Bryce harper 2012 topps heritage red auto rc /10

psd2k10 · 03-22-2018, 01:29 PM

I bought 2 boxes straight from topps.com back in 2012. I decided to open one (i have 1 sealed box remaining) with my 7 year old last summer. Only reason i opened it was because he just would not stop asking. So i let him open it, extremely careful of course. And to my surprise he pulled the red harper auto. It was such an exciting moment. I was very happy i got to share it with my son. Here is a picture of the card. I'm trying to decide if i should get this thing graded and if it should be with bgs or psa. I'd like to know your take on this. What company should i send it to for grading? What grade do you think the card will receive? What grade do you think the auto will receive? Should i even get it graded? I plan on keeping the card long term as it holds sentimental value to me. I know it's a bit risky but i also feel there could be tremendous long term potential. I would really appreciate everyone's input. Thanks.

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Bhenry4 · 03-22-2018, 01:31 PM

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!! That's insane. Nice auto, BGS.

Bhenry4 · 03-22-2018, 01:31 PM

What is that? A 10k card?

rngrdanny22 · 03-22-2018, 01:32 PM

Wow. I'm partial to PSA on heritage, but killer card either way.

Neo · 03-22-2018, 01:32 PM

Amazing card.

Id say grade it, psa.

SidVish · 03-22-2018, 01:34 PM

Beautiful! I'd go PSA.

Neo · 03-22-2018, 01:36 PM

OP imagine if you and your son had opened the other box and this beauty was still locked away..

RIP the other one too!

baseballfan22 · 03-22-2018, 01:40 PM

That is absolutely stunning...I'd also grade with psa, the red label would pop with the red ink and jersey. Looks like there might be a tiny bit of whiting on the lower corners/edge, but from what I can tell it might still be a 9 which is well worth slabbing. Very clean auto as well, wow...

cnewby · 03-22-2018, 01:44 PM

Grad or not.....please do NOT sell it unless you absolutely have to. You will regret it, guaranteed.

sportscardsnow · 03-22-2018, 01:49 PM

Wow great card and congratulations! That is great you got to share that with your son. I wouldn't grade the card unless I had plans to sell it someday.

coltsfan23 · 03-22-2018, 01:51 PM

Definitely grade if Mint or better. Can never see much with just pics, but bottom left corner looks a bit touched. I'd go BGS just for that since Auto seems strong enough and I think that's enough for PSA to not give it a gem.

PDCCollectibles · 03-22-2018, 01:52 PM

That is awesome!! Love to see stories like this... I'd go PSA per what bbfan22 said...would really pop nicely. Auto is gorgeous...

ThoseBackPages · 03-22-2018, 01:56 PM

PSA always, and especially for Heritage. No brainer

congrats on the new car!

dbpsooner · 03-22-2018, 01:57 PM

Such an awesome card. Easily $10k plus in my opinion. I would grade it for sure. With the auto as nice as it is, if you do grade with psa, I would have them grade the auto also.

tribefan26 · 03-22-2018, 01:59 PM

Nice pull - I would grade with PSA.

Darth Bryzzo · 03-22-2018, 02:02 PM

Major congrats on the Lotto pull and getting to share that with your son.

If there is any question about a corner, you should not have it graded by PSA, as it will get a 9 at best.

If you don’t know from my prior posts, I hate PSA labels and holders for most cards. I definitely have a personal BGS bias. But I also recognize that a lot of collectors right now have the opposite bias. The shifting sentiments of the hobby are ephemeral, and who knows what the prevailing taste will be 10+ years from now (will probably be in favor of a company that doesn’t even exist yet).

But all that aside, if you get it actually graded, you want it to get a gem grade if possible, and if there is a corner issue, you will almost certainly get a 9 from PSA. With a big centering issue, you’d likely be better off going PSA instead of BGS. But with the auto in play and a potential corner issue, your better odds are with BGS.

If you don’t plan on selling it anytime soon and just want it better protected and easier to handle/display, consider just having it slabbed without grading by whichever company has the holder that would be most visually appealing for that card to you and your son.

smapdi · 03-22-2018, 02:08 PM

The white on the lower left corner probably dooms it to 8-8.5, but that's one of those cards where the grade isn't so terribly important. Not like a 9.5 is $10K and 8.5 is $250.

It's amazing you pulled it, though. With my luck, I'd have gotten a scrubby scrub and the Harper would still be sealed in the other set.

nbalinks · 03-22-2018, 02:11 PM

Winner, winner!

Congrats!

Darth Bryzzo · 03-22-2018, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smapdi

The white on the lower left corner probably dooms it to 8-8.5, but that's one of those cards where the grade isn't so terribly important..

Good point here, which also gives more practical, long-term leeway to just have it slabbed without grading for enhanced protection and overall visual presentation.

saraceno21 · 03-22-2018, 02:12 PM

I would sell it and put the $ into a 529 college saving account for your son. Great pull!

Soxrule111 · 03-22-2018, 02:17 PM

Great card OP. I would say grade via PSA. Even if its an 8, just for safe protection.

