Storage unit find - need autograph help

rob80 · 08-13-2017, 11:49 AM

Was working with a guy that does the whole storage unit thing and he came across a ton of sports cards. There was a lot of auto'd stuff from the Mariners (local team) that all looked good to me. The rest of the autos I have no experience with and was wondering what you guys thought. Real or fake? NFS I should add, just wondering if any of them are worth taking a shot at sending out to PSA DNA

Here are some more of the autos

(stack of 30+ of the same Griffey)

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HeritageKing · 08-13-2017, 11:53 AM

The Jeter's look funny. Mays sig looks nothing like that now, but that may have been how hd used to sign.

The K's in Koufax don't match at all.

PoPCulture · 08-13-2017, 11:56 AM

I've had 2 authenticated Mays' autos over the last 20 years and they look nothing like that. I have nothing to compare to though of his early career sig.

Master Shake · 08-13-2017, 11:58 AM

I think the Mays might be secretarial. I'm leaning toward good on the Jeter's. Koufax not sure but don't look right.

mrchipz · 08-13-2017, 11:58 AM

i can tell you 100% certain the jeters are fake. i have owned over 100 jeter certified autos in the past 20 years and those are fake.
he never curls up the 2 huge curls in his sig they kinda just slant done and the e at the end of jeter is wrong as well. they are good forgeries but just that, forgeries.
i dont know enough about mays or koufax to make a opinion but usually if one is bad they all are when coming form the same lot.
send them to psa. you never know what them. i have had them say plenty of times that autos i knew for a fact were real they said were fake.
all we can do is give an opinion and im 99.9% sure those jeters are fake, i wouldnt certify them if i did that.

dashcol · 08-13-2017, 11:59 AM

To my untrained eye, the 1959 Koufax looks good but the Superstar card looks fake as heck.

Mays I unfortunately have very little experience with seeing in person, but those would have to be VERY early Autos if they are legit. They are no where near recent autos.

As for Jeter, they show similarities to early Jeter Autos, but neither of them actually look right. The Derek looks close with the second being closer. It's the Jeter part that is throwing me off, the R at the end looks very wrong on both, and the center loop that comes back around the J and then loops down that far just doesn't fit. I would say both those are not real, but it could also be a version of his from when he was developing his signature into what it is now. It would have to be a 93/94 signature but even then I don't know.

corndog · 08-13-2017, 12:01 PM

Just looking at the two Koufax signatures:
The "S" and the "K" are not even close to each other. They look as if they were signed by two different people. Once you see obvious discrepancies in several signatures I would have doubts on the rest as well.

KeithandDJ · 08-13-2017, 12:05 PM

Mays are fake. Never seen an auto of his on a card where u could actually make out the name. The first letter should not be rounded should look like a "4". Must have done those right after the Jeter!

rob80 · 08-13-2017, 12:39 PM

Thanks for the feedback. I pretty much figured most of the cards would be non-authentic. The Griffey photos look OK to me, but then again I could be wrong.

Added some more photos of the autos found

KeithandDJ · 08-13-2017, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeithandDJ

Mays are fake. Never seen an auto of his on a card where u could actually make out the name. The first letter should not be rounded should look like a "4". Must have done those right after the Jeter!

http://www.djshouseofcards-comics.co...MaysWMBGS.jpeg

Here's one I have. Pretty similar from 70s to 2010, much shakier since then.

marl1220 · 08-13-2017, 12:56 PM

The 163 Koufax looks off. The "K" is not right.

dashcol · 08-13-2017, 01:01 PM

I would say no to the Mick, absolutely not to the Griff and laugh at Joe. Sorry to have to tell your friend looking like he bought a scammers storage unit.

It is very rare to find a storage unit filled with stuff like this that is legit. Look at how much money would be sitting there in just what you have posted you have to think these things go for auction when people don't pay for their unit for several months, depending on the state. someone who would have that many legitimate high end autos would know what they have, most would keep them somewhere where they are not subjected to poor conditions. They would also go to the unit and pull all of this stuff out of it when they decided to stop paying for the unit.

Again this is most likely a scammers unit that wanted a quick way to get himself away from all this stuff.

Skipscards · 08-13-2017, 02:41 PM

Here are some examples of early Mays. His signature has changed now and then:

This one is from 1962:

yankee4jc · 08-13-2017, 02:44 PM

I say if you don't have a lot : roll the dice on one of each and then you know

rob80 · 08-13-2017, 03:00 PM

I will probably roll the dice on one of the Mays, maybe one of the Jeters.

coltsnsox07 · 08-13-2017, 03:43 PM

Looks like Operation Bullpen leftovers..

