OMG, 40 Tom Brady RCs! How do I pick one?

[mef623]

Subtitled: When I was little, you got Topps, Donruss or Fleer and you ate the gum. None of this "Super-rookie-autographed-reflective-chrome" that kids these days are going for...

Okay, so I'm working my way back into the hobby after three decades on the sidelines. Man, things have changed.

In any case, instead of buying hundreds of packs and getting 17 Biff Pocoroba cards, I'm going to concentrate on fewer, higher-end cards.

One of the cards on the list is the Tom Brady rookie card. But how on Earth do I decide which one to get? Are there any that are considered "more legit" than the others? From what I can find online, the 2000 Playoff Contenders (regular, not championship ticket) and SP Authentic seem to have the best combination of value and popularity. That SP Authentic is a hideous-looking card, so that's off my list. The PC card seems to be $2,500 +/- with a 9 or better grade. That's kind of in range for me and is a nice-looking card.

The Bowman Chrome is also a nice-looking card.

Any other suggestions from people who know football cards better than I do? Thanks all.

Mike

[Siberian13]

I've wanted a Brady contenders for a while. No luck so far

[RogerGodahell]

You pretty much nailed it with your research. Those are the 2 cards to own. I only have the contenders right now. I intend to get more someday. The price of his cards have doubled since this time a year ago. Last year at this time you could have bought a BGS 9 contenders for around $1800 all day.

[twisty571]

If it's just 1 Tom Brady the Contenders would be most people's 1st choice. I sold my TB collection during the "Perfect Season" & made a lot. Bought me a Harley but would have made a lot more if I held on to them. Right now my top wants are cards I haven't owned yet. Score Rookie Roll Call /50 or Champ Ticket.

[Ottomatic]

Personally love the 2000 Leaf Certified.

[IronMonkey415]

<Walks in and sniff>

Nah...can't be.

[mrmojorisin71]

I love the ultimate victory /100

[Drdduet]

The Contenders is the card to own, IMO.

Other than that, the Bowman Chrome Refractor is a tough card, and the regular Bowman Chrome in a PSA 10 is a good one to have.

[mef623]

Thanks all, appreciate the advice.

Mike

[SirTommyWinAlot]

I love my SP Authentic Brady. I really really do. But man it would be nice to own a high grade playoff contenders championship ticket.

anyways I think the BGS 9 playoff contenders are at a good value.There are no 10's. I think you'd be getting in at a good price point. I don't have one yet but plan on getting one sooner rather than later.

[Bassplayah101]

My only advice is, whatever you do, better do it quick.
Some of his cards have doubled in value, as other people have mentioned, and the Pats are favorites to win it all again.
If that actually happens, alot of his cards are gonna take on the 'ole diamond ring slogan.. "only 3 months salary"

Edit: Almost forgot.. watch out for the high end ungraded (raw) ones. There ARE more than a few trimmed cards out there.
I would suggest that if you are buying a raw high end (spa, contenders) off Ebay, that you insist that the seller confirm the dimensions of the card.

You'll just have to trust me on this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/ericbr/Patriots%20Collection/20160701_1138181_zps7swka89e.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ericbr/media/Patriots%20Collection/20160701_1138181_zps7swka89e.jpg.html)

[altaeria]

Subtitled: When I was little, you got Topps, Donruss or Fleer and you ate the gum. None of this "Super-rookie-autographed-reflective-chrome" that kids these days are going for...

Okay, so I'm working my way back into the hobby after three decades on the sidelines. Man, things have changed.

In any case, instead of buying hundreds of packs and getting 17 Biff Pocoroba cards, I'm going to concentrate on fewer, higher-end cards.

One of the cards on the list is the Tom Brady rookie card. But how on Earth do I decide which one to get? Are there any that are considered "more legit" than the others? From what I can find online, the 2000 Playoff Contenders (regular, not championship ticket) and SP Authentic seem to have the best combination of value and popularity. That SP Authentic is a hideous-looking card, so that's off my list. The PC card seems to be $2,500 +/- with a 9 or better grade. That's kind of in range for me and is a nice-looking card.

The Bowman Chrome is also a nice-looking card.

Any other suggestions from people who know football cards better than I do? Thanks all.

Mike



So is it safe to assume you're probably not interested in buying my Tom Brady
Super-Rookie Autographed Reflective Chrome-Gold Prism Dual-Relic Rainbow Hologram Scratch'n'Sniff Retro Box-Bottom Anniversary Silver-Foil-Stamped 1/3 card ??

