2015 New York Mets season thread

[Wrightfan85]

So with the offseason thread...yeah, I thought that the time to post this was now. Only 40 days away until Spring Training so let's look at three big questions:

1. Can David Wright be David Wright?: Because when Day vud Right is Day vud Right, he's Mike Schmidt Seriously though, David Wright had his worst season since his rookie year and was meerly an average regular instead of a all-star calibur guy. Will he go back to being great or is this the beginning of a downfall?

2. Will our pitching go from good to majorly rad?: Mets pitching has been a strength for years now and got even better with the unexpected breakthrough of Jacob deGrom in 2014. Will Harvey be 100%? Will Wheeler go to the next plane? Will THOR! (god of thunder) be great right out of the get go?

3. Can the whole offense look major league worthy?: The Mets hugest obstacle is hitting like a major league team. Can Granderson hit a few more homers? Can Cuddyer go back to 2013 mode? Will d'Arnaud be the 2nd half or 1st half version from 2014?

In a seperate question, who do you think will break through in the minors for 2015? My picks are:

1. Marcos Molina: Recieved great praise for his work at Brooklyn in 2014 and will now head to the pitching friendly confines of Savannah. If he improves his curve or change, I think we have another #2 starter type.

2. Casey Mesiner: See above but probably more like a #3 starter. Has great balance for a tall lanky guy. Started off Brooklyn rough before getting it going the last few starts.

3. Wuilmer Beccera: Still very raw but he showed some interesting power in Kingsport. He's going to be fun to watch.

[jewcer2k5]

Finally a 2015 thread!!!!!

#2 in the bottom part...SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[metsplaya123]

I don't know about wright, I want to see if he can stay healthy. He is a big guy but he is proving more and more to be fragile.

I don't think the big question with darnaud is his capability, we saw what he can do. It's also staying healthy. If he does he will be one of the best offensive catchers in the league. He won't be hitting 6th if he is.

I will pick conforto and matz to shine for 2015.

Is this really the new thread? I expect stars or some kind of excitement in the title for such a thread

[sideout1212]

Will Dom Smith at least hit double figure HR is another question to add. I hope Wright just stays healthy and bounces somewhat back. I doubt he is ever a .300/30/30 threat again but I'd take .300 with 20 HR. He's only done that one time in last six seasons so maybe wishful thinking.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by sideout1212

Will Dom Smith at least hit double figure HR is another question to add. I hope Wright just stays healthy and bounces somewhat back. I doubt he is ever a .300/30/30 threat again but I'd take .300 with 20 HR. He's only done that one time in last six seasons so maybe wishful thinking.

Dom Smith's HR count doesnt matter one bit until he is getting close to the majors. If he develops solid gap power, he keeps his sweet line drive swing and his above average plate discipline he will be a stud.

At age 19 in LoA there was a player that had the following stat line.

195 AB - 45 hits, 8 2b, 1 HR, 20 RBI, 34 BB/64 K .231/.348/.287

Dom Smiths Line

461 AB - 125 hits, 26 2b, 1 HR, 44 RBI, 51 BB/77 K - .271/.344/.338

Same age, different league, crappier stadium...Do you wanna guess who the line at age 19 is that I didn't name?

Who had a SLG % .050 LOWER than Dom at the same age in the same level?

[metsplaya123]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Dom Smith's HR count doesnt matter one bit until he is getting close to the majors. If he develops solid gap power, he keeps his sweet line drive swing and his above average plate discipline he will be a stud.

At age 19 in LoA there was a player that had the following stat line.

195 AB - 45 hits, 8 2b, 1 HR, 20 RBI, 34 BB/64 K .231/.348/.287

Dom Smiths Line

461 AB - 125 hits, 26 2b, 1 HR, 44 RBI, 51 BB/77 K - .271/.344/.338

Same age, different league, crappier stadium...Do you wanna guess who the line at age 19 is that I didn't name?

Who had a SLG % .050 LOWER than Dom at the same age in the same level?

It will only matter for prospectors like you.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by metsplaya123

It will only matter for prospectors like you.

