Andy Tuttle; Marco Island, FL, Ebay: consignmints, is a CARD DOCTOR (all PSA graded)

corndog · 03-14-2020, 08:59 AM

Andrew Douglas Tuttle
Residence: Marco Island, Florida
Dealer Name: Consignmints and Consignmints.com
Ebay selling ID: consignmints
Other Ebay IDs used by Tuttle: thenatureboy-2010 (b***b on VCP); superbowlauctions2 (e***i on VCP)
Masked VCP buying ID for thenatureboy-2010: b***b (does not use consignmints ID to buy)

Ebay feedback received as a seller: over 68,000
Ebay feedback left for others (better gauge of sales): over 83,000

44 year old Andy Tuttle has been a prolific submitter of cards to PSA for grading for years. Once his buying ID was discovered, trimmed cards were easy to locate since they were mostly sold through his Ebay store consignmints. It's not known how many were sold through his website Consignmints.com. Through research as far back as 2006, consignmints has been linked to Andy Tuttle. I have found trimmed cards as far back as 2014 being sold by consignmints, also purchased with the same masked VCP ID of b***b.
Tuttle is a prolific submitter of cards to PSA and has been for years.
As with other outed card doctors, anything sold by Andy Tuttle and consignmints should be in question. He has sold over 80,000 cards through his Ebay store since 2002.

Of Note: Andy's brother, Joseph Bertee (Joe) Tuttle, is on the Anonymous PSA “Insider” Trimmer List here: http://www.sportscardradio.com/anony...-trimmer-list/

Tuttle's Online Store:

Tuttle's online store mailing address (note PO Box):

Tuttle's personal mailing address (note PO Box):

Tuttle's Ebay store:

Tuttle's feedback received as a seller:

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Trimmed Cards
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PSA Cert #41471083

PSA Set Registry: none

1967 Topps Orlando Cepeda #20

Value gain of $801.00

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID b***b (Andy Tuttle) from Ebay seller og60jb32 as a PSA 7 for $49.00 on June 05, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...0/167114/PSA/7

Same card was sold by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 9 for $850.00 on July 04, 2019.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...0/167114/PSA/9

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and bottom edges.

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PSA Cert #27234903

PSA Set Registry: private

1965 Topps Astros Rookies #16

Value gain of $399.99

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID b***b (Andy Tuttle) from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 6 for $75.01 on March 08, 2017.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999

Same card was sold by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 8 for $475.00 on June 16, 2017.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and top edges.

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PSA Cert #41722389

PSA Set Registry: n/a

1948 Bowman Paul Armstrong #13

Value gain of $958.00 (potential)

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID b***b (Andy Tuttle) from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 6 for $42.00 on August 06, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...3/102190/PSA/6

Same card is currently listed for sale by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 9 for a BIN of $1,000.00.
Ebay link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-BOWMAN...kAAOSwa3FcPwzt

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges.

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PSA Cert #41722378

PSA Set Registry: private

1966 Topps Lou Brock #125

Value gain of $961.00

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID b***b (Andy Tuttle) from Ebay seller tripleplayvintagestore as a PSA 7 for $39.00 on August 17, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...5/167886/PSA/7

Same card was sold by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 9 for $1000.00 on February 17, 2019.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...5/167886/PSA/9

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed bottom edge. No back image provided with first sale.

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PSA Cert #41471095

PSA Set Registry: none

1968 Topps Frank Robinson #500

Value gain of $231.50

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID b***b (Andy Tuttle) from Ebay seller tangointhenight15 as a PSA 6 for $18.50 on June 17, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...0/166896/PSA/6

Same card was sold by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 9 for $250.00 on November 12, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...0/166896/PSA/9

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed right edge.

Rooftop · 03-14-2020, 09:38 AM

Shocking

chezball · 03-14-2020, 10:03 AM

Really don't know how anyone can buy graded cards at this pt.

ken161 · 03-14-2020, 10:06 AM

Another day, another outed card doctor. At this point, anything in a TPG slab is suspect. Meanwhile, PSA is transitioning to digital submissions. Gotta streamline the process and get the endless supply of trimmed cards graded as quickly as possible.

Never get cheated.

pspa123 · 03-14-2020, 11:31 AM

Wasn't Andy Tuttle a PSA grader at one point?

MoreToppsPlease · 03-14-2020, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chezball

Really don't know how anyone can buy graded cards at this pt.

