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Goldminer
05-25-2019, 02:59 PM
Just recieved my Steph Curry Bowman RC today and the seller ships in a card saver and NO penny sleeve. And get this.. a post it note STUCK to the card itself.... really? who does that?

I paid 200.00 bucks for this card!!!!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190525/a7322ff69cad414f7a7dafb2e9bc9aae.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190525/52852227d1121cd23d562d11c9e20d82.jpg

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UltimateDeron
05-25-2019, 03:06 PM
Is that the pop report he wrote down?

So clearly he has knowledge of condition and grading yet still shipped it that way. Unbelievable.

bklanutai
05-25-2019, 03:17 PM
Hope the seller didn’t write on the post-it while it was on the card. Had that happen to me once and there were pen indentations all over.

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 03:18 PM
Is that the pop report he wrote down?

So clearly he has knowledge of condition and grading yet still shipped it that way. Unbelievable.

Sure is! I don't know why you would be concerned with the POP report, when you obviously have no clue about card grades. Guess what guy, GLUE on the surface is bad...

SanAntonioSpurs
05-25-2019, 03:45 PM
After seeing how he shipped it, it wouldn't surprise me if he put the post it note on the card then wrote on it.

chuckerrrr
05-25-2019, 03:47 PM
I got a baseball card delivered yesterday. A refractor. No post it note. Was delivered in an envelope and toploader. No sleeve. Surface has issues. Was so annoyed. Card was only $40 but still. Sellers know how eBay is. Its so easy for anyone to return anything. Im actually keeping the card because I need it for a set and it was a hard find but still. Dont understand some people.


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ThoseBackPages
05-25-2019, 03:52 PM
a post-it ON the card?

OH MY!

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 04:02 PM
I message the guy to give him a chance to make it right and he scoffs at me and doesn't want to make it right.. Should I just file a claim?

ThoseBackPages
05-25-2019, 04:03 PM
yea, send it back

mk6283
05-25-2019, 04:19 PM
I am amazed at how absurdly some people package and ship cards.

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 04:21 PM
I message the guy to give him a chance to make it right and he scoffs at me and doesn't want to make it right.. Should I just file a claim?

Was it actually damaged? YOu never actually say.. Post it note glue is not as sticky as painters tape so it could just rub off with a microfiber cloth or something similar. If its not damaged then what is your claim?

If its actually damaged then yes send it back otherwise you really have no claim.

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 04:38 PM
Was it actually damaged? YOu never actually say.. Post it note glue is not as sticky as painters tape so it could just rub off with a microfiber cloth or something similar. If its not damaged then what is your claim?

If its actually damaged then yes send it back otherwise you really have no claim.

To the naked eye? Looks ok, but on a $200.00 card?... I know its chump change for some but i consider that to be at least semi- high end. Maybe I could just pass it off to some unexacting buyer such as your self? LOL

Kingofkings1281
05-25-2019, 04:40 PM
I probably send that back just on general principle.

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 04:53 PM
To the naked eye? Looks ok, but on a $200.00 card?... I know its chump change for some but i consider that to be at least semi- high end. Maybe I could just pass it off to some unexacting buyer such as your self? LOL

Again what is the damage you are claiming? I send in many cards for grading so I am asking, what was the actual damage. Why you getting so defensive you have to try to make a personal attack?

If you feel it is damaged then you have every right to return it, but if its not that bad as you say then it likely is not damaged. I have a card now that got apiece of painters tape on its front edge that sits in a PSA 10 holder now. A little microfiber cloth and it was good as new.

goldkobe
05-25-2019, 04:54 PM
Lol that’s terrible and the card probably won’t be gem after this. Send it back, what a joke.

ThoseBackPages
05-25-2019, 04:57 PM
who is the seller?

salthill
05-25-2019, 05:06 PM
I message the guy to give him a chance to make it right and he scoffs at me and doesn't want to make it right.. Should I just file a claim?
In other words you asked for a partial refund on an (so far in the story) undamaged item. Not sure you’ll get the reaction you were hoping for from anyone here that sells.

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 05:09 PM
In other words you asked for a partial refund on an (so far in the story) undamaged item. Not sure you’ll get the reaction you were hoping for from anyone here that sells.

Asking for a partial refund is now considered buyer abuse and will result in any feedback being removable and any case you open possibly result in you losing if the seller knows what he is doing. I have had 2 negs removed and a case decided in my favor under these new policies. 1 neg was for item arriving late even though I shipped on time other was related to the case I won buyer refused to return wanted a partial refund and another item.