7nohitter · 08-13-2017, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob80

I will probably roll the dice on one of the Mays, maybe one of the Jeters.

Don't, they're not good.

Here is my 61 Mays

rman112 · 08-13-2017, 04:04 PM

Yeah, these do not look good.

Afton9444 · 08-13-2017, 04:41 PM

They all look fake to me. Would love to see the results of you send them in

unclemonkey · 08-13-2017, 05:03 PM

Everyone laughed at my Michael Jordan autograph that I found in a storage locker and it turned out to be legit. Don't give up hope yet do some research

bustin_knuckles · 08-13-2017, 05:59 PM

The same was said about a Ripken signed index I have. Then I was advised to talk to someone that only authenticates Ripken. Found out it was signed prior to him making the majors and that's why it didn't match up with sigs that are posted. Maybe send a one or 2 in and if they come back authentic send in more

7nohitter · 08-13-2017, 06:19 PM

All of those Mays' are well-known secretarials.

poppincurbs · 08-13-2017, 06:27 PM

The Mantle is 100% fake and the Joe D was signed by his sister. The Mays/Koufax do not look right to me at all.

bandb823 · 08-13-2017, 07:02 PM

Here is my in-person Derek Jeter autograph authenticated by Global Authentics. It looks similar to yours.

2017-08-13_04-47-16

Craiggysanford · 08-13-2017, 07:12 PM

I would just spend the money and send every card to PSA/DNA. you've prob spent more money on a nice dinner and pooped it out the next day then you'd lose if every single one comes back as nonauthentic.

08-13-2017, 11:49 AM	#1
rob80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 758 dj-relik	Storage unit find - need autograph help Was working with a guy that does the whole storage unit thing and he came across a ton of sports cards. There was a lot of auto'd stuff from the Mariners (local team) that all looked good to me. The rest of the autos I have no experience with and was wondering what you guys thought. Real or fake? NFS I should add, just wondering if any of them are worth taking a shot at sending out to PSA DNA Here are some more of the autos (stack of 30+ of the same Griffey) [/url] __________________ Wants: Comics ( Keys, CGC, Artgerm/Parillo/Mattina/Dell'Otto covers) Check my eBay, tons more listed there. Last edited by rob80; 08-13-2017 at 12:37 PM.

08-13-2017, 11:53 AM	#2
HeritageKing Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,616	The Jeter's look funny. Mays sig looks nothing like that now, but that may have been how hd used to sign. The K's in Koufax don't match at all. __________________ #2 Topps Heritage Autograph Collector

08-13-2017, 11:56 AM	#3
PoPCulture Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: In the Goldilocks Zone Posts: 8,599	I've had 2 authenticated Mays' autos over the last 20 years and they look nothing like that. I have nothing to compare to though of his early career sig. __________________ Short Print

08-13-2017, 11:59 AM	#6
dashcol Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: It's complicated Posts: 7,710	To my untrained eye, the 1959 Koufax looks good but the Superstar card looks fake as heck. Mays I unfortunately have very little experience with seeing in person, but those would have to be VERY early Autos if they are legit. They are no where near recent autos. As for Jeter, they show similarities to early Jeter Autos, but neither of them actually look right. The Derek looks close with the second being closer. It's the Jeter part that is throwing me off, the R at the end looks very wrong on both, and the center loop that comes back around the J and then loops down that far just doesn't fit. I would say both those are not real, but it could also be a version of his from when he was developing his signature into what it is now. It would have to be a 93/94 signature but even then I don't know. __________________ “A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives.” Jackie Robinson “Never let your head hang down. Never give up and sit down and grieve. Find another way.” Satchel Paige.

08-13-2017, 12:01 PM	#7
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 17,782	Just looking at the two Koufax signatures: The "S" and the "K" are not even close to each other. They look as if they were signed by two different people. Once you see obvious discrepancies in several signatures I would have doubts on the rest as well. __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

08-13-2017, 11:58 AM	#4
Master Shake Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,115 mastershaketoyou	I think the Mays might be secretarial. I'm leaning toward good on the Jeter's. Koufax not sure but don't look right.

08-13-2017, 11:58 AM	#5
mrchipz Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,804	i can tell you 100% certain the jeters are fake. i have owned over 100 jeter certified autos in the past 20 years and those are fake. he never curls up the 2 huge curls in his sig they kinda just slant done and the e at the end of jeter is wrong as well. they are good forgeries but just that, forgeries. i dont know enough about mays or koufax to make a opinion but usually if one is bad they all are when coming form the same lot. send them to psa. you never know what them. i have had them say plenty of times that autos i knew for a fact were real they said were fake. all we can do is give an opinion and im 99.9% sure those jeters are fake, i wouldnt certify them if i did that.

