2022 Upper Deck Marvel The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

[BobCollects]

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Introducing trading cards from the acclaimed original series on Disney+, Marvel Studios’ The Falcon and the Winter Soldier! Discover actor autographs, technology cards, and sketch cards!

Collect the 90 Card Marvel Studios’ The Falcon and the Winter Soldier Base Set. Discover a wide array of Parallels!

Falcon Red and Winter Soldier Blue Parallels!
Numbered Patterned Foilboard Black and Red, Purple Zemo, and Patriotic Parallels!

Thematic Inserts
Who will wield the Shield?

Behind the Scenes Character Profiles Mission Briefing
Technology Cards
Manufactured Film Cel Cards
Look for Single and Dual Autographed versions!
Forged Vibranium Metal cards
Look for Single and Dual designs and Numbered Autographed versions!
The Power to do Better and Villainous Measures Transparent Acetate Cards

Actor Autograph Cards!
Look for a wide variety of Single and Dual Actor autograph cards!
Signers include: Anthony Mackie, Sebastian Stan, Don Cheadle, Emily VanCamp, Erin Kellyman, Florence Kasumba, Georges St-Pierre, Danny Ramirez, and more!

1-of-1 Original Art Sketch Cards!

Look for 1 Serial numbered Parallel and 2 Cards from the following:

Manufactured Film Cel Card, 1 of 1 Printing Plate, Autograph Card, Original Art Sketch Card, Forged Vibranium Metal Card, The Power to do Better, or Villanous Measures Acetate Card per box on average. Case hits include:

Manufactured Film Cel Dual Autographs - #’d to 15
Forged Vibranium Tier 2 Autographs - #’d to 25
Dual Autographs – #’d to 25
Patriotic Base Parallel Cards - #’d to 25
1 of 1 Printing Plates and Sketch Cards

Thoughts? Will there be high demand for this set? Looks like all the big name stars are signing although I watched it so long ago I don’t remember every character.


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[newhobbygeek]

Originally Posted by BobCollects

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Thoughts? Will there be high demand for this set? Looks like all the big name stars are signing although I watched it so long ago I don’t remember every character.


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awesome! I'm so happy to see all these get full sets vs lackluster Black Widow movie epack set. Plenty great signers.

I've been managing my own expectations. I don't see UD catching up to MCU movie/TV releases unless UD starts releasing two or more Marvel sets in single month. Allure hasn't even dropped a checklist or firm release date... that is old Phase 1-3 which we have had tons of sets for already.

The big thing I'm missing from these Phase 4 sets are costume relics. I know Upper Deck already talked about this in the MCC Podcast, but still I'm hopefully to see some pop up in future sets.

[ftwjedi]

Originally Posted by newhobbygeek

awesome! I'm so happy to see all these get full sets vs lackluster Black Widow movie epack set. Plenty great signers.



I've been managing my own expectations. I don't see UD catching up to MCU movie/TV releases unless UD starts releasing two or more Marvel sets in single month. Allure hasn't even dropped a checklist or firm release date... that is old Phase 1-3 which we have had tons of sets for already.



The big thing I'm missing from these Phase 4 sets are costume relics. I know Upper Deck already talked about this in the MCC Podcast, but still I'm hopefully to see some pop up in future sets.

Costume relics are my favorite from the mcu sets, what did they say on the podcast regarding relic cards?

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[newhobbygeek]

Originally Posted by ftwjedi

Costume relics are my favorite from the mcu sets, what did they say on the podcast regarding relic cards?

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I enjoy costume relics a lot too. Please listen to the MCC podcast. Below is just my opinion and based on limited card collecting experience, 4 years. I would like to hear peoples thought on costume relics 10 years ago.

Marvel Card Collector Podcast Episode 134 please jump to 1h:10m:30s -ish. I would recommend listening to the whole podcast. The MCC podcasts with Grant or Travis(recent episode 124) from UD are great. I'm not a podcast person, but I enjoy these. I like hearing directly from UD about product development and future releases. I would just say manage expectations, because things can always change especially in today's economy.

My opinion on what UD said in the podcast is movie costume relics aren't cost effective anymore. UD is trying to build value in products for collectors. UD appears to be looking at technology cards as alternatives(platinum portraits, PMGs, diamond cards, parallels, etc.). Simply put MCU movie costumes cost UD a lot more in 2020s than they did in say 2010s. Collectors don't value costume relics and UD referenced the secondary market sales of MCU movie costume cards in previous sets. I think UD is trying to communicate they don't want to spend money on making cards that don't add value to their product or help drive sales.