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/rules-policies-buyers/buying-practices-policy?id=4374

Not allowed
Requesting a shipping service not offered by the seller
Requesting the seller ship to an address other than what you included in checkout
Requesting to use a payment method not offered during checkout
Requesting the seller hold your item so you can pay later
Requesting a partial refund without returning the item
Request additional items or services not included in the original listing or asking for a discount
Finding an item on eBay and taking the sale off eBay

SDcardguy24
05-25-2019, 05:24 PM
I message the guy to give him a chance to make it right and he scoffs at me and doesn't want to make it right.. Should I just file a claim?

how can he make it right? you obviously are not happy with the card so just return it for a full refund. why ask for a partial refund and keep the card you think is ruined?

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 05:56 PM
Excuse me...I did not ask for a partial refund. I was nearly asking him what he wanted to do. Giving him a chance. I could just as easily filed a claim or drop negative feedback. What happens evertime you do this? The seller complains that you didn't contact them first and give them a chance right?

Not trying to be defensive i was just saying, thats whats gonna happen if I don't return the item or send it in to be graded. Im passing it on. SO if you want to offer me 225 right now id be happy to get out of it make everyone happy LOL

No seriously there was some good feedback in the responses here. Im not sure what I'm gonna do yet. I think ill sleep on it. The seller went silent on me so I have three options. Send it back for full refund. Submit it to grading anyways and pray(not smart). Or resale raw... both of the 2nd options are coming with negative feed back.. so I think asking him to "make it right" overall was the proper move. You can infer whatever you want from that. If you choose to feel extorted or something for a partial refund then thats whatever. A good seller first of all would suggest what he wanted me to do when I asked. wether that be to send it back to him and refund with out a claim, give a partial,, or to go pound sand(his stance lol). Obviously he doesn't care so thats what his negative feedback will say. Poorly packaged, minor damage, horrible customer service, avoid seller.....

Again, who does that? Post it note ON the card.. Pfft!!!!

ThoseBackPages
05-25-2019, 06:02 PM
who was the seller?

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 06:04 PM
How could he make it right? Offer a partial and allow you to keep it? As a seller if its good enough to keep its good enough to pay what you agreed to initially. Or return for full refund. I always respond to these as return for full refund. Nothing more nothing less.

To me telling him to make it right is a veiled attempt at feedback extortion. Most smart sellers do not fear negs and some are worth taking as long as you do not get a lot for the same reason in a short period of time they will not affect a seller one bit.. They also know not to respond or respond with "return for refund."

Yes he was wrong in how he shipped it.

blinkme323
05-25-2019, 06:06 PM
I once had an $1100 card shipped to me in a card saver / PWE.

Some people will go to great / insane lengths to save a few bucks.

salthill
05-25-2019, 06:13 PM
Is there glue left on the surface?
Or are you upset about the potential for damage?

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 06:24 PM
who was the seller?

Im not going to embarrass the guy. This is a clever group. Anyone who wants to know the name can easily find it and mine for that matter. I guess it really wasn't that big of a deal.. but when you open these packages and just scream sometimes WHY?!?!?!??!

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 06:27 PM
Is there glue left on the surface?
Or are you upset about the potential for damage?

Potential i guess.. It looks ok but when i used magnification it does look like it may have indentations from possibly writing on the post it but i can't tell... hell it probably comes back 10 idk..

pejc300
05-25-2019, 06:34 PM
OP, are you 12? Shipping was unbelievably stupid and the post it note was insane. But if there's no damage? Why not just count your lucky stars and move on? People saying return it even though there's no damage or request a partial refund? Crazytown.

salthill
05-25-2019, 06:55 PM
Potential i guess.. It looks ok but when i used magnification it does look like it may have indentations from possibly writing on the post it but i can't tell... hell it probably comes back 10 idk..

Yeah, I get it. You’re pissed the card could have easily arrived damaged. That irritates me when it happens too - because once I pay for it I see it as my card, and they’re handling my property carelessly. But you’ve got no comeback on the seller. Their job is to make sure the card arrives safely and it did.

PelicanFly
05-25-2019, 06:57 PM
Leave neutral feedback and tell him to fix his shipping method.

boxbreak
05-25-2019, 07:05 PM
When I ship cards I double wrap in a bubble wrap the toploader and it's a card worth over 300 US I usually send it with a mag/one touch. It's disgusting how people treat their buyers and cards with such disrespect.

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 07:10 PM
When I ship cards I double wrap in a bubble wrap the toploader and it's a card worth over 300 US I usually send it with a mag/one touch. It's disgusting how people treat their buyers and cards with such disrespect.

Mags and one touches are risky when shipping have seen many cases where they have come open in shipping and caused damaged. A card saver is a very stable option but should be protected in cardboard and such.

