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![]() DAVID LAWRENCE THORN, OWNER OF SMALL TRADITIONS, LLC Trimming cards for sale through Small Traditions (smalltraditions.com), on eBay as user smalltraditions, and on consignment through Mile High Card Company, PWCC, and Heritage Auctions. ![]() First and foremost, let's review the close relationship between Small Traditions and PSA, who is responsible for authenticating, grading, and deeming unaltered all of the cards that will be showcased in this thread. Many will recall discussing this 2014 letter that Small Traditions sent to its customers regarding grade bumps from PSA: Quote:
And, in more recent times, Small Traditions serves as the sponsor of PSA's monthly Sweepstakes, where a card from Small Traditions is given away monthly if one subscribes to PSA's mailing list. Link: https://www.psacard.com/sweepstakes Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20200112...om/sweepstakes ![]() Before I continue, I'd like to preface a few things. First, this by far the most brazen and unsophisticated trimming operation I've called out to date. David frequently and repeatedly purchased, trimmed, graded, and sold altered cards in a matter of two to three months. Second, Small Traditions is not a auction house in the traditional sense. The majority of the cards in Small Tradition's auctions are owned by Dave or Small Traditions and are not consigned. In addition, the overwhelming majority of this subset of cards has been trimmed. Small Traditions likes to pretend that it has a lot of consignors, but as we will see in this thread, this is not the case. The small number of actual consignors it has are effectively used as pawns to launder altered cards through a supposedly legitimate business entity. This fraud consists of at least three intertwined schemes, which are the following: 1.) David Lawrence Thorn using his eBay ID, smalltraditions (l***i on eBay old FB, i***o on VP and eBay new FB) to purchase items on the list below to trim, grade via PSA, and sell via Small Traditions, on eBay under ID smalltraditions, and on consignment through Mile High Card Company, PWCC, and Heritage Auctions. Per my findings, these trimmed items have been graded anywhere between a PSA 3 and a PSA 10 and have had prices realized of anywhere from $10 to over $15,000. Many of the items on the following list are targeted for sale to PSA Master Set Registry Collectors. -Exhibits Cards -Postcards -Premiums (National Chicle, Goudey, etc.) -Numerically Graded Photographs/Photo Pack Cards -Team Issues -Food Issues -Derek Jeter Cards & Other Modern -Boxing, Soccer, Golf, Olympic, and Foreign Releases (1900-present) -Minor League Issues -Oddball and Regional Sets -Decals, Transfers & Tattoos -Matchbooks -Stickers -Hang Tags -Non-Standard Size Vintage Topps Inserts (Giants, Embossed, and similar) -Select Other Vintage and Pre-War Sets (1963 Fleer, 1914 Cracker Jack, 1941 Double Play, etc.) 2.) David Lawrence Thorn using his prior work experience as a creative writing teacher and as head writer at Mile High Card Company to fabricate the provenance of his trimmed items through the creation of fake "finds", fake collection breaks, and fake consignors. In actuality, these items were things he purchased individually on his smalltraditions eBay account, and in most cases, also trimmed. 3.) David Lawrence Thorn and Small Traditions engaging in bizarre shilling, market manipulation, and/or house-bidding practices. Now, as is customary, on to the trimmed cards and items. I'm only posting a select few in this OP, most of which seek to provide evidence for claims 2.) and 3.). Obviously, implicit in these cards is evidence for claim 1.). There will be many more coming in the following days and weeks. Up first we have a card in the totally fake "K-15 Koufax! Collection" that Small Traditions broke up and sold. In actuality, it is just a composition of mostly trimmed Sandy Koufax oddball cards that David purchased individually on eBay to alter. Yet, he still adversities it on his website (note that the other two collections showcased do appear to be legitimate): ![]() Here is one of the trimmed cards in the so-called "K-15 Koufax! Collection": https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...kie-1907702353 https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=37821 https://web.archive.org/web/20200106...entoryid=37821 ![]() Next is the fake San Diego 50's and 60's unused postcard find that yielded a PSA 9 and two PSA 10 1953 Dormand Bat on Shoulder Mantle postcards. Again, there was no find. Each was purchased on eBay by smalltraditions before being trimmed, graded by PSA, and sold. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...tle-1908771747 https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=37262 https://web.archive.org/web/20200106...entoryid=37262 ![]() https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...and-1919787474 https://web.archive.org/web/20200106...entoryid=38102 https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=38102 ![]() https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...eba-1909757377 https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515 ![]() Next, here's two of the trimmed cards from the fake "Yankee Clipper Collection". It's like the "K-15 Koufax! Collection" except for it being Joe DiMaggio slabs instead of Sandy Koufax ones. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...joe-1943149026 https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=40683 ![]() https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=40490 ![]() Here's a trimmed 1951 Exhibits Mantle (dozens more trimmed Exhibits cards to come) that was "proudly offered on behalf of our consignor as a part of our Cost-Free Grading program". That consignor, of course, is David Lawrence Thorn. https://web.archive.org/web/20200106...Pg=256&page=47 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...951-1908148402 https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=38108 ![]() Next on to claim 3.), which is will be something that law enforcement will have to fully untangle themselves. Below I present two instances of bizarre activity in Small Traditions auctions. First is a PSA 6 1948 American Association Babe Ruth that was purchased by smalltraditions from PWCC 2/7/2017. It was then featured as Lot #1 in the February 2017 Small Traditions auction and it ended for $1,036 on 2/26/17. However, it was then cracked out, trimmed, and regraded a PSA 6, and sold by smalltraditions on eBay on 4/9/17. The only way that timeline works out is if David Thorn won his own auction for his own card on 2/26. https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1421223 https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=31812 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...uth-1862807602 ![]() Next, here's a 1985 Merchante Campeonato Baloncesto Jordan PSA 8 that was sold by Small Traditions on 4/30/17. The card already looks small, and in my opinion is already probably trimmed. However, that wasn't good enough as the card was trimmed more and sold, still as a PSA 8, by smalltraditions on eBay on 5/31/17. I can't say whether the original PSA 8 was consigned or was Dave's card. At best, Dave was purchasing cards in his own auction to trim. At worst, he was again winning his own card to trim. https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=31935 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ael-1870336577 ![]() I'll finish up the thread with a bunch of Jeter cards trimmed by Dave and Small Traditions because I know that all this vintage is a snooze for some. ![]() https://web.archive.org/web/20200112...0&mPg=5&page=3 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...uss-1926722008 https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=40290 ![]() https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...num-1970581520 https://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-Fleer-...