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06-26-2013, 11:50 AM
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2012/13 UD Fleer Retro BKB Odds/Print Runs
I did my best to come up with the print runs and odds for this product based on the odds that were stated, serial #'ing and checklist. The production looks to be slightly higher than last year. I estimated that they only made 6,591 boxes last year and that number looks to have increased to 12,516 for this years production. Nearly double!
Here are the insert odds and print runs. It looks like you get nearly 2 Jordan/Lebron inserts per case: Insert # In Set Pack Odds Print Run Total PR Per Mini Per Box Per Case MJ/LBJ Count MJ/LBJ # Per Case 1997/98 Fleer EX 2001 Essential Credentials Now (Varied #) 42 277 21.5 903 0.04 0.07 0.43 2 0.02 1997/98 Fleer EX 2001 Essential Credentials Future (Varied #) 42 277 21.5 903 0.04 0.07 0.43 2 0.02 1997/98 Metal Universe Precious Metal Gems (# to 100) 50 50 100 5,000 0.20 0.40 2.40 2 0.10 1998/99 Metal Universe Precious Metal Gems (# to 50) 50 100 50 2,500 0.10 0.20 1.20 2 0.05 1997/98 Z-Force Rave (# to 399) 50 13 399 19,950 0.80 1.59 9.56 2 0.38 1997/98 Z-Force Super Rave (# to 50) 50 100 50 2,500 0.10 0.20 1.20 2 0.05 1997/98 Fleer Ultra Platinum Medallion (# to 100) 50 50 100 5,000 0.20 0.40 2.40 2 0.10 1996/97 Flair Legacy Row 1 (# to 150) 50 33 150 7,500 0.30 0.60 3.60 2 0.14 1996/97 Flair Legacy Row 1 Parallel (# to 1) 50 5,006 1 50 0.00 0.00 0.02 2 0.00 1997/98 Flair Legacy Row 0 (# to 100) 50 50 100 5,000 0.20 0.40 2.40 2 0.10 1997/98 Flair Legacy Row 0 Parallel (# to 1) 50 5,006 1 50 0.00 0.00 0.02 2 0.00 1999/00 Fleer Mystique Raise the Roof (# to 100) 21 119 100 2,100 0.08 0.17 1.01 2 0.10 1998/99 Fleer Tradition Playmakers Theatre (# to 100) 21 119 100 2,100 0.08 0.17 1.01 2 0.10 1996/97 Fleer Tradition Thrill Seekers (1:120*) 20 120 104 2,086 0.08 0.17 1.00 2 0.10 1997/98 Z-Force Big Men on Court (1:120*) 20 120 104 2,086 0.08 0.17 1.00 2 0.10 1996/97 Fleer Molten Metal (1:120*) 20 120 104 2,086 0.08 0.17 1.00 2 0.10 1997/98 Fleer Ultra Starring Role (1:180*) 21 180 66 1,391 0.06 0.11 0.67 2 0.06 1997/98 Fleer Ultra Court Masters (1:180*) 21 180 66 1,391 0.06 0.11 0.67 2 0.06 1997/98 Fleer EX 2001 (1:10*) 42 10 596 25,032 1.00 2.00 12.00 2 0.57 1997/98 Fleer Ultra (1:5*) 50 5 1,001 50,064 2.00 4.00 24.00 2 0.96 1996/97 Lucky 13 (1:40*) 13 40 481 6,258 0.25 0.50 3.00 0 0.00 1998/99 Lucky 13 (1:40*) 13 40 481 6,258 0.25 0.50 3.00 0 0.00 Rookie Sensations 30 3 2,781 83,440 3.33 6.67 40.00 0 0.00 Base Cards 50 0.27 18,584 929,209 37.12 74.24 445.45 2 17.82 Packs Made 250,320 Mini Boxes Made 25,032 Boxes Made 12,516 Cases Made 2,086 The Z-Force Rave /399 seem to be falling nearly 1 per mini box and appear to be an extra hit from last year which you only got 2 inserts per mini. This year you are getting 5 inserts per master box, 2 in 1 mini and 3 in the other mini box. The Lucky 13, Ultra and EX 2001 I am not counting as one of the 3 hits per mini box, FYI. Last edited by jdhaugh11; 07-08-2013 at 02:03 PM. |
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07-08-2013, 09:46 AM
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The Jordan and Lebron Autographs seem much harder to hit this year. I have seen over 10 cases opened either in person or online and have only seen 1 Lebron auto hit. Also it looks like the Essential Credentials are falling nearly 1 per case, about 1 of 6 cases won't have one. I really like these inserts the best.