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 07:11 PM
Leave neutral feedback and tell him to fix his shipping method.

He could get it removed from what the OP told us. The seller has no history of issues or anything.

The seller did his job got the card to the buyer undamaged from what the OP is telling us.

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 07:52 PM
^^^^ This guy..LOL Must be the seller..

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 07:56 PM
^^^^ This guy..LOL Must be the seller..

I think if I was I would have done exposed your Ebay ID by now..

You have said numerous times the card was not damaged and that you still wanted the seller to make it right. Fact is you were fishing for a partial refund by suggesting he make it right. That is extortion and is enough to earn you a spot on many BBLs. So I would have already exposed that..

Here is the listing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Bowman-48-Basketball-Stephen-Curry-Rookie-Card-106-0212-2009-/362656979297?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 07:59 PM
Since SHREVECITY wants to be a JERK and threaten me in PM. Ill just beat you to it and post the messages between me and the seller. Im might be complaining to much but I'm am NO LIAR. How dare you say that to me

ew message from: jclcjs_t0rksls0et

(782

)
The post it note was for Internal Inventory and has never damaged any card in our Inventory.
The use of penny sleeves was explained to our company as not required. The only time a penny sleeve
would be required is when there is a chrome card involved and transference of the coating on the card
might in some cases occur.

What else can we do for you at this time?

Your previous message
Hello

I paid 200.00 for this card and you ship it with NO penny sleeve and a POST IT note STUCK to the card?!!?!?!?!?

Excuse me, but that is not acceptable. Please make the situation right or I will need to file an itme not as described case.

Eric

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 08:01 PM
I think if I was I would have done exposed your Ebay ID by now..

You have said numerous times the card was not damaged and that you still wanted the seller to make it right. YOu are just butt hurt..

Here is the listing.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Bowman-48-Basketball-Stephen-Curry-Rookie-Card-106-0212-2009-/362656979297?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

Go ahead!!!!! Ive done nothing wrong. Why do you care so much is the real ?

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 08:06 PM
Go ahead!!!!! Ive done nothing wrong. Why do you care so much is the real ?

Threatening to file a claim when there is nothing wrong with the card is wrong.

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 08:07 PM
Since SHREVECITY wants to be a JERK and threaten me in PM. Ill just beat you to it and post the messages between me and the seller. Im might be complaining to much but I'm am NO LIAR. How dare you say that to me

ew message from: jclcjs_t0rksls0et

(782

)
The post it note was for Internal Inventory and has never damaged any card in our Inventory.
The use of penny sleeves was explained to our company as not required. The only time a penny sleeve
would be required is when there is a chrome card involved and transference of the coating on the card
might in some cases occur.

What else can we do for you at this time?

Your previous message
Hello

I paid 200.00 for this card and you ship it with NO penny sleeve and a POST IT note STUCK to the card?!!?!?!?!?

Excuse me, but that is not acceptable. Please make the situation right or I will need to file an itme not as described case.

Eric

Nuff said..

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 08:07 PM
Threatening to file a claim when there is nothing wrong with the card is wrong.

But its OK to threaten me, when you have nothing to do with the situation huh? Get lost guy..

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 08:08 PM
Nuff said..

What? in your own head maybe.. You won guy,, you won...OK...

You ship me a card like that. Im """"""threating"""""" to file a claim, your DAMN right

salthill
05-25-2019, 08:10 PM
Dude, take the L. You admit the card came undamaged, yet you requested the seller “make it right”. You were straight up fishing for a partial refund.

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 08:11 PM
But its OK to threaten me, when you have nothing to do with the situation huh? Get lost guy..

How did I threaten you? Saying I would post what really happened which you did?

What you said in that message was enough to not only get any feedback you leave removed it as that is extortion. There was nothing for the seller to do to make it right.

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 08:12 PM
How did I threaten you? Saying I would post what really happened which you did?

What you said in that message was enough to not only get any feedback you leave removed it as that is extortion. There was nothing for the seller to do to make it right.

I disagree!! You've stated your feeling many, many, many times... Thanks

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 08:13 PM
What? in your own head maybe.. You won guy,, you won...OK...

You ship me a card like that. Im """"""threating"""""" to file a claim, your DAMN right

What was the damage to the card? Filing a not as described case when there is nothing wrong with the card is wrong and threatening the seller goeas against Ebay rules as I posted in that earlier link.

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 08:13 PM
I disagree!! You've stated your feeling many, many, many times... Thanks

Ebay rules state differently.

brentus777
05-25-2019, 08:23 PM
What was the damage to the card? Filing a not as described case when there is nothing wrong with the card is wrong and threatening the seller goeas against Ebay rules as I posted in that earlier link.

