Can a single play determine a game?

[lagalaxyfan23]

The answer is absolutely yes. I believe it was 2011 when the Giants won the Super Bowl right? I distinctly remember during the regular season when it was the Giants vs. Cowboys. The Cowboys were lined up for an easy game-winning field goal, but Jason Pierre-Paul blocked it, and the Giants won the game. Fast forward to the last game of the regular season. The Giants went up again against the Cowboys. The winner of that game advanced to the playoffs. The Giants ended up winning that game, so they went to playoffs. However, if JPP would not have blocked that FG attempt, the Giants would not have been able to make playoffs even if they won that last game. They then won the Super Bowl.

[Manmadeofsteel]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

I think what it comes down to is: determining the outcome vs determining which team deserved to win.

For an example, when Colt McCoy injured his arm against Alabama in the Championship Game, it could easily be said to have determined who ended up winning (Alabama), but it would be much harder to say that it determined who deserved to win.

This too, I agree with...Too many variables, it's confusing me; This thread is kind of like the meaning of life sports edition!

[TheFrenzy]

Relevant bump.

[LCM1223]

Case in point

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by LCM1223

Case in point

[oplum29]

this thread is 9 years old, but i'll say this.

for people saying that one call determines a contest, they are just ridiculous. that's loser mentality, and it's gone on for far too long in America.

you never lose a game with one play, its a series of plays. penalties, dropped passes, missed tackles, etc

[mc1]

Did it all on his own, huh?

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by oplum29

you never lose a game with one play

That's a really hard position to defend.

Take any game that comes down to a kick on the final play. According to your logic, neither team deserves to win.

[ThePatriotWay]

A single inch can determine a game.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by ThePatriotWay

A single inch can determine a game.

Agree. This seems like common sense to me.

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

That's a really hard position to defend.

Take any game that comes down to a kick on the final play. According to your logic, neither team deserves to win.

i never said "deserves to win", i said that when you break down a game, from start to finish, it never comes down to one final decisive play, it's always a series of errors from earlier that culminate in the end.

the 49ers didn't lose to Mahomes a few years ago because of the JimmyG overthrow, it was because of several plays from earlier.

the blown 3rd and 17. the terrible INT he threw to Breeland. missed throws to Kittle, a blocked pass by Jones, failing to execute on 3rd down, and how we stopped running the ball despite averaging over 5 yards a carry.

but people only remember the overthrow.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by oplum29

i never said "deserves to win", i said that when you break down a game, from start to finish, it never comes down to one final decisive play, it's always a series of errors from earlier that culminate in the end.

That doesn't change anything.

A game has come down to a final kick to win the game. What is going to determine the outcome—the previous plays or the final single play?

[mossoholic]

When a game goes from 50/50 to 99.9% because of one bs call or no call then yes one play can decide the game.

Can’t believe I had to listen to that bum Booger McFarland say multiple times JuJu would have scored a touchdown if he wasn’t “held”. The receiver wouldn’t have gained one step let alone 10 yards to be able to catch that pass.

[BGT Masters]

Well of course it does. Only a moron would think differently. One single play/call can absolutely have an impact on a game. The less time left in a close game to overcome a bad play/call the more impact it has on the outcome.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by BGT Masters

Well of course it does. Only a moron would think differently. One single play/call can absolutely have an impact on a game. The less time left in a close game to overcome a bad play/call the more impact it has on the outcome.

Again, I agree.

Again, seems like common sense.

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

That doesn't change anything.

A game has come down to a final kick to win the game. What is going to determine the outcome—the previous plays or the final single play?

the previous plays obviously, which helped set up the final play in the end.

Philly was up 24-14, allowed KC to scored on three times, trailed 35-27 before they drove down and tied the game and the holding class happened.

but yes, let's all talk about the holding call and ignore that Philly blew a 10-point lead and was outscored 21-3 before they tied the game up.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by oplum29

the previous plays obviously, which helped set up the final play in the end.

Serious question: Are you drunk right now?

Because you are arguing here that the game would have already been determined before the kicker ever touched the ball.

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Again, I agree.

Again, seems like common sense.

higher level thinking people know that one play doesn't cost you a game, it's a series of plays. common sense tells you it was one play.

and that's what separates regular people from higher level thinking people.

it's why some people score on the low end, middle, or high end of the thinking spectrum. it's what separates the Einsteins from the Joe Citizens.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by oplum29

higher level thinking people know that one play doesn't cost you a game, it's a series of plays. common sense tells you it was one play.

and that's what separates regular people from higher level thinking people.

it's why some people score on the low end, middle, or high end of the thinking spectrum. it's what separates the Einsteins from the Joe Citizens.

There is so much that is signature worthy here.

[SupermanBrandon]

Frenzy's been doing polls for a decade?

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

There is so much that is signature worthy here.

just telling it like it is my man. you don't have to agree with me, that's okay.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by oplum29

higher level thinking people know that one play doesn't cost you a game, it's a series of plays. common sense tells you it was one play.

and that's what separates regular people from higher level thinking people.

it's why some people score on the low end, middle, or high end of the thinking spectrum. it's what separates the Einsteins from the Joe Citizens.

So we have officially gotten to the point that we are running down those that believe one play can impact the outcome of a game? Man and I was told I was taking this too seriously during the afc championship game

[coltsnsox07]

Ask the ghost of Bill Buckner.
But a bunch of other bad stuff happened before that little roller along first.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by oplum29

higher level thinking people know that one play doesn't cost you a game, it's a series of plays. common sense tells you it was one play.

and that's what separates regular people from higher level thinking people.

it's why some people score on the low end, middle, or high end of the thinking spectrum. it's what separates the Einsteins from the Joe Citizens.

Not necessarily this game but I can think of several instances where a call had a direct impact on the outcome of of the game and not just in football. But I guess that means I don't at a high enough level

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

Ask the ghost of Bill Buckner.
But a bunch of other bad stuff happened before that little roller along first.

But those things along the way don't matter if Buckner makes that play