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Old 06-20-2013, 03:09 PM   #1
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Default Will Adam Dunn be the 1st 500+ clean HR hitter not to

Make the hall of fame?

Every single player who has hit 500+ HR and hasn't been linked to PED's has or will make the Hall of fame when they are eligible.

Will Dunn be the 1st not to make it?
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:11 PM   #2
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No, he should make it IMO. I dont care if you bat .100, 500+ HR's is pretty damn good, especially clean.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:11 PM   #3
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He definitely shouldn't make it. He'd be the first 500 HR hitter with a sub 240 batting average.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:12 PM   #4
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He'll end up getting in, but definitely not on the first ballot.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:14 PM   #5
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There are certain achievements that should automatically lead to induction. I would say that 500 homeruns is one of those, as well as over 3,000 hits and 3,000 K's.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:15 PM   #6
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There are certain achievements that should automatically lead to induction. I would say that 500 homeruns is one of those, as well as over 3,000 hits and 3,000 K's.
3000 Ks hitting or pitching? Dunn could get close to that hitting.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:16 PM   #7
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Let's revisit this when his career is... Dunn.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:16 PM   #8
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Thome perhaps?
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Thome perhaps?
No way he misses, 7th all time in HRs.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:23 PM   #10
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I'm going to have to say no.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:24 PM   #11
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No way he will make it, that would be a joke to the hall. He may not even make 500 the way his career has gone downhill. 600 home runs is the sure fire way into the Hall now, not 500.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:24 PM   #12
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NVM missed the word NOT
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:26 PM   #13
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Thought we were past the time of using a single or multiple counting statistics to merit HOF consideration.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:28 PM   #14
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No way in hell does Dunn make it IMHO. If he can last until age 38 (possible but very doubtful), average 25 home runs, he could be over 550 bombs...and STILL not have a prayer of getting in. He is the epitome of a one dimensional player - nothing there beyond the home runs. Has never placed in the top 20 in MVP voting, never hit over .270 in a season, meh to bad defense...
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:30 PM   #15
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No way he misses, 7th all time in HRs.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:33 PM   #16
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Not a chance Dunn gets in....
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:35 PM   #18
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There is no way Adam Dunn should have plaque in the HOF. Sorry.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:36 PM   #19
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No way he will make it, that would be a joke to the hall. He may not even make 500 the way his career has gone downhill. 600 home runs is the sure fire way into the Hall now, not 500.
I think Dunn gets in if he reaches 500, he'd be more accomplished than at least 10-20% of the players currently in the Hall.

I also have to disagree with the bolded. The only reason it seems this way is because 10 people have done it since 1999. What most people fail to recognize is that 7 of those 10 people are tied to PED implications, so really only three (Griffey, Thomas, Thome) have done it the right way...the point being that it is still a very difficult milestone to reach.

I think Bonds and ARod probably would have made it there regardless of PEDs, but that's irrelevant.
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I think Dunn gets in if he reaches 500, he'd be more accomplished than at least 10-20% of the players currently in the Hall.

I also have to disagree with the bolded. The only reason it seems this way is because 10 people have done it since 1999. What most people fail to recognize is that 7 of those 10 people are tied to PED implications, so really only three (Griffey, Thomas, Thome) have done it the right way...the point being that it is still a very difficult milestone to reach.

I think Bonds and ARod probably would have made it there regardless of PEDs, but that's irrelevant.
Id like to hear this 10-20% whom he would be more accomplished than.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:45 PM   #21
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He definitely shouldn't make it. He'd be the first 500 HR hitter with a sub 240 batting average.
Killebrew was pretty close at .256. Reggie Jackson has a .270ish average as well, but Dunn's slash line is close if not better than some in the same category

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No way he misses, 7th all time in HRs.
Dunn could pass Thome.



If Thome gets in, Dunn is in IMO. Dunn has under 200 to go to catch Thome, which I think he will do. Dunn will always have a home in the American league (especially in the Moneyball, OBP era... dude takes his walks). Thome ultimately serves as the barometer for Dunn's candidacy (600 HRs, 5 ASGs 1 SS no MVPs, which will be similar to Dunn's award totals in the end)
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:01 PM   #22
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Killebrew was pretty close at .256. Reggie Jackson has a .270ish average as well, but Dunn's slash line is close if not better than some in the same category



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Dunn could pass Thome.



If Thome gets in, Dunn is in IMO. Dunn has under 200 to go to catch Thome, which I think he will do. Dunn will always have a home in the American league (especially in the Moneyball, OBP era... dude takes his walks). Thome ultimately serves as the barometer for Dunn's candidacy (600 HRs, 5 ASGs 1 SS no MVPs, which will be similar to Dunn's award totals in the end)
I respect your opinion, but you can't compare Thome and Dunn. Thome was on the short list of "games most feared hitters" during his prime - no one ever talked about Dunn the same way. Thome is a career .275ish hitter - better than Dunn ever did in a season! Thome finished top 7 in MVP voting 4 times, Dunn not once in top 20. Thome has a career WAR of ~73, Dunn is only at ~16! It's easy to compare the two physically, and yes, Thome played basically his whole career in the steroid era, but in the end Thome was far superior in all regards. Quite honestly, I don't see Thome going in first ballot - maybe take him 5-8 years to get in. Dunn will get 20% of the vote when his time comes - IF he hits 500 bombs.
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:02 PM   #23
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no way he makes it in. He's basically the Dave Kingman of the 00's except he strikes out more and hits more home runs, which are in keeping with general league trends.
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I respect your opinion, but you can't compare Thome and Dunn. Thome was on the short list of "games most feared hitters" during his prime - no one ever talked about Dunn the same way. Thome is a career .275ish hitter - better than Dunn ever did in a season! Thome finished top 7 in MVP voting 4 times, Dunn not once in top 20. Thome has a career WAR of ~73, Dunn is only at ~16! It's easy to compare the two physically, and yes, Thome played basically his whole career in the steroid era, but in the end Thome was far superior in all regards. Quite honestly, I don't see Thome going in first ballot - maybe take him 5-8 years to get in. Dunn will get 20% of the vote when his time comes - IF he hits 500 bombs.
I think Thome is a first or 2nd ballot IMO. He hit 612, that's damn impressive and he was an on base machine. I don't necessarily think he was one of the games most feared hitters outside of a three year stretch. I do think he would have been if not for all of the roid monsters of the day, (Sosa, Mcgwire, A-Rod, Bonds, Ramirez) he just wasn't the same household name.

Sadly, because of those idiots, he's remembered as a one-trick pony by many. If the steroid guys had never existed, he would have been more prevalent at the time. Just look at his 2002 season, and the MVP voting. Look at all the steroids up and down that list. He should have finished much higher. 1.122 OPS is a ridiculous season to finish 7th in MVP.

So not to really compare Thome (much better all-around hitter) and Dunn other than neither were the premier sluggers of their era, but both will probably be in top 10 HR at retirement and have questions surrounding their possible induction
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:14 PM   #25
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in my opinion he could hit 600 and have basically no shot to get in!! couple more yrs at .180 and his career is gonna end up like .210 hitter...who hit homers...cmon...thome is light years better than this guy...
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