According to the Pop Report, the other two existing copies were waterlogged in basement floods and grade no better than 1.5 each.

Granted, mine only grades at an 8 ... but c'mon.
By this time next year, it'll still be valued higher than some small island countries.

:coffee:

[kdg1229]

The SPA is one of my favorites, I'm biased though cause i bought a box of SPA (yes took the shot) and in the last pack came a Brady rookie i was fregin floored. It'll forever be in my PC, while the Contenders is nice and obviously one of his more expensive cards. I went after some of the more rarer base rookies of his, if you check out ebay, you can always find a contenders for sale, but I like the Limited which I'm glad i picked up one 2 years ago, cause its hardly ever on the bay. The E-X rookie is another slightly cheaper card but i think its comparable to the Bowman chrome, has a similar refractor type look to it. Anyway, good luck on your venture, I'm about 30 rookies deep, always looking for more! I've attached a few pics of my favs.

[Bassplayah101]

The SPA is one of my favorites, I'm biased though cause i bought a box of SPA (yes took the shot) and in the last pack came a Brady rookie i was fregin floored. It'll forever be in my PC, while the Contenders is nice and obviously one of his more expensive cards. I went after some of the more rarer base rookies of his, if you check out ebay, you can always find a contenders for sale, but I like the Limited which I'm glad i picked up one 2 years ago, cause its hardly ever on the bay. The E-X rookie is another slightly cheaper card but i think its comparable to the Bowman chrome, has a similar refractor type look to it. Anyway, good luck on your venture, I'm about 30 rookies deep, always looking for more! I've attached a few pics of my favs.

Ive always liked the Leaf Limited myself, and could never figure out why it doesn't get more love in a monetary sense. Condition sensitive, numbered to 350 copies. It should be closer in line with the SPA when it comes to value.

here's mine..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/ericbr/Patriots%20Collection/bgsbrady3.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ericbr/media/Patriots%20Collection/bgsbrady3.jpg.html)

[mef623]

My only advice is, whatever you do, better do it quick.
Some of his cards have doubled in value, as other people have mentioned, and the Pats are favorites to win it all again.
If that actually happens, alot of his cards are gonna take on the 'ole diamond ring slogan.. "only 3 months salary"

Edit: Almost forgot.. watch out for the high end ungraded (raw) ones. There ARE more than a few trimmed cards out there.
I would suggest that if you are buying a raw high end (spa, contenders) off Ebay, that you insist that the seller confirm the dimensions of the card.

You'll just have to trust me on this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/ericbr/Patriots%20Collection/20160701_1138181_zps7swka89e.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ericbr/media/Patriots%20Collection/20160701_1138181_zps7swka89e.jpg.html)

Thanks! At this point, if I'm buying it online, I only get graded cards.

Ive always liked the Leaf Limited myself, and could never figure out why it doesn't get more love in a monetary sense. Condition sensitive, numbered to 350 copies. It should be closer in line with the SPA when it comes to value.

here's mine..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/ericbr/Patriots%20Collection/bgsbrady3.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ericbr/media/Patriots%20Collection/bgsbrady3.jpg.html)

That's a really nice-looking card. I'll add it to the list. Just looked it up on eBay, the only one they have is a PSA 10, $1,250.

Thanks for all the advice. You get a Tommy Point.

Mike

[bewareof94]

I always thought the Playoff Momentum is a very underrated RC, great design and only 750 copies. I was lucky enough to pull one about a year or so ago, but it's long gone...

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/football-box-breaks/890726-old-school-break-1-box-2000-playoff-momentum.html

[chipmaster]

I always thought the Playoff Momentum is a very underrated RC, great design and only 750 copies. I was lucky enough to pull one about a year or so ago, but it's long gone...

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/football-box-breaks/890726-old-school-break-1-box-2000-playoff-momentum.html

What did you get for it?

[BoxingRobes]

I like the SPA, SPX, Leaf Limited, and Bowman Chrome. Chrome looks great when its centering is on point. Looks terrible when its off.

[ksemmel]

Maybe I have a bias but people seem to sleep on his crown Royale autos...

[packerfan4200]

If it's gotta be an auto, contenders for sure. But for my money I'd rather have a bowman chrome refractor and a few other low #'d parallels such as E-X essential credentials or fleer ultra platinum medallion. Something along those lines. Plus those types of cards are hard to find making the hunt all the more enjoyable. Good luck whatever you decide and welcome back

[ThoseBackPages]

Gotta go auto!

http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af341/GradedRookieCards/Stuff/2012%20National/f1db6637.jpg

[BlowoutBuzz]

Pick the one you like and make it happen.

