Box break : 86-87 Fleer

JWBlue · 07-28-2017, 01:00 AM

$2K per pack.

36 packs with usually 3-4 MJs per box. 1 in 9 or 1 in 12 shot of hitting it big.

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...se-finds-nscc/

regularp · 07-28-2017, 03:28 AM

$2K a pack?

You could buy a PSA 8 Jordan for that and still have change.

Rickey · 07-28-2017, 03:54 AM

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MJGOAT23 · 07-28-2017, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rickey

I doubt the break sells out, even with all the free press.
For the price of just over 1 1/2 packs, a recent pickup.

This is likely best case scenario. Too much of a gamble!

great, great 9. congrats!

Jasondr91 · 07-28-2017, 07:11 AM

Wow......the ONLY guy I'm concernec with here......is the dude who originally sold the sealed case, and the 7 boxes. I hope he was paid heavenly. He was the one with the foresight to not open the remaining boxes, and to keep the 87/88 case sealed for 30 years.

I understand they already sold the sealed case.....so there's tons of profit being made.....

These boxes are easily found online now and the back story is attached to them.

JWBlue · 07-28-2017, 08:16 AM

There is a 86-87 Fleer box BBCE wrapped at the National Sportscard Convention that has a pack with a MJ showing.

Has anyone seen that?

I don't collect hoops cards but if I had money to burn I would buy it.

$79K I think.

jbarnett83 · 07-28-2017, 09:10 AM

So basically if you are able to get 3 Jordan psa 10s it still wouldn't pay for the box

In saying that I really hope someone records the box break

gomiamigo · 07-28-2017, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBlue

There is a 86-87 Fleer box BBCE wrapped at the National Sportscard Convention that has a pack with a MJ showing.

Has anyone seen that?

I don't collect hoops cards but if I had money to burn I would buy it.

$79K I think.

One went at auction a few months ago for like $36k, definitely less than $40k from one of the major auction houses.

dasiegel · 07-28-2017, 10:32 AM

I think these packs are silly if you can get the hit you want for less. Almost never are you pulling 10s from a pack of this era. 8s and 9s aren't worth the tag.

Deadshot · 07-28-2017, 11:01 AM

I think it's silly but there's probably a market for people who want to "pull" the card themselves. The sad thing is, they won't even really get to do that.

Jblaw1 · 07-28-2017, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gomiamigo

One went at auction a few months ago for like $36k, definitely less than $40k from one of the major auction houses.

Wasn't that box a Frankenstein with packs from several boxes mixed in? Would explain the big discepency. .

DalliLlama11 · 07-28-2017, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWBlue

There is a 86-87 Fleer box BBCE wrapped at the National Sportscard Convention that has a pack with a MJ showing.

Has anyone seen that?

I don't collect hoops cards but if I had money to burn I would buy it.

$79K I think.

It sold, had a sign on it when I saw it earlier today.

carl2001 · 07-28-2017, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickey

I doubt the break sells out, even with all the free press.
For the price of just over 1 1/2 packs, a recent pickup.

This is likely best case scenario. Too much of a gamble!

That looks sharp

MJGOAT23 · 07-29-2017, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jblaw1

Wasn't that box a Frankenstein with packs from several boxes mixed in? Would explain the big discepency. .

indeed it was a frankenbox....

JWBlue · 07-29-2017, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MJGOAT23

indeed it was a frankenbox....

I wonder if they buyer knew that?

How was it known it was a Frankenstein box?

MJGOAT23 · 07-29-2017, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBlue

I wonder if they buyer knew that?

How was it known it was a Frankenstein box?

I think it was accompanied by a letter from BBCE and also described as a "36 pack box" on the wrapper, not a full box. I wrote this elsewhere too, but in theory, someone with the collation sequence could have sniped the Jordan RC packs out, then replaced them with non Jordan packs, but with the appropriate stickers showing on the back to show the appearance of even distribution across 36 packs. Its possible that that box has ZERO #57's

BruinsFan1990 · 07-29-2017, 08:21 PM

Is there a link to this break?

JWBlue · 07-29-2017, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BruinsFan1990

Is there a link to this break?

Good question. I wouldn't mind watching it.

Starman101 · 07-29-2017, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dasiegel

I think these packs are silly if you can get the hit you want for less. Almost never are you pulling 10s from a pack of this era. 8s and 9s aren't worth the tag.

