After the eclipse watch American Greed on CNBC

whitesoxfan3579 · 08-20-2017, 07:31 PM

The rise and FALL of Mastro auctions is the focus of a new episode of American Greed on Monday, 8/21 at 10pm.

You may also remember Mastro admitted to the FBI that he trimmed the edges of the T206 Wagner...

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/18/that...rds-right.html

TheWrightStuff · 08-20-2017, 07:56 PM

Thanks for the heads up, set it to record

Crazybella8 · 08-20-2017, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by whitesoxfan3579

The rise and FALL of Mastro auctions is the focus of a new episode of American Greed on Monday, 8/21 at 10pm.

You may also remember Mastro admitted to the FBI that he trimmed the edges of the T206 Wagner...

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/18/that...rds-right.html

Just watched the 30 for 30 and it really surprises me how Maestro admitted to trimming the card and the grader from PSA still says in his opinion it wasn't trimmed.

blackbears86 · 08-21-2017, 07:25 AM

Looking forward to this......The DVR is set!!!!!!

blackbears86 · 08-21-2017, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazybella8

Just watched the 30 for 30 and it really surprises me how Maestro admitted to trimming the card and the grader from PSA still says in his opinion it wasn't trimmed.

I wonder if that grader is still working for PSA?

Dacubs · 08-21-2017, 07:29 AM

wow...I remember listening to them on the radio on Saturday mornings in Chicago....now the guy has someone from huggins on the show...

Crazybella8 · 08-21-2017, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbears86

I wonder if that grader is still working for PSA?

The grader was the founder of PSA according to the show.

blackbears86 · 08-21-2017, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazybella8

The grader was the founder of PSA according to the show.

Joe Orlando?

So the guy that trimmed the card admitted it was trimmed but The head grader said it wasn't???

That's crazy..........

csmtampa · 08-21-2017, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbears86

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Joe Orlando?

So the guy that trimmed the card admitted it was trimmed but The head grader said it wasn't???

That's crazy..........

Joe Orlando wasn't the founder. David Hall was the founder.

Crazybella8 · 08-21-2017, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbears86

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Joe Orlando?

So the guy that trimmed the card admitted it was trimmed but The head grader said it wasn't???

That's crazy..........

It was David Hall.

JMarchand1981 · 08-21-2017, 08:13 PM

American greed is a fantastic show

blackbears86 · 08-21-2017, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazybella8

It was David Hall.

Does he still work for them as a grader?

Chrisyork33 · 08-21-2017, 09:10 PM

Watching now. Thanks for the heads up!

ThoseBackPages · 08-21-2017, 09:12 PM

how was it?

jasonm2121 · 08-21-2017, 09:15 PM

Very interesting, did not know about this

rcmb3220 · 08-21-2017, 10:09 PM

Appears that none of the big three graders wanted anything to do with contributing to that show.

Branesergen · 08-21-2017, 10:12 PM

Yeah seems most of it was on his shilling and a blurb on the trimmed card towards the end.

jasonm2121 · 08-21-2017, 10:24 PM

So the Wagner was graded and not shown to be trimmed? That is nuts, especially for an already small card.

ArsonCuff · 08-21-2017, 10:30 PM

Seemed like the show had like 5-10 minutes of material, a lot of repeating and commercials.

jasonm2121 · 08-21-2017, 10:34 PM

The worst was listing items at a lower value (and winning their own auction) and then regrading them with PSA and selling them for much higher prices with the proper listing details.

texmcpherson · 08-21-2017, 10:44 PM

I knew Mastro was a douche, but he was even worse than I initially thought!

Chrisyork33 · 08-21-2017, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonm2121

The worst was listing items at a lower value (and winning their own auction) and then regrading them with PSA and selling them for much higher prices with the proper listing details.

Yeah, I thought that was the dirtiest move.

Anderdale · 08-22-2017, 12:21 AM

The extra innings pun. I died.

Crazybella8 · 08-22-2017, 12:28 AM

The 30 for 30 on ESPN is pretty good regarding the WAGNER. It doesn't amaze me that this stuff happens but it really screws with the hobby unnecessarily. Who can we trust in this hobby anymore?

ThoseBackPages · 08-22-2017, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazybella8

The 30 for 30 on ESPN is pretty good regarding the WAGNER. It doesn't amaze me that this stuff happens but it really screws with the hobby unnecessarily. Who can we trust in this hobby anymore?

DTA!!

08-20-2017, 07:31 PM	#1
whitesoxfan3579 Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 2,007 alaa6385-53jvwf	After the eclipse watch American Greed on CNBC The rise and FALL of Mastro auctions is the focus of a new episode of American Greed on Monday, 8/21 at 10pm. You may also remember Mastro admitted to the FBI that he trimmed the edges of the T206 Wagner... https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/18/that...rds-right.html

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Branesergen Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Montgomery Texas Posts: 6,901 Branesergen	Yeah seems most of it was on his shilling and a blurb on the trimmed card towards the end. __________________ I will never buy a used car. I knew this one guy who bought a used car once and 10 years later...BAM!...Herpes. Did you eat the whole bowl of stupid this morning??

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texmcpherson Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 15,948 texmcpherson	I knew Mastro was a douche, but he was even worse than I initially thought! __________________ *You can’t triple stamp a double stamp.*

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TheWrightStuff Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 6,824 Nathan104	Thanks for the heads up, set it to record

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blackbears86 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: maine Posts: 17,110 blackbears86	Looking forward to this......The DVR is set!!!!!!

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Dacubs Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 11,836 pharmkid97 pharmkid97	wow...I remember listening to them on the radio on Saturday mornings in Chicago....now the guy has someone from huggins on the show...

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JMarchand1981 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 34,438	American greed is a fantastic show

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Chrisyork33 Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 2,470 Chrius_kskvk42sh Chrisyork33	Watching now. Thanks for the heads up!

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jasonm2121 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: GOAT City Posts: 12,002	Very interesting, did not know about this

08-21-2017, 10:09 PM	#16
rcmb3220 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 4,136	Appears that none of the big three graders wanted anything to do with contributing to that show.

08-21-2017, 10:24 PM	#18
jasonm2121 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: GOAT City Posts: 12,002	So the Wagner was graded and not shown to be trimmed? That is nuts, especially for an already small card.

08-21-2017, 10:30 PM	#19
ArsonCuff Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 2,456 arsoncuff	Seemed like the show had like 5-10 minutes of material, a lot of repeating and commercials.

08-21-2017, 10:34 PM	#20
jasonm2121 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: GOAT City Posts: 12,002	The worst was listing items at a lower value (and winning their own auction) and then regrading them with PSA and selling them for much higher prices with the proper listing details.

08-22-2017, 12:21 AM	#23
Anderdale Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: GA Posts: 6,113 Anderdale2	The extra innings pun. I died.

08-22-2017, 12:28 AM	#24
Crazybella8 Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 2,174	The 30 for 30 on ESPN is pretty good regarding the WAGNER. It doesn't amaze me that this stuff happens but it really screws with the hobby unnecessarily. Who can we trust in this hobby anymore?