Bryce harper 2012 topps heritage red auto rc /10

[psd2k10]

I bought 2 boxes straight from topps.com back in 2012. I decided to open one (i have 1 sealed box remaining) with my 7 year old last summer. Only reason i opened it was because he just would not stop asking. So i let him open it, extremely careful of course. And to my surprise he pulled the red harper auto. It was such an exciting moment. I was very happy i got to share it with my son. Here is a picture of the card. I'm trying to decide if i should get this thing graded and if it should be with bgs or psa. I'd like to know your take on this. What company should i send it to for grading? What grade do you think the card will receive? What grade do you think the auto will receive? Should i even get it graded? I plan on keeping the card long term as it holds sentimental value to me. I know it's a bit risky but i also feel there could be tremendous long term potential. I would really appreciate everyone's input. Thanks.:)!410263

[Bhenry4]

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!! That's insane. Nice auto, BGS.

[Bhenry4]

What is that? A 10k card?

[rngrdanny22]

Wow. I'm partial to PSA on heritage, but killer card either way.

[Neo]

:eek::eek::eek:

Amazing card.

Id say grade it, psa.

[SidVish]

Beautiful! I'd go PSA.

[Neo]

OP imagine if you and your son had opened the other box and this beauty was still locked away..

RIP the other one too!

[baseballfan22]

That is absolutely stunning...I'd also grade with psa, the red label would pop with the red ink and jersey. Looks like there might be a tiny bit of whiting on the lower corners/edge, but from what I can tell it might still be a 9 which is well worth slabbing. Very clean auto as well, wow...

[cnewby]

Grad or not.....please do NOT sell it unless you absolutely have to. You will regret it, guaranteed. :)!

[sportscardsnow]

Wow great card and congratulations! That is great you got to share that with your son. I wouldn't grade the card unless I had plans to sell it someday.

[coltsfan23]

Definitely grade if Mint or better. Can never see much with just pics, but bottom left corner looks a bit touched. I'd go BGS just for that since Auto seems strong enough and I think that's enough for PSA to not give it a gem.

[PDCCollectibles]

That is awesome!! Love to see stories like this... I'd go PSA per what bbfan22 said...would really pop nicely. Auto is gorgeous...

[ThoseBackPages]

PSA always, and especially for Heritage. No brainer

congrats on the new car!

[dbpsooner]

Such an awesome card. Easily $10k plus in my opinion. I would grade it for sure. With the auto as nice as it is, if you do grade with psa, I would have them grade the auto also.

[tribefan26]

Nice pull - I would grade with PSA.

[Darth Bryzzo]

Major congrats on the Lotto pull and getting to share that with your son.

If there is any question about a corner, you should not have it graded by PSA, as it will get a 9 at best.

If you don’t know from my prior posts, I hate PSA labels and holders for most cards. I definitely have a personal BGS bias. But I also recognize that a lot of collectors right now have the opposite bias. The shifting sentiments of the hobby are ephemeral, and who knows what the prevailing taste will be 10+ years from now (will probably be in favor of a company that doesn’t even exist yet).

But all that aside, if you get it actually graded, you want it to get a gem grade if possible, and if there is a corner issue, you will almost certainly get a 9 from PSA. With a big centering issue, you’d likely be better off going PSA instead of BGS. But with the auto in play and a potential corner issue, your better odds are with BGS.

If you don’t plan on selling it anytime soon and just want it better protected and easier to handle/display, consider just having it slabbed without grading by whichever company has the holder that would be most visually appealing for that card to you and your son.

[smapdi]

The white on the lower left corner probably dooms it to 8-8.5, but that's one of those cards where the grade isn't so terribly important. Not like a 9.5 is $10K and 8.5 is $250.

It's amazing you pulled it, though. With my luck, I'd have gotten a scrubby scrub and the Harper would still be sealed in the other set.

[nbalinks]

Winner, winner!

Congrats!

[Darth Bryzzo]

The white on the lower left corner probably dooms it to 8-8.5, but that's one of those cards where the grade isn't so terribly important..

Good point here, which also gives more practical, long-term leeway to just have it slabbed without grading for enhanced protection and overall visual presentation.

[saraceno21]

I would sell it and put the $ into a 529 college saving account for your son. Great pull!

[Soxrule111]

Great card OP. I would say grade via PSA. Even if its an 8, just for safe protection.

As for the Value, I would personally say if it can be a $10k+ card, depending on how you are financially I would honestly say if you can get $12K or $15k+ sell it and put that money into a college fund of some sort now for the kid. Would have 10 years to add to it, or "Invest" it.

But regardless, great hit.

[RAV2773]

I say PSA because it will probably grade a Mint 9. Sending to BGS might bring the dreaded 8.5 which doesn't look as nice as a PSA 9. Heritage seems to always look nicer in PSA holders as well. Congrats!

[LVDan]

Such a beastly card, iconic generationally super relevant dream- type card.