I think the only one I have left is Bowman Chrome. Got rid of all my other ones (low-end brands) in past.

[bewareof94]

What did you get for it?

Got $180 for it at the time

[kdg1229]

Based on sales since the suspension was upheld, the SPA has now surpassed the Contenders. In June you could get a psa 9 for around 3k, its now in the 4500 range, that's a crazy jump!

[Patriot12]

Subtitled: When I was little, you got Topps, Donruss or Fleer and you ate the gum. None of this "Super-rookie-autographed-reflective-chrome" that kids these days are going for...

Okay, so I'm working my way back into the hobby after three decades on the sidelines. Man, things have changed.

In any case, instead of buying hundreds of packs and getting 17 Biff Pocoroba cards, I'm going to concentrate on fewer, higher-end cards.

One of the cards on the list is the Tom Brady rookie card. But how on Earth do I decide which one to get? Are there any that are considered "more legit" than the others? From what I can find online, the 2000 Playoff Contenders (regular, not championship ticket) and SP Authentic seem to have the best combination of value and popularity. That SP Authentic is a hideous-looking card, so that's off my list. The PC card seems to be $2,500 +/- with a 9 or better grade. That's kind of in range for me and is a nice-looking card.

The Bowman Chrome is also a nice-looking card.

Any other suggestions from people who know football cards better than I do? Thanks all.

Mike

fortyfour TB12 RCs:doh::doh:

[jasonm2121]

Get them all

[Bassplayah101]

Get them all

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/ericbr/384_zpsnnes2fel.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ericbr/media/384_zpsnnes2fel.jpg.html)

[RogerGodahell]

fortyfour TB12 RCs:doh::doh:

That aint bad at all really. There's like 3000 cards of modern rookies.

[jasonm2121]

Getting them in top grade is the challenge and finance issue. You can get most in 8 or raw for reasonable prices

[phreak9]

Subtitled: When I was little, you got Topps, Donruss or Fleer and you ate the gum. None of this "Super-rookie-autographed-reflective-chrome" that kids these days are going for...

Okay, so I'm working my way back into the hobby after three decades on the sidelines. Man, things have changed.

In any case, instead of buying hundreds of packs and getting 17 Biff Pocoroba cards, I'm going to concentrate on fewer, higher-end cards.

One of the cards on the list is the Tom Brady rookie card. But how on Earth do I decide which one to get? Are there any that are considered "more legit" than the others? From what I can find online, the 2000 Playoff Contenders (regular, not championship ticket) and SP Authentic seem to have the best combination of value and popularity. That SP Authentic is a hideous-looking card, so that's off my list. The PC card seems to be $2,500 +/- with a 9 or better grade. That's kind of in range for me and is a nice-looking card.

The Bowman Chrome is also a nice-looking card.

Any other suggestions from people who know football cards better than I do? Thanks all.

Mike

Wait until he retires in 3 years. That and the cheater tag will result in prices being 30% lower. That cheater tag is for life after the suspension plus many Patriot fans are band wagoners who will move on to a different team.

[Umpy9]

Wait until he retires in 3 years. That and the cheater tag will result in prices being 30% lower. That cheater tag is for life after the suspension plus many Patriot fans are band wagoners who will move on to a different team.

HOF set collectors won't be any less rabid though.

[jasonm2121]

Wait until he retires in 3 years. That and the cheater tag will result in prices being 30% lower. That cheater tag is for life after the suspension plus many Patriot fans are band wagoners who will move on to a different team.

Not likely on top grade versions at all, nothing will change between now and then, whether you feel that way or not, the opinions are established and set already, in fact, prices have increased more since all of the allegations. Brady's spot in the hobby is solidified and will go up if he gets a 5th SB.

[Patriot12]

Wait until he retires in 3 years. That and the cheater tag will result in prices being 30% lower. That cheater tag is for life after the suspension plus many Patriot fans are band wagoners who will move on to a different team.

everybody cheats one way or another :p

[Patriot12]

Gotta go auto!

http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af341/GradedRookieCards/Stuff/2012%20National/f1db6637.jpg

Only two True Rookie autos. Contenders and the Pacific. (first 200 were signed)
:)!:)!

[jasonm2121]

I think what it comes down to is most feel Brady is the best and is more or less the Jordan of this hobby/sport. Love it or hate it, kinda how it is.

