How is Ebays managed payments working now that they have incorporated Paypal?

[shrevecity]

Have not heard much about how this transition is working anyone have any experiences?

Its getting closer to whenwe are all going to have to enroll or not sell on Ebay. Just curious how its working out.

[Cavaliercards]

2021 is the year where everyone has to have switched I believe, 2020 it will be only option for newbies?

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

2021 is the year where everyone has to have switched I believe, 2020 it will be only option for newbies?

Even then its going to be required and if the transition to Paypal is working right then I see no reason not to make the switch now.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

Even then its going to be required and if the transition to Paypal is working right then I see no reason not to make the switch now.

I will wait for the issues to be worked before switching, but earliest required is 2020. At least everything I see says as much.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

I will wait for the issues to be worked before switching, but in 2020 I didnt think it was required. At least everything I see says as much.

I have been seeing different stories on that. Have seen some sellers sites saying there is talk of a soft rollout where some sellers in addition to new sellers will be required while others are not yet. And that 2021 is when they expect full integration(and Ebay uses that term in regards to 2021.) If that is true then how are they going to select those sellers is it random or by primary categories or what.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

I have been seeing different stories on that. Have seen some sellers sites saying there is talk of a soft rollout where some sellers in addition to new sellers will be required while others are not yet. And that 2021 is when they expect full integration(and Ebay uses that term in regards to 2021.) If that is true then how are they going to select those sellers is it random or by primary categories or what.

Our eBay rep told us that new sellers will have to do it and that it will be slow-rolled into 2021 by choice.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

Even then its going to be required and if the transition to Paypal is working right then I see no reason not to make the switch now.

My reason would be micropayments.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

My reason would be micropayments.

The fees are less than micropayments and will be less even when they go up. YOu don't have that transaction fee which is what makes the micropayments more attractive.

[BoxBreaker72]

Every time I sign in to my account, it tries to make me join before I see my home page.

I would be all for it if they didn't hold your money for a day or two before you get your money. That's ridiculous.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

The fees are less than micropayments and will be less even when they go up. YOu don't have that transaction fee which is what makes the micropayments more attractive.

I heard (via Brentandbecca twitter) it's going to be 25¢ per item starting in October with no micropayment option. That's 25¢ per item, not per transaction.

[Coolstavi]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

I heard (via Brentandbecca twitter) it's going to be 25¢ per item starting in October with no micropayment option. That's 25¢ per item, not per transaction.

Is that for those who joined after that June deadline?

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by Coolstavi

Is that for those who joined after that June deadline?

Looks like its going to be everyone after October 1st. I mentioned it way back when Ebay started collecting sales tax they would find a way to charge sellers for it. This is likely how they are doing it. Ebay also said many years ago they wanted to reduce the low end sellers a 25 cent per item would do that. However reading that if you use variations and other multi item listings you can reduce that. Because if they buy multiple items from the same listing they are counting that as one item.

THat fee explains why prices of PWE items in other categories have increased significantly over the past few weeks. Add 30 cents to each item and you cover that additional fee plus the percentage. Pretty easy work around even for PWE sellers.

[Coolstavi]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

Looks like its going to be everyone after October 1st. I mentioned it way back when Ebay started collecting sales tax they would find a way to charge sellers for it. This is likely how they are doing it. Ebay also said many years ago they wanted to reduce the low end sellers a 25 cent per item would do that. However reading that if you use variations and other multi item listings you can reduce that. Because if they buy multiple items from the same listing they are counting that as one item.

THat fee explains why prices of PWE items in other categories have increased significantly over the past few weeks. Add 30 cents to each item and you cover that additional fee plus the percentage. Pretty easy work around even for PWE sellers.

Well, how should we interpret this?

'If (a) you have successfully completed the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) prior to 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time on June 4, 2019 and (b) your eBay account has remained continuously enabled for managed payments: Your payments processing fees are calculated as 2.7% of the total order amount, including shipping, handling, sales tax and other amounts owed (the “payments processing rate”).

