Worst PSA 10 ever? 1985 Topps McGwire

[possaw]

I was browsing eBay for 1985 psa 10 examples and came across this (of course PWCC):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Topps-...gAAOSwz7Nfa5Iq

Has anybody seen a worse example? Am I crazy?

[Cards and 401K]

graded a long time ago, Buy the grade and not the card?

[steadned36]

Agreed.

Guess they didn't see fit to include a description write-up.

[mcwildcats]

Originally Posted by possaw

I was browsing eBay for 1985 psa 10 examples and came across this (of course PWCC):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Topps-...gAAOSwz7Nfa5Iq

Has anybody seen a worse example? Am I crazy?

Pretty clearly trimmed, right? The top really slopes down going from left to right on the front.

[kabrune2]

Originally Posted by mcwildcats

Pretty clearly trimmed, right? The top really slopes down going from left to right on the front.

1985 Topps (and most Topps product 1990 and earlier) have been known to be cut at a slant. So it’s possibly just cut by Topps that way

[NickStam]

doesn't it look like a rodent was gnawing some of the left edge?

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by kabrune2

1985 Topps (and most Topps product 1990 and earlier) have been known to be cut at a slant. So it’s possibly just cut by Topps that way

No, it's definitely trimmed. Look at what a nominally sized 1985 Topps McGwire is supposed to look like.


This card have been discussed previously. Not sure in what thread.

[pip]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

No, it's definitely trimmed. Look at what a nominally sized 1985 Topps McGwire is supposed to look like.


This card have been discussed previously. Not sure in what thread.

Yes. Trimmed on both the top and bottom edges.

[possaw]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

No, it's definitely trimmed. Look at what a nominally sized 1985 Topps McGwire is supposed to look like.


This card have been discussed previously. Not sure in what thread.

It has? I searched but apparently I’m dumb lol.

I have a handful of these cards and they alll look better.


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[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by possaw

It has? I searched but apparently I’m dumb lol.

I have a handful of these cards and they alll look better.


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Yeah, but there's so many threads on the topic of trimmed + PSA + PWCC, that it's probably nearly impossible to find.

[possaw]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Yeah, but there's so many threads on the topic of trimmed + PSA + PWCC, that it's probably nearly impossible to find.

Somebody is going to buy the grade at some point and will take a bath. It’s just unfortunate.


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[pip]

Previous post about card: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=6392

[whoshotjr]

This is the closest one I own, pack pulled as a kid.

Mine has a slight tilt, but bottom border seems close to the same (his might be a hair better...hard to see on phone) . Mine looks like a lot more card up top and fills the slab

Overlaid as best I could with Pixlr:

[wcardguy]

Originally Posted by kabrune2

1985 Topps (and most Topps product 1990 and earlier) have been known to be cut at a slant. So it’s possibly just cut by Topps that way

Some of the 86s are practically diamond shaped.

The 85 McGwire is a legit hard card to find centered. This ... is not one of them.

[Danderlion]

Being sold by the pwcc_vault... no surprise there

[HarryLime]

That case has seen a lot of action on the front lines. Looks pretty banged up. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a swap out. I think there's close to zero percent chance that PSA gave that card a 10.

Arthur

[Shankweather]

Even if it wasn't trimmed, that centering does not deserve a 10. 70/30 top to bottom.

[Card Love]

Besides the fact that the size doesn't meet the requirements. Do you guys not notice when you zoom in to the trimmed edge that the edge texture is different and also the very very faint line where the blade meets the cardboard. If you compare the edges you can see a difference right away.

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by steadned36

Agreed.

Guess they didn't see fit to include a description write-up.

I checked a couple other Vault listings...doesn't look like they include detailed descriptions on vault listing. I did see one with 1 of 3 POP or something like that.

[possaw]

Originally Posted by pip

Previous post about card: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=6392

Thank you. Glad we are all staying vigilant on this garbage.

[pip]

Originally Posted by possaw

Thank you. Glad we are all staying vigilant on this garbage.

The long circulatory life of notoriously altered cards in TPG holders should clue in collectors to the reality that TPGs simply don't want to accept responsibility for many of their most costly and obvious errors. We live in a distorted reality where the holder and flip have more value than the card. It's institutional sophistry. No lasting change will occur until collectors start rejecting overgraded/altered sh*t and stop patronizing the known criminals and other opportunists that peddle it.