How is Ebays managed payments working now that they have incorporated Paypal?

[shrevecity]

Have not heard much about how this transition is working anyone have any experiences?

Its getting closer to whenwe are all going to have to enroll or not sell on Ebay. Just curious how its working out.

[Cavaliercards]

2021 is the year where everyone has to have switched I believe, 2020 it will be only option for newbies?

[shrevecity]

2021 is the year where everyone has to have switched I believe, 2020 it will be only option for newbies?

Even then its going to be required and if the transition to Paypal is working right then I see no reason not to make the switch now.

[Cavaliercards]

Even then its going to be required and if the transition to Paypal is working right then I see no reason not to make the switch now.

I will wait for the issues to be worked before switching, but earliest required is 2020. At least everything I see says as much.

[shrevecity]

I will wait for the issues to be worked before switching, but in 2020 I didnt think it was required. At least everything I see says as much.

I have been seeing different stories on that. Have seen some sellers sites saying there is talk of a soft rollout where some sellers in addition to new sellers will be required while others are not yet. And that 2021 is when they expect full integration(and Ebay uses that term in regards to 2021.) If that is true then how are they going to select those sellers is it random or by primary categories or what.

[Cavaliercards]

I have been seeing different stories on that. Have seen some sellers sites saying there is talk of a soft rollout where some sellers in addition to new sellers will be required while others are not yet. And that 2021 is when they expect full integration(and Ebay uses that term in regards to 2021.) If that is true then how are they going to select those sellers is it random or by primary categories or what.

Our eBay rep told us that new sellers will have to do it and that it will be slow-rolled into 2021 by choice.

[rwperu34]

Even then its going to be required and if the transition to Paypal is working right then I see no reason not to make the switch now.

My reason would be micropayments.

[shrevecity]

My reason would be micropayments.

The fees are less than micropayments and will be less even when they go up. YOu don't have that transaction fee which is what makes the micropayments more attractive.

[BoxBreaker72]

Every time I sign in to my account, it tries to make me join before I see my home page.

I would be all for it if they didn't hold your money for a day or two before you get your money. That's ridiculous.

[rwperu34]

The fees are less than micropayments and will be less even when they go up. YOu don't have that transaction fee which is what makes the micropayments more attractive.

I heard (via Brentandbecca twitter) it's going to be 25¢ per item starting in October with no micropayment option. That's 25¢ per item, not per transaction.

[Coolstavi]

I heard (via Brentandbecca twitter) it's going to be 25¢ per item starting in October with no micropayment option. That's 25¢ per item, not per transaction.

Is that for those who joined after that June deadline?

[shrevecity]

Is that for those who joined after that June deadline?

Looks like its going to be everyone after October 1st. I mentioned it way back when Ebay started collecting sales tax they would find a way to charge sellers for it. This is likely how they are doing it. Ebay also said many years ago they wanted to reduce the low end sellers a 25 cent per item would do that. However reading that if you use variations and other multi item listings you can reduce that. Because if they buy multiple items from the same listing they are counting that as one item.

THat fee explains why prices of PWE items in other categories have increased significantly over the past few weeks. Add 30 cents to each item and you cover that additional fee plus the percentage. Pretty easy work around even for PWE sellers.

[Coolstavi]

Looks like its going to be everyone after October 1st. I mentioned it way back when Ebay started collecting sales tax they would find a way to charge sellers for it. This is likely how they are doing it. Ebay also said many years ago they wanted to reduce the low end sellers a 25 cent per item would do that. However reading that if you use variations and other multi item listings you can reduce that. Because if they buy multiple items from the same listing they are counting that as one item.

THat fee explains why prices of PWE items in other categories have increased significantly over the past few weeks. Add 30 cents to each item and you cover that additional fee plus the percentage. Pretty easy work around even for PWE sellers.

Well, how should we interpret this?

'If (a) you have successfully completed the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) prior to 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time on June 4, 2019 and (b) your eBay account has remained continuously enabled for managed payments: Your payments processing fees are calculated as 2.7% of the total order amount, including shipping, handling, sales tax and other amounts owed (the “payments processing rate”).