I also don’t know why anyone would pay more than ten bucks over raw for them.

pip · 03-14-2020, 11:42 AM

Andy Tuttle has had close associations with other card doctors for quite some time and has been caught selling altered cards as far back as 2005:

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...-young-on-ebay

corndog · 03-14-2020, 11:44 AM

PSA Cert #27851285

PSA Set Registry: none

1969 Topps Ernie Banks #20

Value gain of $215.17

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID b***b (Andy Tuttle) from Ebay seller ubidupay4it as a PSA 7 for $47.95 on June 29, 2017.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999

Same card was sold by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 9 for $263.12 on January 28, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed top edge. No back image provided with first sale.

pip · 03-14-2020, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pspa123

Wasn't Andy Tuttle a PSA grader at one point?

Yes.

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...omment_6604718

Between former PSA graders and current/former PSA Authorized dealers, one could put together a pretty comprehensive list of card molesters.

SirTommyWinAlot · 03-14-2020, 11:49 AM

He looks like such a nice guy.

patchgenie · 03-14-2020, 11:49 AM

business as usual at PSA

corndog · 03-14-2020, 11:53 AM

Tuttle just made his Ebay buying ID feedback private - thenatureboy-2010

pspa123 · 03-14-2020, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corndog

Tuttle just made his Ebay buying ID feedback private - thenatureboy-2010

That's probably worth 100 outed cards.

pip · 03-14-2020, 11:57 AM

Consignmints, according to testimony from some collectors, was also involved in the distribution of quantities of sheet-cut cards through Beckett:

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...omment_7801806

I know. Not a huge revelation but there it is.

ngs428 · 03-14-2020, 12:00 PM

Copious amounts of product in his hair.. dead giveaway...

ken161 · 03-14-2020, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pip

Yes.

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...omment_6604718

Between former PSA graders and current/former PSA Authorized dealers, one could put together a pretty comprehensive list of card molesters.

Reading some of these old threads on the PSA boards is very enlightening.

What I found most amusing is that many of the posters have since had their accounts shut down. "User banned - please carry on" logos abound on the PSA boards, including from guys with thousands of posts and over 10 years on the forum. I doubt they were trolling. Probably a little constructive criticism and the hammer fell.

Never get cheated.

corndog · 03-14-2020, 12:13 PM

As far as I can tell, consignmints is Andy Tuttle by himself.

Did his brother Joe sell under a different ID?

auburn35 · 03-14-2020, 12:52 PM

Looks like the PWCC lawyer (Jeffrey Lichtman) was talking about the Tuttle's and consignmints, back in 2009. Also provided a few possible associated eBay accounts.
https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=112668

"Looking closer at this auction, it's pretty clear to me that 'consignments' is a crooked operation."
"Tuttle (rockbottomsports, consignmints, jtcards, etc.)"
"the seller is a former PSA grader, a former auction house employee, and was at one time one of PSA's highest volume submitters."
Another ebay fraudster to avoid: "consignments."

pip · 03-14-2020, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by auburn35

Looks like the PWCC lawyer (Jeffrey Lichtman) was talking about the Tuttle's and consignmints, back in 2009. Also provided a few possible associated eBay accounts.
https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=112668

"Looking closer at this auction, it's pretty clear to me that 'consignments' is a crooked operation."
"Tuttle (rockbottomsports, consignmints, jtcards, etc.)"
"the seller is a former PSA grader, a former auction house employee, and was at one time one of PSA's highest volume submitters."
Another ebay fraudster to avoid: "consignments."

That thread and the one it links to are flush with irony. Consignmints started with selling quantities of trimmed cards in CSA holders...but that resulted in negative feedback from customers complaining about trimmed cards. That poor reputation was rehabilitated, however, when Consignmints started sending those same trimmed cards directly to PSA and getting 8s and 9s. Problem solved!

Pink Pussycat · 03-14-2020, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

I also don’t know why anyone would pay more than ten bucks over raw for them.

I would SO MUCH rather have the raw card. What a scam.

Pink Pussycat · 03-14-2020, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pip

That thread and the one it links to are flush with irony. Consignmints started with selling quantities of trimmed cards in CSA holders...but that resulted in negative feedback from customers complaining about trimmed cards. That poor reputation was rehabilitated, however, when Consignmints started sending those same trimmed cards directly to PSA and getting 8s and 9s. Problem solved!

Another PSA-linked Dealer outed. Shocker.