Well to be fair it doesn't say in the original listing card comes with a post it note attached... and so that's not as described, not sure about you but if the pics or description noted a post it stuck to the back I wouldn't bid... but hey each to their own!

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 08:24 PM
Not only could I get a full refund. I WOULD get a full refund. Ive been an EBAY member for over a decade. This guy since June 2018

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 08:26 PM
And SHREVECITY Errrr the seller... Has sent many a PM to me on here and continues to sent them, even though i stopped responding....think about that for a sec

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 08:27 PM
Well to be fair it doesn't say in the original listing card comes with a post it note attached... and so that's not as described, not sure about you but if the pics or description noted a post it stuck to the back I wouldn't bid... but hey each to their own!

Did not say it came in a card saver either. It was photographed without a CS or penny sleeve. The question is did it arrive damaged. OP has said several times he does not believe it is damaged at all. Post it note glue is not that sticky.

I am amazed the seller even got the card into the saver without bending the note personally.

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 08:28 PM
Did not say it came in a card saver either. It was photographed without a CS or penny sleeve. The question is did it arrive damaged. OP has said several times he does not believe it is damaged at all. Post it note glue is not that sticky.

I am amazed the seller even got the card into the saver without bending the note personally.

Whatever guy...go check your Ebay feedback :)

shrevecity
05-25-2019, 08:40 PM
Whatever guy...go check your Ebay feedback :)

I did, nothing there,,` Seller in in NH, Its obvious from my ID where I live. ANother point seller had already left you feedback most everyone here know I have auto feedback that leaves it when I get it.

anyone wanting to block OP here ya go..

https://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=1stuner510&Dirn=Left+by&ref=home

Bobbyplaza133
05-25-2019, 08:42 PM
Post it note on the card? Yikes.

sheriffwatson
05-25-2019, 08:53 PM
“Please make the situation right or I will need to file an itme not as described case.”

Terrible shipping method, but don’t act like you’re not looking for something here. If it’s damaged, send the card back for a full refund. If it isn’t, don’t go looking for a partial refund because you didn’t like the shipping and handling of the card. I got a don mattingly Topps tribute auto in a white envelope with just a sleeve on it. Awful awful shipping method, but the card was fine so I let it go and never bought anything again from the dude.

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 09:04 PM
“Please make the situation right or I will need to file an itme not as described case.”

Terrible shipping method, but don’t act like you’re not looking for something here. If it’s damaged, send the card back for a full refund. If it isn’t, don’t go looking for a partial refund because you didn’t like the shipping and handling of the card. I got a don mattingly Topps tribute auto in a white envelope with just a sleeve on it. Awful awful shipping method, but the card was fine so I let it go and never bought anything again from the dude.

Was I hoping for something yes. Did I directly ask for it No. Did I threaten him? Thats up to you I guess.... Grow a pair... you don't know what a threat is. Good thing everyone here is hiding behind computer screens....So lets just drop the "threat" B.S already ok.

I threatened him with returning his merchandise... WOW..

sheriffwatson
05-25-2019, 09:26 PM
What exactly where you hoping for?

sheriffwatson
05-25-2019, 09:27 PM
I never said you threatened anyone. Calm down a little bit.

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 09:27 PM
What exactly where you hoping for?


At this point i will take a "my bad bro" LOL

Some acknowledgemeant of how ridiculous it was. And to offer me a refund(card going back of course). Thats all I expected. Did I hope he would have said Sorry man heres a couple bucks for your trouble, yes. Is that wrong? Not imo. Obviously some feel different, please do block me then. Because I also sell and I would never treat a customer like this. I don't want to spend my hard earned money with YOU! So block away. Ill do the same

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 09:31 PM
I never said you threatened anyone. Calm down a little bit.

Correct. I didn't mean to imply you. but Ive been attacked. So now guns are out. Same with post^^ I should nt have quoted you cause really I'm still talking to Sherevecity

Wiseysez
05-25-2019, 09:41 PM
I did, nothing there,,` Seller in in NH, Its obvious from my ID where I live. ANother point seller had already left you feedback most everyone here know I have auto feedback that leaves it when I get it.

anyone wanting to block OP here ya go..

https://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=1stuner510&Dirn=Left+by&ref=home

Wow. Must be a pretty unlucky guy. In all my years on eBay I’ve never had to leave a neutral, let alone any negatives.

mrchipz
05-25-2019, 10:28 PM
I am missing exactly where the damage is and the reason for this thread?
Did you peel off the post it note and was there damage?
If not then just peel of the damn thing and move on. im sure there is no damage to the card at all so how is it not as described?
i have been shipped much high dollar cards in worse ways but as long as they come to me in the condition they were in when sold who cares.

mrchipz
05-25-2019, 10:31 PM
Wow. Must be a pretty unlucky guy. In all my years on eBay I’ve never had to leave a neutral, let alone any negatives.

thank you. will block op now he seems like a real winner...

as much as it is weird it came that way if there is no damage then he is just complaining about nothing and gaming the ebay system like so many terrible buyers do.