08-13-2017, 12:05 PM	#8
KeithandDJ Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Minnesota Posts: 223 Djscardscomics	Mays are fake. Never seen an auto of his on a card where u could actually make out the name. The first letter should not be rounded should look like a "4". Must have done those right after the Jeter!

08-13-2017, 12:39 PM	#9
rob80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 758 dj-relik	Thanks for the feedback. I pretty much figured most of the cards would be non-authentic. The Griffey photos look OK to me, but then again I could be wrong. Added some more photos of the autos found __________________ Wants: Comics ( Keys, CGC, Artgerm/Parillo/Mattina/Dell'Otto covers) Check my eBay, tons more listed there.

08-13-2017, 12:56 PM	#11
marl1220 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 9,739	The 163 Koufax looks off. The "K" is not right.

08-13-2017, 01:01 PM	#12
dashcol Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: It's complicated Posts: 7,710	I would say no to the Mick, absolutely not to the Griff and laugh at Joe. Sorry to have to tell your friend looking like he bought a scammers storage unit. It is very rare to find a storage unit filled with stuff like this that is legit. Look at how much money would be sitting there in just what you have posted you have to think these things go for auction when people don't pay for their unit for several months, depending on the state. someone who would have that many legitimate high end autos would know what they have, most would keep them somewhere where they are not subjected to poor conditions. They would also go to the unit and pull all of this stuff out of it when they decided to stop paying for the unit. Again this is most likely a scammers unit that wanted a quick way to get himself away from all this stuff. __________________ “A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives.” Jackie Robinson “Never let your head hang down. Never give up and sit down and grieve. Find another way.” Satchel Paige.

08-13-2017, 02:41 PM	#13
Skipscards Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: In Tribute To The Great Ryno Posts: 30,020 jlankf2 jmp4	Here are some examples of early Mays. His signature has changed now and then: This one is from 1962: __________________ Go Royals!! #RoyalsIn2015 <---It Happened!! #TEAMZinck Sometimes it is astounding that we are able to persist in a world so full of morons.

08-13-2017, 02:44 PM	#14
yankee4jc Banned - PBM Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 1,041	I say if you don't have a lot : roll the dice on one of each and then you know

08-13-2017, 03:00 PM	#15
rob80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 758 dj-relik	I will probably roll the dice on one of the Mays, maybe one of the Jeters. __________________ Wants: Comics ( Keys, CGC, Artgerm/Parillo/Mattina/Dell'Otto covers) Check my eBay, tons more listed there.

08-13-2017, 03:43 PM	#16
coltsnsox07 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 22,058	Looks like Operation Bullpen leftovers..

08-13-2017, 04:04 PM	#18
rman112 Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Freedom is Free Again Posts: 40,946	Yeah, these do not look good.

08-13-2017, 04:41 PM	#19
Afton9444 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: California Posts: 4,828 Afton9444	They all look fake to me. Would love to see the results of you send them in

08-13-2017, 05:03 PM	#20
unclemonkey Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,989	Everyone laughed at my Michael Jordan autograph that I found in a storage locker and it turned out to be legit. Don't give up hope yet do some research

08-13-2017, 05:59 PM	#21
bustin_knuckles Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 6	The same was said about a Ripken signed index I have. Then I was advised to talk to someone that only authenticates Ripken. Found out it was signed prior to him making the majors and that's why it didn't match up with sigs that are posted. Maybe send a one or 2 in and if they come back authentic send in more

08-13-2017, 06:19 PM	#22
7nohitter Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Central MA Posts: 2,191 7nohitter	All of those Mays' are well-known secretarials. __________________ Working on the 1957 set. Looking for the 2017 Bowman Reproduction ORANGE (#/25) Clayton Kershaw.

08-13-2017, 06:27 PM	#23
poppincurbs Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 3,758	The Mantle is 100% fake and the Joe D was signed by his sister. The Mays/Koufax do not look right to me at all. __________________ PC: Don Mattingly Prizm Golds /10

08-13-2017, 07:02 PM	#24
bandb823 Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 52 bandb823	This is a Jeter auto I got in person Here is my in-person Derek Jeter autograph authenticated by Global Authentics. It looks similar to yours. 2017-08-13_04-47-16 __________________ Yoenis Cespedes and San Francisco Giants collector

08-13-2017, 07:12 PM	#25
Craiggysanford Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern Vermont Posts: 7,180	I would just spend the money and send every card to PSA/DNA. you've prob spent more money on a nice dinner and pooped it out the next day then you'd lose if every single one comes back as nonauthentic.