misleading ebay titles

[cwcardz4u]

Is anyone else annoyed that ebay allows sellers to sub title names or cards their items aren't and you accidentally buy one? Well I did and sent a simple message and return request. As a seller I would accept the return if I had a misleading subtitle. well I was refused and declined with no message to two messages sent. I could've said it was damaged and guaranteed my money back but it wasn't damaged. ill get my money back but I have to go through my bank and its a pain. I don't ask or return cards at all unless theres damaged not decsribed or shown in picture(s). Card was a draft blue refractor with sapphire as a sub and was in my search tilted 2019 bowman sapphire.

[shrevecity]

.huh?................ No link to the item or anything? You also make it seem like you are going to try to get your money back without returning.

However if the item was not as described then that is the same claim as a damaged card. Just file a return claim plain and simple.

BUT DIGGING AROUND I THINK YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO BE BLOCKED.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Bowman-Draft-Chrome-Julio-Rodriguez-Blue-150-/293478546211?nma=true&si=0dVa1lYkA%252Fh%252BifgdqlbVfeHIA9w%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Not sure where sapphire would have come up at all in the search. If it did that was an Ebay search thing not the seller. Ebay search will sometimes include items that are similar to what you are searching for. Ultimately it is the buyers responsibility to know. Now if the seller had put Sapphire in the title I would agree with you, but there is nothing I see misleading about the sellers title. You are totally in the wrong here.

Just might feel this needs to be added for some info.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1188400

Also left a neutral on Ebay where he appears to have wanted to change his address after payment was made and seller cancelled order. That seller could have had the neutral removed. The OP was wrong for that as well. There is another neutral where he admits he messed up but still gave the seller a neutral.

[natbornkiller]

AND BLOCKED

[shrevecity]

Is anyone else annoyed that ebay allows sellers to sub title names or cards their items aren't and you accidentally buy one? Well I did and sent a simple message and return request. As a seller I would accept the return if I had a misleading subtitle. well I was refused and declined with no message to two messages sent. I could've said it was damaged and guaranteed my money back but it wasn't damaged. ill get my money back but I have to go through my bank and its a pain. I don't ask or return cards at all unless theres damaged not decsribed or shown in picture(s). Card was a draft blue refractor with sapphire as a sub and was in my search tilted 2019 bowman sapphire.

quoting for future reference.

[glen87]

what was the misleading sub title - that would help

[mc1]

Link?

Sounds like buyers remorse.

[shrevecity]

Link?

Sounds like buyers remorse.

I provided the link to the listing. There was no mention of sapphire at all in the listing.

[glen87]

I provided the link to the listing. There was no mention of sapphire at all in the listing.

:)!

auction title - 2019 Bowman Draft Chrome Julio Rodriguez Blue /150

NEGATIVE FB left - Card showed up under sapphire and it wasn’t. I could said card was DMG refusd RF

:doh:

[glen87]

OP - what happened here?

neutral FB left
Had a issue where I messed up but seller left feedback as if I scammed/tried too


this is the FB left by the seller
Buyer needs to monitor more closely his/her eBay account refund provided

where / how does that imply you tried to scam?

[shrevecity]

:)!

auction title - 2019 Bowman Draft Chrome Julio Rodriguez Blue /150

NEGATIVE FB left - Card showed up under sapphire and it wasn’t. I could said card was DMG refusd RF

:doh:

I like how he admits in the feedback he could have committed fraud by claiming damage when it was not.

[cwcardz4u]

.huh?................ No link to the item or anything? You also make it seem like you are going to try to get your money back without returning.

However if the item was not as described then that is the same claim as a damaged card. Just file a return claim plain and simple.

BUT DIGGING AROUND I THINK YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO BE BLOCKED.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Bowman-Draft-Chrome-Julio-Rodriguez-Blue-150-/293478546211?nma=true&si=0dVa1lYkA%252Fh%252BifgdqlbVfeHIA9w%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Not sure where sapphire would have come up at all in the search. If it did that was an Ebay search thing not the seller. Ebay search will sometimes include items that are similar to what you are searching for. Ultimately it is the buyers responsibility to know. Now if the seller had put Sapphire in the title I would agree with you, but there is nothing I see misleading about the sellers title. You are totally in the wrong here.

Just might feel this needs to be added for some info.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1188400

Also left a neutral on Ebay where he appears to have wanted to change his address after payment was made and seller cancelled order. That seller could have had the neutral removed. The OP was wrong for that as well. There is another neutral where he admits he messed up but still gave the seller a neutral.

I never said I damage cards! I said I could have said it was damaged and got my money back.

[glen87]

I never said I damage cards! I said I could have said it was damaged and got my money back.

and hence the fraud part

[cwcardz4u]

.huh?................ No link to the item or anything? You also make it seem like you are going to try to get your money back without returning.

However if the item was not as described then that is the same claim as a damaged card. Just file a return claim plain and simple.

BUT DIGGING AROUND I THINK YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO BE BLOCKED.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Bowman-Draft-Chrome-Julio-Rodriguez-Blue-150-/293478546211?nma=true&si=0dVa1lYkA%252Fh%252BifgdqlbVfeHIA9w%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Not sure where sapphire would have come up at all in the search. If it did that was an Ebay search thing not the seller. Ebay search will sometimes include items that are similar to what you are searching for. Ultimately it is the buyers responsibility to know. Now if the seller had put Sapphire in the title I would agree with you, but there is nothing I see misleading about the sellers title. You are totally in the wrong here.