Way to not read the question and make up some pointless comment.

Please refrain from doing this if you expect to have adult conversations.

If you wanna act like a troll you will be treated as one.

[metsplaya123]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Way to not read the question and make up some pointless comment.

Please refrain from doing this if you expect to have adult conversations.

If you wanna act like a troll you will be treated as one.

I'm sorry SIR, DID YOU ASK A QUESTION? I AM ANSWERING YOU!

You said it won't matter that he doesn't hit homers until he is close to the majors. You are correct. It won't matter for him or the mets.

It will matter for YOU though and other prospectors

If he doesn't hit homers his prices don't increase.

WAY TO TRY AND START ANOTHER USELESS ARGUMENT MAN, you must be a blast at parties.

[metsplaya123]

I will bet he hits more than 1 homerun this season

[sideout1212]

I understand he doesn't need to hit 25 hr to be ok but if he isn't able to hit any again I would be worried. Hence I said 10. Progression should lead to some going out.

[sideout1212]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Dom Smith's HR count doesnt matter one bit until he is getting close to the majors. If he develops solid gap power, he keeps his sweet line drive swing and his above average plate discipline he will be a stud.

At age 19 in LoA there was a player that had the following stat line.

195 AB - 45 hits, 8 2b, 1 HR, 20 RBI, 34 BB/64 K .231/.348/.287

Dom Smiths Line

461 AB - 125 hits, 26 2b, 1 HR, 44 RBI, 51 BB/77 K - .271/.344/.338

Same age, different league, crappier stadium...Do you wanna guess who the line at age 19 is that I didn't name?

Who had a SLG % .050 LOWER than Dom at the same age in the same level?

How many did this star you pulled stats for hit out in his next 500 or so AB?

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by sideout1212

How many did this star you pulled stats for hit out in his next 500 or so AB?

Looks like 19 at age 20 between LoA (repeating the league) and HiA.

Looks like this player was doing well in R ball and got called up instead of starting the season at LoA.

But you still didn't answer the question.

[death2redemptions]

A new thread...a new era.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Dom Smith's HR count doesnt matter one bit until he is getting close to the majors. If he develops solid gap power, he keeps his sweet line drive swing and his above average plate discipline he will be a stud.

At age 19 in LoA there was a player that had the following stat line.

195 AB - 45 hits, 8 2b, 1 HR, 20 RBI, 34 BB/64 K .231/.348/.287

Dom Smiths Line

461 AB - 125 hits, 26 2b, 1 HR, 44 RBI, 51 BB/77 K - .271/.344/.338

Same age, different league, crappier stadium...Do you wanna guess who the line at age 19 is that I didn't name?

Who had a SLG % .050 LOWER than Dom at the same age in the same level?

Originally Posted by metsplaya123

I'm sorry SIR, DID YOU ASK A QUESTION? I AM ANSWERING YOU!

You said it won't matter that he doesn't hit homers until he is close to the majors. You are correct. It won't matter for him or the mets.

It will matter for YOU though and other prospectors

If he doesn't hit homers his prices don't increase.

WAY TO TRY AND START ANOTHER USELESS ARGUMENT MAN, you must be a blast at parties.

This the exact problem I am talking about. I never asked anything about his prices or anything about it mattering for "me as a prospector". You created a random question in your mind that was off topic and answered it.

Please just answer the questions that are asked. Its like talking to a brick wall, do you really not realize that you do this?

I feel like if I asked you what color the ceiling was you'd tell me the walls are white.

[sideout1212]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Looks like 19 at age 20 between LoA (repeating the league) and HiA.

Looks like this player was doing well in R ball and got called up instead of starting the season at LoA.

But you still didn't answer the question.

I'm not going to guess at who the star is, ok I'll take one guess and say Delgado but:
1. you say he hit 19 next season and
2. examples of guys that have gotten much better doesn't change the fact that better numbers at any level = better probability of succeeding at the pro level. I understand your point that the power #s don't matter too much but you'd still prefer to see better #s.