I'm inclined to agree with UD from business decision. The collector in me is very disappointed. I don't think a lot of collectors value the movie costume relics. However, I think UD makes some unequal comparisons during the podcast. They mention Elizabeth Olsen diamond relics(/23) and Tom Holland base cards(/149 and /125) from Marvel Black Diamond and compare them to the Marvel Black Diamond autos. I'm okay with UD comparing these MBD cards to each other. However, I don't think comparing Thor Dark World or Black Panther movie relic cards to MBD is fair. Ian(podcast host) did push how values have gone up on costume relics. In the past month, I have bought some cheap $2,$3,$5 movie relics on COMC, some in the $20 range and few in the $75-125 range. The prices seem to be driven by character/actor and scarcity.

I don't understand why UD is comparing some costume cards that are $3 but they produced 500-1000+ copies to cards with 23 copies. If you compare some of these MBD cards the overall quality, foil, eye appeal far exceeds most movie relic cards. Movie relic cards often lack foiling and appear flat to me, but Upper Deck could make them look nice. The only attempt I see from Upper Deck to make older Movie relic cards look appealing is to use letters in the cut outs: 'THOR' 'ANT' 'CACW' 'AAOU' etc. The MBD Shard relics look awesome and use same costume material from older sets. The MCU10 Eclectic Collection is a great diverse movie relic set too, but the card quality is very poor. The backs usually have indents and fronts are flat.

I could rant about movie relics for a while, but I've gone long enough. I don't know which MCC podcast episode it was, but UD did talk about sketch cards in similar light. I'm expecting in the future some sets to have tougher sketch card odds or maybe lack them completely, why?? To drive value up in sketch cards and stop overproducing sketch cards. UD doesn't want $3-5 movie relics or $10-15 sketches. They want $1200+ cards that are probably cheaper and easier for them to develop. This last sentence makes a lot of business sense, so I can understand why UD might be moving away from movie costume relics. Look at all money UD just made from Metal sets, because they added some foiling + 3 words. I wouldn't be shocked to see a MCU Metal set in the future with zero or minimum autos/sketches/movie relics.

I'm still hopeful in the future some movies or shows will include costume relics. The infinity stone themed cards in a couple sets are awesome. It aligns well with Phase 1-3 theme, but going into future UD will need to find other themes from Phase 4-6 to influence card design.

[TheDude1138]

Being a 30 year collector (8 years in sports and 22 in non-sports) the basic problems with relic/jersey/costume/piecework/whatever cards are as follows.

Confusing descriptions on where the item actually came from. In sports it was always funny to read either game used or game worn. I remember seeing footage of players changing out into several jersey's while standing on the sidelines so it could be labeled game worn. Non-Sports stuff has the same problem, was the item actually worn or used in the film or was it just extra, unused stuff made for the film?

No matter what description the manufacturer places on the card there is absolutely no way to verify or authenticate it. Relic type items must retain their history, evidence and chain of custody to maintain value.

As a whole, the item has a much better chance of being authenticated. The card process is to intentionally destroy the whole and then turn a wrecked product into a collectible. Supposedly Topps cut up an Elvis worn leather jacket to make the American Pie set. Difficult to believe and if it's true somewhat of a tragedy.

My chase cards of choice have always been autograph and sketch related. I have never chased a relic card but due to collecting collateral damage I have quite a few of them. One day I will get them listed and posted up for sale. If for nothing else to thin out the collection.

[Rictor]

Relic cards are always a disappointment to me as a box hit. Of course, Upper Deck manufactured film cels, vibranium, and serial numbered cards are crap box hits as well.

I don't see how Upper Deck can complain about the cost of making sets right now though. They're charging $40/pack for sets like Spider-Man Metal where half of each pack is digital. They've cut out the distributor and retail, so they're pocketing almost 100% of each sale. They pay almost nothing for sketch cards and slapping a serial number on a card is basically free.

[BobCollects]

A Blowout competitor has pre-orders up. Boxes are $199.95 (same as WandaVision) and 12-box cases are $2,374.95. Not a bad price for a Marvel box but paying that and getting a manufactured film cel and an acetate card as box hits won't be fun.

[ftwjedi]

As a MCU relic card collector, here's my main gripes...
First, they should really focus on single/individual relic cards like UD was doing before the first Avengers film or how rittenhouse did it with the first Iron Man film.
With that being said, if you're going to do a dual or triple, make them numbered and a little more limited than single relics. Also, make combinations that make sense, are desirable and not just every combination of your single relics.
One my biggest wants are multiple relic booklets. Imagine having Iron Man, Cap, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye, Widow, Fury, etc. relic(s) all in one booklet. The Ant-Man 2 multiple mini swatch card was brilliant. Or even Individual large relic+auto combo booklets.
Some sets were way too flooded with relics. They don't have to make them extremely limited, but maybe numbering them to say a thousand or a couple thousand would garner more interest.
Design. Please use large movie images. The Black Panther relic set was an eyesore.
And yes, stating if it was actually screen used or actor worn would drive desire and value.

