RG3 down again

jason122883 · 08-20-2015, 07:24 PM

Not sure how serious, didnt look bad. Has been lying on the ground for the last few minutes

jason122883 · 08-20-2015, 07:26 PM

Got up and walked off, so good news is, it doesn't look to be his knees

jason122883 · 08-20-2015, 07:29 PM

Shoulder and Concussion symptoms

SPCRD · 08-20-2015, 07:30 PM

I'm a huge Cowboys fan and hate Redskins but I want to actually see him show everyone he is good.. But I don't think any QB would want to be behind the Redskins o-line.. Guess everyone will blame RG3 again lol

duwal · 08-20-2015, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SPCRD

I'm a huge Cowboys fan and hate Redskins but I want to actually see him show everyone he is good.. But I don't think any QB would want to be behind the Redskins o-line.. Guess everyone will blame RG3 again lol

The problem is he looks to be on a long list of QB's that are college good but does not translate into pro good

jason122883 · 08-20-2015, 07:35 PM

That O Line has done him NO favors. He got crushed all night

armyatc22 · 08-20-2015, 07:37 PM

Right side stinger lol

Wisconsinboy42 · 08-20-2015, 07:39 PM

That O-Line has serious problems and RG3 wont do much without something changing

RogerGodahell · 08-20-2015, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by duwal

The problem is he looks to be on a long list of QB's that are college good but does not translate into pro good

That's because a QB is meant to throw the ball not run it every play. Works in college not in the NFL when everyone is big and just as fast as they are.

oaklandasfan · 08-20-2015, 09:22 PM

but he said hes the best qb in the nfl

pgisback · 08-20-2015, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by duwal

The problem is he looks to be on a long list of QB's that are college good but does not translate into pro good

He had one of the best if not the best RC season in the history of the NFL. No one planned on all these injuries. In the last 4 years, he has won a Heisman, won the NFL ROY, and struggled for 2 seasons with injuries.

duwal · 08-20-2015, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pgisback

He had one of the best if not the best RC season in the history of the NFL. No one planned on all these injuries. In the last 4 years, he has won a Heisman, won the NFL ROY, and struggled for 2 seasons with injuries.

No one planned on it but just about everyone could have predicted it. The guy does not have a physique that would be able to take all of the punishment and be durable. Now that teams have seen what his traits are after seeing his first season they made adjustments to give him no space and try to figure out how to read defenses and make a play in the pocket instead of scrambling and he hasn't figured that out yet

pgisback · 08-20-2015, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by duwal

No one planned on it but just about everyone could have predicted it. The guy does not have a physique that would be able to take all of the punishment and be durable. Now that teams have seen what his traits are after seeing his first season they made adjustments to give him no space and try to figure out how to read defenses and make a play in the pocket instead of scrambling and he hasn't figured that out yet

No one predicted that. His rookie season proved he is a legit NFL quarterback. He was injured towards the end and has had injury problems since. Any Redskins fan knows there are far more problems with the skins than RG3. Their O'line, their defense, dropping passing, injuries, etc, etc. RG3 has good enough stats to be a starter in the NFL. He does not commit very many turnovers, he has great arm strength, great speed if he's not injured. He's a great qb, the Redskins as a team just sucks. No qb succeeds there.

Wolves4Life · 08-21-2015, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by oaklandasfan

but he said hes the best qb in the nfl

He can be best QB (behind Rodgers and Brady) with an offensive line.

zonacats8 · 08-21-2015, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pgisback

No one predicted that. His rookie season proved he is a legit NFL quarterback. He was injured towards the end and has had injury problems since. Any Redskins fan knows there are far more problems with the skins than RG3. Their O'line, their defense, dropping passing, injuries, etc, etc. RG3 has good enough stats to be a starter in the NFL. He does not commit very many turnovers, he has great arm strength, great speed if he's not injured. He's a great qb, the Redskins as a team just sucks. No qb succeeds there.

What are you talking about?

Everyone predicted that would happen to him

RG3 and Cam play similar styles of game except Cam is built like a DE while RG3 is built like a punter

This was very predictable

chitownbears22 · 08-21-2015, 03:57 AM

Did anyone actually watch him play? He held the ball for far too long all game. There is a reason why he is getting hit constantly. The broadcasters kept blaming the OL (who played decently, but not great).