If you successfully complete the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) on or after June 4, 2019 (starting at 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time): Your payments processing fees are calculated as (i) the payments processing rate plus (ii) $0.25 per listing sold (the “per listing payments fee”). Notwithstanding the foregoing clause (ii), for sellers who onboard to managed payments on or after June 4, 2019 the per listing payments fee is waived through September 30, 2019 at 23:59:59 Pacific Time (11:59 PM plus 59 seconds) and will take effect beginning October 1, 2019 at 00:00:00 Pacific Time (12:00 AM)'

So if you are in before this time, you should only pay the 2.7% if I read this correctly?

[shrevecity]

Well, how should we interpret this?

'If (a) you have successfully completed the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) prior to 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time on June 4, 2019 and (b) your eBay account has remained continuously enabled for managed payments: Your payments processing fees are calculated as 2.7% of the total order amount, including shipping, handling, sales tax and other amounts owed (the “payments processing rate”).

If you successfully complete the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) on or after June 4, 2019 (starting at 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time): Your payments processing fees are calculated as (i) the payments processing rate plus (ii) $0.25 per listing sold (the “per listing payments fee”). Notwithstanding the foregoing clause (ii), for sellers who onboard to managed payments on or after June 4, 2019 the per listing payments fee is waived through September 30, 2019 at 23:59:59 Pacific Time (11:59 PM plus 59 seconds) and will take effect beginning October 1, 2019 at 00:00:00 Pacific Time (12:00 AM)'

So if you are in before this time, you should only pay the 2.7% if I read this correctly?

Ebay is good at doing things like that to confuse so they can say we told you even when they really did not.

[Coolstavi]

I called Ebay just to see what they would say. The lady said she had never heard about it (or the email sent out on May 21 talking about the above mentioned fee increase). She said she was in managed payments herself and hadn't heard anything about this. Just a very odd conversation...

[rwperu34]

Looks like its going to be everyone after October 1st. I mentioned it way back when Ebay started collecting sales tax they would find a way to charge sellers for it. This is likely how they are doing it. Ebay also said many years ago they wanted to reduce the low end sellers a 25 cent per item would do that. However reading that if you use variations and other multi item listings you can reduce that. Because if they buy multiple items from the same listing they are counting that as one item.

THat fee explains why prices of PWE items in other categories have increased significantly over the past few weeks. Add 30 cents to each item and you cover that additional fee plus the percentage. Pretty easy work around even for PWE sellers.

That's good news re: variations.

Shouldn't eBay be doing all they can to encourage low starting price auctions? IMO, the more they become like Amazon the more market they are going to lose. Ebay needs to get back to its roots and encourage people to list 1¢/FS or 99¢/FS auctions and let it ride. That's how you get people checking the site more frequently.

[shrevecity]

That's good news re: variations.

Shouldn't eBay be doing all they can to encourage low starting price auctions? IMO, the more they become like Amazon the more market they are going to lose. Ebay needs to get back to its roots and encourage people to list 1¢/FS or 99¢/FS auctions and let it ride. That's how you get people checking the site more frequently.

They have done everything they can to do away with auctions in the past it has only been in the past year or so they have turned it to wanting more auctions.

[tier1dc]

got this email from ebay today. looks annoying. love the corporate speak in some of these descriptions too.

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[tier1dc]

Now eBay is trying "contests" to get people to sign up for managed payments.

Now I can tell this is bad idea. Why else would they need to stack no chance incentives otherwise?

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[shrevecity]

Got this email today. Sounds like they maybe pushing up the managed payment requirements.

Our records indicate you have been previously invited to managed payments - eBay’s simplified seller experience to sell and get paid. Based on our review of your account, the features and tools you use on eBay are fully compatible with managed payments. To benefit from the new payments experience early, register at ebay.com/paymentsregistration. All eBay sellers will progressively be required to transition to managed payments in the coming months.

Managed payments offers more ways for buyers to pay with credit, debit and gift cards, Apple Pay, Google Pay, PayPal and PayPal Credit. Payouts will be automatically deposited to your bank account. Sellers receive consolidated reports, simplified seller protections, one monthly bill for all fees, and access to dedicated customer support. New features include a single unique number from order initiation to payout, and the ability to issue partial or full refunds to buyers, directly on eBay or via a third-party platform. Sellers who have already joined report high satisfaction and recommend managed payments to other sellers. To learn more about managed payments, visit ebay.com/payments.

Signing up now will allow you to choose the best time to join for your business, and avail of any existing promotions. These include the Summer Sign Up program available till August 31, 2019 and the $0 per listing payments fee through September 30, 2019. Please check your email account or Messages on My eBay for more details

[shrevecity]

Paypal also sent out a message about it regarding Paypal working capital loans and how they will be affected.