Just might feel this needs to be added for some info.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1188400

Also left a neutral on Ebay where he appears to have wanted to change his address after payment was made and seller cancelled order. That seller could have had the neutral removed. The OP was wrong for that as well. There is another neutral where he admits he messed up but still gave the seller a neutral.

oh and the lot he shorted me. funny. re read what he posted and see how he second guessed what he sent and how he said he caught me. that seller shorted me on the lot.


I love reading the board and how other people blast someone.

I thought I posted the item. I typed in sapphire and the seller sub titles and it showed up under sapphire. how am I wrong? the seller should get away with it? ok.

[cwcardz4u]

I provided the link to the listing. There was no mention of sapphire at all in the listing.

it showed up with a sub title listing. again how am I wrong? cause I said ill get my money back? you think I'm wrong or a seller can just add a subtitle and hope someone like me bought it?

as a seller ID refund the money. I think its pretty simple.

[glen87]

oh and the lot he shorted me. funny. re read what he posted and see how he second guessed what he sent and how he said he caught me. that seller shorted me on the lot.


I love reading the board and how other people blast someone.

I thought I posted the item. I typed in sapphire and the seller sub titles and it showed up under sapphire. how am I wrong? the seller should get away with it? ok.

there is no mention of SAPPHIRE in title OR description OR picture of the card, and there is NO subtitle in the auction. this appears to be on ebay / you rather than the seller

Sold Feb 15, 2020Sold Item
2019 Bowman Draft Chrome Julio Rodriguez Blue /150
Brand New
$2.40
Feb-15 20:27
1 bid
Seller: bulldog701 (1,685) 99.1%
Best offer accepted
+$3.95 shipping
View similar active items
Sell one like this

[shrevecity]

I thought I posted the item. I typed in sapphire and the seller sub titles and it showed up under sapphire. how am I wrong? the seller should get away with it? ok.

There is NO mention of sapphire in the listing? If there is where is it? YOu just made a mistake man up and appologize to the seller and ask him to remove the neg that is what you need to do the seller did NOTHING wrong. If it showed in the search that is an Ebay search issue or your own search issue the seller did nothing to cause it to show up on their own.

There is no subtitle on that listing. If there was it would still be showing. It also does not show in the item specifics.

[cwcardz4u]

and hence the fraud part

WTF? fraud, I asked the seller for a refund and didn't say it was damaged! I hardly ever return anything and I buy tons of cards. and if you want to block that's perfect cause you probably list cards like that one was.

[glen87]

ebay search adds some weird stuff to results. PLEASE try this and get back to me.

go and search for "charles haley"

one of the first results you get is

title
"Rayfield Wright autograph 8x10 Photo W/ Coa"

description
Rayfield Wright autograph 8x10 Photo W/ Defend the star COA .Condition is Brand New. Shipped with USPS First Class Package.

photo in item is a picture of rayfield wright. no where in that whole thing is any mention of charles haley. if i bought that, how in the heck can i blame the seller for that showing up????

that is what happened here to you.

[glen87]

WTF? fraud, I asked the seller for a refund and didn't say it was damaged! I hardly ever return anything and I buy tons of cards. and if you want to block that's perfect cause you probably list cards like that one was.

by you won admission you said you COULD HAVE CLAIMED damage.

no one said you DID commit fraud, simply that you COULD have

I like how he admits in the feedback he could have committed fraud by claiming damage when it was not.

[cwcardz4u]

there is no mention of SAPPHIRE in title OR description OR picture of the card, and there is NO subtitle in the auction. this appears to be on ebay / you rather than the seller

Sold Feb 15, 2020Sold Item
2019 Bowman Draft Chrome Julio Rodriguez Blue /150
Brand New
$2.40
Feb-15 20:27
1 bid
Seller: bulldog701 (1,685) 99.1%
Best offer accepted
+$3.95 shipping
View similar active items
Sell one like this

not sure how that happened but I can assure you it was subtitled. ebay error? couldn't tell you. I wouldn't offer 45 on a draft blue.

I won a Jose Rameriz chrome auto and same thing but was lindor.

[shrevecity]

ebay search adds some weird stuff to results. PLEASE try this and get back to me.

go and search for "charles haley"

one of the first results you get is

title
"Rayfield Wright autograph 8x10 Photo W/ Coa"

description
Rayfield Wright autograph 8x10 Photo W/ Defend the star COA .Condition is Brand New. Shipped with USPS First Class Package.

photo in item is a picture of rayfield wright. no where in that whole thing is any mention of charles haley. if i bought that, how in the heck can i blame the seller for that showing up????

that is what happened here to you.

That is excatly what happened often the search will show items others have searched for when also searching for that item In your case members who have searched sapphire have likely also searched for the player so Best match picks up both.

[shrevecity]

not sure how that happened but I can assure you it was subtitled. ebay error? couldn't tell you. I wouldn't offer 45 on a draft blue.

