Should I Get This Card Graded - 1955 Topps Roberto Clemente

Hagaman42 · 08-12-2013, 10:46 AM

Should I get this PC card graded? Would it add any value to the card? What company would you get it graded by? What grade do you think it would get? What value do you place on the card as is? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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jr24ai3 · 08-12-2013, 11:02 AM

A little tough to tell from that pic. But assuming no creases or damage to the back, I'd say psa 5 or maybe 6(OC)

Hagaman42 · 08-12-2013, 11:05 AM

No damage or creases at all, definately off center, corners are alittle rounded, edges look decent.

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Originally Posted by jr24ai3

A little tough to tell from that pic. But assuming no creases or damage to the back, I'd say psa 5 or maybe 6(OC)

Djameson79 · 08-12-2013, 11:24 AM

To answer your question you should absolutely get it graded. I'm partial to SGC for vintage cards myself but PSA would be good as well. I avoid BVG.

Antmoon5 · 08-12-2013, 01:09 PM

IMO if a vintage card has very decent corners and at least 70/30 centering it is worth grading only if you want to sell it. If you are keeping it for yourself, who cares what it grades.

Hagaman42 · 08-12-2013, 01:38 PM

It's for my PC as I am a diehard Pittsburgh fan, however will sell someday when it's time. In my opinion, I think it would get a PSA 6. If it was my lucky day, a PSA 7, if it was not my lucky day, a PSA 5. Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Antmoon5

IMO if a vintage card has very decent corners and at least 70/30 centering it is worth grading only if you want to sell it. If you are keeping it for yourself, who cares what it grades.

jr24ai3 · 08-12-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hagaman42

It's for my PC as I am a diehard Pittsburgh fan, however will sell someday when it's time. In my opinion, I think it would get a PSA 6. If it was my lucky day, a PSA 7, if it was not my lucky day, a PSA 5. Thoughts?

No shot at a straight 7. If there is slight wear on a few corners, you won't get a 7(OC). And I think the centering is too far off for even a straight 6. So maybe a 5 with no qualifier or a 6(OC). But no shot at a straight 7 w/o a qualifier.

I'd still get it graded. Will make it easier to sell and you should get a little extra w/ it being graded.

Hagaman42 · 08-12-2013, 07:45 PM

Thanks for the insight, greatly appreciated

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Originally Posted by jr24ai3

No shot at a straight 7. If there is slight wear on a few corners, you won't get a 7(OC). And I think the centering is too far off for even a straight 6. So maybe a 5 with no qualifier or a 6(OC). But no shot at a straight 7 w/o a qualifier.

I'd still get it graded. Will make it easier to sell and you should get a little extra w/ it being graded.

kyle1707 · 08-15-2013, 12:12 PM

Any grade of 5 or better would add a lot of value if selling card on ebay..

one of the greatest vintage baseball cards every made..

Hagaman42 · 08-15-2013, 12:48 PM

I would hope at worst this card would get a 5, but I'm hoping for a 6

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

Any grade of 5 or better would add a lot of value if selling card on ebay..

one of the greatest vintage baseball cards every made..

hearseguy · 08-15-2013, 01:28 PM

I would go with SGC for that. My guess would be an SGC 60 or 70.

lindeman79 · 08-16-2013, 07:30 PM

PSA 6.........

hyperchipper09 · 08-16-2013, 11:49 PM

Yes.
And like some others, I'd use SGC

Hagaman42 · 08-17-2013, 08:39 AM

BVG or PSA?

smackvay · 08-17-2013, 01:56 PM

Id say a 6 is a reach.
but its only my opinion

Hagaman42 · 08-17-2013, 07:22 PM

I'm thinking a 6 OC?

37Jetson · 08-17-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hagaman42

I'm thinking a 6 OC?

That would be a kiss of death qualifier.

I just am not sure if that card can get a 6 with that centering.

teosdesserts · 08-17-2013, 08:18 PM

PSA PSA PSA

groundsupport · 08-17-2013, 08:24 PM

I'll say, you have the card protected in the worst possible way. Might as well throw a rubber band around it rather then crush/smoosh it.

It's My opinion, and I hate those cases.

ajw9356 · 08-17-2013, 08:28 PM

I doubt PSA will grade without a OC qualifier, they use that to indicate that the card is in better shape than the centering and since its badly OC one direction and poorly centered the other, don't think you get a straight grade from them. Good luck what ever you choose, I would ask to get a authentic unaltered non grade to put in a slab, I prefer Beckett slabs though and Beckett will be cheaper than the other two companies for a card That books tHat high. This card gets faked too much and is on the fast track to requiring authentication to sell them as real on eBay if its not there already.

ajw9356 · 08-17-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by groundsupport

I'll say, you have the card protected in the worst possible way. Might as well throw a rubber band around it rather then crush/smoosh it.

It's My opinion, and I hate those cases.

+1
That case may peel some of the surface off the card if its ever been exposed to high air moisture and or heat while in that case.

Old Nap · 08-17-2013, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ajw9356

+1
That case may peel some of the surface off the card if its ever been exposed to high air moisture and or heat while in that case.