MoreToppsPlease · 03-14-2020, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corndog

Tuttle just made his Ebay buying ID feedback private - thenatureboy-2010

Scum!!

ScooterD · 03-14-2020, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Scum!!

Where’s the guy who kept telling us to “never forget the scum”?

Miss that guy... but his message lives on.

wcardguy · 03-14-2020, 01:57 PM

It's a bummer that eBay scrubs all their old auctions, it would be fascinating to see how the bidding went on those old items back in the day.

corndog · 03-14-2020, 02:13 PM

PSA Cert #28791411

PSA Set Registry: LStone4951's 1969 Topps Hall of Fame Set

1969 Topps A.L. Rookies #597

Value gain of $443.50

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID b***b (Andy Tuttle) from Ebay seller theninthinning as a PSA 7 for $56.50 on December 05, 2017.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999

Same card was sold by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 9 for $500.00 on April 20, 2018.
VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...ies-597/148936

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed top, left and right edges.

03-14-2020, 11:44 AM	#8
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 14,706	PSA Cert #27851285 PSA Set Registry: none 1969 Topps Ernie Banks #20 Value gain of $215.17 This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID bb (Andy Tuttle)* from Ebay seller ubidupay4it as a PSA 7 for $47.95 on June 29, 2017. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999 Same card was sold by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 9 for $263.12 on January 28, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red box identifies trimmed top edge. No back image provided with first sale. __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal. Last edited by corndog; 03-14-2020 at 03:07 PM.

03-14-2020, 12:00 PM	#15
ngs428 Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 625	Copious amounts of product in his hair.. dead giveaway... __________________ *Graded Card Scanning Guide* - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EumHbtWfBrWebafPHU4a18OgFVdzjffp/view?usp=sharing *History of the PSA Label* - https://drive.google.com/file/d/18pwAvyuhFulXk7B5IrVztvA88mbcMtsO/view?usp=sharing

03-14-2020, 12:13 PM	#17
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 14,706	As far as I can tell, consignmints is Andy Tuttle by himself. Did his brother Joe sell under a different ID? __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

03-14-2020, 12:52 PM	#18
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,936	Looks like the PWCC lawyer (Jeffrey Lichtman) was talking about the Tuttle's and consignmints, back in 2009. Also provided a few possible associated eBay accounts. https://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=112668 "Looking closer at this auction, it's pretty clear to me that 'consignments' is a crooked operation." "Tuttle (rockbottomsports, consignmints, jtcards, etc.)" "the seller is a former PSA grader, a former auction house employee, and was at one time one of PSA's highest volume submitters." Another ebay fraudster to avoid: "consignments." __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

03-14-2020, 02:13 PM	#25
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 14,706	PSA Cert #28791411 PSA Set Registry: LStone4951's 1969 Topps Hall of Fame Set 1969 Topps A.L. Rookies #597 Value gain of $443.50 This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID bb (Andy Tuttle)* from Ebay seller theninthinning as a PSA 7 for $56.50 on December 05, 2017. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999 Same card was sold by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 9 for $500.00 on April 20, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...ies-597/148936 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed top, left and right edges. __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal. Last edited by corndog; 03-14-2020 at 03:05 PM.

