+ items under 20 cents

12-05-2019, 04:58 PM	#4
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,358	Enough time to end the auction or will Heritage go through with the sale? __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

12-05-2019, 08:35 PM	#6
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,392	Up to $18.6k with BP. Pretty far off from the untrimmed sale in 2012. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

12-05-2019, 08:59 PM	#7
signed79 Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: USA Posts: 513	Heritage is also selling a TON of highly suspect 1951 Parkhurst Hockey PSA cards ending tonight...including a very obviously trimmed PSA 10.

12-05-2019, 09:14 PM	#8
The Chad Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,657	Werent all sporting news techinally trimmed? Arent they publication cut outs or am i thinking of something else __________________ Looking for: Rare Ernie Banks Allen & Ginter Cards 2014 Topps High Tek Ernie Banks Blue Dots Diffractor #/5 Follow me on Instagram: ispendtoomuchoncards

12-05-2019, 11:27 PM	#12
pip Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: French underground Posts: 4,009	The Jim Thorpe is a very tough card to find in top grade because of its position on the factory sheet (LL corner). I've seen one of the legit PSA 8s in person and it doesn't look at all like the other altered ones...especially not like this pathetically chopped PSA 6. As more cards of financial consequence are found to be altered, confidence in PSA will continue to decline. Eventually a breaking point will be reached where PSA will have to start being honest and employ actual skill when grading cards, or submissions will drop to levels where its business model will no longer be sustainable.

12-06-2019, 03:42 PM	#15
Pink Pussycat Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 595	Although Heritage let the auction run its full course, they did apparently notify the "winning" bidder of the alteration and the false grade issued by PSA. Good to know they at least acted honorably after the fact.