I won a Jose Rameriz chrome auto and same thing but was lindor.

YOu did not pay 45 for the item you left the neg for.

[cwcardz4u]

There is NO mention of sapphire in the listing? If there is where is it? YOu just made a mistake man up and appologize to the seller and ask him to remove the neg that is what you need to do the seller did NOTHING wrong. If it showed in the search that is an Ebay search issue or your own search issue the seller did nothing to cause it to show up on their own.

There is no subtitle on that listing. If there was it would still be showing. It also does not show in the item specifics.

im not apologizing for anything. I may eat the card but not taking the neg off. he can't reply back? I would. would you?

[glen87]

im not apologizing for anything. I may eat the card but not taking the neg off. he can't reply back? I would. would you?

sorry, but i would not reply. getting into a direct back-and-forth with someone on ebay is rarely a good thing. i just let the process run out and only communicate with ebay directly.

[shrevecity]

im not apologizing for anything. I may eat the card but not taking the neg off. he can't reply back? I would. would you?

Nope not going to get into a pissing contest with a potential problem bidder. It never works out well for the seller.

If I were the seller I would call Ebay and have it removed and your account get a strike on it. So you are not willing to be a man and admit you made a mistake. This was not the sellers mistake.

Just like where you left a seller a neutral because you wanted item shipped to a different address. That is against Ebay rules that seller could have easily had it removed. He was in the right for canceling.

You need to be a man and own your mistakes instead of punishing others for them

[cwcardz4u]

by you won admission you said you COULD HAVE CLAIMED damage.

no one said you DID commit fraud, simply that you COULD have

so why would I be the bad guy then? ok lets say that happened to me with the Hailey item. as a seller you wouldn't refund the buyer if it was a mistake? I mean what other draft blue sold for more then I asked? can you see what I buy? its all sapphire.

sounds like you're a headache. im happy you blocked.

and why are you so jumpy? you can't communicate without reasearching people? that post from way back is funny.

[cwcardz4u]

YOu did not pay 45 for the item you left the neg for.

ah yes I did. it was an offer! you speak without knowing. good job.

[shrevecity]

so why would I be the bad guy then? ok lets say that happened to me with the Hailey item. as a seller you wouldn't refund the buyer if it was a mistake? I mean what other draft blue sold for more then I asked? can you see what I buy? its all sapphire.

sounds like you're a headache. im happy you blocked.

and why are you so jumpy? you can't communicate without reasearching people? that post from way back is funny.

In this case if I was the buyer I would go on with life because the seller did nothing wrong I would just eat it and relist. We all make mistakes this one is not on the seller. I also offer 30 day free returns so in this case I would accept the return and follow the process then let Eaby deal with the buyer once I report them.

[shrevecity]

ah yes I did. it was an offer! you speak without knowing. good job.

I am looking at the listing.. That is weird the Ebay page is not showing anything close to 45.00 for the sale on the item he left a neg for but when I look at it in the feedback it is showing 45.00.

Again though there is no mention of Sapphire anywhere in the listing if it showed in your search that is an Ebay issue not the seller and if they do not offer returns they are not required to take it for the reason that you give. If he does offer returns then your reason is acceptable but he would be allowed to deduct shipping and possibly a restocking fee.

[glen87]

so why would I be the bad guy then? ok lets say that happened to me with the Hailey item. as a seller you wouldn't refund the buyer if it was a mistake? I mean what other draft blue sold for more then I asked? can you see what I buy? its all sapphire.

sounds like you're a headache. im happy you blocked.

and why are you so jumpy? you can't communicate without reasearching people? that post from way back is funny.

here is how much of a "headache" i am

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Panini-Contenders-Jimmy-Moreland-Variation-SP/184115850575?hash=item2ade28ed4f:g:uNgAAOSwHwReEjSf

i bought this for $25 when it first came out.

they now go for under $10. i took a gamble that it was going to be an sp, and lost. guess what - i still have the card / seller has positive FB, and i am ok with that since i was the one who took the gamble. could easily still return it, but i am not.

go ahead and block me, but i have not blocked you (yet).

[cwcardz4u]

Nope not going to get into a pissing contest with a potential problem bidder. It never works out well for the seller.

If I were the seller I would call Ebay and have it removed and your account get a strike on it. So you are not willing to be a man and admit you made a mistake. This was not the sellers mistake.

Just like where you left a seller a neutral because you wanted item shipped to a different address. That is against Ebay rules that seller could have easily had it removed. He was in the right for canceling.

You need to be a man and own your mistakes instead of punishing others for them

please block me too. you and your buddy are what's wrong with ebay. your investigation and telling me what I read and what it didn't sell for make you look silly.

[cwcardz4u]

[QUOTE=glen87;15583109]here is how much of a "headache" i am

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Panini-Contenders-Jimmy-Moreland-Variation-SP/184115850575?hash=item2ade28ed4f:g:uNgAAOSwHwReEjSf

i bought this for $25 when it first came out.

they now go for under $10. i took a gamble that it was going to be an sp, and lost. guess what - i still have the card / seller has positive FB, and i am ok with that since i was the one who took the gamble. could easily still return it, but i am not.


I do the same so what? I told you I don't return cards I buy. I average out what I pay cause I buy 20-100 of what I want esp autos.