[Sets2]

Got this email today. Sounds like they maybe pushing up the managed payment requirements.

Our records indicate you have been previously invited to managed payments - eBay’s simplified seller experience to sell and get paid. Based on our review of your account, the features and tools you use on eBay are fully compatible with managed payments. To benefit from the new payments experience early, register at ebay.com/paymentsregistration. All eBay sellers will progressively be required to transition to managed payments in the coming months.

Managed payments offers more ways for buyers to pay with credit, debit and gift cards, Apple Pay, Google Pay, PayPal and PayPal Credit. Payouts will be automatically deposited to your bank account. Sellers receive consolidated reports, simplified seller protections, one monthly bill for all fees, and access to dedicated customer support. New features include a single unique number from order initiation to payout, and the ability to issue partial or full refunds to buyers, directly on eBay or via a third-party platform. Sellers who have already joined report high satisfaction and recommend managed payments to other sellers. To learn more about managed payments, visit ebay.com/payments.

Signing up now will allow you to choose the best time to join for your business, and avail of any existing promotions. These include the Summer Sign Up program available till August 31, 2019 and the $0 per listing payments fee through September 30, 2019. Please check your email account or Messages on My eBay for more details

I got the same one, what's your take on this?

[shrevecity]

I got the same one, what's your take on this?

Sounds to me they are moving up the required date for all sellers to be switched over.

[tier1dc]

Sounds to me they are moving up the required date for all sellers to be switched over.

I think it's just suggestive phrasing by ebay. "Coming months" can mean years in legal speak.

The message inside ebay says
"All sellers will eventually move to managed payments"
in the subject line.

Guess it wouldn't be too surprising for them the pull the rug out from under people but doubt it will happen that quickly.

That being said this managed payments thing seems like a real scam. Charged upfront fees for items without GSP, without immediate payment (2-4 Business days until paid?), only domestic transactions.

This is stupid.

And I really hate that they're highlighting the

"Streamline your returns and refunds processes
Easily process refunds and partial refunds directly on eBay. Starting in summer 2019,
refund a percentage of the original order price – up to 100%."
WTF? Who thought that was a selling point.

I really dislike the idea of having to ship out an item before I actually get paid. This is going to open up a whole new avenue for people to scam ebay.

Orders and shipping
To ensure your buyers have a great shopping experience, and to maintain your seller level and Top Rated Status, you'll still need to ship orders promptly. You should ship items as soon as you see the “awaiting shipment” status on the Manage Orders page in Seller Hub – even if you haven't received the funds in your bank account yet. Don't worry, we'll only display this status once we've confirmed the buyer's payment.

Don't worry....yeah okay. because ebay is super easy to work with and always wants to help sellers.

This is an insane concept. Ship without getting paid.

[shrevecity]

This is all been in works for years new sellers often have money held. Large sellers sometimes have to have a certain amount held. On Amazon that is the way it yas always been. Even with paypal the money is not really yours for 180 days, they can still make you refund it.

I am all for eliminating paypal from the equation. Just one less hurdle. The refund thing is nothing that has not already been in place its just being more streamlined.

Most the sellers i know on it love it. Only reason i have not made the switch is due to a working capital loan i have opne right now.

[Cujobyte]

Ebay can suck a nut as far as I'm concerned. I'm switching my whole business over to Amazon and selling at con's only moving forward. Been with Ebay since 1999 but they simply do nothing to protect sellers under "business" plan model anymore. #endrant lol.

[shrevecity]

Ebay can suck a nut as far as I'm concerned. I'm switching my whole business over to Amazon and selling at con's only moving forward. Been with Ebay since 1999 but they simply do nothing to protect sellers under "business" plan model anymore. #endrant lol.

Lol. Amazon is even worse when it comes to protecting sellers. I have won more cases as a seller in the past year on Ebay than I have lost. If you know the system its easy to win cases.

At least with Ebay if the item shows delivered they do not hold the sellers liable as long as everything was done correctly. Had a friend of mine sold something via FBA(where Amazon handles the shipping) The buyer clais they never got it but tracking showed it had been received Amazon forced my friend to refund.

They will ban sellers for even the stupidest things and then they hold the money up to 2 weeks and if they ban you and they owe you money its like pulling teeth getting it back, and you will not if you have FBA items as you will be forced to pay them to send the items back.