Congrats to you and the boy for such a massive hit.
Id go PSA min grade 9 and if it doesn't get it, simply a one touch in the safe deposit box.
At Harper's age and career trajectory and the desirability/rarity of this issue theres no telling what this could be worth in 10 years.
think- Lebron 03-04 exquisite patch auto parallel

[WillBBC]

I wouldn't bother with an auto grade (personal preference, I never do) but would certainly go with PSA. My guess is an 8 or an 8.5 based on the white showing on the bottom corners. (This is based on a personal anecdote on an ungraded version--looked identical, came back an 8, still loved it!)

The reason I wouldn't do a min-grade is because this card will be easier to sell graded than raw if it ever comes to it. And 20 years down the road, sure, a 10 will outsell an 8, but there are only 10 produced, the demand will always outweigh the supply on this, you've got a goldmine in your hands.

Congrats on the huge pull for you and your son, must've been an incredible feeling!

[mfisher27]

If sold in the future, I think buyers would be leery in this example. I think this card needs a grade regardless of the grade. We're also not talking about a PSA 6 either. Will still grade Nr Mint/Mint at the lowest, possibly Mint.

Good point here, which also gives more practical, long-term leeway to just have it slabbed without grading for enhanced protection and overall visual presentation.

[ThoseBackPages]

cant tell a whole lot from the pic, but i could see that in a 9


here's a base 9 for comparison

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4312/35489952093_00a0b61c2b_c.jpg

[Darth Bryzzo]

If sold in the future, I think buyers would be leery in this example. I think this card needs a grade regardless of the grade. We're also not talking about a PSA 6 either. Will still grade Nr Mint/Mint at the lowest, possibly Mint.

Disagree. But that’s to be expected in a circumstance like this. No obviously right answer, but lots of decided opinions. Pretty much the nature of the beast.

[ThoseBackPages]

as far as slabs without assigned grades, the first question that most would ask is: "what's wrong with it? is it colored/trimmed?"

Especially when we are talking about this card, which there are 10 made

there are only 1000 base cards made, and the blue Auto is an unnumbered, unconfirmed SP with probably a print run of 25

[mfisher27]

People will immediately think "what's wrong with this card?" when they see it slabbed Authentic. A numeric grade at least gives you a gauge of what to expect.

Disagree. But that’s to be expected in a circumstance like this. No obviously right answer, but lots of decided opinions. Pretty much the nature of the beast.

[Mister2Bits]

Amazing pull. Just my opinion - this card was made for PSA.

PSA + Heritage = Highly Collectible

BGS - Best case scenario = BGS 9 with 10 auto. Silver label. Worst case BGS 8 is a white label.

PSA - best case scenario = PSA 9. Red label will match the aesthetics of the card. Worst case scenario = PSA 8. Still looks great in the case and is now protected.

No downside to PSA on this one, a little risk of an ugly BGS white label, small chance at gold.

[Darth Bryzzo]

People will immediately think "what's wrong with this card?" when they see it slabbed Authentic. A numeric grade at least gives you a gauge of what to expect.

I get that that’s your strong opinion, and that’s more than fine.

[ScooterD]

Wow - that’s probably at, or near, the top of my list for most coveted 21st century cards.

I think the auto looks strong, but I think PSA May be the better option. Won’t get a BGS 10/10, and PSA 10’s sell beter

[enyouartist]

I concur with the majority of opinions that getting it slabbed without grading is not good advise. Sorry, but any card that is only slabbed without grading immediately has negative connotations.

My two cents, I would send it to PSA because you don’t want a silver BGS9. Then I would have a conversation with my son depending on age. Perhaps persuade him to sell and save it for a future purpose of his choosing. It’s a lot of money, and I think you’d be remiss not to at least dicuss it with your son. It could fund his future hobby and teach him self-sustainability.

At the very least, take a picture with you and him holding it together. Slab that picture!

[tribefan26]

People will immediately think "what's wrong with this card?" when they see it slabbed Authentic. A numeric grade at least gives you a gauge of what to expect.

That was my thought. If I see an authentic on 2012 card, I assume it is a wreck.

[Orange October]

Wow!!!! Talk about an absolutely insane pull. Congrats to you and your son! That's the hit of a life time.

[Archangel1775]

Wow, thank you for sharing. Personally,aesthetics aside, BGS offers the most protection. I love the inner sleeve. It will prob get a BGS 9/10 but you never know of the rest get 9.5's. This is his best card next to his super auto.

[SirTommyWinAlot]

That's a bad boy card right there. I honestly didn't realize that the red ink autos were once upon a time limited to just 10.

[dbpsooner]

That's a bad boy card right there. I honestly didn't realize that the red ink autos were once upon a time limited to just 10.

Ya in 2012-2014 the red inks are limited to 10. Heck in 2012 and 2013 the blue ink versions are almost as hard to find also.

[lauriontj]

Heritage should always go PSA. No need to go BGS as it is a sentimental piece. It will stay in the family for years I'm sure. Slab it to protect with PSA. Would look real sharp. And keep it in a team bag after it gets spanned to protect the holder from scratches.