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07-08-2013, 02:05 PM
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I have put together the odds and print runs for all the autographs as well. It might be easier to copy and paste these odds into excel in order to read them better:
Auto Set Name Group Odds # in Group Print Run Base Michael Jordan C 206 21 58 Base Lebron James C 206 21 58 Base Jason Kidd B 2,595 3 32 Base Dominique Wilkins C 206 21 58 Base Karl Malone C 206 21 58 Base Bill Walton D 176 10 142 Base Allen Iverson C 206 21 58 Base Paul Pierce C 206 21 58 Base Ray Allen C 206 21 58 Base Grant Hill C 206 21 58 Base Hakeem Olajuwon C 206 21 58 Base Bernard King E 77 14 232 Base Isiah Thomas C 206 21 58 Base Dennis Rodman C 206 21 58 Base Reggie Miller A 16,569 1 15 Base Bill Russell C 206 21 58 Base David Robinson C 206 21 58 Base Jim Jackson D 176 10 142 Base Larry Johnson C 206 21 58 Base Nate Thurmond D 176 10 142 Base Alonzo Mourning C 206 21 58 Base Anfernee Hardaway C 206 21 58 Base Glen Rice D 176 10 142 Base Tim Hardaway E 77 14 232 Base Walt Frazier D 176 10 142 Base Larry Bird C 206 21 58 Base John Havlicek C 206 21 58 Base Nick Van Exel D 176 10 142 Base Danny Manning E 77 14 232 Base Spud Webb E 77 14 232 Base Jamal Mashburn B 2,595 3 32 Base David Thompson E 77 14 232 Base Michael Ray Richardson E 77 14 232 Base Harold Miner E 77 14 232 Base Mark Price E 77 14 232 Base Jeff Hornacek E 77 14 232 Base Toni Kukoc E 77 14 232 Base A.C. Green E 77 14 232 Base Spencer Haywood D 176 10 142 Base Sean Elliott C 206 21 58 Base Allan Houston E 77 14 232 Base Dave Cowens D 176 10 142 Base Cheryl Miller E 77 14 232 Base Christian Laettner D 176 10 142 Base Magic Johnson C 206 21 58 Base Mark Jackson D 176 10 142 Base Vinny Del Negro E 77 14 232 Base Clyde Drexler C 206 21 58 Base Julius Erving B 2,595 3 32 RC Sen Meyers Leonard B 9 29 959 RC Sen Jeremy Lamb B 9 29 959 RC Sen Kendall Marshall B 9 29 959 RC Sen Moe Harkless B 9 29 959 RC Sen Tyler Zeller B 9 29 959 RC Sen Andrew Nicholson B 9 29 959 RC Sen Evan Fournier B 9 29 959 RC Sen Jared Cunningham B 9 29 959 RC Sen Miles Plumlee B 9 29 959 RC Sen Arnett Moultrie B 9 29 959 RC Sen Bernard James B 9 29 959 RC Sen Jae Crowder B 9 29 959 RC Sen Draymond Green B 9 29 959 RC Sen Quincy Acy B 9 29 959 RC Sen Khris Middleton B 9 29 959 RC Sen Will Barton B 9 29 959 RC Sen Tyshawn Taylor B 9 29 959 RC Sen Darius Miller B 9 29 959 RC Sen Kevin Murphy B 9 29 959 RC Sen Darius Johnson-Odom B 9 29 959 RC Sen Robbie Hummel B 9 29 959 RC Sen Robert Sacre B 9 29 959 RC Sen Wesley Witherspoon B 9 29 959 RC Sen William Buford B 9 29 959 RC Sen Ricardo Ratliffe A 194 1 1,290 RC Sen John Shurna B 9 29 959 RC Sen Tomas Satoransky B 9 29 959 RC Sen Justin Hamilton B 9 29 959 RC Sen JaMychal Green B 9 29 959 RC Sen Kris Joseph B 9 29 959 Lucky 13 96-97 Meyers Leonard A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 96-97 Kendall Marshall A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 96-97 Tyler Zeller A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 96-97 Evan Fournier A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 96-97 Miles Plumlee A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 96-97 Tomas Satoransky A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 96-97 Bernard James A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 96-97 Draymond Green A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 96-97 Khris Middleton A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 96-97 Tyshawn Taylor A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 96-97 Kevin Murphy A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 96-97 Kris Joseph A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 96-97 Robbie Hummel A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 98-99 Jeremy Lamb A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 98-99 Moe Harkless A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 98-99 Andrew Nicholson A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 98-99 Jared Cunningham A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 98-99 Arnett Moultrie A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 98-99 Jae Crowder A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 98-99 Quincy Acy A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 98-99 Will Barton A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 98-99 Darius Miller A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 98-99 Darius Johnson-Odom A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 98-99 Justin Hamilton A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 98-99 Robert Sacre A 240 13 80 Lucky 13 98-99 William Buford A 240 13 80 Flair Showcase Adrian Dantley E 179 5 280 Flair Showcase Anfernee Hardaway B 1,007 11 23 Flair Showcase Allen Iverson B 1,007 11 23 Flair Showcase Alonzo Mourning C 756 7 47 Flair Showcase Brad Daugherty F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Bill Laimbeer F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Bob McAdoo