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 11:16 PM
thank you. will block op now he seems like a real winner...

as much as it is weird it came that way if there is no damage then he is just complaining about nothing and gaming the ebay system like so many terrible buyers do.

Thank you. I wouldn't want to buy anything from you. I spend a lot of money on cards and only ask that use don't put a post it note on it. If that is too much to ask then buy all means.. Look how many times I've left negative feedback... before you jump to conclusions. Ive received neutral or negative for taking one extra day to ship an item compared to handling time listed. So if you think I'm a problem you really don't use EBAY my feedback received and feedback left for other speaks. Ive been an upstanding member of EBAY for longer then most of you...

mrchipz
05-25-2019, 11:26 PM
Thank you. I wouldn't want to buy anything from you. I spend a lot of money on cards and only ask that use don't put a post it note on it. If that is too much to ask then buy all means.. Look how many times I've left negative feedback... before you jump to conclusions. Ive received neutral or negative for taking one extra day to ship an item compared to handling time listed. So if you think I'm a problem you really don't use EBAY my feedback received and feedback left for other speaks. Ive been an upstanding member of EBAY for longer then most of you...

Yeah just the type of member to block. No i dont really use ebay. just have sold over a million dollars in sales on it in the past 10 years.
god bless

GavinD82
05-25-2019, 11:37 PM
Wow, how can you be in the card game and not know that 'condition is everything!'. I ship everything as if it was glass. Lucky the post-it note didnt rip any of the back off. Even if it does look alright it could of been even better before it got shipped, although if he ships cards like that he probably frisby's them to his mates you never know.

I love how he gives you the POP report....haha, thats so crazy considering how he shipped it

Goldminer
05-25-2019, 11:40 PM
Yeah just the type of member to block. No i dont really use ebay. just have sold over a million dollars in sales on it in the past 10 years.
god bless

Bye Felicia! What ever will I do without access to your amazing deals and cards that I need? I need nothing from you.
God bless right back at you

mrchipz
05-25-2019, 11:47 PM
Wow, how can you be in the card game and not know that 'condition is everything!'. I ship everything as if it was glass. Lucky the post-it note didnt rip any of the back off. Even if it does look alright it could of been even better before it got shipped, although if he ships cards like that he probably frisby's them to his mates you never know.

I love how he gives you the POP report....haha, thats so crazy considering how he shipped it

But the card arrived in stated condition.... so what is the issue?

elee712
05-26-2019, 12:00 AM
Perhaps you ask him to pay BuyNiceCards to look at it. Not only will he make it right, but he can even make it BETTER!

jkl165116
05-26-2019, 12:14 AM
I did, nothing there,,` Seller in in NH, Its obvious from my ID where I live. ANother point seller had already left you feedback most everyone here know I have auto feedback that leaves it when I get it.

anyone wanting to block OP here ya go..

https://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=1stuner510&Dirn=Left+by&ref=home

My goodness... thanks for sharing

GavinD82
05-26-2019, 12:55 AM
But the card arrived in stated condition.... so what is the issue?

If it arrived fine than all good, just saying condition is everything with this hobby and even if it was stated as packaged that way that is still not what you want to hear/see in this hobby

mrchipz
05-26-2019, 12:57 AM
If it arrived fine than all good, just saying condition is everything with this hobby and even if it was stated as packaged that way that is still not what you want to hear/see in this hobby

agree, but the card arrived fine. so no need for this bs thread.
also, post it notes adhesive was specifically designed to leave no residue at all to any surface it is peeled off of.
Take 20 cards put post it notes on them and then peel the post it note off the next day. there will be zero issues.
think of how many things we use post it notes on on a daily basis. does it ever damage anything? nope! been using them for over 20 years

chiefsncards275
05-26-2019, 01:15 AM
Man, this was an entertaining thread. If your gonna put a post it note on it why not just put it on the top loader? Doesn’t make much sense to me. Regardless, OP you really aren’t making yourself look real good here...


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xmfx
05-26-2019, 01:30 AM
You okay Goldminer?

chezball
05-26-2019, 02:01 AM
I love these type threads, OP makes a call out thread and end up on members BBL.