You are going to get sacked 60 times a year if your play progression is:

1. Snap
2. Step back
3. Lift head and read the field (that is right, he is not reading the coverage when dropping back LOL)
4. First read not available, attempt second read while figuring out where to run, oh there is the open man. SACK or hit while throwing!!!!

The guy has 3 seconds to throw on almost every play without getting hit or pressured. That is plenty of time to get the ball out of your hands. The second problem is that he step up into a broken pocket. Why the hell are you getting closer to the defenders as protection breaks down (natural event in a long duration play).

Then Colt McCoy steps on the field and he makes the correct pre-snap read and gets rid of the ball quick. He is not special, but he also doesn't take a beating...

pgisback · 08-21-2015, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by zonacats8

What are you talking about?

Everyone predicted that would happen to him

RG3 and Cam play similar styles of game except Cam is built like a DE while RG3 is built like a punter

This was very predictable

No one predicted him winning the ROY, leading the Redskins to the playoffs, and having one of the greatest RC seasons in the history of the NFL. People make baseless predictions that all running qbs will get injured. He won the ROY. Lasted a whole season and dominated the NFL. Fluke knee injury towards the end of the season. Even lead them to a 14-0 lead in the playoffs before his knee gave out. Making baseless claims that any running qb will get injured is ridiculous.

chitownbears22 · 08-21-2015, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pgisback

No one "predicted" it. People say that about any running qbs. He won the ROY. Last a whole season and dominated the NFL. Fluke knee injury towards the end of the season. Even lead them to a 14-0 lead in the playoffs before his knee gave out. Making baseless claims that any running qb will get injured is ridiculous.

It is not all running QBs that get hurt, it is only the ones that are too stupid to slide and protect themselves.

RGIII has always been too stupid to protect himself, which led to people thinking he would get injured, and then ultimately he got injured...

Funny how that works.

No one says anything about Cam getting hurt running because he protects himself by sliding and not taking the huge hit, Kaep does the same, same with Wilson, same with Rodgers, same with Cutler, same with Bridgewater, same with Tannehill, same with.....you get the point.

pgisback · 08-21-2015, 04:09 AM

RG3 has a higher career passer rating than Andrew Luck. 40 tds and only 23 ints, those are not numbers of a qb that cannot play in the NFL. The dude can play qb as long as hes healthy. The Redskins have far more issues than RG3.

pgisback · 08-21-2015, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chitownbears22

It is not all running QBs that get hurt, it is only the ones that are too stupid to slide and protect themselves.

RGIII has always been too stupid to protect himself, which led to people thinking he would get injured, and then ultimately he got injured...

Funny how that works.

No one says anything about Cam getting hurt running because he protects himself by sliding and not taking the huge hit, Kaep does the same, same with Wilson, same with Rodgers, same with Cutler, same with Bridgewater, same with Tannehill, same with.....you get the point.

No one knew he was going to get hurt. He won the ROY and dominated his rookie season. Obviously he was able to run on NFL teams before his fluke knee injury. Even Tom Brady lost a season by a fluke accident. RG3 injured himself last season without contact. Has nothing to do with him "not protecting himself". Just unfortunate injuries. He's obviously capable of playing in the NFL though. He has very good numbers when he's on the field. The team around him just sucks.

chitownbears22 · 08-21-2015, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pgisback

RG3 has a higher career passer rating than Andrew Luck. 40 tds and only 23 ints, those are not numbers of a qb that cannot play in the NFL. The dude can play qb as long as hes healthy. The Redskins have far more issues than RG3.

Don't forget his 14 fumbles lost out of 32 total fumbles......

Also don't forget to show off his fancy numbers since his injury:

20 TD 18 Ints

This dude has been on fire!!!! The NFL definitely doesn't have him figured out. LB spy + 5 DB = dumpster fire!!!!!!

chitownbears22 · 08-21-2015, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pgisback

No one knew he was going to get hurt. He won the ROY and dominated his rookie season. Obviously he was able to run on NFL teams before his fluke knee injury. Even Tom Brady lost a season by a fluke accident. RG3 injured himself last season without contact. Has nothing to do with him "not protecting himself". Just unfortunate injuries. He's obviously capable of playing in the NFL though. He has very good numbers when he's on the field. The team around him just sucks.