As for the Value, I would personally say if it can be a $10k+ card, depending on how you are financially I would honestly say if you can get $12K or $15k+ sell it and put that money into a college fund of some sort now for the kid. Would have 10 years to add to it, or "Invest" it.

But regardless, great hit.

RAV2773 · 03-22-2018, 02:22 PM

I say PSA because it will probably grade a Mint 9. Sending to BGS might bring the dreaded 8.5 which doesn't look as nice as a PSA 9. Heritage seems to always look nicer in PSA holders as well. Congrats!

LVDan · 03-22-2018, 02:24 PM

Such a beastly card, iconic generationally super relevant dream- type card.

Congrats to you and the boy for such a massive hit.
Id go PSA min grade 9 and if it doesn't get it, simply a one touch in the safe deposit box.
At Harper's age and career trajectory and the desirability/rarity of this issue theres no telling what this could be worth in 10 years.
think- Lebron 03-04 exquisite patch auto parallel

WillBBC · 03-22-2018, 02:38 PM

I wouldn't bother with an auto grade (personal preference, I never do) but would certainly go with PSA. My guess is an 8 or an 8.5 based on the white showing on the bottom corners. (This is based on a personal anecdote on an ungraded version--looked identical, came back an 8, still loved it!)

The reason I wouldn't do a min-grade is because this card will be easier to sell graded than raw if it ever comes to it. And 20 years down the road, sure, a 10 will outsell an 8, but there are only 10 produced, the demand will always outweigh the supply on this, you've got a goldmine in your hands.

Congrats on the huge pull for you and your son, must've been an incredible feeling!

mfisher27 · 03-22-2018, 02:39 PM

If sold in the future, I think buyers would be leery in this example. I think this card needs a grade regardless of the grade. We're also not talking about a PSA 6 either. Will still grade Nr Mint/Mint at the lowest, possibly Mint.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth Bryzzo

Good point here, which also gives more practical, long-term leeway to just have it slabbed without grading for enhanced protection and overall visual presentation.

03-22-2018, 01:29 PM	#1
psd2k10 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,457	Bryce harper 2012 topps heritage red auto rc /10 I bought 2 boxes straight from topps.com back in 2012. I decided to open one (i have 1 sealed box remaining) with my 7 year old last summer. Only reason i opened it was because he just would not stop asking. So i let him open it, extremely careful of course. And to my surprise he pulled the red harper auto. It was such an exciting moment. I was very happy i got to share it with my son. Here is a picture of the card. I'm trying to decide if i should get this thing graded and if it should be with bgs or psa. I'd like to know your take on this. What company should i send it to for grading? What grade do you think the card will receive? What grade do you think the auto will receive? Should i even get it graded? I plan on keeping the card long term as it holds sentimental value to me. I know it's a bit risky but i also feel there could be tremendous long term potential. I would really appreciate everyone's input. Thanks.Attachment 410263 Attached Thumbnails

03-22-2018, 01:31 PM	#2
Bhenry4 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Charm City Posts: 13,996 bhendu1	HOLY CRAP!!!!!!! That's insane. Nice auto, BGS. __________________ Viva John Ryno

03-22-2018, 01:31 PM	#3
Bhenry4 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Charm City Posts: 13,996 bhendu1	What is that? A 10k card? __________________ Viva John Ryno

03-22-2018, 01:32 PM	#5
Neo Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 2,178	Amazing card. Id say grade it, psa. __________________ I found my dream card, and thus am finally NO LONGER looking for: 1997 Bowman Certified Gold Ink Autographs #CA35 Roy Halladay Hate your enemies//Save, save your friends//Find, find your place//Speak, speak the truth

03-22-2018, 01:34 PM	#6
SidVish Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,232	Beautiful! I'd go PSA. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/143795381@N02/albums

03-22-2018, 01:32 PM	#4
rngrdanny22 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 12,372	Wow. I'm partial to PSA on heritage, but killer card either way.

03-22-2018, 01:36 PM	#7
Neo Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 2,178	OP imagine if you and your son had opened the other box and this beauty was still locked away.. RIP the other one too! __________________ I found my dream card, and thus am finally NO LONGER looking for: 1997 Bowman Certified Gold Ink Autographs #CA35 Roy Halladay Hate your enemies//Save, save your friends//Find, find your place//Speak, speak the truth

03-22-2018, 01:40 PM	#8
baseballfan22 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,606	That is absolutely stunning...I'd also grade with psa, the red label would pop with the red ink and jersey. Looks like there might be a tiny bit of whiting on the lower corners/edge, but from what I can tell it might still be a 9 which is well worth slabbing. Very clean auto as well, wow... __________________ PC: Robinson Cano

03-22-2018, 01:44 PM	#9
cnewby Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: MI Posts: 18,641	Grad or not.....please do NOT sell it unless you absolutely have to. You will regret it, guaranteed. __________________ #ALLRISE - THE ORIGINAL HASHTAG - ALL OTHERS ARE CUTE IMITATIONS

03-22-2018, 01:49 PM	#10
sportscardsnow Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 501 sportscardsnow	Wow great card and congratulations! That is great you got to share that with your son. I wouldn't grade the card unless I had plans to sell it someday.