[IgnatiusJReilly]

What an amazing card! I love the way that card looks and it totally surpasses any BC color card I’ve ever seen,


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[TarjetasBéisbol]

Beautiful card and congrats! I'm glad you and your son were able to experience that moment.

[rainmaker]

one of the highest desired modern rc /10 with a clear corner issue (small issue im not knocking the card its stunning!)

i would not grade this it is worth more raw than it would be in anything under a psa 10 label imo.

if its completely for the pc and to go to your son grade be damned then go with whichever holder you prefer.

[kyle1707]

one of the highest desired modern rc /10 with a clear corner issue (small issue im not knocking the card its stunning!)

i would not grade this it is worth more raw than it would be in anything under a psa 10 label imo.

if its completely for the pc and to go to your son grade be damned then go with whichever holder you prefer.

Amazing card. It might be only the 2nd one I have ever seen

I have had 3-4 base and 2 blue autos . 1 I bought for 350 :)

They are super tough.

They were jammed in a little box with 100 other cards

No reason to get it graded. But if you just got an psa 8

I don’t think it would decrease raw value at all

Get a 9 or 10. Who knows

Let’s stay healthy and have a huge year :)

[kyle1707]

Heritage should always go PSA. No need to go BGS as it is a sentimental piece. It will stay in the family for years I'm sure. Slab it to protect with PSA. Would look real sharp. And keep it in a team bag after it gets spanned to protect the holder from scratches.

When I stop being lazy. I will move on from photobucket

I have over 100 psa 10 heritage cards lining my book shelves in office

Need to show off :)

[flagshipchromecollector]

No need to grade IMO. The value of that card stands on its own considering the print run and desirability. Just put it in a one touch.

[NoleinJax]

Would look awesome in a PSA case imo.

[wood minis]

I'm in agreement with those who recommend not grading the card.

[JWBlue]

If he signs with the Yankees that card might explode in value.

He is somewhat injury prone which is something to consider. Selling now could garner a ton of cash.

[kyle1707]

If he signs with the Yankees that card might explode in value.

He is somewhat injury prone which is something to consider. Selling now could garner a ton of cash.

As big of a homer as I am.

Only thing that will stop 3000 hits 500 hrs

Is injury. Hopefully luck turns around

Through 24 he’s already quarter way to both

But he has missed 100 games ?

Next 6 years through 30 are huge for legacy

If he can get to that 140-145 game mark each year we will see big numbers

[Cavaliercards]

Congrats on the amazing hit

[MNmoose78]

It's a beaut Clarke, its a beaut!!!!

[psd2k10]

thank you everyone for the input i really appreciate it. i decided i will send this bad boy to psa. i think i can safely assume the auto get definitely get a perfect 10. for the card, i hope it gets at least a 9 but i'd be happy even with an 8 or 8.5 i just cant see how this will grade lower than an 8. the surface is flawless front and back so that's a plus. only issue is the small touch of white in bottom left corner and the slightest white touch on bottom edge. hope to have this card for a long time. and hoping bryce has a great season!

[CoachBruno]

For a card of this value (and potential value), I think this should be more of an objective, fiscal decision for you and your family. For me, sentimental value wouldn't outweigh the risk associated with the card depreciating... but my son didn't pull the card.

The other side of the coin (and depending on your risk tolerance), you might want to keep it, as the chance it will significantly outpace traditional investments is fairly strong. That being said, $10k in a 7 yo's investment account can grow reasonably large and much more safely.

But yes, PSA. You could always send it off to the other company if you didn't like the first grade...

[Mister2Bits]

thank you everyone for the input i really appreciate it. i decided i will send this bad boy to psa. i think i can safely assume the auto get definitely get a perfect 10. for the card, i hope it gets at least a 9 but i'd be happy even with an 8 or 8.5 i just cant see how this will grade lower than an 8. the surface is flawless front and back so that's a plus. only issue is the small touch of white in bottom left corner and the slightest white touch on bottom edge. hope to have this card for a long time. and hoping bryce has a great season!

This is a great idea. I personally think the card will grade a PSA 9, but for something like this the grade might not matter.

My personal mind set is to grade all high dollar cards in the event I need to liquidate for cash. The PSA holder will assist by providing additional liquidity and lower risk of a buyer returning based on condition.

If I have a catastrophic life event (you never know what will happen tomorrow) I will sell right away. If I pass unexpectedly, I hope the grading investment will assist my family in selling my cards.

[Chrisyork33]

If he signs with the Yankees that card might explode in value.

He is somewhat injury prone which is something to consider. Selling now could garner a ton of cash.

When he signs.....

[texmcpherson]

Gorgeous card, some people have all of the luck!

[ThoseBackPages]

cant wait to see it!

[WhyMarinersWhy]

I'm terrible at guessing grades, but that auto should absolutely be a 10. Harper has a ton of streaky autos out there, but that sure isn't one of them. Congrats!