Mickey Mantle 1952 Topps card lands a CSG 8

BlowoutBuzz · 10-18-2022, 11:26 AM

Pretty solid card.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_McshAcV50

miscus555 · 10-18-2022, 03:34 PM

Why would they use CSG before any of the others? Odd

discodanman45 · 10-18-2022, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by miscus555

Why would they use CSG before any of the others? Odd

Most likely an investor of the company graded this or crossed it over from another label for publicity. Doubt this was anyone not connected to CCG in some way.

BlowoutBuzz · 10-18-2022, 03:43 PM

No idea but it is what it is. I'm a non-selling grader at moment so I am very fine with CSG for the time, look and cost.

corndog · 10-19-2022, 04:28 AM

I like that he explained the differences between type 1 and type 2 1952 Mantles.

ThoseBackPages · 10-19-2022, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by miscus555

Why would they use CSG before any of the others? Odd

i would have gone with PSA first personally, but CSG is a good #2

PunsRTonsOfFun · 10-19-2022, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by corndog

I like that he explained the differences between type 1 and type 2 1952 Mantles.

Agreed...and I think it's cool CSG will differentiate the two on its slab.

discodanman45 · 10-19-2022, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i would have gone with PSA first personally, but CSG is a good #2

I am one of the few people here that grades vintage with CSG. My experience has been ok, but they are definitely a bit relaxed with the upper grades with pre-1980 cards. I think this card was graded accurately with SGC/PSA current standards because people would give them a hard time if it wasn't. I have gotten a few 8's, even a 8.5, from the 1960's with CSG. I don't have an issue with any of these cards, they all deserve it. Where they have issues in my opinion is with the 5.5 to 7.5 grades. They allow murder with corners on those cards if the card is well-centered with a great surface. Grades 1 through 5 are very fair as well, even tougher than PSA/SGC with surface issues. Below are two of my cards that I believe were over graded. The awesome thing about CSG though, is that the transparency is there with the images. Zoom in to your hearts content to judge for the card yourself.

https://www.csgcards.com/certlookup/1027907026/
https://www.csgcards.com/certlookup/1027907013/

imbluestreak23 · 10-19-2022, 12:07 PM

Beautiful card!

CardFarmer · 10-19-2022, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by miscus555

Why would they use CSG before any of the others? Odd

I'm guessing the card has something wrong with it. Altered, pressed, trimmed, etc.

mnvikingstwins · 10-19-2022, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CardFarmer

I'm guessing the card has something wrong with it. Altered, pressed, trimmed, etc.

And was likely already returned not graded by psa

ReggieBush22 · 10-19-2022, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CardFarmer

I'm guessing the card has something wrong with it. Altered, pressed, trimmed, etc.

This. Or as someone said, the person who submitted this has sone financial interest in CSG.

I've never used CSG but i am not going to give my stamp of approval until i know without a shadow of a doubt these guys are legit and know their stuff. Reps take years to establish IMO.

Financially, it makes no sense to submit this to CSG. As someone also mentioned, probably a PSA/SGC reject.

gmarutiak · 10-19-2022, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i would have gone with PSA first personally, but CSG is a good #2

I think we can all agree, there's not much better than a good #2!

KhalDrogo · 10-19-2022, 01:10 PM

If you are keeping the card, who cares where you submit it.

If you are selling the card, you’re sending it to the company who you think will help you generate the best return.

DaveedTO · 10-19-2022, 01:29 PM

Same card??

https://www.psacard.com/cert/46751783

KhalDrogo · 10-19-2022, 01:46 PM

Absolutely the same. Great catch.

Sold for $705k at Heritage in August.

gmarutiak · 10-19-2022, 01:49 PM

I guess that eliminates the "PSA refused to grade it" theory.

TarjetasBéisbol · 10-19-2022, 02:11 PM

One day I would love to own this card!!

discodanman45 · 10-19-2022, 02:19 PM

Great find! That card was probably bought for the sole purpose of CSG marketing. Now who was responsible for buying the card? Rubin and fanatics, Jaz Z's Roc Nation, or someone else involved in the purchase of CCG.

90skid · 10-19-2022, 03:54 PM

I never knew about "Type 1" and "Type 2" - I assume PSA doesn't care about that? Is there any preference for buyers to which is preferred or it doesn't really matter?

Well produced video I thought, they did a good job explaining and presenting.

mjohnatgt · 10-19-2022, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 90skid

I never knew about "Type 1" and "Type 2" - I assume PSA doesn't care about that? Is there any preference for buyers to which is preferred or it doesn't really matter?