[Cavaliercards]

Not listed as sapphire, not sublisted. Willing to say it is damaged when it is not?

What is all of this??

[shrevecity]

please block me too. you and your buddy are what's wrong with ebay. your investigation and telling me what I read and what it didn't sell for make you look silly.

LOL. We can all see the listing. There is zero mention of sapphire this is an Ebay search issue not the seller.

[glen87]

please block me too. you and your buddy are what's wrong with ebay. your investigation and telling me what I read and what it didn't sell for make you look silly.

uh ok...

you have left more neg. / neutral FB for sellers in the past 6 months than i have in the past 22 years. i believe i have left 3 neg and 2 neutral in over 5,000 purchases.

[shrevecity]

Where excatly in the listing does it say sapphire? There is no subtitle.

[shrevecity]

uh ok...

you have left more neg. / neutral FB for sellers in the past 6 months than i have in the past 22 years. i believe i have left 3 neg and 2 neutral in over 5,000 purchases.

Same here. I can count on one hand the number of negs and neutrals I have left in over 15K transactions.

[cwcardz4u]

LOL. We can all see the listing. There is zero mention of sapphire this is an Ebay search issue not the seller.

man I wish you were in front of me. here's what I paid detective. tell me again what I paid

[shrevecity]

man I wish you were in front of me. here's what I paid detective. tell me again what I paid

LOL threats now.

Did you not read where I admitted that error the Ebay listing that is showing when it comes up on Ebay does not show it as 45.00. When you click on the listing.

I was man enough to admit that mistake.

[cwcardz4u]

Same here. I can count on one hand the number of negs and neutrals I have left in over 15K transactions.

that's cause I buy WAY more then you two numb nuts. 81 items bought in a year?

[cwcardz4u]

LOL threats now.

Did you not read where I admitted that error the Ebay listing that is showing when it comes up on Ebay does not show it as 45.00. When you click on the listing.

I was man enough to admit that mistake.



but you came at me like im guilty of something bad. so if you see it as a winning bid and it wasn't ebay, couldn't have done the same with sapphire showing subbed? or its only my mistake?

[shrevecity]

that's cause I buy WAY more then you two numb nuts. 81 items bought in a year?

81 just shows the feedback does not indicate number if items bought. However my numbers are a bit more than that.

[salthill]

Is anyone else annoyed that ebay allows sellers to sub title names or cards their items aren't and you accidentally buy one? Well I did and sent a simple message and return request. As a seller I would accept the return if I had a misleading subtitle. well I was refused and declined with no message to two messages sent. I could've said it was damaged and guaranteed my money back but it wasn't damaged. ill get my money back but I have to go through my bank and its a pain. I don't ask or return cards at all unless theres damaged not decsribed or shown in picture(s). Card was a draft blue refractor with sapphire as a sub and was in my search tilted 2019 bowman sapphire.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Bowman-Draft-Chrome-Julio-Rodriguez-Blue-150-/293478546211?nma=true&si=0dVa1lYkA%252Fh%252BifgdqlbVfeHIA9w%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


Do you look at the photos of items you’re buying, or just buy them straight off the listing? (Well, in this case not even the listing, just the eBay search results.)

[glen87]

that's cause I buy WAY more then you two numb nuts. 81 items bought in a year?

me - 5,208 Feedback received as a buyer

you - 5,506 Feedback received as a buyer

total seems pretty close to me

[shrevecity]

but you came at me like im guilty of something bad. so if you see it as a winning bid and it wasn't ebay couldn't have done the same with sapphire showing subbed? or its only my mistake?

We have been saying it could have been either an Ebay mistake or a buyer mistake but there is nothing showing the seller did anything wrong.

The seller does not use subs in their other listings so why would they do it on one. Subs show on completed items and there is clearly not one in this listing. Regardless you are responsible for knowing what you are purchasing. If I buy something by mistake I own it. I don't blame the seller.

You said you could have said the item was damaged to force the return that is fraud. You left a seller a neutral for cancelling an item when you asked to have it shipped to a different address. That is against Ebay rules, I would have canceled as well and called Ebay when you negged me and had it removed..

You tried to scam a member here in 2018.

[cwcardz4u]

uh ok...

you have left more neg. / neutral FB for sellers in the past 6 months than i have in the past 22 years. i believe i have left 3 neg and 2 neutral in over 5,000 purchases.

you average 227 a year. look again what I buy and let me know how your feedback stacks up. if a seller backs out on a 2k Vlad and makes me wait 5 days to cancel and then doesn't refund when he canceled doesn't deserve a neg then I don't know.

[cwcardz4u]

me - 5,208 Feedback received as a buyer

you - 5,506 Feedback received as a buyer

total seems pretty close to me

that funny. what you buy and I buy isn't the same. last year according to your stats is 81.

[Cavaliercards]

you average 227 a year. look again what I buy and let me know how your feedback stacks up. if a seller backs out on a 2k Vlad and makes me wait 5 days to cancel and then doesn't refund when he canceled doesn't deserve a neg then I don't know.

Tonight's seller mentioned in the original post had no business getting a negative or neutral.