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[glen87]

Originally Posted by TheDude1138

Being a 30 year collector (8 years in sports and 22 in non-sports) the basic problems with relic/jersey/costume/piecework/whatever cards are as follows.

Confusing descriptions on where the item actually came from. In sports it was always funny to read either game used or game worn. I remember seeing footage of players changing out into several jersey's while standing on the sidelines so it could be labeled game worn. Non-Sports stuff has the same problem, was the item actually worn or used in the film or was it just extra, unused stuff made for the film?

No matter what description the manufacturer places on the card there is absolutely no way to verify or authenticate it. Relic type items must retain their history, evidence and chain of custody to maintain value.

As a whole, the item has a much better chance of being authenticated. The card process is to intentionally destroy the whole and then turn a wrecked product into a collectible. Supposedly Topps cut up an Elvis worn leather jacket to make the American Pie set. Difficult to believe and if it's true somewhat of a tragedy.

My chase cards of choice have always been autograph and sketch related. I have never chased a relic card but due to collecting collateral damage I have quite a few of them. One day I will get them listed and posted up for sale. If for nothing else to thin out the collection.

and don't forget the (n)ever popular "material used to create." so not even from a standby costume, just random left over fabric....

[glorbgorb]

Originally Posted by glen87

and don't forget the (n)ever popular "material used to create." so not even from a standby costume, just random left over fabric....

Topps does that with SW, too. I think the general consensus was it was from the bolts of fabric they keep for repairs, duplicate costumes, etc. They included some pieces with a couple of their nicer books (Dressing the Galaxy, maybe?) as well. Heck, maybe Topps bought a bunch of those books and used it. Who knows.

[daviswr7]

looks like release date has been updated to 1/18. looking forward to this set.

[newhobbygeek]

Originally Posted by daviswr7

looks like release date has been updated to 1/18. looking forward to this set.

It would be great to see Wandavison and Falcon & Winter Soldier release in Jan/Feb. Where did you see the update?

[Brobocop]

Cool design but as always, the sticker auto kills it for me. $150 a box now, I could see that slipping a bit. Might try a box or two if it gets closer to $100.

[glorbgorb]

It feels like a lifetime ago that I binged this on Disney+. (A quick google search confirms this first released on streaming nearly two-years ago!) With the way UD releases these so long after the properties have aired, I simply have lost interest. If there were a Julia Louis-Dreyfus, maybe, but everyone else we've seen before.

I'm surprised they just don't do all these show-related releases on ePack, to be honest.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by glorbgorb

If there were a Julia Louis-Dreyfus, maybe, but everyone else we've seen before.

Is there a checklist somewhere? There are plenty of actors in this series that haven't signed before: Anthony Mackie (title character!), Wyatt Russell, Daniel Bruhl... there's certainly potential.

[glorbgorb]

Originally Posted by dd316

Is there a checklist somewhere? There are plenty of actors in this series that haven't signed before: Anthony Mackie (title character!), Wyatt Russell, Daniel Bruhl... there's certainly potential.

Oops, you're right about Mackie, I thought he had signed before.

No checklist yet (it's always a week or two prior to actually hitting the shelves), but I just assume if someone like Louis-Dreyfus were signing it would have been on the sell sheets/marketing material.

[drcanada]

Originally Posted by glorbgorb

Oops, you're right about Mackie, I thought he had signed before.

No checklist yet (it's always a week or two prior to actually hitting the shelves), but I just assume if someone like Louis-Dreyfus were signing it would have been on the sell sheets/marketing material.

Mackie signed in Black Diamond.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by drcanada

Mackie signed in Black Diamond.

You are correct!

[newhobbygeek]

This set was just posted on Upper Deck Entertainment's social media pages as Coming Soon. This probably means Falcon & Winter Soldier is next Marvel MCU set.

[mmbtvs]

Originally Posted by newhobbygeek

This set was just posted on Upper Deck Entertainment's social media pages as Coming Soon. This probably means Falcon & Winter Soldier is next Marvel MCU set.

I saw a comment on Instagram that confirmed it as a February release.

[BobCollects]

Beckett has a full checklist available:

https://www.beckett.com/news/2022-up...trading-cards/

It shows blaster odds for select insets and a blaster-exclusive yellow parallel. The release date is February 15.


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[hannahs1]

Auto checklist looks good

[newhobbygeek]

Originally Posted by BobCollects

Beckett has a full checklist available:

https://www.beckett.com/news/2022-up...trading-cards/

It shows blaster odds for select insets and a blaster-exclusive yellow parallel. The release date is February 15.


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Thanks for sharing!!! Looks like UD posted example cards now on their socials. Still tough price, but just awesome to see sets finally coming out!! Woohoo!

[mmbtvs]

Even though I didn't love the show, the autograph checklist on this makes me interested in trying some.

[BobCollects]

Overpriced blaster boxes are available at Target.com:

https://www.target.com/p/upper-deck-...x/-/A-87880458


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