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Here is a link detailing some of Topps' sales numbers that I though was interesting:
https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...Z9Q7cU3ptJKMVU For those that don't want to click the link: Topps’ sales of trading cards and other physical elements in its Sports and Entertainment divisions were up by 101.7% in the first quarter of 2021 compared to the same period last year. While that number includes much more than baseball cards, it’s safe to say there were plenty of buyers for the company’s products. In a regulatory filing Tuesday, Topps stated that the company’s net sales for digital products also more than doubled from the year before. In all, Topps’ net sales increased by $59.3 million to a total of $166.6 million in the quarter, defined as a 13-week period that ended April 3. Those numbers moved the company to anticipate that overall net sales for 2021 will be “in the range of $740 million to $760 million, representing an increase of 31% to 34% over 2020 net sales of $567 million.” Topps’ business includes not just sports and entertainment physical and digital trading cards, but also candy products and a gift card fulfillment division. Sports and Entertainment is the bulk of the business, though, accounting for $103.1 million of the $166.6 million company total in Q1. Topps says its consolidated gross margin improved 200 basis points, to 39.4% in the first quarter of 2021, compared to 37.4% the year before. Topps is apparently selling a lot of cards and other items through its website. “The improvement mainly reflected a mix shift of net sales to e-commerce in Physical Sports & Entertainment, partially offset by higher freight costs and a mix shift to higher cost products in Confections,” the company reported.
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and why Wander gets the Call Up stamp on todays NOW
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Surprising how low their gross margins are… guess their licensing agreements must take a big bite
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always.
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How hard would it be for Topps to get the NFL or NBA back now that they will be public? Going to be really hard for them to match this years revenue with just their current properties.
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Imagine that. Topps sells a ton more cards w/ their S1 products. Who knew? Let's see...put the biggest touted prospect in years, during a giant hobby boom in our S1 product (and everything in 2022 w/ a RC logo) or jam him into our least produced flagship product thats already been sold to distributors (Update). Yeah...I Wander which will they do?
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Guessing they tried, but because the sports leagues learned having one licensee was better, it’s raised the license price to an unattractive level. More specifically, I’d bet the economics of the football and basketball licenses are dilutive to their margins. Plus much more volatile, smaller, and at an unsustainable peak right now. I’d guess Topps is mostly looking to expand its digital and direct business, and will probably not end up with NFL or NBA licenses any time soon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Will update be as bad this year as it was in ‘20??? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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It's not like Topps sales need any specific players help anyways, we will buy anything. And we do. And they know they will make a boatload on Wander through topps now |
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Even with Wander, they are going to have to get very creative, or purchase more licenses, to increase revenue next year. They certainly aren’t going to see 35%+ revenue increase without more product. |
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The number of possible impact RCs eligible for 21 Update already dwarves the list from last year. It should be at least a standard "ok" release as far as rookies go.
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They hold back hot players for series 1 all the time… this is how Bregman was in ‘17 and Devers in ‘18 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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And it’s not unethical how? Just because Topps keeps manipulating RC logos doesn’t make it right. This is why MLB/MLBPA needs to step in, and why competition would be a good thing, imagine Topps not putting an RC logo on Wander in 2021 but Upper Deck and Panini did in their 2021 releases.
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Topps indeed takes advantage of collectors and collecting to cater to the more lucrative flippers who are even easier to take advantage of.
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People need to look at the calendar. And think of the time it takes to, for example, come to an agreement with a player for autos. Then to print the cards, ship out, get back, and pack out. And also of all the product design time.
Sure, jam Wander in Update. But at the cost of no or very few RC autos in products, and with no Wander RC in basically any other product other than Update (and the occasional late-season product, there's 2 or 3 December releases for example). Do you want a world where Wander's only RC content across all products is just in Update? Do you want to repeat the Trout RC craze? |
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