[shrevecity]

you average 227 a year. look again what I buy and let me know how your feedback stacks up. if a seller backs out on a 2k Vlad and makes me wait 5 days to cancel and then doesn't refund when he canceled doesn't deserve a neg then I don't know.

HOWEVER your negs and neutrals appear to be for your issues. Like leaving a seller a neutral for something you admit was your mistake or leaving the seller a neutral for canceling an item when you asked to have it shipped to a different address. Or leaving a neg and admitting you could have committed return fraud. Frankly if you made an offer on an item and I saw that I would not sell to you. Bad feedback left can hurt the buyer more than the seller. I look at feedback left on the buyer on any offer I get before I accept.

[chezball]

Another one on my BBL and the OP won't be around much longer.

[glen87]

We have been saying it could have been either an Ebay mistake or a buyer mistake but there is nothing showing the seller did anything wrong.

The seller does not use subs in their other listings so why would they do it on one. Subs show on completed items and there is clearly not one in this listing. Regardless you are responsible for knowing what you are purchasing. If I buy something by mistake I own it. I don't blame the seller.

You said you could have said the item was damaged to force the return that is fraud. You left a seller a neutral for cancelling an item when you asked to have it shipped to a different address. That is against Ebay rules, I would have canceled as well and called Ebay when you negged me and had it removed..

You tried to scam a member here in 2018.

https://i2.wp.com/thats-normal.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/you-had-my-curiosity-now-you-have-my-attention.gif?resize=500%2C244

[cwcardz4u]

We have been saying it could have been either an Ebay mistake or a buyer mistake but there is nothing showing the seller did anything wrong.

The seller does not use subs in their other listings so why would they do it on one. Subs show on completed items and there is clearly not one in this listing. Regardless you are responsible for knowing what you are purchasing. If I buy something by mistake I own it. I don't blame the seller.

You said you could have said the item was damaged to force the return that is fraud. You left a seller a neutral for cancelling an item when you asked to have it shipped to a different address. That is against Ebay rules, I would have canceled as well and called Ebay when you negged me and had it removed..

You tried to scam a member here in 2018.

im pretty sure I never asked to ship somewhere else. maybe its when I bought my new house I don't know. that doesn't sound right. and I emailed the seller TELLING him what happened when I seen the card wasn't a sapphire. he closed the request with no email back. that's good CS? I sell and what does my feedback say as a seller?

[kjetilfan]

ebay search adds some weird stuff to results. PLEASE try this and get back to me.

go and search for "charles haley"

one of the first results you get is

title
"Rayfield Wright autograph 8x10 Photo W/ Coa"

description
Rayfield Wright autograph 8x10 Photo W/ Defend the star COA .Condition is Brand New. Shipped with USPS First Class Package.

photo in item is a picture of rayfield wright. no where in that whole thing is any mention of charles haley. if i bought that, how in the heck can i blame the seller for that showing up????

that is what happened here to you.

The player listed is Haley.

But not relevant to the OP as the is no sub-listing like in the Haley case

[shrevecity]

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1188400

[glen87]

The player listed is Haley.

But not relevant to the OP as the is no sub-listing like in the Haley case

thanks for pointing that out - i never even noticed it. looks like that seller did that for several items. probably forgot to change the player from another listing.

[Cavaliercards]

thanks for pointing that out - i never even noticed it. looks like that seller did that for several items. probably forgot to change the player from another listing.

But you could read a title and description and comprehend a picture. :D:)!

[cwcardz4u]

https://i2.wp.com/thats-normal.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/you-had-my-curiosity-now-you-have-my-attention.gif?resize=500%2C244

again that was a Carlson lot he shorted me. read what he put and tell me how many times he questioned himself. he sent 7 it was for 9. they were cheap and I didn't want to return the 7 so I told him id eat the loss cause ill avg them out. ended up with 50 of his autos. when I actually seen that post I laughed because he didn't say he'd calm me out when we were messaging. I didn't threaten him. he swore he sent 9 and he didn't. and this was a long time ago

this is way different. the seller wouldn't even respond, I was honest with this guy and he choose the out come.

[cwcardz4u]

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1188400

thanks for reminding me it was for a 12 card lot. either way what did I do wrong on that?

[shrevecity]

thanks for reminding me it was for a 12 card lot. either way what did I do wrong on that?

Feedback extortion in your messages to him Refusing to return asking for a partial refund is in the abusive buyers policy on Ebay and any neg you left would have been removable for both reasons.

[shrevecity]

But you could read a title and description and comprehend a picture. :D:)!

Amazing how that alone helps solve problems before they begin.

[glen87]

thanks for reminding me it was for a 12 card lot. either way what did I do wrong on that?

this is not any type of accusation at all, i just want to see how this would work.

i sell you a lot of 10 cards for $20, and you only receive 8 of them (for whatever reason). how do you determine the value of the 2 missing cards? would it be $4 since the cards were essentially $2 each, or do you try and ask for more since they were more valuable than the other 8, or even ask for less than $4 since they were less valuable. working a partial refund on a lot is very difficult if not impossible.

again, i am not saying you did anything wrong, just pointing out value can differ between buyer and seller, which is why it is typically all or nothing.

