2012 National Treasures RPA rank

rojallad · 03-25-2013, 10:01 PM

I'm just trying to gauge how successful this years will be compared to last years.
I looked at the RPA and came up with what I think this years top 10 is feel free to rearrange and add/remove.

1)Luck
2)Griffin
3)Wilson
4)Tannehill
5)Martin
6)Richardson
7)Weeden
8)Foles
9)Osweiler
10)Blackmon

Also here are what I think was 2011 top 10 at release.

1)Newton
2)Dalton
3)Locker
4)Murray
5)Mallett
6)Ponder
7)AJ Green
8)Julio Jones
9) Ingram
10)Gabbert

And how much more or less valuable do you think 2012/2011 will be for each spot?

sunsfan8 · 03-25-2013, 10:04 PM

2012:
1)Luck
2)Griffin
3)Wilson
4)Richardson
5)Tannehill
6)Martin
7)Foles
8)Blackmon
9)Weeden
10)Osweiler

2011:

1)Newton
2)Dalton
3)Green
4)Murray
5)Locker
6)Jones
7)Ponder
8)Ingram
9)Mallett
10)Gabbert

rojallad · 03-25-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sunsfan8

2012:
1)Luck
2)Griffin
3)Wilson
4)Richardson
5)Tannehill
6)Martin
7)Foles
8)Blackmon
9)Weeden
10)Osweiler

2011:

1)Newton
2)Dalton
3)Green
4)Murray
5)Locker
6)Jones
7)Ponder
8)Ingram
9)Mallett
10)Gabbert

Do you think Luck /99 will sell the same as Newton /99 during the first week?

TheBurg · 03-25-2013, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rojallad

Do you think Luck /99 will sell the same as Newton /99 during the first week?

I'm going to guess a bit more.

sunsfan8 · 03-25-2013, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rojallad

Do you think Luck /99 will sell the same as Newton /99 during the first week?

I think less due to the fact the number of amazing patches (panther head) will be less due to the smaller window and not everybody is too fond of the design.

BroncosFAN#1 · 03-25-2013, 10:16 PM

Whoever put Weeden and Foles over Brock Osweiler is nuts. I guess I may be a bit of a homer and going off of sale value but Osweiler is 7th at worst

rojallad · 03-25-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sunsfan8

I think less due to the fact the number of amazing patches (panther head) will be less due to the smaller window and not everybody is too fond of the design.

Ok so you think luck rpas will be <$1200 during the first week?

sunsfan8 · 03-25-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rojallad

Ok so you think luck rpas will be <$1200 during the first week?

$1750-1500. Newtons were $2k opening week.

rojallad · 03-25-2013, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncosFAN#1

Whoever put Weeden and Foles over Brock Osweiler is nuts. I guess I may be a bit of a homer and going off of sale value but Osweiler is 7th at worst

They will sell for similar amounts at release.

ajscards101 · 03-25-2013, 10:25 PM

I think Pierce and Lamar Miller will sell pretty well at the start.

rojallad · 03-25-2013, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunsfan8

$1750-1500. Newtons were $2k opening week.

Newtons /99 were $950><$1400 at release.

sunsfan8 · 03-25-2013, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rojallad

Newtons /99 were $950><$1400 at release.

Really? I thought right after release they were $2k. Then they dropped down to $1k.

rojallad · 03-25-2013, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunsfan8

Really? I thought right after release they were $2k. Then they dropped down to $1k.

Then/25 and /5 hit close to and over $2k. The /99s did not. So if Luck at $1500-$1700 still?

sunsfan8 · 03-25-2013, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rojallad

Then/25 and /5 hit close to and over $2k. The /99s did not. So if Luck at $1500-$1700 still?

Huh, I wonder why I thought the base sold for $2k.

Yeah, Luck should be $1.5k, but time will tell.

rojallad · 03-26-2013, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sunsfan8

Huh, I wonder why I thought the base sold for $2k.

Yeah, Luck should be $1.5k, but time will tell.

I dont know. But I am SURE they did not hit 2K

deltapi1049 · 03-26-2013, 06:48 AM

The design is terrible, and Luck ONLY has two colors available on the jersey. That will affect things greatly, even though the jersey shouldnt matter because they only wear them for 2 seconds at the premiere.

badsims · 03-26-2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ajscards101

I think Pierce and Lamar Miller will sell pretty well at the start.

Does anyone know if Alfred Morris or Bryce Brown will be in the set or is it only rookie premire players? With thier stats they would add value to the highly priced product IMO.

Zacy87 · 03-26-2013, 08:53 AM

I think some nicer RG3 patches could go for as much as lucks.

Also, has there been a checklist released? Just wondering if Josh Gordon will have an RPA

Razorsharp79 · 03-26-2013, 09:07 AM

This year is going to be hot out the gate, but drop fast, boring/horrible design RPA...

Are the RPA going to be /5 /25 /49 /99 again? I know they put in the printing plate 1/1s which was a horrible idea, put more 1/1s in a high end product to take away from the main event...perhaps a redemption for the entire set of 4 would have been better and more desirable IMO

On the ranking. it is not possible to rank last year vs this year

2011 design was not great, but far ahead of this year
Cam Newton had logo panther patches, luck does not
Overall 2012 is the worst looking NT ever IMO

1/1 SHields are all i will buy if the price is right or maybe some platinums to flip

rojallad · 03-26-2013, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badsims

Does anyone know if Alfred Morris or Bryce Brown will be in the set or is it only rookie premire players? With thier stats they would add value to the highly priced product IMO.