[Kingofkings1281]

Wait until he retires in 3 years. That and the cheater tag will result in prices being 30% lower. That cheater tag is for life after the suspension plus many Patriot fans are band wagoners who will move on to a different team.

I better sell my Championship Ticket now. Thank you, Nostradamus.

[Patriot12]

I better sell my Championship Ticket now. Thank you, Nostradamus.

ya me too!! and buy up twitches rc's (cutler):eek::eek:

[SirTommyWinAlot]

Not likely on top grade versions at all, nothing will change between now and then, whether you feel that way or not, the opinions are established and set already, in fact, prices have increased more since all of the allegations. Brady's spot in the hobby is solidified and will go up if he gets a 5th SB.

I agree. Money talks and all the money pouring into Brady's rookies resulting in a doubling of his spa psa 10's over the last half year says alot.

It's basically saying unequivocally that he's the GOAT.

[jasonm2121]

I agree. Money talks and all the money pouring into Brady's rookies resulting in a doubling of his spa psa 10's over the last half year says alot.

It's basically saying unequivocally that he's the GOAT.

Kind of funny how that statement was made but when Jerry Rice claimed he used glue on his gloves everyone said no problem, gotta love it. If you hate Brady you hate Brady and it all gave that camp a nice reason to lay on the hate against him. Ah well, prices will only go up because he is the best despite any controversy.

[rondior]

Wait until he retires in 3 years. That and the cheater tag will result in prices being 30% lower. That cheater tag is for life after the suspension plus many Patriot fans are band wagoners who will move on to a different team.

Barry Bonds type reasoning won't work here. Though many BB players took some enhanced products, only a handful of BB players abused steroids to the point of being able to lift up a small country like Bonds did back then. As soon as those guys stopped taking the Roids they stopped hitting home runs. Thus an asterisk is well deserved.

Brady on the other has played better since his balls are supposedly more inflated. Proving the amount of air in the balls has no relation to how good he is nor has it ever played a part in whether or not he has won or lost any games.

Tom Brady is the best QB to ever play this game based on talent, statistics and ability. You can love him or hate him but you can't argue with the fact that he is the GOAT.

Many claims have been made against Jordan too. True GOAT's will always have that in any sport.

[arkeeper]

Barry Bonds type reasoning won't work here. Though many BB players took some enhanced products, only a handful of BB players abused steroids to the point of being able to lift up a small country like Bonds did back then. As soon as those guys stopped taking the Roids they stopped hitting home runs. Thus an asterisk is well deserved.

Brady on the other has played better since his balls are supposedly more inflated. Proving the amount of air in the balls has no relation to how good he is nor has it ever played a part in whether or not he has won or lost any games.

Tom Brady is the best QB to ever play this game based on talent, statistics and ability. You can love him or hate him but you can't argue with the fact that he is the GOAT.

Many claims have been made against Jordan too. True GOAT's will always have that in any sport.

First post huh? :coffee:

[RogerGodahell]

Long time listener first time caller

[Grid]

None of this "Super-rookie-autographed-reflective-chrome" that kids these days are going for...



Tommy boy has plenty of "Super-rookie-autographed-reflective-chrome" type rookie cards out there.

You want shiny reflective take a look at his Pacific Prism, UD Ionix, Fleer EX, Ultimate Victory ETC.

You want Chrome, you can grab a Bowman Chrome for a decent price.

You want Super Rookie Autographed, Press Pass on the lower end and Contenders on the higher. Somewhere in the middle you can grab an Autographics.

Things are much more alike now compared to then than they are different.

[jasonm2121]

From the time this started his contenders has doubled

[rustyisin]

Ive always liked the Leaf Limited myself, and could never figure out why it doesn't get more love in a monetary sense. Condition sensitive, numbered to 350 copies. It should be closer in line with the SPA when it comes to value.

here's mine..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/ericbr/Patriots%20Collection/bgsbrady3.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ericbr/media/Patriots%20Collection/bgsbrady3.jpg.html)

Why should SP be same as Leaf Ltd if it has 3x the production?
Follow logic on this one and stay far clear of SP

[Prenticles]

Please, please don't turn this into a cheater thread.

Also Brady RCs are about as safe as you can get. They would only go down if he pulled an OJ

[rustyisin]

I agree. Money talks and all the money pouring into Brady's rookies resulting in a doubling of his spa psa 10's over the last half year says alot.

It's basically saying unequivocally that he's the GOAT.