[BoxBreaker72]

2-4 days to get paid. ebay can gft.

[shrevecity]

2-4 days to get paid. ebay can gft.

Most are saying they are getting the payment the next business day. It will be up to your bank, but Ebay makes the electronic deposit once per day apparently. Just like transferring money from Paypal to your bank Paypal says 3 to 5 days but if I do it before 10PM its in my bank the next day.

[dbackschamp2001]

I always have the money in my account the next day.

I don't like that you can't refund a buyer without them opening a return. So if you feel you overcharged for shipping, the buyer has to open a return for you to partially refund.

Also GSP doesn't work for it, but it still says I'll ship internationally, so I get a lot of people internationally making purchases.

My final issue with it is just that it would be nice if they'd take the fees out directly instead of depositing the money just for me to send it back to them.

[Cavaliercards]

Wonder how easy it is if you need to switch bank accounts or can you have payment options for items like you can now?

[Cavaliercards]

Also, we pay taxes but will eBay be doing 1099 now?

[shrevecity]

I always have the money in my account the next day.

I don't like that you can't refund a buyer without them opening a return. So if you feel you overcharged for shipping, the buyer has to open a return for you to partially refund.

Also GSP doesn't work for it, but it still says I'll ship internationally, so I get a lot of people internationally making purchases.

My final issue with it is just that it would be nice if they'd take the fees out directly instead of depositing the money just for me to send it back to them.

I am actually hoping they do work that in where the FVFs come out directly when payment is made.

That does suck about the refund part, guess its another way Ebay is forcing sellers hands on free shipping.

[shrevecity]

Also, we pay taxes but will eBay be doing 1099 now?

That is another question I have had.

[crtsports]

Also, we pay taxes but will eBay be doing 1099 now?

Yes they will be.

[Cavaliercards]

Yes they will be.

I saw in 2018 it was a cluster for people that switched part way through year

[crtsports]

I saw in 2018 it was a cluster for people that switched part way through year

I have been on managed payments since October and never had a problem. I am a big fan of the program.

[hairysasquatch]

Will the same $20k/x transactions as apply now for a 1099 from PayPal be in effect for a 1099 from ebay?

[crtsports]

Will the same $20k/x transactions as apply now for a 1099 from PayPal be in effect for a 1099 from ebay?

From my discussions with ebay in February, the $20k will certainly trigger it but I didn't ask about a transaction count.

[shrevecity]

Will the same $20k/x transactions as apply now for a 1099 from PayPal be in effect for a 1099 from ebay?

They can send it for any amount. I got one from paypal a few years back for 17000 in sales. That is a guideline not a requirement

[Miss Lizzy]

I always have the money in my account the next day.

I don't like that you can't refund a buyer without them opening a return. So if you feel you overcharged for shipping, the buyer has to open a return for you to partially refund.

Also GSP doesn't work for it, but it still says I'll ship internationally, so I get a lot of people internationally making purchases.

My final issue with it is just that it would be nice if they'd take the fees out directly instead of depositing the money just for me to send it back to them.

I was able to send a refund the other day to an international customer where the shipping was quite a bit less than what was calculated. Maybe it just has to be done before the payment has finished processing?

[crtsports]

You have been able to process partial refunds for a few months now.

[dbackschamp2001]

You have been able to process partial refunds for a few months now.

I'm still not able to without the buyer initiating a return. Do you know how to send a partial refund on your own?

[cowboyfaninlr]

With a 25 cent per item fee I will be moving all my inventory to COMC. I think my ebay days are done and I have deleted all items from my store. Much rather pay COMC a 30 cent fee to do all the work. Adios FeeBay

[shrevecity]

With a 25 cent per item fee I will be moving all my inventory to COMC. I think my ebay days are done and I have deleted all items from my store. Much rather pay COMC a 30 cent fee to do all the work. Adios FeeBay

Variations will be your friend. Its not hard to build 25 cents into every listing. Comc is now a complete joke. I am moving the opposite direction. 30 cents plus roughly another 15 percent comes out about the same fee wise

[crtsports]

I'm still not able to without the buyer initiating a return. Do you know how to send a partial refund on your own?

On the print label drop down box there is an option for refund. That is how you can process a partial refund.

[dbackschamp2001]

I tried setting up a donation listing, but apparently managed payments doesn't work to do donations.