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 02:19 AM
there is always plenty of sellers in this hobby. A good buyer is hard to find. Penny sleeve, top loader in between cardboard. Is it that freaking hard? I guess a team bag is to much to ask? lol. $200.00 card.

Doing me a favor! Block till your heart is content. Plenty of people with sense that would love to have my money/ business.

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1980bust
05-26-2019, 03:22 AM
I just read this entire thread and I still have no idea how the seller was supposed to "make it right" if the card wasn't damaged? Maybe send OP a penny sleeve inside a top loader inside another envelope or something? Either way, 6/10, probably wouldn't read again.

salthill
05-26-2019, 09:03 AM
I spend a lot of money on cards and only ask that use don't put a post it note on it. If that is too much to ask then buy all means..

Except that’s not what you “only ask”. You explicitly threaten someone with negative feedback if they don’t send you money/goods when you receive an undamaged card. Unless making it right somehow involves rainbows and unicorns?

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 10:01 AM
Except that’s not what you “only ask”. You explicitly threaten someone with negative feedback if they don’t send you money/goods when you receive an undamaged card. Unless making it right somehow involves rainbows and unicorns?Again.. I could have just filed a claim without saying a word to anyone and I would have been refunded we all know that...

Think what you want, but a sincere acknowledgement of the carelessness could have been sufficient.. But I get told to kick rocks instead.

Look at my feedback history over 10 years! In the end the transaction was a negative experience for me. So he gets negative feedback.

If any arrogant sellers who think they don't need their customers business just because they weren't satisfied with a purchase. You won't be in business long.

You say threaten. I say giving him a chance. It was a lose lose situation for me. Nothing I could have done other then take what I get, keep my mouth shut and be happy about my post it note and unsleeved card would please some of you.

Good riddance.



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glen87
05-26-2019, 10:09 AM
Again.. I could have just filed a claim without saying a word to anyone and I would have been refunded we all know that...

Think what you want, but a sincere acknowledgement of the carelessness could have been sufficient.. But I get told to kick rocks instead.

Look at my feedback history over 10 years! In the end the transaction was a negative experience for me. So he gets negative feedback.

If any arrogant sellers who think they don't need their customers business just because they weren't satisfied with a purchase. You won't be in business long.

You say threaten. I say giving him a chance. It was a lose lose situation for me. Nothing I could have done other then take what I get, keep my mouth shut and be happy about my post it note and unsleeved card would please some of you.

Good riddance.



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yes, you would have been refunded, but you would have had to return the card. by not doing this, it shows you wanted to keep the card. otherwise you would have opened the case immediately.

so at that point, any request for the seller would essentially become a request for a partial refund.

look at your feedback LEFT history -

https://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=1stuner510&Dirn=Left+by&ref=home

"even if you buy Monday they wont ship till SAT. TOOK 10 DAYS TO GET&ME NO LIKEY"

"Dont expect timely ship. Immediate payment,3.00 ship price...waited 14 days WOW!"

"Item pictured in screwdown holder/shipped w/o sleeve in old cardsaver $4 ship!!!"

"Card shipped with a stamp in a plain envelope with no padding" (multiple similar to this one)

"3 bucks shipping for a plain white envelope and no tape on the top loader?BOO!!"

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 10:16 AM
yes, you would have been refunded, but you would have had to return the card. by not doing this, it shows you wanted to keep the card. otherwise you would have opened the case immediately.



so at that point, any request for the seller would essentially become a request for a partial refund.



look at your feedback LEFT history -



https://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=1stuner510&Dirn=Left+by&ref=home



"even if you buy Monday they wont ship till SAT. TOOK 10 DAYS TO GET&ME NO LIKEY"



"Dont expect timely ship. Immediate payment,3.00 ship price...waited 14 days WOW!"



"Item pictured in screwdown holder/shipped w/o sleeve in old cardsaver $4 ship!!!"



"Card shipped with a stamp in a plain envelope with no padding" (multiple similar to this one)



"3 bucks shipping for a plain white envelope and no tape on the top loader?BOO!!"All positive feedback!!! The arrogance in this forum is astounding!. I'm a customer. I am aloud to not be satisfied with the service I recieve. So if you go to McDonald's and order a burger with cheese. you get home and NO cheese. Are you not allowed to go back and complain. do I want my money back? Do I want you to make me another one? Who cares just fix it. #@#@#@#@... your incompetence is not my fault.

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salthill
05-26-2019, 10:19 AM
Again.. I could have just filed a claim without saying a word to anyone and I would have been refunded we all know that...
Don’t forget you would have to return the card which was in the exact condition it was listed.