[PoPCulture]

How was the photo not the biggest factor when deciding to purchase. Did op think the Sapphire was behind the Blue? I spend quite a bit of time looking at photos when making a purchase and can’t comprehend not looking at one at all. Well, ever since ebay made photos mandatory.

[cwcardz4u]

this is not any type of accusation at all, i just want to see how this would work.

i sell you a lot of 10 cards for $20, and you only receive 8 of them (for whatever reason). how do you determine the value of the 2 missing cards? would it be $4 since the cards were essentially $2 each, or do you try and ask for more since they were more valuable than the other 8, or even ask for less than $4 since they were less valuable. working a partial refund on a lot is very difficult if not impossible.

again, i am not saying you did anything wrong, just pointing out value can differ between buyer and seller, which is why it is typically all or nothing.

when I buy cards of a guy I want my range could be 10-15 each.ill buy up to 50 if I can and average them all. these(Carlson) fell in the same range. when I go after guys price doesn't matter to me if its in my range. another example- ive paid $3-20 on Vlad NNO and have 80. I was shorted a few and didn't say anything cause they were on the low end for 10cts. I bought all 3 and seller and he sent 27. I sent a message and he wanted to send money I said no cause they were cheap.

[cwcardz4u]

How was the photo not the biggest factor when deciding to purchase. Did op think the Sapphire was behind the Blue? I spend quite a bit of time looking at photos when making a purchase and can’t comprehend not looking at one at all. Well, ever since ebay made photos mandatory.

read the thread! I said how it happened

[PoPCulture]

read the thread! I said how it happened

I read the thread but the photo shows a blue so it’s hard to comprehend.

[shrevecity]

read the thread! I said how it happened

YOu said the seller intentionally mislead you there is NO evidence that he did that. There is nothing in the listing indicating this was a sapphire at all.

[Cavaliercards]

How was the photo not the biggest factor when deciding to purchase. Did op think the Sapphire was behind the Blue? I spend quite a bit of time looking at photos when making a purchase and can’t comprehend not looking at one at all. Well, ever since ebay made photos mandatory.

When I do searches look at the picture and then the title frequently.

Looking at the Auction OP said, there is no mention of sapphire.

[cwcardz4u]

When I do searches look at the picture and then the title frequently.

Looking at the Auction OP said, there is no mention of sapphire.

here's how it went. I typed in 2019 sapphire. this showed up in that search. I buy on my phone and didn't pay attention to the pic cause it looked like the sapphire. I got the card it was draft not sapphire draft. I messaged the seller what happened and file a request for a refund. he declinded it. as a buyer am I really SOL? or a seller would you accept? #@#@#@#@ happens. I COULDVE LIED AND SAID IT WAS DAMAGED but I didn't cause it wasn't.

[shrevecity]

Hopefully the seller contacts Ebay and tries to get neg removed. Ebay has been known to do so when the buyer wants to return an item not covered by Ebay protection and the seller refuses.

[cwcardz4u]

YOu said the seller intentionally mislead you there is NO evidence that he did that. There is nothing in the listing indicating this was a sapphire at all.

here we go. you keep saying the same #@#@#@#@. you said the card sold for $2. you were wrong. you don't think it was possible that it did show up with sapphire subbed? the same thing happened on a lindor card but that one stayed. the seller said he didn't sub it and never subs cards. you're like the Lynch mob.

[cwcardz4u]

Hopefully the seller contacts Ebay and tries to get neg removed. Ebay has been known to do so when the buyer wants to return an item not covered by Ebay protection and the seller refuses.

man I hope I can meet you in person. id love for you to chime in like this in real life. you're #@#@#@#@ing annoying as hell.

WE KNOW IT DOESNT SAY SAPPHIRE SUBBED! it did when I offered on it. if I can go back in time I would've snapped shot it just for you

[shrevecity]

here we go. you keep saying the same #@#@#@#@. you said the card sold for $2. you were wrong. you don't think it was possible that it did show up with sapphire subbed? the same thing happened on a lindor card but that one stayed. the seller said he didn't sub it and never subs cards. you're like the Lynch mob.

And again I was man enough to admit I was wrong on that, if you click the link it shows the price at 2.40 you have to click the bid history to see an offer at 45.00 was accepted, BUT I OWNED THAT ERROR. THERE is no sub title in the listing. You keep saying there is kbut there is not there is also no mention of sapphire. And you keep blaming the seller when he did NOTHING wrong. He was not obligated to take the return.

[shrevecity]

PM from the OP..

why are you so annoying? are you 12? a man doesnt act like that so you must be.

LOL. Why can you just grow a set and admit you are wrong here

[chezball]

man I hope I can meet you in person. id love for you to chime in like this in real life. you're #@#@#@#@ing annoying as hell.

WE KNOW IT DOESNT SAY SAPPHIRE SUBBED! it did when I offered on it. if I can go back in time I would've snapped shot it just for you
quoted for your removal.

[cwcardz4u]

PM from the OP..



LOL. Why can you just grow a set and admit you are wrong here

exactly what I knew you'd do. you obviously don't have a set. who turns down a beer?

[shrevecity]

man I hope I can meet you in person. id love for you to chime in like this in real life. you're #@#@#@#@ing annoying as hell.