He is not capable of playing in the NFL. He is not a good pocket QB. He was only a threat when he could run, but he got injured and now he is a bad 1-dimensional QB. I can name 5 backups that are better than him in his current state.

pgisback · 08-21-2015, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chitownbears22

Don't forget his 14 fumbles lost out of 32 total fumbles......

Also don't forget to show off his fancy numbers since his injury:

20 TD 18 Ints

This dude has been on fire!!!! The NFL definitely doesn't have him figured out. LB spy + 5 DB = dumpster fire!!!!!!

Lmao, 20 tds and 18 ints for a qb with no offensive line. Plus the NFL didn't figure him out. He had a knee brace on and couldn't even run. You must not watch much football.

pgisback · 08-21-2015, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chitownbears22

He is not capable of playing in the NFL. He is not a good pocket QB. He was only a threat when he could run, but he got injured and now he is a bad 1-dimensional QB. I can name 5 backups that are better than him in his current state.

He has a higher career QB rating than Andrew Luck. 90.6 qb rating, 40 tds, 23 ints. Yea, he's not capable of playing in the NFL. Lmao. Some peoples kids.

chitownbears22 · 08-21-2015, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pgisback

Lmao, 20 tds and 18 ints for a qb with no offensive line. Plus the NFL didn't figure him out. He had a knee brace on and couldn't even run. You must not watch much football.

Washington last year:

McCoy/Cousins: 2.7 sacks per game
RGIII: 4.7 sacks per game

Those are facts. Why does the Wash OL only suck when RGIII is in the game? Is it because of what I posted in post #16 in this thread? The answer is yes. The reason RGIII gets sacked, is because he sucks in the pocket and is too slow to make decisions. He makes poor pre-snap reads, he steps into pressure, he doesn't keep his eyes down the field during the play, etc. If you hold the ball for longer than 3 seconds in the NFL, no matter who you have on your OL, you are going to get killed.

I am sure the next thing you will do is blame the WRs, if that is what you are going to do I cannot help you unless you have access for 22-film. You would be appalled how many open shots he misses because he is not looking.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...skins-offense/

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...214738329.html

Robert Griffin is trash, and that is because of him, not the people around him. You sound like his dad/handler.

08-20-2015, 07:26 PM	#2
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08-20-2015, 07:29 PM	#3
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SPCRD Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Winston Salem NC Posts: 1,965 dmox01 SPCRD	I'm a huge Cowboys fan and hate Redskins but I want to actually see him show everyone he is good.. But I don't think any QB would want to be behind the Redskins o-line.. Guess everyone will blame RG3 again lol __________________ http://s885.photobucket.com/user/APandCowboysFan/library/?sort=6&page=1

08-20-2015, 07:35 PM	#6
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08-20-2015, 07:24 PM	#1
jason122883 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 20,315 jason122883 jason122883	RG3 down again Not sure how serious, didnt look bad. Has been lying on the ground for the last few minutes __________________ If you can not ship within 48 hours, please let me know before I pay

08-20-2015, 07:37 PM	#7
armyatc22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Who knows Posts: 22,041 armyatc22	Right side stinger lol

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oaklandasfan Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: manhattan n,y.congers ny Posts: 1,013 oarmjrcards44 oaklandasfan	but he said hes the best qb in the nfl

08-21-2015, 03:57 AM	#16
chitownbears22 Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 8,689	Did anyone actually watch him play? He held the ball for far too long all game. There is a reason why he is getting hit constantly. The broadcasters kept blaming the OL (who played decently, but not great). You are going to get sacked 60 times a year if your play progression is: 1. Snap 2. Step back 3. Lift head and read the field (that is right, he is not reading the coverage when dropping back LOL) 4. First read not available, attempt second read while figuring out where to run, oh there is the open man. SACK or hit while throwing!!!! The guy has 3 seconds to throw on almost every play without getting hit or pressured. That is plenty of time to get the ball out of your hands. The second problem is that he step up into a broken pocket. Why the hell are you getting closer to the defenders as protection breaks down (natural event in a long duration play). Then Colt McCoy steps on the field and he makes the correct pre-snap read and gets rid of the ball quick. He is not special, but he also doesn't take a beating...

08-21-2015, 04:09 AM	#19
pgisback Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Seattle Posts: 21,023	RG3 has a higher career passer rating than Andrew Luck. 40 tds and only 23 ints, those are not numbers of a qb that cannot play in the NFL. The dude can play qb as long as hes healthy. The Redskins have far more issues than RG3.