MVP Robbery!!

SaveMeTheGum · 09-26-2025, 03:05 PM

The Judge/Raleigh thread has me thinking about years where the MVP made no sense at all. Use this thread to post MVP years where someone got completely robbed!

I'll go first:

1970 -- Yaz finished 4th in the MVP voting behind the other 3 guys on this list (Boog Powell won it). He only received 2x first place votes! He led the league in Runs, OBP, SLG, OBP, WAR and lost the batting title by .0003

JohnnyHatesJazz · 09-26-2025, 03:12 PM

David Ortiz when he hit 54 homers. Finished 3rd behind Derek jeter who had 14 homers.

Remember, the goal posts always move depending on who the players are.

Nostalgia · 09-26-2025, 03:13 PM

Albert Belle to Mo Vaughn

Babe Ruth only won 1 because the rule back then was you werent allowed to win more than 1.

SaveMeTheGum · 09-26-2025, 03:20 PM

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David Ortiz when he hit 54 homers. Finished 3rd behind Derek jeter who had 14 homers.

Remember, the goal posts always move depending on who the players are.

The person who deserved it the least on this list got it...

asujbl · 09-26-2025, 03:28 PM

Albert Belle
Albert Belle
Albert Belle

And then Albert Belle again

Those are the Mount Rushmore

JohnnyHatesJazz · 09-26-2025, 03:29 PM

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The person who deserved it the least on this list got it...

Writers shouldn’t be voting for MVP. That’s what I get from this.

Nostalgia · 09-26-2025, 03:31 PM

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Nostalgia · 09-26-2025, 03:31 PM

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Oh and the Indians won 100 games, while the red Sox won 86

SaveMeTheGum · 09-26-2025, 03:36 PM

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That was the year he had 50 doubles and 50 HR back when 50 HR was still a big deal. As a Sox fan i didn't mind it, but yeah, that's brutal.

atk825 · 09-26-2025, 03:36 PM

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Oh and the Indians won 100 games, while the red Sox won 86

In a 144 game season.

Nostalgia · 09-26-2025, 03:38 PM

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That was the year he had 50 doubles and 50 HR back when 50 HR was still a big deal. As a Sox fan i didn't mind it, but yeah, that's brutal.

I believe hes the only player EVER to accomplish this.

SaveMeTheGum · 09-26-2025, 03:42 PM

Here's another Cleveland robbery. Manny had a much better argument to win in 1999 than Judge has over Raleigh this year...

NaylorVahjeinke · 09-26-2025, 03:49 PM

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Albert Belle to Mo Vaughn

Yup, exactly what came to mind. Like Mo Vaughn, but Belle was robbed so bad there should be an asterisk.

JohnnyHatesJazz · 09-26-2025, 03:53 PM

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Yup, exactly what came to mind. Like Mo Vaughn, but Belle was robbed so bad there should be an asterisk.

I think he had that off field issue by then that had soured people against him. If I remember correctly it was related to Halloween.

seanrs1 · 09-26-2025, 03:57 PM

1987 George Bell MVP

Alan Trammel was robbed

here2havefun · 09-26-2025, 03:59 PM

Ted Williams got screwed a few times. 1947 he had the triple crown, but the Yankees were a good team so Joe D wins.

Nostalgia · 09-26-2025, 04:06 PM

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Ted Williams got screwed a few times. 1947 he had the triple crown, but the Yankees were a good team so Joe D wins.

NUTS!!

Nostalgia · 09-26-2025, 04:08 PM

1941 as well.

At least in 1941 you can argue the 56 game hitting streak.

But damn!

Handsome Wes · 09-26-2025, 04:13 PM

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Here's another Cleveland robbery. Manny had a much better argument to win in 1999 than Judge has over Raleigh this year...

1999 Pedro Martinez should have won the MVP award. His WAR was 9.8 versus Pudge's 6.4, he won the pitching Triple Crown. Pedro had the most first place votes. He narrowly lost BECAUSE TWO VOTERS LEFT HIM OFF THE LIST COMPLETELY.

tjforce · 09-26-2025, 04:14 PM

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Want to bump this one more time just because it can't be stressed enough

cnewby · 09-26-2025, 04:14 PM

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Ted Williams got screwed a few times. 1947 he had the triple crown, but the Yankees were a good team so Joe D wins.

Maybe he should've stolen a few bases. Lazy.

SaveMeTheGum · 09-26-2025, 04:15 PM

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1999 Pedro Martinez should have won the MVP award. His WAR was 9.8 versus Pudge's 6.4, he won the pitching Triple Crown. Pedro had the most first place votes. He narrowly lost BECAUSE TWO VOTERS LEFT HIM OFF THE LIST COMPLETELY.

Yeah, I’m still torn when it comes to pitchers winning MVP, but I got to watch a bunch of Pedro starts at Fenway in 1999 and they are probably my favorite in-person baseball memories of my lifetime.

tjforce · 09-26-2025, 04:15 PM

I'll add this one as well

Handsome Wes · 09-26-2025, 04:16 PM

Heinie Zimmerman won the Triple Crown in 1912 and finished tied for 6th in the MVP vote

He wasn't even the leading vote getter on his team. That went to Joe Tinker, who had a batting average 90 points lower than Zimmerman.

JohnnyHatesJazz · 09-26-2025, 04:18 PM

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Want to bump this one more time just because it can't be stressed enough

It can’t be stressed enough belle was an ahole running down kids with his car and that’s why he didn’t win. Voters don’t like aholes.

09-26-2025, 03:05 PM	#1
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09-26-2025, 03:42 PM	#12
SaveMeTheGum Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NH --> CA --> SC Posts: 16,675 Cardboard_Dynamite CardboardDynamite	Here's another Cleveland robbery. Manny had a much better argument to win in 1999 than Judge has over Raleigh this year... __________________ Pay fast. Ship fast. Deal with people honestly. IG: CardboardDynamite

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seanrs1 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,898	1987 George Bell MVP Alan Trammel was robbed __________________ PC-#1 Ohtani PC-Acuna, Soto, Tatis Jr., JRod, Vladdy Jr. Starting to collect-Judge, Betts, Trout Bag holder-#1 Wander Franco, #2 Tatis Jr.

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Nostalgia Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: New York Posts: 2,007	Albert Belle to Mo Vaughn Babe Ruth only won 1 because the rule back then was you werent allowed to win more than 1.

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here2havefun Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 1,256 venezuelan_league_stickers	Ted Williams got screwed a few times. 1947 he had the triple crown, but the Yankees were a good team so Joe D wins. __________________ IG: venezuelan_league_stickers

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Nostalgia Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: New York Posts: 2,007	1941 as well. At least in 1941 you can argue the 56 game hitting streak. But damn!

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tjforce Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 23,494	I'll add this one as well __________________ "Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because it’s the best thing going. Wooooo!"

09-26-2025, 04:16 PM	#24
Handsome Wes Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 947	Heinie Zimmerman won the Triple Crown in 1912 and finished tied for 6th in the MVP vote He wasn't even the leading vote getter on his team. That went to Joe Tinker, who had a batting average 90 points lower than Zimmerman.