-/362858761112 ![]() https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...est-1965075494 https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=42982 ![]() https://web.archive.org/web/20200109...204037&page=21 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...age-1969085035 https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=45570 ![]() That's all for now, however per Small Traditions auction rules, if you purchased an altered card from them, you can return it to them and they will "work with both our customer and the grading service of the item in question to fully refund our customer and to help the grading service keep the markets for the products it grades and authenticates as clean and trusted as possible". ![]() https://web.archive.org/web/20200112...com/rules.aspx ![]() Much, much more to come. Edit 1: 22% of the PSA population of this Mickey Mantle decal is accounted for as trimmed in this post solely thanks to Small Traditions. This includes one with a value gain of almost $1,500. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...cal-1859618178 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...key-1856464902 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...cal-1859121395 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...key-1856055183 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...cal-1859641489 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...key-1862795681 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...cal-1859519853 https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=31967 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...cal-1855854191 https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=32410 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...cal-1861112788 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...key-1863817143 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...hof-1859114722 https://smalltraditions.com/LotDetai...entoryid=31407 ![]()
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wow thats thorough...
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Looks like a real upstanding character. Hope he has fun in prison.
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You sir, are doing yeoman's work! I hope there are some serious repercussions coming..
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I am always mind boggled when I read these threads.. How the hell do you piece this all together? Well done sir, well done.
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*Blatant not blatent. Not fixing that one. It's in the image.
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"Winter Premium Auction Starts Feb. 16"
You may want to reconsider that one Dave. ![]() ![]()
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I emailed this thread to small traditions.
I was just looking at their stuff in the Feb auction, forget it now. |
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Thank you for everything you are doing to expose criminal activity.
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Nice work. We might need to start a thread of large dealers and auction houses who aren't trimming their way with PSA for profits. It will be a short list.
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The list of outright thieves operating as "dealers" is growing.
Once again, fantastic detective work 312!
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Thank you for exposing this
Hopefully this guy is stopped soon Honestly I think you guys have done so much you guys should win the Pulitzer Prize for reporting for exposing this. It’s like the movie Spotlight
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put him behind the bars
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I remembered this name from somewhere.
A few years back they sold a then 2 pop PSA 10 1986 Topps Sandberg for $2400, it is (or was) a notoriously hard card. However, what struck me as odd is that it had an obvious stain on the back. Not big, but enough to knock it down to 9 imo, especially for a card that is usually scrutinized. Then I started to look into Sandberg and there were 2 more 10's in another bulk sub, but not sure who the submitter was. I think one of those looked suspect, looked like too much chipping for a 10. Then I got distracted by life, but I think I have the info saved somewhere. Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk |
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Josh (jewcer2k5) should be #1.
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A sincere Thanks for all of your efforts & hard work. It is really irritating to have cards considered MINSIZREQ by PSA when you have such blatant, trimmed cards being graded by PSA.
I had 2 MINSIZREQ that I know of in Jewcer's submissions. I measured prior to submission a 1968 Bench & a 1971 Ryan, & they were fine. Thanks again. |
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Kinda gives a new meaning to the word Small in his company name. Maybe it was ironic all along. The fake provenance is a nice touch too.
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Wow. SMH
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Wow, nice work on this one.
Would be interesting to see how the attendance records on those PSA Invitational Events, matched up with the various dealers that have been outed.
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I would like to re-iterate a point I've made, do NOT buy new lighthouse holders of cards 15+ years or older (or younger depending on hobby significance) that are highly graded (modern) or likely graded at all (vintage).
Just don't do it.
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3124- was Small Traditions given the opportunity to comment on your findings? Just curious if/how they responded. Greed is one hell of a drug. Effing trash.
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