03-14-2020, 08:59 AM	#1
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 14,706	Andy Tuttle; Marco Island, FL, Ebay: consignmints, is a CARD DOCTOR (all PSA graded) Andrew Douglas Tuttle Residence: Marco Island, Florida Dealer Name: Consignmints and Consignmints.com Ebay selling ID: consignmints Other Ebay IDs used by Tuttle: thenatureboy-2010 (b*b on VCP); superbowlauctions2 (ei on VCP) Masked VCP buying ID for thenatureboy-2010: bb (does not use consignmints ID to buy) Ebay feedback received as a seller: over 68,000 Ebay feedback left for others (better gauge of sales): over 83,000 44 year old Andy Tuttle has been a prolific submitter of cards to PSA for grading for years. Once his buying ID was discovered, trimmed cards were easy to locate since they were mostly sold through his Ebay store consignmints. It's not known how many were sold through his website Consignmints.com. Through research as far back as 2006, consignmints has been linked to Andy Tuttle. I have found trimmed cards as far back as 2014 being sold by consignmints, also purchased with the same masked VCP ID of bb. Tuttle is a prolific submitter of cards to PSA and has been for years. As with other outed card doctors, anything sold by Andy Tuttle and consignmints should be in question. He has sold over 80,000 cards through his Ebay store since 2002. Of Note: Andy's brother, Joseph Bertee (Joe) Tuttle, is on the Anonymous PSA “Insider” Trimmer List here: http://www.sportscardradio.com/anony...-trimmer-list/* Tuttle's Online Store: Tuttle's online store mailing address (note PO Box): Tuttle's personal mailing address (note PO Box): Tuttle's Ebay store: Tuttle's feedback received as a seller: _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Trimmed Cards _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #41471083 PSA Set Registry: none 1967 Topps Orlando Cepeda #20 Value gain of $801.00 This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID bb (Andy Tuttle)* from Ebay seller og60jb32 as a PSA 7 for $49.00 on June 05, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...0/167114/PSA/7 Same card was sold by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 9 for $850.00 on July 04, 2019. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...0/167114/PSA/9 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed left and bottom edges. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #27234903 PSA Set Registry: private 1965 Topps Astros Rookies #16 Value gain of $399.99 This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID bb (Andy Tuttle)* from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 6 for $75.01 on March 08, 2017. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999 Same card was sold by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 8 for $475.00 on June 16, 2017. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...=&limit=999999 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed left and top edges. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #41722389 PSA Set Registry: n/a 1948 Bowman Paul Armstrong #13 Value gain of $958.00 (potential) This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID bb (Andy Tuttle)* from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 6 for $42.00 on August 06, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...3/102190/PSA/6 Same card is currently listed for sale by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 9 for a BIN of $1,000.00. Ebay link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-BOWMAN...kAAOSwa3FcPwzt Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #41722378 PSA Set Registry: private 1966 Topps Lou Brock #125 Value gain of $961.00 This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID bb (Andy Tuttle)* from Ebay seller tripleplayvintagestore as a PSA 7 for $39.00 on August 17, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...5/167886/PSA/7 Same card was sold by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 9 for $1000.00 on February 17, 2019. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...5/167886/PSA/9 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red box identifies trimmed bottom edge. No back image provided with first sale. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #41471095 PSA Set Registry: none 1968 Topps Frank Robinson #500 Value gain of $231.50 This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID bb (Andy Tuttle)* from Ebay seller tangointhenight15 as a PSA 6 for $18.50 on June 17, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...0/166896/PSA/6 Same card was sold by Ebay seller consignmints (Andy Tuttle) as a PSA 9 for $250.00 on November 12, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...0/166896/PSA/9 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red box identifies trimmed right edge. __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal. Last edited by corndog; 03-14-2020 at 03:06 PM.

03-14-2020, 09:38 AM	#2
Rooftop Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,118	Shocking

03-14-2020, 10:03 AM	#3
chezball Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North East Beatoff USA Posts: 21,654 jabber	Really don't know how anyone can buy graded cards at this pt.

03-14-2020, 10:06 AM	#4
ken161 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 412	Another day, another outed card doctor. At this point, anything in a TPG slab is suspect. Meanwhile, PSA is transitioning to digital submissions. Gotta streamline the process and get the endless supply of trimmed cards graded as quickly as possible. Never get cheated.

03-14-2020, 11:31 AM	#5
pspa123 Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 3,545	Wasn't Andy Tuttle a PSA grader at one point? __________________ "We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity." Opening narration, The Outer Limits. Last edited by pspa123; 03-14-2020 at 11:34 AM.

03-14-2020, 11:42 AM	#7
pip Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: French underground Posts: 4,000	Andy Tuttle has had close associations with other card doctors for quite some time and has been caught selling altered cards as far back as 2005: https://forums.collectors.com/discus...-young-on-ebay

03-14-2020, 11:49 AM	#10
SirTommyWinAlot Banned Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Gillette Stadium/Foxboro Posts: 6,545	He looks like such a nice guy.

03-14-2020, 11:49 AM	#11
patchgenie Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,022 americansportscards	business as usual at PSA

03-14-2020, 11:53 AM	#12
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 14,706	Tuttle just made his Ebay buying ID feedback private - thenatureboy-2010 __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

03-14-2020, 11:57 AM	#14
pip Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: French underground Posts: 4,000	Consignmints, according to testimony from some collectors, was also involved in the distribution of quantities of sheet-cut cards through Beckett: https://forums.collectors.com/discus...omment_7801806 I know. Not a huge revelation but there it is.

03-14-2020, 01:57 PM	#24
wcardguy Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 322	It's a bummer that eBay scrubs all their old auctions, it would be fascinating to see how the bidding went on those old items back in the day.