The curious case of Joey Gallo

rexvos · 05-24-2017, 08:56 AM

I am a Rangers fan. I do not collect many Rangers but I follow the team. Gallo I said an enigma to me. He is young and has a ton of power with the ability to hit tape measure shots into the Arlington night. His first game up a couple of years ago he hit two absolute bombs. The fans went nuts and a Gallo craze started. Then they saw the other side of Gallo. Strikeouts after strikeout especially against lefties. Most of the last two seasons prior to this one he has spent in the minors working on this supposedly. Now with the Beltre injury he has been playing everyday with the big club and has blasted 14 homers while still hitting below the Mendoza line. As much as fans dig the long ball many have turned on him and cannot wait to move him for something if the team is not a contender. I was at his first few games and started a small collection of his RCs. Nothing too crazy. All of these are self subbed and have not subbed any additional since the end of 2015. I with most other Ranger fans will continue to play the wait and see game with him. Well all that being said. Let's hope he leads the AL in homers and can get his average up to Rob Deer levels.

Scans moved to last post because photobucket sucks

packman80 · 05-24-2017, 09:01 AM

I wonder if his K rate was the reason the Brewers did not want him last year in the trade for Lucroy and instead went Brinson as the big part of the package they got.

griffan15 · 05-24-2017, 09:01 AM

Mark Reynolds......sell if you can.

rexvos · 05-24-2017, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by griffan15

Mark Reynolds......sell if you can.

Not much invested here. No Bowman Chrome autos or the like. If I was invested I would have gone that route. I am hoping as a Ranger fan he can continue to develop. He is drawing much more walks this year but as you can see still a ton of Ks

Hallco · 05-24-2017, 09:33 AM

Bump for a Rob Deer reference!

CoolG · 05-24-2017, 09:36 AM

Bump for Adam Dunn 2.0

mouschi · 05-24-2017, 09:36 AM

I hope he does well! He shares the August 2015 Beckett cover (and Beckett baseball card) with me. I never think of him being on it, even though he takes up the vast majority of the cover.

base set · 05-24-2017, 09:37 AM

He should lay down a bunt; make someone besides the Catcher have to handle the baseball.

slugger82685 · 05-24-2017, 09:38 AM

He is definitely an interesting case but fans who turn on him because of his strikeout rate probably haven't looked deeper into his stats. His power and ability to drive in runs makes him just as valuable as other power hitters in the league who have half his K rate. He has actually accumulated a WAR of 1.3 according to fangraphs (1.2 on Baseball ref) in the same neighborhood as guys like Cruz and Stanton. So people can hate on him for his Ks all they want, but that means they don't truly understand his value. If does happen to decrease his Ks down the road then he will be an absolute beast.

Peties Army · 05-24-2017, 10:12 AM

10 years ago his cards would have skyrocketed once he started hitting HRs. Fans and collectors are smarter now. I get people saying Mark Reynolds, but I see Adam Dunn. Maybe not as many HRs(people forget how good Dunn was at doing that one thing) but seasons like that.

rangersfan17 · 05-24-2017, 10:18 AM

I'm also a big Rangers fan and don't have much invested in him, but I'd be selling as well. I hope he proves me wrong though!

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SamHill · 05-24-2017, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CoolG

Bump for Adam Dunn 2.0

Gallo's defense at a premium position ruins that comparison.

BGT Masters · 05-24-2017, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Peties Army

10 years ago his cards would have skyrocketed once he started hitting HRs. Fans and collectors are smarter now. I get people saying Mark Reynolds, but I see Adam Dunn. Maybe not as many HRs(people forget how good Dunn was at doing that one thing) but seasons like that.

Adam Dunn also walked a lot which helped his OBP. One year he led the league in walks and strikeouts if I remember correctly. Still wish he would have stuck around just to get to 500.

Peties Army · 05-24-2017, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SamHill

Gallo's defense at a premium position ruins that comparison.

Not sure he stays at 3B

SamHill · 05-24-2017, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Peties Army

Not sure he stays at 3B

If he moves, its because Beltre came back. He's got a cannon for an arm and moves very well for a big man.

theflushingmets · 05-24-2017, 10:26 AM

Bump for Russell branyan 2.0 reference

Peties Army · 05-24-2017, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SamHill

If he moves, its because Beltre came back. He's got a cannon for an arm and moves very well for a big man.

Thought there was already talk of him moving to left.

Either way, I think we are in the same boat on his power.

To me he is the kind of guy who, on a contending team, can be your 5th hitter and you would be pleased with that.

CoolG · 05-24-2017, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SamHill

Gallo's defense at a premium position ruins that comparison.

Dunn was a legit solid outfielder in his prime and moved better than Gallo.
If Gallo hits 462 career dingers he'll have a nice career

Kid has insane pop in his bat.

daeve · 05-24-2017, 11:26 AM

a 23-year-old with an ISO in the 300s is not someone I'm typically looking to sell...

GOWIFB · 05-24-2017, 11:42 AM

Can someone use this thread as an excuse to post a picture of the Joey Gallo dog chewed card? I am sure someone must still have that around. Maybe if Gallo becomes good the card may go up $5 in value.

jstasyk1121 · 05-24-2017, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolG

Bump for Adam Dunn 2.0

he has a ways to go to get to be as good of a hitter that Dunn was...

from 04-10 Dunn had a respectable .253avg....an very good .381obp....and his ops was .914 which is damn good for a 7yr stretch...he averaged like 180k a year for those years...but also avg over 100bb per year....