F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Bill Russell B 1,007 11 23 Flair Showcase Clyde Drexler C 756 7 47 Flair Showcase Cheryl Miller C 756 7 47 Flair Showcase Danny Manning D 308 5 163 Flair Showcase David Robinson B 1,007 11 23 Flair Showcase Dominique Wilkins B 1,007 11 23 Flair Showcase Eddie Jones F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Fat Lever F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Grant Hill B 1,007 11 23 Flair Showcase Harold Miner F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Allan Houston F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Isiah Thomas C 756 7 47 Flair Showcase LeBron James B 1,007 11 23 Flair Showcase Jared Cunningham F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Julius Erving B 1,007 11 23 Flair Showcase Jim Jackson F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Jason Kidd D 308 5 163 Flair Showcase Jamal Mashburn E 179 5 280 Flair Showcase Michael Jordan A 8,975 2 14 Flair Showcase Khris Middleton F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Larry Bird B 1,007 11 23 Flair Showcase Larry Johnson B 1,007 11 23 Flair Showcase Lonnie Shelton F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Karl Malone C 756 7 47 Flair Showcase Muggsy Bogues F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Michael Cooper E 179 5 280 Flair Showcase Mike Glover F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Magic Johnson B 1,007 11 23 Flair Showcase Meyers Leonard E 179 5 280 Flair Showcase Miles Plumlee F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Nate Thurmond D 308 5 163 Flair Showcase Olek Czyz F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Hakeem Olajuwon C 756 7 47 Flair Showcase Paul Pierce D 308 5 163 Flair Showcase Mark Price F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Ray Allen C 756 7 47 Flair Showcase Robbie Hummel F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Reggie Miller A 8,975 2 14 Flair Showcase Robert Horry F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Spencer Haywood D 308 5 163 Flair Showcase Spud Webb F 36 20 348 Flair Showcase Tim Hardaway E 179 5 280 Flair Showcase Will Barton F 36 20 348 Fleer Focus Anfernee Hardaway C 453 9 61 Fleer Focus Allen Iverson B 798 11 29 Fleer Focus Bernard James E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Bernard King E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Bill Laimbeer E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Bill Russell B 798 11 29 Fleer Focus Clyde Drexler B 798 11 29 Fleer Focus Cheryl Miller C 453 9 61 Fleer Focus Dave Cowens C 453 9 61 Fleer Focus Danny Manning C 453 9 61 Fleer Focus David Robinson B 798 11 29 Fleer Focus David Thompson D 308 5 163 Fleer Focus Dominique Wilkins C 453 9 61 Fleer Focus Eddie Jones C 453 9 61 Fleer Focus Grant Hill C 453 9 61 Fleer Focus Glen Rice E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Harold Miner D 308 5 163 Fleer Focus Isiah Thomas B 798 11 29 Fleer Focus Jae Crowder E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Julius Erving B 798 11 29 Fleer Focus Jeff Hornacek E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Jim Jackson E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Jamal Mashburn E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Magic Johnson B 798 11 29 Fleer Focus John Shurna E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Jo Jo White E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Kris Joseph E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Kevin Murphy E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Larry Bird B 798 11 29 Fleer Focus Lou Hudson E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus LeBron James B 798 11 29 Fleer Focus Lonnie Shelton E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Karl Malone B 798 11 29 Fleer Focus Moe Harkless E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Michael Jordan A 10,770 2 12 Fleer Focus Michael Ray Richardson E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Nate Thurmond E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Olek Czyz E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Paul Pierce D 308 5 163 Fleer Focus Ray Allen C 453 9 61 Fleer Focus Robert Horry E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Reggie Miller B 798 11 29 Fleer Focus Dennis Rodman D 308 5 163 Fleer Focus Ricardo Ratliffe E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Robert Sacre E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Reggie Theus E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Sean Elliott C 453 9 61 Fleer Focus Spencer Haywood A 10,770 2 12 Fleer Focus Tyler Zeller E 33 23 330 Fleer Focus Walt Frazier D 308 5 163 Fleer Mystique Adrian Dantley E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Anfernee Hardaway C 173 13 111 Fleer Mystique Allen Iverson B 917 8 34 Fleer Mystique Arnett Moultrie E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Bernard King D 133 9 209 Fleer Mystique Bob McAdoo E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Bill