They will prolly be base Rcs. They won't have RPAs

rojallad · 03-26-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Zacy87

I think some nicer RG3 patches could go for as much as lucks.

Also, has there been a checklist released? Just wondering if Josh Gordon will have an RPA

I think only the players at the Premier would be RPAs.

rojallad · 03-26-2013, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razorsharp79

This year is going to be hot out the gate, but drop fast, boring/horrible design RPA...

Are the RPA going to be /5 /25 /49 /99 again? I know they put in the printing plate 1/1s which was a horrible idea, put more 1/1s in a high end product to take away from the main event...perhaps a redemption for the entire set of 4 would have been better and more desirable IMO

On the ranking. it is not possible to rank last year vs this year

2011 design was not great, but far ahead of this year
Cam Newton had logo panther patches, luck does not
Overall 2012 is the worst looking NT ever IMO

1/1 SHields are all i will buy if the price is right or maybe some platinums to flip

I know who to come to when I hit my 1/1s!

deltapi1049 · 03-26-2013, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razorsharp79

This year is going to be hot out the gate, but drop fast, boring/horrible design RPA...

Are the RPA going to be /5 /25 /49 /99 again? I know they put in the printing plate 1/1s which was a horrible idea, put more 1/1s in a high end product to take away from the main event...perhaps a redemption for the entire set of 4 would have been better and more desirable IMO

On the ranking. it is not possible to rank last year vs this year

2011 design was not great, but far ahead of this year
Cam Newton had logo panther patches, luck does not
Overall 2012 is the worst looking NT ever IMO

1/1 SHields are all i will buy if the price is right or maybe some platinums to flip

I like this year better than last year. Last year was a train wreck.

rojallad · 03-26-2013, 01:57 PM

Comparing this years NT vs last year. Who would you compare Russell Wilson to interns of initial sales?

Are Luck/Griffin/Wilson = Newton. Again just considering what they might do in the first week of sales.

bigmikeatl88 · 03-26-2013, 02:06 PM

Luck ~= Newton peak
Griffin 90% of Newton peak
Wilson 75-80% of Newton peak

?

03-26-2013, 01:57 PM	#24
rojallad Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 3,165 Rj5683sar	Comparing this years NT vs last year. Who would you compare Russell Wilson to interns of initial sales? Are Luck/Griffin/Wilson = Newton. Again just considering what they might do in the first week of sales. __________________ I hate eBay

03-25-2013, 10:01 PM	#1
rojallad Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 3,165 Rj5683sar	2012 National Treasures RPA rank I'm just trying to gauge how successful this years will be compared to last years. I looked at the RPA and came up with what I think this years top 10 is feel free to rearrange and add/remove. 1)Luck 2)Griffin 3)Wilson 4)Tannehill 5)Martin 6)Richardson 7)Weeden 8)Foles 9)Osweiler 10)Blackmon Also here are what I think was 2011 top 10 at release. 1)Newton 2)Dalton 3)Locker 4)Murray 5)Mallett 6)Ponder 7)AJ Green 8)Julio Jones 9) Ingram 10)Gabbert And how much more or less valuable do you think 2012/2011 will be for each spot? __________________ I hate eBay

03-25-2013, 10:04 PM	#2
sunsfan8 Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sent using US Airways WiFi Posts: 15,507 tenfourca	2012: 1)Luck 2)Griffin 3)Wilson 4)Richardson 5)Tannehill 6)Martin 7)Foles 8)Blackmon 9)Weeden 10)Osweiler 2011: 1)Newton 2)Dalton 3)Green 4)Murray 5)Locker 6)Jones 7)Ponder 8)Ingram 9)Mallett 10)Gabbert

03-25-2013, 10:16 PM	#6
BroncosFAN#1 Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Alliance NE (not by choice) Posts: 6,520 ElwayisGod Lakesports	Whoever put Weeden and Foles over Brock Osweiler is nuts. I guess I may be a bit of a homer and going off of sale value but Osweiler is 7th at worst

03-25-2013, 10:25 PM	#10
ajscards101 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 7,597	I think Pierce and Lamar Miller will sell pretty well at the start.

03-26-2013, 06:48 AM	#16
deltapi1049 Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,801 deltapi1049	The design is terrible, and Luck ONLY has two colors available on the jersey. That will affect things greatly, even though the jersey shouldnt matter because they only wear them for 2 seconds at the premiere.

03-26-2013, 08:53 AM	#18
Zacy87 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 10,665	I think some nicer RG3 patches could go for as much as lucks. Also, has there been a checklist released? Just wondering if Josh Gordon will have an RPA

03-26-2013, 09:07 AM	#19
Razorsharp79 Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: SC Posts: 9,367 pristine_gems	This year is going to be hot out the gate, but drop fast, boring/horrible design RPA... Are the RPA going to be /5 /25 /49 /99 again? I know they put in the printing plate 1/1s which was a horrible idea, put more 1/1s in a high end product to take away from the main event...perhaps a redemption for the entire set of 4 would have been better and more desirable IMO On the ranking. it is not possible to rank last year vs this year 2011 design was not great, but far ahead of this year Cam Newton had logo panther patches, luck does not Overall 2012 is the worst looking NT ever IMO 1/1 SHields are all i will buy if the price is right or maybe some platinums to flip

03-26-2013, 02:06 PM	#25
bigmikeatl88 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Atlanta Posts: 639 bigmikeatl88	Luck ~= Newton peak Griffin 90% of Newton peak Wilson 75-80% of Newton peak ?