Market Movers vs Card Ladder

Powell7db · 01-11-2022, 07:56 PM

Look, I know. People are going to say use 130 and terapeak. I get it. But, I'm reaching the point of my life where time = money. I currently do that for cards I own but I want to start using this data for cards to buy. I just don't think it is viable to individually search every single possible card I am interested in purchasing. I'm also a graph, numbers, and data nerd.

I've spent some time looking at both of these. Market Movers is $50 a month while Ladder is $15. Movers doesn't have a free trial and Ladder does for 7 days, which I haven't tried yet.

Does Movers offer 3x time the data to justify the price or does Ladder do what is needed? Would just like to hear opinions from both sides

KhalDrogo · 01-11-2022, 08:09 PM

Not sure what Market Movers is, but it sounds really expensive.

Card Ladder is incredible. Worth every penny.

RobTheGood · 01-11-2022, 08:10 PM

From what I understand Market Mover's has a much larger database for cards.

I tried Card Ladder for 1 month and found half my modern baseball card collection wasn't available to track.

I haven't tried Market Movers

jduds · 01-11-2022, 08:11 PM

Card Ladder is very good if you have mainly a collection of PSA key cards you want to track. It's fairly weak at other stuff. The fact that PSA bought them makes me doubt they'll flesh out their database more.

Market movers always seemed like a scam to me, but that's from their ads and price and not from using it.

k13 · 01-11-2022, 08:12 PM

I find they both lack data besides the typical cards.

Kobe101 · 01-11-2022, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Not sure what Market Movers is, but it sounds really expensive.

Card Ladder is incredible. Worth every penny.

Agreed...Card Ladder is awesome. I need to make better use of the my collection feature but I am waiting for them to add more cards. Not many KD case hits in there and a lot of my PC isn't graded. Hoping the PSA move speeds that up.

No way Market Movers is worth 3x Card Ladder.

Unless of course you get weekly card picks from an investment guru then its def worth it!

OneSickDegen · 01-11-2022, 08:41 PM

Alt /thread

Bcr · 01-11-2022, 09:10 PM

I think Market Movers shows sealed wax which is cool. I wouldn't pay for either though as I can just use the sold listings myself to determine the value

KhalDrogo · 01-11-2022, 09:19 PM

Card Ladder has a sales history feature which has historical sales from all the major auction houses. So you can find the entire sales history for any card not tracked.

Hail2TheVictors · 01-11-2022, 09:59 PM

For the love of God....STOP SUPPORTING SPORTS CARD INVESTOR.

That is all.

Topps77 · 01-11-2022, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powell7db

Look, I know. People are going to say use 130 and terapeak. I get it. But, I'm reaching the point of my life where time = money. I currently do that for cards I own but I want to start using this data for cards to buy. I just don't think it is viable to individually search every single possible card I am interested in purchasing. I'm also a graph, numbers, and data nerd.

I've spent some time looking at both of these. Market Movers is $50 a month while Ladder is $15. Movers doesn't have a free trial and Ladder does for 7 days, which I haven't tried yet.

Does Movers offer 3x time the data to justify the price or does Ladder do what is needed? Would just like to hear opinions from both sides

It should be $9.99 per month for MM

jduds · 01-11-2022, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Card Ladder has a sales history feature which has historical sales from all the major auction houses. So you can find the entire sales history for any card not tracked.

Only if it's a card that's sold at a major auction house. They are fairly useless for 98% of cards. That's not just from commons either. Just tried to do add a raw Stadium Club Bo Bichette RC to my collection as a test and they came back with an estimate of $100 based on their player index. For key cards it is useful enough, but I find it fairly useless for overall tracking. Kind of useful for organization I guess, but Excel is superior for that anyways.

VintageMustache · 01-12-2022, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jduds

Only if it's a card that's sold at a major auction house. They are fairly useless for 98% of cards. That's not just from commons either. Just tried to do add a raw Stadium Club Bo Bichette RC to my collection as a test and they came back with an estimate of $100 based on their player index. For key cards it is useful enough, but I find it fairly useless for overall tracking. Kind of useful for organization I guess, but Excel is superior for that anyways.

*Disclaimer* I’m not a user of either platform.

Slabstox just had Card Ladder on their podcast. It was an interesting 1-hour conversation. They just agreed to a partnership with each other and Card Ladder hired 5 researchers from Collectors Universe to assist them in growing their database. Like any start-up, Card Ladder is limiting their features and database. They share cool insights into the direction they are planning to go and how they plan on achieving that growth. They sound like they have their growth under control and will continue to provide useful service as they get bigger.

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jduds · 01-12-2022, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VintageMustache

*Disclaimer* I’m not a user of either platform.

Slabstox just had Card Ladder on their podcast. It was an interesting 1-hour conversation. They just agreed to a partnership with each other and Card Ladder hired 5 researchers from Collectors Universe to assist them in growing their database. Like any start-up, Card Ladder is limiting their features and database. They share cool insights into the direction they are planning to go and how they plan on achieving that growth. They sound like they have their growth under control and will continue to provide useful service as they get bigger.

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I don't doubt that they are working on it, but it's far from a complete product and a bit hard to get excited about at 15 a month.

bradical · 01-12-2022, 12:31 PM

Use the source, eBay. They’ve opened their historical pricing to everyone. Tomorrow eBay could cut of the access to pricing information for outside services and you will be left high and dry, and wasted money.

imbluestreak23 · 01-12-2022, 12:33 PM

I miss when it was as simple as ebay completed sales

boxbuster7 · 01-12-2022, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

For the love of God....STOP SUPPORTING SPORTS CARD INVESTOR.