Gallo so far this year...hitting .193...21bb with 64k already...in 145AB...like 45% k-rate...shockingly high...another shocker...it actually IMPROVES his career rate to this point...he is sitting at over 50% k-rate for his career so far...140k/278at bat...

his obp is .308 so far...

so yea he hits homers...but Dunn was a surefire HOF compared to what Gallo is to this point...

Gallo is Dunn at the end of his career...he is nowhere near as good as Dunn was at his best...

goldeneye2131 · 05-24-2017, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by griffan15

Mark Reynolds......sell if you can.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolG

Bump for Adam Dunn 2.0

Hey now... let's not leave out Chris Davis. He posted his highest Ks last year and is on pace (neck-and-neck with Gallo) to break the record!

ThoseBackPages · 05-24-2017, 02:55 PM

More like Duda at third base

corockies · 05-24-2017, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by griffan15

Mark Reynolds......sell if you can.

You obviously haven't been watching Mark Reynolds turn himself into a complete player the past 2 years with the Rockies. His days of either striking out or hitting a home run are long behind him.

WJCIII · 05-24-2017, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

More like Duda at third base

Gallo is on pace for 49 HR and 106 RBI. The Mets can only dream about Duda putting up those kind of numbers and would gladly take the .193 average in exchange for the power.

At this point Gallo is the most exciting and dangerous .193 hitter in the history of the game and if he can get his average up to even .225 he has a legit shot at 50 HR's as a 23 year old.

05-24-2017, 08:56 AM	#1
rexvos Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 773 rattay13	The curious case of Joey Gallo I am a Rangers fan. I do not collect many Rangers but I follow the team. Gallo I said an enigma to me. He is young and has a ton of power with the ability to hit tape measure shots into the Arlington night. His first game up a couple of years ago he hit two absolute bombs. The fans went nuts and a Gallo craze started. Then they saw the other side of Gallo. Strikeouts after strikeout especially against lefties. Most of the last two seasons prior to this one he has spent in the minors working on this supposedly. Now with the Beltre injury he has been playing everyday with the big club and has blasted 14 homers while still hitting below the Mendoza line. As much as fans dig the long ball many have turned on him and cannot wait to move him for something if the team is not a contender. I was at his first few games and started a small collection of his RCs. Nothing too crazy. All of these are self subbed and have not subbed any additional since the end of 2015. I with most other Ranger fans will continue to play the wait and see game with him. Well all that being said. Let's hope he leads the AL in homers and can get his average up to Rob Deer levels. Scans moved to last post because photobucket sucks __________________ Collecting PSA Graded RCs Last edited by rexvos; 11-27-2017 at 02:19 PM.

05-24-2017, 09:36 AM	#7
mouschi Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Swimming in a million cards Posts: 9,649 tnhjones	I hope he does well! He shares the August 2015 Beckett cover (and Beckett baseball card) with me. I never think of him being on it, even though he takes up the vast majority of the cover. __________________ Tanner Jones, Author of Confessions of a Baseball Card Addict

05-24-2017, 09:38 AM	#9
slugger82685 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Valencia, CA Posts: 5,452 happyjubjub slugger82685	He is definitely an interesting case but fans who turn on him because of his strikeout rate probably haven't looked deeper into his stats. His power and ability to drive in runs makes him just as valuable as other power hitters in the league who have half his K rate. He has actually accumulated a WAR of 1.3 according to fangraphs (1.2 on Baseball ref) in the same neighborhood as guys like Cruz and Stanton. So people can hate on him for his Ks all they want, but that means they don't truly understand his value. If does happen to decrease his Ks down the road then he will be an absolute beast. __________________ Follow case breaks split between myself and Bluejet66: @splitcases

05-24-2017, 10:12 AM	#10
Peties Army Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 19,451 buddywilshire2003	10 years ago his cards would have skyrocketed once he started hitting HRs. Fans and collectors are smarter now. I get people saying Mark Reynolds, but I see Adam Dunn. Maybe not as many HRs(people forget how good Dunn was at doing that one thing) but seasons like that. __________________ Comment of the day “How many bees are killed by mowing?”- Boo

05-24-2017, 10:18 AM	#11
rangersfan17 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 490 suzrm125	I'm also a big Rangers fan and don't have much invested in him, but I'd be selling as well. I hope he proves me wrong though! Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk __________________ Former Arkansas Razorbacks Heritage Action Variations Baseball HoF Rookie PSA https://www.instagram.com/hogs_and_hofs/

05-24-2017, 09:01 AM	#2
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 17,029	I wonder if his K rate was the reason the Brewers did not want him last year in the trade for Lucroy and instead went Brinson as the big part of the package they got.

05-24-2017, 09:01 AM	#3
griffan15 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 7,528 griffan15	Mark Reynolds......sell if you can.

05-24-2017, 09:33 AM	#5
Hallco Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 7,777 hallco	Bump for a Rob Deer reference!

05-24-2017, 09:36 AM	#6
CoolG Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 2,033	Bump for Adam Dunn 2.0

05-24-2017, 09:37 AM	#8
base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 9,428	He should lay down a bunt; make someone besides the Catcher have to handle the baseball.

05-24-2017, 10:26 AM	#16
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05-24-2017, 11:26 AM	#19
daeve Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: savannah GA Posts: 13,142 accrules	a 23-year-old with an ISO in the 300s is not someone I'm typically looking to sell...

05-24-2017, 11:42 AM	#20
GOWIFB Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 5,825	Can someone use this thread as an excuse to post a picture of the Joey Gallo dog chewed card? I am sure someone must still have that around. Maybe if Gallo becomes good the card may go up $5 in value. __________________ Collecting 2007 Sweet Spot Classic Patches and anything Wisconsin! My photobucket: http://s451.photobucket.com/albums/qq239/GOWIFB/

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