Spot on agree

Smart man

pingbling23 · 07-29-2017, 11:30 PM

How much would it cost to send all the cards pulled to get graded?

chugga15 · 07-29-2017, 11:36 PM

If anything, this type of break and this type of thread show the two extremes of the hobby. On one side lies the irrational gamblers who spend obscene amounts of money to experience their "rush". To these individuals, breaking loose packs is an addiction. At the other end of the spectrum there are rational investors who purchase known cards at known grades. Rational investors might not get the endorphin and epinephrine rush gamblers get, but they also don't experience the extreme lows of collecting and wasted money.

I think most "collectors" sit in the middle of these two extremes.

6celtics33 · 07-29-2017, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chugga15

If anything, this type of break and this type of thread show the two extremes of the hobby. On one side lies the irrational gamblers who spend obscene amounts of money to experience their "rush". To these individuals, breaking loose packs is an addiction. At the other end of the spectrum there are rational investors who purchase known cards at known grades. Rational investors might not get the endorphin and epinephrine rush gamblers get, but they also don't experience the extreme lows of collecting and wasted money.

I think most "collectors" sit in the middle of these two extremes.

Phil Ivey said the next best thing to winning big is losing big. He said he likes to lose so much that his stomach hurts. Maybe that applies somewhat to these card gamblers.

chugga15 · 07-30-2017, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Phil Ivey said the next best thing to winning big is losing big. He said he likes to lose so much that his stomach hurts. Maybe that applies somewhat to these card gamblers.

Fortunately for Phil Ivey, he won big more times then he lost big. Breaking sports cards do not give you the same odds. If Phil Ivey used that same methodology in this hobby, then he would be Nil Ivey very quickly.

6celtics33 · 07-30-2017, 12:24 AM

Oh I know, I'm just saying that rush delivers the chemicals win or lose

chugga15 · 07-30-2017, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Oh I know, I'm just saying that rush delivers the chemicals win or lose

That is probably true. A person wouldn't constantly gamble if they didn't have some "good" chemical reaction.

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Deadshot Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 7,694	I think it's silly but there's probably a market for people who want to "pull" the card themselves. The sad thing is, they won't even really get to do that. __________________ He said he name was “E”, so I introduced myself as “G”...The license plate said “IMNBITZ” or “IMNBISZ” or something. - G YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPuD3WYJ0rkpLqDdyavC2WA

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regularp Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,160	$2K a pack? You could buy a PSA 8 Jordan for that and still have change.

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Jasondr91 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Behind the Pokemon cards at WalMart Posts: 4,549 Jasondr91	Wow......the ONLY guy I'm concernec with here......is the dude who originally sold the sealed case, and the 7 boxes. I hope he was paid heavenly. He was the one with the foresight to not open the remaining boxes, and to keep the 87/88 case sealed for 30 years. I understand they already sold the sealed case.....so there's tons of profit being made..... These boxes are easily found online now and the back story is attached to them. __________________ Still collecting certain Aleksandaя "Sasha" Pavlovic items since 2004. "The United States has become a place where professional athletes and entertainers are mistaken for people of importance." - Robert Heinlein

07-28-2017, 08:16 AM	#6
JWBlue Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,516	There is a 86-87 Fleer box BBCE wrapped at the National Sportscard Convention that has a pack with a MJ showing. Has anyone seen that? I don't collect hoops cards but if I had money to burn I would buy it. $79K I think.

07-29-2017, 08:21 PM	#17
BruinsFan1990 Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 983	Is there a link to this break?

07-29-2017, 11:30 PM	#20
pingbling23 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 15,948 pingbling23	How much would it cost to send all the cards pulled to get graded?

07-29-2017, 11:36 PM	#21
chugga15 Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 863	If anything, this type of break and this type of thread show the two extremes of the hobby. On one side lies the irrational gamblers who spend obscene amounts of money to experience their "rush". To these individuals, breaking loose packs is an addiction. At the other end of the spectrum there are rational investors who purchase known cards at known grades. Rational investors might not get the endorphin and epinephrine rush gamblers get, but they also don't experience the extreme lows of collecting and wasted money. I think most "collectors" sit in the middle of these two extremes. __________________ “If you want to walk the heavenly streets of gold, you gotta know the password, “Roll, Tide, Roll!” - Bear Bryant

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6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,271	Oh I know, I'm just saying that rush delivers the chemicals win or lose