If you successfully complete the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) on or after June 4, 2019 (starting at 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time): Your payments processing fees are calculated as (i) the payments processing rate plus (ii) $0.25 per listing sold (the “per listing payments fee”). Notwithstanding the foregoing clause (ii), for sellers who onboard to managed payments on or after June 4, 2019 the per listing payments fee is waived through September 30, 2019 at 23:59:59 Pacific Time (11:59 PM plus 59 seconds) and will take effect beginning October 1, 2019 at 00:00:00 Pacific Time (12:00 AM)'

So if you are in before this time, you should only pay the 2.7% if I read this correctly?

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by Coolstavi

Well, how should we interpret this?

'If (a) you have successfully completed the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) prior to 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time on June 4, 2019 and (b) your eBay account has remained continuously enabled for managed payments: Your payments processing fees are calculated as 2.7% of the total order amount, including shipping, handling, sales tax and other amounts owed (the “payments processing rate”).

If you successfully complete the managed payments onboarding process (in accordance with Section 4) on or after June 4, 2019 (starting at 00:00:00 (12:00 AM) Pacific Time): Your payments processing fees are calculated as (i) the payments processing rate plus (ii) $0.25 per listing sold (the “per listing payments fee”). Notwithstanding the foregoing clause (ii), for sellers who onboard to managed payments on or after June 4, 2019 the per listing payments fee is waived through September 30, 2019 at 23:59:59 Pacific Time (11:59 PM plus 59 seconds) and will take effect beginning October 1, 2019 at 00:00:00 Pacific Time (12:00 AM)'

So if you are in before this time, you should only pay the 2.7% if I read this correctly?

Ebay is good at doing things like that to confuse so they can say we told you even when they really did not.

[Coolstavi]

I called Ebay just to see what they would say. The lady said she had never heard about it (or the email sent out on May 21 talking about the above mentioned fee increase). She said she was in managed payments herself and hadn't heard anything about this. Just a very odd conversation...

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

Looks like its going to be everyone after October 1st. I mentioned it way back when Ebay started collecting sales tax they would find a way to charge sellers for it. This is likely how they are doing it. Ebay also said many years ago they wanted to reduce the low end sellers a 25 cent per item would do that. However reading that if you use variations and other multi item listings you can reduce that. Because if they buy multiple items from the same listing they are counting that as one item.

THat fee explains why prices of PWE items in other categories have increased significantly over the past few weeks. Add 30 cents to each item and you cover that additional fee plus the percentage. Pretty easy work around even for PWE sellers.

That's good news re: variations.

Shouldn't eBay be doing all they can to encourage low starting price auctions? IMO, the more they become like Amazon the more market they are going to lose. Ebay needs to get back to its roots and encourage people to list 1¢/FS or 99¢/FS auctions and let it ride. That's how you get people checking the site more frequently.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

That's good news re: variations.

Shouldn't eBay be doing all they can to encourage low starting price auctions? IMO, the more they become like Amazon the more market they are going to lose. Ebay needs to get back to its roots and encourage people to list 1¢/FS or 99¢/FS auctions and let it ride. That's how you get people checking the site more frequently.

They have done everything they can to do away with auctions in the past it has only been in the past year or so they have turned it to wanting more auctions.

[tier1dc]

got this email from ebay today. looks annoying. love the corporate speak in some of these descriptions too.

[tier1dc]

Now eBay is trying "contests" to get people to sign up for managed payments.

Now I can tell this is bad idea. Why else would they need to stack no chance incentives otherwise?

[shrevecity]

Got this email today. Sounds like they maybe pushing up the managed payment requirements.

Our records indicate you have been previously invited to managed payments - eBay’s simplified seller experience to sell and get paid. Based on our review of your account, the features and tools you use on eBay are fully compatible with managed payments. To benefit from the new payments experience early, register at ebay.com/paymentsregistration. All eBay sellers will progressively be required to transition to managed payments in the coming months.