So I don't think I'm being an idiot hoping for 10+ HR as a sign of future power potential.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by sideout1212

I'm not going to guess at who the star is, ok I'll take one guess and say Delgado but:
1. you say he hit 19 next season and
2. examples of guys that have gotten much better doesn't change the fact that better numbers at any level = better probability of succeeding at the pro level. I understand your point that the power #s don't matter too much but you'd still prefer to see better #s.

So I don't think I'm being an idiot hoping for 10+ HR as a sign of future power potential.

I totally agree I want to see it. He was playing at least 1 level above his age last year and had an extremely solid middle of the season. Of course id love to see him smash 10 in April and move to AA and do it again. I'm just saying that with line drive hitters that have a good approach you just want to see that stick and develop.

Look at Nimmo. He was horrible in savannah and had a much better season after his promotion.

Delgado is incorrect.

Fwiw it was a player that I specifically searched for bc in my head/eyes it's a great comparison. Not Adrian Gonzalez either.

[sideout1212]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

I totally agree I want to see it. He was playing at least 1 level above his age last year and had an extremely solid middle of the season. Of course id love to see him smash 10 in April and move to AA and do it again. I'm just saying that with line drive hitters that have a good approach you just want to see that stick and develop.

Look at Nimmo. He was horrible in savannah and had a much better season after his promotion.

Delgado is incorrect.

Fwiw it was a player that I specifically searched for bc in my head/eyes it's a great comparison. Not Adrian Gonzalez either.

Well you follow prospects probably 100x times more than me so for me I'd just like to see easy evidence of progression but I get its not that important early on. At least narrow it down is it a current player? Goldschmidt? I'm assuming it's a high average guy at 1b.

[metsplaya123]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

I totally agree I want to see it. He was playing at least 1 level above his age last year and had an extremely solid middle of the season. Of course id love to see him smash 10 in April and move to AA and do it again. I'm just saying that with line drive hitters that have a good approach you just want to see that stick and develop.

Look at Nimmo. He was horrible in savannah and had a much better season after his promotion.

Delgado is incorrect.

Fwiw it was a player that I specifically searched for bc in my head/eyes it's a great comparison. Not Adrian Gonzalez either.

Oh that's easy then

James loney

[enbambam6986]

How can anyone say that a .270 Cuddyer isn't a huge upgrade. Plus Granderson can't be any worse. We need him to hit at least 25hrs, .240 avg, and continue to walk.

2014:
LF
Avg-.219 (3rd worst in MLB)
Slg-.309 (worst in MLB)
Ops-.615 (2nd worst in MLB)
RBI-46 (2nd worst in MLB)
HR-6 (hahaha)(worst in MLB)

Not as bad, but that's hard to do
RF
Avg-.240 (7th worst in MLB)
Hr-19
Everything else (bottom half of the league)

Also, is a bad Matt Harvey better than a good Dillion Gee? Probably

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by sideout1212

Well you follow prospects probably 100x times more than me but so for me if just like to see easy evidence of progression. At least narrow it down is it a current player? Goldschmidt? I'm assuming it's a high average guy at 1b.

Current player. Not goldschmidt.

High average. Moderate power. Considered one of the best hitters in the game

[metsplaya123]

Originally Posted by enbambam6986

How can anyone say that a .270 Cuddyer isn't a huge upgrade. Plus Granderson can't be any worse. We need him to hit at least 25hrs, .240 avg, and continue to walk.

2014:
LF
Avg-.219 (3rd worst in MLB)
Slg-.309 (worst in MLB)
Ops-.615 (2nd worst in MLB)
RBI-46 (2nd worst in MLB)
HR-6 (hahaha)(worst in MLB)

Not as bad, but that's hard to do
RF
Avg-.240 (7th worst in MLB)
Hr-19
Everything else (bottom half of the league)

Also, is a bad Matt Harvey better than a good Dillion Gee? Probably

Because cuddyer is a walking injury

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by metsplaya123

Oh that's easy then

James loney

Incorrect....

[jewcer2k5]

4x all star and former MVP

[sideout1212]

Morneau!.....

[metsplaya123]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

4x all star and former MVP

Justin morneau???