WE KNOW IT DOESNT SAY SAPPHIRE SUBBED! it did when I offered on it. if I can go back in time I would've snapped shot it just for you

i would still say sapphire if it did. And more threats.

Possible FBM?

[cwcardz4u]

quoted for you're removal.

yea cause im the bad guy here

[shrevecity]

exactly what I knew you'd do. you obviously don't have a set. who turns down a beer?

At least I admit when I am wrong.

[cwcardz4u]

i would still say sapphire if it did. And more threats.

Possible FBM?

I like blowout but if this is who responds to questions do what you go to do.

[chezball]

yea cause im the bad guy here

When you threaten members, yes you are.

[cwcardz4u]

At least I admit when I am wrong.

sure you do. done responding to you.

[Cavaliercards]

I like blowout but if this is who responds to questions do what you go to do.

It doesn’t say sapphire and seller can’t edit with a bid or an offer on it or after sale.

It would say it clear as day if it was there

[shrevecity]

sure you do. done responding to you.

Poor baby.

[cwcardz4u]

When you threaten, yes you are.

what about the bully? he can just keep posting the same stuff? that's ok? and what threat? buying him a beer? saying he's annoying?

[Cavaliercards]

what about the bully? he can just keep posting the same stuff? that's ok? and what threat? buying him a beer? saying he's annoying?

What about admitting you would lie about a card being damaged because of something not in the description?

[shrevecity]

what about the bully? he can just keep posting the same stuff? that's ok? and what threat? buying him a beer? saying he's annoying?

I keep repeating it because it's the facts of the case.

[shrevecity]

Does the app even show sub-titles I prefer a laptop myself..

[cwcardz4u]

It doesn’t say sapphire and seller can’t edit with a bid or an offer on it or after sale.

It would say it clear as day if it was there

your a pretty big seller. so if that card doesn't sell for half the offer and someone offered you what I did ($45) you wouldn't think if you got a message from the buyer explaining what happened you'd deny a return?

[cwcardz4u]

When you threaten members, yes you are.

glad this member-shrevecity is ok though. literally calling me a baby after you post is ok?

[shrevecity]

your a pretty big seller. so if that card doesn't sell for half the offer and someone offered you what I did ($45) you wouldn't think if you got a message from the buyer explaining what happened you'd deny a return?

For me I take 30 day returns so I would not have a choice, I would still block you but I would take it. However this seller does not take returns so with your reason he is not required to accept the return. Some will but others will not. If they don't and it was my mistake I would just list it myself and move on with life.

[cwcardz4u]

What about admitting you would lie about a card being damaged because of something not in the description?

and again I said I could've just sent the card back and claimed it was damaged.

[shrevecity]

glad this member-shrevecity is ok though. literally calling me a baby after you post is ok?

Again only posting facts. So you can make threats and name call then get mad when someone calls you something you don't like.

[shrevecity]

and again I said I could've just sent the card back and claimed it was damaged.

And that would be fraud. Could you yes but it does not make it right.

[cwcardz4u]

For me I take 30 day returns so I would not have a choice, I would still block you but I would take it. However this seller does not take returns so with your reason he is not required to accept the return. Some will but others will not. If they don't and it was my mistake I would just list it myself and move on with life.

and I may just do that. I posted cause I was surprised I didn't even get an email.

[Cavaliercards]

your a pretty big seller. so if that card doesn't sell for half the offer and someone offered you what I did ($45) you wouldn't think if you got a message from the buyer explaining what happened you'd deny a return?

If I had returns turned off on the item. I would deny and then I would call eBay about your feedback where you threaten to damage the item.

[salthill]

Take the L. The listing would still have it if it was there when it closed. Seller can’t edit it out.
eBay has a known “feature” where it adds suggested cards to search results (it happened to me just this evening; I couldn’t figure out how a card matched the search terms, they definitely weren’t in the subs or card description fields or text of the description).
So it’s not the sellers fault. That’s on eBay.
You didn’t look at the photo. That’s on you.
I’m also guessing it’s likely you didn’t see it in the listing either, you just assumed it was there because it was in the search results.
In any case, you don’t get a pat on the head for not lying about the card condition.

[cwcardz4u]

If I had returns turned off on the item. I would deny and then I would call eBay about your feedback where you threaten to damage the item.

dude for the last time I said I could've sent it back damaged and not damaged the card. I would've got my money.

you guys win.

[cwcardz4u]

Take the L. The listing would still have it if it was there when it closed. Seller can’t edit it out.
eBay has a known “feature” where it adds suggested cards to search results (it happened to me just this evening; I couldn’t figure out how a card matched the search terms, they definitely weren’t in the subs or card description fields or text of the description).
So it’s not the sellers fault. That’s on eBay.
You didn’t look at the photo. That’s on you.
I’m also guessing it’s likely you didn’t see it in the listing either, you just assumed it was there because it was in the search results.
In any case, you don’t get a pat on the head for not lying about the card condition.

you're nice. thanks.

[Cavaliercards]

dude for the last time I said I could've sent it back damaged and not damaged the card. I would've got my money.

you guys win.

So card would not have been damaged and you would have told an alternate reality, after you misread the description and saw the picture.

That is unethical, clear as day.

[chezball]

man I hope I can meet you in person. id love for you to chime in like this in real life. you're #@#@#@#@ing annoying as hell.