Think what you want, but a sincere acknowledgement of the carelessness could have been sufficient.. But I get told to kick rocks instead.
You got what you bought. Sure you can be upset about how they shipped it (as I would be too), but that’s not how eBay works. It’s on the seller to get the card to you safely and they did. Wanting to alert them to poor shipping is one thing, but you fell off your high horse when you threatened them.

If any arrogant sellers who think they don't need their customers business just because they weren't satisfied with a purchase. You won't be in business long.
There’s your answer. Call them out here so other people know how they ship. And don’t buy from them again. But don’t threaten them by message on eBay when you’re well aware that “make it right” is commonly understood to be a request for money.

You say threaten. I say giving him a chance. It was a lose lose situation for me. It was a win win situation for you. At worst you got a perfect card. And then had a shot that the seller would interpret “make it right” as a demand for money (especially given that it was accompanied by a threat of negative feedback) and reduce the price of the card for you.


Nothing I could have done other then take what I get, keep my mouth shut and be happy about my post it note and unsleeved card would please some of you.
How about instead you contact the seller and let them know you were unhappy with how they shopped the card, and leave out the threat?

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 10:20 AM
I'm done with this.... say whatever

Silly internet kids just want to argue... See ya when I see ya! Bet you have a different attitude

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salthill
05-26-2019, 10:22 AM
I'm done with this.... say whatever

Silly internet kids just want to argue... See ya when I see ya! Bet you have a different attitude

Hah, so threats really are out of character for you.

glen87
05-26-2019, 10:26 AM
I'm done with this.... say whatever

Silly internet kids just want to argue... See ya when I see ya! Bet you have a different attitude

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says the one who uses "ME NO LIKEY" in ebay feedback :rolleyes:

chezball
05-26-2019, 11:24 AM
there is always plenty of sellers in this hobby. A good buyer is hard to find. Penny sleeve, top loader in between cardboard. Is it that freaking hard? I guess a team bag is to much to ask? lol. $200.00 card.

Doing me a favor! Block till your heart is content. Plenty of people with sense that would love to have my money/ business.

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chezball
05-26-2019, 11:27 AM
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shrevecity
05-26-2019, 12:59 PM
All positive feedback!!! The arrogance in this forum is astounding!. I'm a customer. I am aloud to not be satisfied with the service I recieve. So if you go to McDonald's and order a burger with cheese. you get home and NO cheese. Are you not allowed to go back and complain. do I want my money back? Do I want you to make me another one? Who cares just fix it. #@#@#@#@... your incompetence is not my fault.

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None of that was positive feedback left by you. Also you said earlier the only neg you have gotten was for late shipping. Are you gonna stick to that as well?

ThoseBackPages
05-26-2019, 01:07 PM
well, this took a turn

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 01:18 PM
None of that was positive feedback left by you. Also you said earlier the only neg you have gotten was for late shipping. Are you gonna stick to that as well?

This is one of the feedback she mentioned. I don't know how to easily look them up like she did, But is GREEN NOT POSITIVE?!?!??!?!

Shrevecity your are a troll at best. Go do something productive with your life, and grow up. What would the forum do with out all you riveting post about USPS price increases and box sizes? Seriously all your threads are like hall monitor, security card, gotta show everyone how on top of #@#@#@#@ you are clown post. You must have a LOT of friends...You work for Securitas don't you?

Positive feedback rating As described but slow shipping and poor packaging

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 01:25 PM
None of that was positive feedback left by you. Also you said earlier the only neg you have gotten was for late shipping. Are you gonna stick to that as well?

Looks pretty good to me! And that was over a year ago... whats your point exactly? Your care WAYYY to much

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 01:41 PM
This is the FIRST PM Shrevecity sent me. Attacked me with no cause. I didn't PM him he came at me. I Had given him no information on my EBAY ID...Pretty inflammatory accusations for somebody that is not connected to the seller..... he also found out who the seller was on his own AND talked to him in a matter of minutes from when i posted the thread...

Imsorry some of you are getting a bad impression of me, but really Im pretty chill guy. BUT I will not sit there while you insult me. Either your getting insulted back or your ass kicked or both.

I have talked to the seller and know you are LYING.,

Also there is no way that post it note was in that card saver that smoothly. You are a liar.

AnthonyCorona
05-26-2019, 01:56 PM
This thread! Me likey


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I only pull for
05-26-2019, 01:59 PM
I did, nothing there,,` Seller in in NH, Its obvious from my ID where I live. ANother point seller had already left you feedback most everyone here know I have auto feedback that leaves it when I get it.

anyone wanting to block OP here ya go..

https://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=1stuner510&Dirn=Left+by&ref=home

Thanks for posting this. Looks like this OP has a history of extorting sellers with negative feedback.