Russell B 917 8 34 Fleer Mystique Clyde Drexler C 173 13 111 Fleer Mystique Cheryl Miller C 173 13 111 Fleer Mystique Chet Walker E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique David Robinson B 917 8 34 Fleer Mystique David Thompson C 173 13 111 Fleer Mystique Dominique Wilkins C 173 13 111 Fleer Mystique Evan Fournier E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Grant Hill C 173 13 111 Fleer Mystique Justin Hamilton E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Isiah Thomas C 173 13 111 Fleer Mystique Julius Erving B 917 8 34 Fleer Mystique JaMychal Green E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique John Havlicek C 173 13 111 Fleer Mystique Jim Jackson D 133 9 209 Fleer Mystique Jeremy Lamb C 173 13 111 Fleer Mystique Michael Jordan A 8,975 2 14 Fleer Mystique Karl Malone B 917 8 34 Fleer Mystique Larry Bird B 917 8 34 Fleer Mystique LeBron James B 917 8 34 Fleer Mystique Lonnie Shelton D 133 9 209 Fleer Mystique Mark Jackson D 133 9 209 Fleer Mystique Magic Johnson B 917 8 34 Fleer Mystique Alonzo Mourning C 173 13 111 Fleer Mystique Mark Price E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Michael Ray Richardson E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Mark West D 133 9 209 Fleer Mystique Nate Thurmond D 133 9 209 Fleer Mystique Nick Van Exel E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Paul Pierce C 173 13 111 Fleer Mystique Pooh Richardson E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Quincy Acy E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Ray Allen C 173 13 111 Fleer Mystique Bryant Reeves E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Reggie Miller A 8,975 2 14 Fleer Mystique Dennis Rodman C 173 13 111 Fleer Mystique Shawn Bradley D 133 9 209 Fleer Mystique Sean Elliott D 133 9 209 Fleer Mystique Swen Nater E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Spud Webb E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Tyshawn Taylor E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique William Buford E 43 17 342 Fleer Mystique Walt Frazier D 133 9 209 Fleer Ultra Adrian Dantley F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra A.C. Green F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Allan Houston F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Allen Iverson C 1,026 7 35 Fleer Ultra Alonzo Mourning D 359 6 116 Fleer Ultra Andrew Nicholson F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Brad Daugherty F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Bobby Hurley F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Bill Laimbeer F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Bob McAdoo F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Clyde Drexler C 1,026 7 35 Fleer Ultra Connie Hawkins E 116 10 216 Fleer Ultra Chet Walker E 116 10 216 Fleer Ultra Danny Manning D 359 6 116 Fleer Ultra Draymond Green F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Darius Johnson-Odom F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Darius Miller F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra David Robinson C 1,026 7 35 Fleer Ultra Grant Hill D 359 6 116 Fleer Ultra Garrett Stutz F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Hal Greer F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Harold Miner F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Hakeem Olajuwon D 359 6 116 Fleer Ultra Isiah Thomas D 359 6 116 Fleer Ultra Mark Jackson E 116 10 216 Fleer Ultra Julius Erving A 11,967 2 10 Fleer Ultra JaMychal Green F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra John Havlicek B 3,590 3 23 Fleer Ultra Jamal Mashburn F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Magic Johnson C 1,026 7 35 Fleer Ultra Kendall Marshall F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Larry Johnson B 3,590 3 23 Fleer Ultra Larry Bird C 1,026 7 35 Fleer Ultra LeBron James C 1,026 7 35 Fleer Ultra Lonnie Shelton E 116 10 216 Fleer Ultra Karl Malone C 1,026 7 35 Fleer Ultra Michael Cooper F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Michael Jordan A 11,967 2 10 Fleer Ultra Mark Price E 116 10 216 Fleer Ultra Maalik Wayns F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Nick Van Exel F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Paul Pierce E 116 10 216 Fleer Ultra Ray Allen D 359 6 116 Fleer Ultra Reggie Miller B 3,590 3 23 Fleer Ultra Reggie Theus E 116 10 216 Fleer Ultra Tim Hardaway E 116 10 216 Fleer Ultra Toni Kukoc F 35 22 325 Fleer Ultra Tomas Satoransky E 116 10 216 Fleer Ultra Vinny Del Negro E 116 10 216 Fleer Ultra Wesley Witherspoon F 35 22 325 MJ Buyback Michael Jordan A 14,725 17 1 LBJ Buyback LeBron James A 62,580 4 1 |
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07-08-2013, 03:33 PM
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Thanks for the great breakdowns! I am thinking of opening some of this at the National, but these odds make it pretty risky. Maybe I'll just open a couple of boxes and hope to get lucky.
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