Out of curiosity, would putting it in a Penny then the case? Or are those cases just terrible period.? They don't make Magnetics for that size do they?

Triple B · 08-17-2013, 09:10 PM

Those cases are brutal. I don't know if its a folk tale or what, but there was a story about a dude who brought a Jordan RC to the National to get it graded and he had it in one of those things. When he opened it, it peeled the Jordan clean in two pieces and the front and back stuck to the case.

Try taking it out of that thing CAREFULLY.

ajw9356 · 08-18-2013, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Nap

Out of curiosity, would putting it in a Penny then the case? Or are those cases just terrible period.? They don't make Magnetics for that size do they?

I think the extra thick penny sleeves work as a regular sleeve on the oversized 1955s. I think you can special order a different size top load to fit larger cards, but the 1955 fits in a Norman top load I think also. If nothing else a semirigid card holder is better Han nothing.

hychang5 · 08-18-2013, 09:09 PM

No, just sell it to me for $10.

Seriously, #1 get it out of that death case, then yes, get it graded.

I'd go with SGC myself, but I'm no expert in vintage. I just like SGC better and don't have the highest trust in PSA currently.

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08-17-2013, 08:39 AM	#14
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08-12-2013, 10:46 AM	#1
Hagaman42 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Butler, PA Posts: 3,065 hagaman42 Hagaman42	Should I Get This Card Graded - 1955 Topps Roberto Clemente Should I get this PC card graded? Would it add any value to the card? What company would you get it graded by? What grade do you think it would get? What value do you place on the card as is? Any help would be greatly appreciated! [IMG][/IMG] __________________ PC Players: Michael Jordan, David Robinson, Ben Roethlisberger, Sidney Crosby, Sabrina Ionescu WTTF: 2020 Prizm Sabrina Ionescu, 2019 National Treasures Ryan Finley RPA, Disney Lorcana Bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/156933719@N02/albums

08-12-2013, 11:02 AM	#2
jr24ai3 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,740	A little tough to tell from that pic. But assuming no creases or damage to the back, I'd say psa 5 or maybe 6(OC)

08-12-2013, 11:24 AM	#4
Djameson79 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,095 Djameson79	To answer your question you should absolutely get it graded. I'm partial to SGC for vintage cards myself but PSA would be good as well. I avoid BVG.

08-12-2013, 01:09 PM	#5
Antmoon5 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Long Valley, New Jersey Posts: 148 sydb_at Antmoon5	IMO if a vintage card has very decent corners and at least 70/30 centering it is worth grading only if you want to sell it. If you are keeping it for yourself, who cares what it grades.

08-15-2013, 12:12 PM	#9
kyle1707 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20,620	Any grade of 5 or better would add a lot of value if selling card on ebay.. one of the greatest vintage baseball cards every made..

08-16-2013, 07:30 PM	#12
lindeman79 Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: I wish I was back in Michigan Posts: 4,886 wretch24	PSA 6.........

08-16-2013, 11:49 PM	#13
hyperchipper09 Banned Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: The U.S.A. Posts: 30 lancerotenreprise DavidLanceRoten	Yes. And like some others, I'd use SGC

08-17-2013, 08:24 PM	#19
groundsupport Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 16,234 groundsupportse	I'll say, you have the card protected in the worst possible way. Might as well throw a rubber band around it rather then crush/smoosh it. It's My opinion, and I hate those cases.

08-17-2013, 08:28 PM	#20
ajw9356 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 3,139 ajws9356 ajw9356	I doubt PSA will grade without a OC qualifier, they use that to indicate that the card is in better shape than the centering and since its badly OC one direction and poorly centered the other, don't think you get a straight grade from them. Good luck what ever you choose, I would ask to get a authentic unaltered non grade to put in a slab, I prefer Beckett slabs though and Beckett will be cheaper than the other two companies for a card That books tHat high. This card gets faked too much and is on the fast track to requiring authentication to sell them as real on eBay if its not there already. __________________ I collect: Kansas State, Darren Sproles, Jordy Nelson, Royals, Hosmer, Pujols, Chiefs, Saints, Jimmy Graham, QBs and other random stuff. Thanks, James Bucket: http://s1095.photobucket.com/albums/i471/ajw9356/

08-17-2013, 09:10 PM	#23
Triple B Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 6,257	Those cases are brutal. I don't know if its a folk tale or what, but there was a story about a dude who brought a Jordan RC to the National to get it graded and he had it in one of those things. When he opened it, it peeled the Jordan clean in two pieces and the front and back stuck to the case. Try taking it out of that thing CAREFULLY. __________________ Wanted Dead or Alive! 1. 1997 Bowman's Best Jose Cruz, Jr Atomic Refractor Autograph 2. 1997 SPx Jose Cruz, Jr. Grand Finale /50

08-18-2013, 09:09 PM	#25
hychang5 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,512	No, just sell it to me for $10. Seriously, #1 get it out of that death case, then yes, get it graded. I'd go with SGC myself, but I'm no expert in vintage. I just like SGC better and don't have the highest trust in PSA currently.