That is all.

yeah, I mean how many threads do we need about him before people start paying attention...

bradical · 01-12-2022, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

I miss when it was as simple as ebay completed sales

It still is, no?

https://www.ebay.com/sh/research

SupermanBrandon · 01-12-2022, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

yeah, I mean how many threads do we need about him before people start paying attention...

Most people are idiots unfortunately.

On a side note...I have a rich friend that pays for CL. I just ask him to look things up when I need something.

cash4cards · 01-13-2022, 05:07 PM

I tried Market Movers for two months because I liked the aspect of the collection feature. I liked that I could also add sealed wax and if it wasn't in their database I could add it myself. The issue is as card values go up and down, you will not be able to track the value of the cards that aren't in their database though you have manually added them. You would have to do the work, look up the value and adjust it in your manual entry. Same with boxes. The biggest issue I have is that they charge a massive fee and don't even have simple high end cards in their database of the top guys in certain sports. (Disclaimer: I cancelled Market Movers Dec. 28th) As an example, I was being charged for a product that as of December wasn't tracking Justin Herbert or Joe Burrow contenders rc ticket autos. If they aren't going to track either of the two highest profile RCs from the last two years in one of the top 3 products then honestly I have no use for their services. They also didn't track Contenders optic either.

ThoseBackPages · 01-13-2022, 05:08 PM

buy none, or buy both

GMRide27 · 01-13-2022, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

For the love of God....STOP SUPPORTING SPORTS CARD INVESTOR.

That is all.

This.

goin3d · 01-13-2022, 11:38 PM

I’ve used both and am currently on market movers. I love some of the features of card ladder, but many more of my cards were available in mm, plus I use a lot of the ratio/grade comparison tools.

01-11-2022, 07:56 PM	#1
Powell7db Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,969	Market Movers vs Card Ladder Look, I know. People are going to say use 130 and terapeak. I get it. But, I'm reaching the point of my life where time = money. I currently do that for cards I own but I want to start using this data for cards to buy. I just don't think it is viable to individually search every single possible card I am interested in purchasing. I'm also a graph, numbers, and data nerd. I've spent some time looking at both of these. Market Movers is $50 a month while Ladder is $15. Movers doesn't have a free trial and Ladder does for 7 days, which I haven't tried yet. Does Movers offer 3x time the data to justify the price or does Ladder do what is needed? Would just like to hear opinions from both sides

01-11-2022, 08:09 PM	#2
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,455	Not sure what Market Movers is, but it sounds really expensive. Card Ladder is incredible. Worth every penny. __________________ I love PSA!

01-11-2022, 09:19 PM	#9
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,455	Card Ladder has a sales history feature which has historical sales from all the major auction houses. So you can find the entire sales history for any card not tracked. __________________ I love PSA!

01-12-2022, 12:31 PM	#15
bradical Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,412	Use the source, eBay. They’ve opened their historical pricing to everyone. Tomorrow eBay could cut of the access to pricing information for outside services and you will be left high and dry, and wasted money. __________________ :turkey: :turkey: :turkey:

01-12-2022, 12:33 PM	#16
imbluestreak23 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out Posts: 18,052 shortslabs	I miss when it was as simple as ebay completed sales __________________ @shortslabs I'VE WITNESSED HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE HERE...IT'S ROTTEN https://www.youtube.com/c/TylerShort

01-11-2022, 08:10 PM	#3
RobTheGood Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 219	From what I understand Market Mover's has a much larger database for cards. I tried Card Ladder for 1 month and found half my modern baseball card collection wasn't available to track. I haven't tried Market Movers

01-11-2022, 08:11 PM	#4
jduds Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 3,836 chilaw57	Card Ladder is very good if you have mainly a collection of PSA key cards you want to track. It's fairly weak at other stuff. The fact that PSA bought them makes me doubt they'll flesh out their database more. Market movers always seemed like a scam to me, but that's from their ads and price and not from using it.

01-11-2022, 08:12 PM	#5
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	I find they both lack data besides the typical cards.

01-11-2022, 08:41 PM	#7
OneSickDegen Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: KCMO -> LV Posts: 1,467	Alt /thread

01-11-2022, 09:10 PM	#8
Bcr Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 2,784	I think Market Movers shows sealed wax which is cool. I wouldn't pay for either though as I can just use the sold listings myself to determine the value

01-11-2022, 09:59 PM	#10
Hail2TheVictors Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,502	For the love of God....STOP SUPPORTING SPORTS CARD INVESTOR. That is all.

01-13-2022, 05:07 PM	#20
cash4cards Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Terre Haute, Indiana Posts: 406 throckmj2004	I tried Market Movers for two months because I liked the aspect of the collection feature. I liked that I could also add sealed wax and if it wasn't in their database I could add it myself. The issue is as card values go up and down, you will not be able to track the value of the cards that aren't in their database though you have manually added them. You would have to do the work, look up the value and adjust it in your manual entry. Same with boxes. The biggest issue I have is that they charge a massive fee and don't even have simple high end cards in their database of the top guys in certain sports. (Disclaimer: I cancelled Market Movers Dec. 28th) As an example, I was being charged for a product that as of December wasn't tracking Justin Herbert or Joe Burrow contenders rc ticket autos. If they aren't going to track either of the two highest profile RCs from the last two years in one of the top 3 products then honestly I have no use for their services. They also didn't track Contenders optic either.

01-13-2022, 05:08 PM	#21
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,799 ThoseBackPages	buy none, or buy both __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

01-13-2022, 11:38 PM	#23
goin3d Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 246 cardboard_heros	I’ve used both and am currently on market movers. I love some of the features of card ladder, but many more of my cards were available in mm, plus I use a lot of the ratio/grade comparison tools.