What GOAT in any sport has ever won as few as 2 season MVP awards?
Brady = 2
Manning = 5

Gretzky = 9
Jordan = 5
Barry Bonds = 7
Tiger Woods = 11 (POY)

I beg to differ on Brady as GOAT

[Drdduet]

Outside of the Contenders and Bowman Chrome (the SPA I believe to be overpriced), I really like his Fleer Showcase and Fleer Showcase Prospects cards. Grab them when you can find them.

[ck6599]

What GOAT in any sport has ever won as few as 2 season MVP awards?
Brady = 2
Manning = 5

Gretzky = 9
Jordan = 5
Barry Bonds = 7
Tiger Woods = 11 (POY)

I beg to differ on Brady as GOAT

And yet Manning would trade any of those MVP's for more rings......MVP's don't mean a thing.......it's all about the rings.

[rustyisin]

And yet Manning would trade any of those MVP's for more rings......MVP's don't mean a thing.......it's all about the rings.

Yogi Berra has 10 rings, yet he isn't a GOAT.
I'm not talking about what Manning would trade the MVP awards for, I'm talking about which one is the GOAT

[Prenticles]

Please, please don't turn this into a cheater thread.

Also Brady RCs are about as safe as you can get. They would only go down if he pulled an OJ

Rephrase: Please do NOT turn this into a Brady vs. Manning thread

[rustyisin]

Rephrase: Please do NOT turn this into a Brady vs. Manning thread

LOL
more on topic...
I like the Pacific Vanguard /762. He's not in Pats uniform but I like the action shot.

[moose]

What GOAT in any sport has ever won as few as 2 season MVP awards?
Brady = 2
Manning = 5

Gretzky = 9
Jordan = 5
Barry Bonds = 7
Tiger Woods = 11 (POY)

I beg to differ on Brady as GOAT

by this logic:
Manning is the greatest QB of all time

Unitas and Favre at 2-3

and then down at the bottom you have Young, Montana, Warner, Rodgers, and Brady for 4th-8th

also by your logic, yogi had 3 MVP's and 10 rings... therefore he IS one of the 5 greatest players of all-time.

yes I am aware of my extreme bias and am just being difficult for the sake of argument

[pensfan87893]

The Score scorecard /2000 rc is climbing in value. Was lucky enough to pick one up a while back at a good price :)

https://c8.staticflickr.com/2/1529/23957298799_5121a92446.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Cv2qgR)

[rustyisin]

by this logic:
Manning is the greatest QB of all time

Unitas and Favre at 2-3

and then down at the bottom you have Young, Montana, Warner, Rodgers, and Brady for 4th-8th

also by your logic, yogi had 3 MVP's and 10 rings... therefore he IS one of the 5 greatest players of all-time.

yes I am aware of my extreme bias and am just being difficult for the sake of argument

Peyton Manning is the GOAT.

Re: Yogi...catchers need to be in a separate category, like hockey goaltenders. But, yes, in my opinion Yogi Berra is the GOAT at his position which should put him top 5 of all time.

[Prenticles]

by this logic:
Manning is the greatest QB of all time

Unitas and Favre at 2-3

and then down at the bottom you have Young, Montana, Warner, Rodgers, and Brady for 4th-8th

also by your logic, yogi had 3 MVP's and 10 rings... therefore he IS one of the 5 greatest players of all-time.

yes I am aware of my extreme bias and am just being difficult for the sake of argument

Yogi Berra has some of the best quotes of all time, and he has Yogi-isms. So don't trash him

[jasonm2121]

2000 PLAYOFF CONTENDERS TOM BRADY ROOKIE TICKET AUTOGRAPH #144 SGC 98 GEM 10 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-PLAYOFF-CONTENDERS-TOM-BRADY-ROOKIE-TICKET-AUTOGRAPH-144-SGC-98-GEM-10-/152385842012?hash=item237ae76b5c:g:k6MAAOSwopRYb9zq)

Is it me or does this one look crooked?

[Bassplayah101]

2000 PLAYOFF CONTENDERS TOM BRADY ROOKIE TICKET AUTOGRAPH #144 SGC 98 GEM 10 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-PLAYOFF-CONTENDERS-TOM-BRADY-ROOKIE-TICKET-AUTOGRAPH-144-SGC-98-GEM-10-/152385842012?hash=item237ae76b5c:g:k6MAAOSwopRYb9zq)

Is it me or does this one look crooked?

Its that rubber padding around it, not the card.
Even the flip is messed up inside, like the slab was dropped on the ground or something.