PSA doesn't list many things on their label. This is one of them.

I think most would prefer the one with the solid box around the Yankees logo and the sharper edges around the star box.

CaptSpaulding · 10-21-2022, 11:32 AM

Great looking card but NM-MT is a stretch, imo, for this card. PSA had it right at NM+. The lower left corner is rounded and there is slight rounding to the lower right corner.

The_Reverend · 10-22-2022, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BlowoutBuzz

No idea but it is what it is. I'm a non-selling grader at moment so I am very fine with CSG for the time, look and cost.

As am I. CSG is a quality grading company and I have used them all. Vintage will always look better in a SGC slab, but if you want a slab that is updated and crystal clear, CSG is #1 of the big 4 and it is not even close.

YeahBuddy · 10-24-2022, 04:12 PM

grading company fan boys are the like the early xbox/playstation fan boy wars.

CSG still rising!

TawkCards · 10-24-2022, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Reverend

As am I. CSG is a quality grading company and I have used them all. Vintage will always look better in a SGC slab, but if you want a slab that is updated and crystal clear, CSG is #1 of the big 4 and it is not even close.

yeah when I buy a card from CSG the grade always matches the card. If I see CSG slabs on ebay I just look at the grade and don't even use the zoom feature.

With PSA you have to carefully look at every piece of the card because a PSA 10 can arrive looking like a PSA 8 pretty easily. I buy CSG graded cards without even seeing the back photo. I would never consider buying a PSA card without the back photo.

I also think CSG has the best slabs on the market.

10-18-2022, 03:43 PM	#4
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10-19-2022, 04:28 AM	#5
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 17,782	I like that he explained the differences between type 1 and type 2 1952 Mantles. __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

10-19-2022, 12:07 PM	#9
imbluestreak23 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out Posts: 17,695 shortslabs	Beautiful card! __________________ @shortslabs I'VE WITNESSED HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE HERE...IT'S ROTTEN https://www.youtube.com/c/TylerShort

10-19-2022, 01:10 PM	#14
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,153	If you are keeping the card, who cares where you submit it. If you are selling the card, you’re sending it to the company who you think will help you generate the best return. __________________ I love PSA!

10-19-2022, 01:29 PM	#15
DaveedTO Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 321	Same card?? https://www.psacard.com/cert/46751783 Attached Thumbnails

10-18-2022, 11:26 AM	#1
BlowoutBuzz Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 13,923	Mickey Mantle 1952 Topps card lands a CSG 8 Pretty solid card. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_McshAcV50 __________________ www.blowoutbuzz.com >>><<< Got something cool or interesting that might be worth a story? Know someone whose collection could be profiled? Send me a DM.

10-18-2022, 03:34 PM	#2
miscus555 Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 664	Why would they use CSG before any of the others? Odd

10-19-2022, 01:46 PM	#16
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,153	Absolutely the same. Great catch. Sold for $705k at Heritage in August. __________________ I love PSA! Last edited by KhalDrogo; 10-19-2022 at 01:48 PM.

10-19-2022, 01:49 PM	#17
gmarutiak Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Baltimore, MD (but Pittsburgh in my heart!) Posts: 3,136	I guess that eliminates the "PSA refused to grade it" theory.

10-19-2022, 02:11 PM	#18
TarjetasBéisbol Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NOVA Posts: 10,891	One day I would love to own this card!! __________________ De oppresso liber - RLTW "The Mexicans taught me that trick", "Let me be very clear, crystal clear"

10-19-2022, 02:19 PM	#19
discodanman45 Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: CA Posts: 9,714 danch27	Great find! That card was probably bought for the sole purpose of CSG marketing. Now who was responsible for buying the card? Rubin and fanatics, Jaz Z's Roc Nation, or someone else involved in the purchase of CCG. __________________ Updating my entire collection on Card Ladder. Lots to go... https://www.cardladder.com/showcase/IOBB7AY2qTVVKSgU9Aqj02kfF4I3

10-19-2022, 03:54 PM	#20
90skid Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,817	I never knew about "Type 1" and "Type 2" - I assume PSA doesn't care about that? Is there any preference for buyers to which is preferred or it doesn't really matter? Well produced video I thought, they did a good job explaining and presenting.

10-21-2022, 11:32 AM	#22
CaptSpaulding Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,444	Great looking card but NM-MT is a stretch, imo, for this card. PSA had it right at NM+. The lower left corner is rounded and there is slight rounding to the lower right corner.

10-24-2022, 04:12 PM	#24
YeahBuddy Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 960	grading company fan boys are the like the early xbox/playstation fan boy wars. CSG still rising!