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 02:06 PM
Thanks for posting this. Looks like this OP has a history of extorting sellers with negative feedback.

A history of extorting?? The last non positive feedback I gave said "Poor finish quality" i never messaged that seller...the feedback was NEUTRAL and over a year ago. I buy almost every day... Im not allowed to leave feedback when I'm not happy? WTH are you talking about...

"More than a year ago"....

Another interesting factoid about by neutral or negative feedback left for other is almost every single one of them now have this next to there name

"No longer a registered user"

glen87
05-26-2019, 02:06 PM
This thread! Me likey


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shrevecity
05-26-2019, 02:08 PM
A history of extorting?? The last non positive feedback I gave was NEUTRAL and over a year ago. I buy almost every day... WTH are you talking about.

"More than a year ago"....

What about the neg you left yesterday?

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 02:11 PM
what about the neg you left yesterday?

what about it?!?!?!!?!?!?!!!?!?

One transaction!!!!!!!!! Gtfo

glen87
05-26-2019, 02:13 PM
What about the neg you left yesterday?

for this curry.


Negative feedback rating POOR & NEGLIGENT SHIPPING. POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE- AVOID SELLER!!! Seller: jclcjs_t0rksls0et

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 02:14 PM
for this curry.


Negative feedback rating POOR & NEGLIGENT SHIPPING. POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE- AVOID SELLER!!! Seller: jclcjs_t0rksls0et

Feed back is accurate

shrevecity
05-26-2019, 02:14 PM
Which should be removable if seller calls ebay

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 02:16 PM
Which should be removable if seller calls ebay

SOOOO what? WHAT is your damn point? Are you the security guard of feedback? Is that on you Securitas badge?

Orangejello727
05-26-2019, 02:24 PM
How many of the guys supporting the seller put sticky post it notes on the cards they ship out to their buyers?

If you dont, please explain to me why you dont throw a sticky post it note on to the card?

Why is it so hard for a seller to use proper standards for care and shipping of cards?? You wouldnt want anything sticky on your purchased cards, so why would you put one on a card you are selling? Let alone leaving it one and shipping it knowing full well it could raise an issue? I mean seriously.. . who does that?

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 02:31 PM
How many of the guys supporting the seller put sticky post it notes on the cards they ship out to their buyers?

If you dont, please explain to me why you dont throw a sticky post it note on to the card?

Why is it so hard for a seller to use proper standards for care and shipping of cards?? You wouldnt want anything sticky on your purchased cards, so why would you put one on a card you are selling? Let alone leaving it one and shipping it knowing full well it could raise an issue? I mean seriously.. . who does that?

Amen brother.. Amen!

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 02:43 PM
Shrevecity reminds me of DAY-DAY

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiH05rt-bniAhXpmOAKHVgmDc4QjRx6BAgBEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quickmeme.com%2Fmeme%2F3pdho2&psig=AOvVaw09Z-xzEWX102rcMUch1Z8Q&ust=1558986070669007

ThoseBackPages
05-26-2019, 03:19 PM
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jkl165116
05-26-2019, 04:36 PM
How many of the guys supporting the seller put sticky post it notes on the cards they ship out to their buyers?

If you dont, please explain to me why you dont throw a sticky post it note on to the card?

Why is it so hard for a seller to use proper standards for care and shipping of cards?? You wouldnt want anything sticky on your purchased cards, so why would you put one on a card you are selling? Let alone leaving it one and shipping it knowing full well it could raise an issue? I mean seriously.. . who does that?

I highly doubt that anyone actually supports the sellers shipping methods (the no penny sleeve, the post it, and the card saver.) Even though the card came undamaged— almost everyone early on in the thread agreed with the buyer and thought the shipping method was completely unacceptable.

The reason why I added op to block list is because of his actions afterwards. From His first message via ebay to his childish comments on the boards. Does not seem like someone I would want to do business with ever.

OP i do see your reason for being upset though

Goldminer
05-26-2019, 05:25 PM
OP i do see your reason for being upset though

I don't even come on here much.. I finally had a good reason to post something and Shrevecity jumps my #@#@#@#@...

How is this for a welcome to the boards PM. Ive never had any interaction with this guy, ever and this is what he sends me:

I have talked to the seller and know you are LYING.,

Also there is no way that post it note was in that card saver that smoothly. You are a liar.

Thats whats got me pissed off. You call me a liar? That you "know" I'm lying.. BOLD TALK. ...and you'd be wrong ya know...


..... I had this funny idea the other day to buy a card on Ebay, then claim on blowout that it came all effed up and then see what everyones reaction would be. Then just stir the pot until everyone blocks me.... yep That was the plan. Isn't it funny?