Managed payments offers more ways for buyers to pay with credit, debit and gift cards, Apple Pay, Google Pay, PayPal and PayPal Credit. Payouts will be automatically deposited to your bank account. Sellers receive consolidated reports, simplified seller protections, one monthly bill for all fees, and access to dedicated customer support. New features include a single unique number from order initiation to payout, and the ability to issue partial or full refunds to buyers, directly on eBay or via a third-party platform. Sellers who have already joined report high satisfaction and recommend managed payments to other sellers. To learn more about managed payments, visit ebay.com/payments.

Signing up now will allow you to choose the best time to join for your business, and avail of any existing promotions. These include the Summer Sign Up program available till August 31, 2019 and the $0 per listing payments fee through September 30, 2019. Please check your email account or Messages on My eBay for more details

[shrevecity]

Paypal also sent out a message about it regarding Paypal working capital loans and how they will be affected.

[Sets2]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

Got this email today. Sounds like they maybe pushing up the managed payment requirements.

Our records indicate you have been previously invited to managed payments - eBay’s simplified seller experience to sell and get paid. Based on our review of your account, the features and tools you use on eBay are fully compatible with managed payments. To benefit from the new payments experience early, register at ebay.com/paymentsregistration. All eBay sellers will progressively be required to transition to managed payments in the coming months.

Managed payments offers more ways for buyers to pay with credit, debit and gift cards, Apple Pay, Google Pay, PayPal and PayPal Credit. Payouts will be automatically deposited to your bank account. Sellers receive consolidated reports, simplified seller protections, one monthly bill for all fees, and access to dedicated customer support. New features include a single unique number from order initiation to payout, and the ability to issue partial or full refunds to buyers, directly on eBay or via a third-party platform. Sellers who have already joined report high satisfaction and recommend managed payments to other sellers. To learn more about managed payments, visit ebay.com/payments.

Signing up now will allow you to choose the best time to join for your business, and avail of any existing promotions. These include the Summer Sign Up program available till August 31, 2019 and the $0 per listing payments fee through September 30, 2019. Please check your email account or Messages on My eBay for more details

I got the same one, what's your take on this?

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by Sets2

I got the same one, what's your take on this?

Sounds to me they are moving up the required date for all sellers to be switched over.

[tier1dc]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

Sounds to me they are moving up the required date for all sellers to be switched over.

I think it's just suggestive phrasing by ebay. "Coming months" can mean years in legal speak.

The message inside ebay says
"All sellers will eventually move to managed payments"
in the subject line.

Guess it wouldn't be too surprising for them the pull the rug out from under people but doubt it will happen that quickly.

That being said this managed payments thing seems like a real scam. Charged upfront fees for items without GSP, without immediate payment (2-4 Business days until paid?), only domestic transactions.

This is stupid.

And I really hate that they're highlighting the

"Streamline your returns and refunds processes
Easily process refunds and partial refunds directly on eBay. Starting in summer 2019,
refund a percentage of the original order price – up to 100%."
WTF? Who thought that was a selling point.

I really dislike the idea of having to ship out an item before I actually get paid. This is going to open up a whole new avenue for people to scam ebay.

Orders and shipping
To ensure your buyers have a great shopping experience, and to maintain your seller level and Top Rated Status, you'll still need to ship orders promptly. You should ship items as soon as you see the “awaiting shipment” status on the Manage Orders page in Seller Hub – even if you haven't received the funds in your bank account yet. Don't worry, we'll only display this status once we've confirmed the buyer's payment.

Don't worry....yeah okay. because ebay is super easy to work with and always wants to help sellers.

This is an insane concept. Ship without getting paid.

[shrevecity]

This is all been in works for years new sellers often have money held. Large sellers sometimes have to have a certain amount held. On Amazon that is the way it yas always been. Even with paypal the money is not really yours for 180 days, they can still make you refund it.

I am all for eliminating paypal from the equation. Just one less hurdle. The refund thing is nothing that has not already been in place its just being more streamlined.

Most the sellers i know on it love it. Only reason i have not made the switch is due to a working capital loan i have opne right now.