03-22-2018, 01:51 PM	#11
coltsfan23 Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: US Posts: 10,219 coltsfan23	Definitely grade if Mint or better. Can never see much with just pics, but bottom left corner looks a bit touched. I'd go BGS just for that since Auto seems strong enough and I think that's enough for PSA to not give it a gem.

03-22-2018, 01:52 PM	#12
PDCCollectibles Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 5,088	That is awesome!! Love to see stories like this... I'd go PSA per what bbfan22 said...would really pop nicely. Auto is gorgeous...

03-22-2018, 01:56 PM	#13
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 91,187 ThoseBackPages	PSA always, and especially for Heritage. No brainer congrats on the new car! __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

03-22-2018, 01:57 PM	#14
dbpsooner Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Omaha Posts: 3,003 dbpsooner	Such an awesome card. Easily $10k plus in my opinion. I would grade it for sure. With the auto as nice as it is, if you do grade with psa, I would have them grade the auto also.

03-22-2018, 01:59 PM	#15
tribefan26 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: America's Finest City! Posts: 3,342	Nice pull - I would grade with PSA.

03-22-2018, 02:02 PM	#16
Darth Bryzzo Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: In Cubs' Ginormous Blackout Area Posts: 2,359 jellyfish7 DarthBryzzo	Major congrats on the Lotto pull and getting to share that with your son. If there is any question about a corner, you should not have it graded by PSA, as it will get a 9 at best. If you don’t know from my prior posts, I hate PSA labels and holders for most cards. I definitely have a personal BGS bias. But I also recognize that a lot of collectors right now have the opposite bias. The shifting sentiments of the hobby are ephemeral, and who knows what the prevailing taste will be 10+ years from now (will probably be in favor of a company that doesn’t even exist yet). But all that aside, if you get it actually graded, you want it to get a gem grade if possible, and if there is a corner issue, you will almost certainly get a 9 from PSA. With a big centering issue, you’d likely be better off going PSA instead of BGS. But with the auto in play and a potential corner issue, your better odds are with BGS. If you don’t plan on selling it anytime soon and just want it better protected and easier to handle/display, consider just having it slabbed without grading by whichever company has the holder that would be most visually appealing for that card to you and your son.

03-22-2018, 02:08 PM	#17
smapdi Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 1,769 piledriver1	The white on the lower left corner probably dooms it to 8-8.5, but that's one of those cards where the grade isn't so terribly important. Not like a 9.5 is $10K and 8.5 is $250. It's amazing you pulled it, though. With my luck, I'd have gotten a scrubby scrub and the Harper would still be sealed in the other set.

03-22-2018, 02:11 PM	#18
nbalinks Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,604 nbalinks nbalinks	Winner, winner! Congrats!

03-22-2018, 02:12 PM	#20
saraceno21 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,355 Saraceno21 Saraceno21	I would sell it and put the $ into a 529 college saving account for your son. Great pull!

03-22-2018, 02:17 PM	#21
Soxrule111 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: DeKalb Posts: 15,306 Soxrule111	Great card OP. I would say grade via PSA. Even if its an 8, just for safe protection. As for the Value, I would personally say if it can be a $10k+ card, depending on how you are financially I would honestly say if you can get $12K or $15k+ sell it and put that money into a college fund of some sort now for the kid. Would have 10 years to add to it, or "Invest" it. But regardless, great hit.

03-22-2018, 02:22 PM	#22
RAV2773 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NJ Posts: 4,837 baseballking973	I say PSA because it will probably grade a Mint 9. Sending to BGS might bring the dreaded 8.5 which doesn't look as nice as a PSA 9. Heritage seems to always look nicer in PSA holders as well. Congrats!

03-22-2018, 02:24 PM	#23
LVDan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 17,790	Such a beastly card, iconic generationally super relevant dream- type card. Congrats to you and the boy for such a massive hit. Id go PSA min grade 9 and if it doesn't get it, simply a one touch in the safe deposit box. At Harper's age and career trajectory and the desirability/rarity of this issue theres no telling what this could be worth in 10 years. think- Lebron 03-04 exquisite patch auto parallel Last edited by LVDan; 03-22-2018 at 02:28 PM.

03-22-2018, 02:38 PM	#24
WillBBC Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3,338	I wouldn't bother with an auto grade (personal preference, I never do) but would certainly go with PSA. My guess is an 8 or an 8.5 based on the white showing on the bottom corners. (This is based on a personal anecdote on an ungraded version--looked identical, came back an 8, still loved it!) The reason I wouldn't do a min-grade is because this card will be easier to sell graded than raw if it ever comes to it. And 20 years down the road, sure, a 10 will outsell an 8, but there are only 10 produced, the demand will always outweigh the supply on this, you've got a goldmine in your hands. Congrats on the huge pull for you and your son, must've been an incredible feeling!