WE KNOW IT DOESNT SAY SAPPHIRE SUBBED! it did when I offered on it. if I can go back in time I would've snapped shot it just for you

what about the bully? he can just keep posting the same stuff? that's ok? and what threat? buying him a beer? saying he's annoying?

there.

[shrevecity]

there.

You missed one.

[jcmel323]

:popcorn::coffee:

[txrngr34]

I'm the guy (seller in 2018) that OP (buyer in 2018) tried to scam in 2018 regarding the Sam Carlson auto lot.

What I know for a fact is that OP uses threats to attempt to get what he wants (feedback extortion as noted in my 2018 forum post asking for advice).

That fact alone is enough for me to never buy from OP or sell to OP (knowingly) ever again.

Some other thoughts I have after reading all of the posts in this thread:

Is anyone else annoyed that ebay allows sellers to sub title names or cards their items aren't and you accidentally buy one? Well I did and sent a simple message and return request. As a seller I would accept the return if I had a misleading subtitle. well I was refused and declined with no message to two messages sent. I could've said it was damaged and guaranteed my money back but it wasn't damaged. ill get my money back but I have to go through my bank and its a pain. I don't ask or return cards at all unless theres damaged not decsribed or shown in picture(s). Card was a draft blue refractor with sapphire as a sub and was in my search tilted 2019 bowman sapphire.
YOUR search results returned an item that did NOT imply it was Sapphire, that is YOUR problem, not the seller's.

oh and the lot he shorted me. funny. re read what he posted and see how he second guessed what he sent and how he said he caught me. that seller shorted me on the lot.


I love reading the board and how other people blast someone.

I thought I posted the item. I typed in sapphire and the seller sub titles and it showed up under sapphire. how am I wrong? the seller should get away with it? ok.
Saying I'm 99.9% sure I sent all 12 cards does NOT mean I'm second-guessing what I sent you. Perhaps my being a stickler for details or approaching things analytically misled you into believing that 0.1% chance I'm wrong means I'm second-guessing myself. That is not correct. What it means is that there is a 1 in 1,000 chance that I made a mistake in packaging.

That said, while I had no need to update my 2018 post after some time, I am happy to say - a full 2 years later - that I am now 100% sure I sent you all 12 cards.

To this day, those alleged 3 missing base autos still have not appeared.

But I'm open to the possibility that YOU made a mistake when opening the package and that those 3 missing cards were not counted when they should have been.

so why would I be the bad guy then? ok lets say that happened to me with the Hailey item. as a seller you wouldn't refund the buyer if it was a mistake? I mean what other draft blue sold for more then I asked? can you see what I buy? its all sapphire.

sounds like you're a headache. im happy you blocked.

and why are you so jumpy? you can't communicate without reasearching people? that post from way back is funny.
If "that post from way back" is my 2018 post, I still don't find it funny to this day. I offered you a full refund to send back the 9 you claimed to get, you chose not to, instead asking for a partial credit/refund. Then, when I wouldn't give you a partial, you threatened me.

At the very least, it's unprofessional. In reality, it's shady.

please block me too. you and your buddy are what's wrong with ebay. your investigation and telling me what I read and what it didn't sell for make you look silly.
These folks and their "investigation" approach helped me tremendously in my dealing with you 2 years ago. I appreciate the people on this forum greatly, it helps me continue to believe there are good people to transact with.

here is how much of a "headache" i am

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-Panini-Contenders-Jimmy-Moreland-Variation-SP/184115850575?hash=item2ade28ed4f:g:uNgAAOSwHwReEjSf

i bought this for $25 when it first came out.

they now go for under $10. i took a gamble that it was going to be an sp, and lost. guess what - i still have the card / seller has positive FB, and i am ok with that since i was the one who took the gamble. could easily still return it, but i am not.

I do the same so what? I told you I don't return cards I buy. I average out what I pay cause I buy 20-100 of what I want esp autos.
Maybe you don't return cards but you sure as hell do try to get partial refunds, this is fact.

We have been saying it could have been either an Ebay mistake or a buyer mistake but there is nothing showing the seller did anything wrong.

The seller does not use subs in their other listings so why would they do it on one. Subs show on completed items and there is clearly not one in this listing. Regardless you are responsible for knowing what you are purchasing. If I buy something by mistake I own it. I don't blame the seller.

You said you could have said the item was damaged to force the return that is fraud. You left a seller a neutral for cancelling an item when you asked to have it shipped to a different address. That is against Ebay rules, I would have canceled as well and called Ebay when you negged me and had it removed..

You tried to scam a member here in 2018.
Thanks for your help in 2018, and for posting again in that thread to link me to this thread.

again that was a Carlson lot he shorted me. read what he put and tell me how many times he questioned himself. he sent 7 it was for 9. they were cheap and I didn't want to return the 7 so I told him id eat the loss cause ill avg them out. ended up with 50 of his autos. when I actually seen that post I laughed because he didn't say he'd calm me out when we were messaging. I didn't threaten him. he swore he sent 9 and he didn't. and this was a long time ago

this is way different. the seller wouldn't even respond, I was honest with this guy and he choose the out come.
It was a long time ago but I still remember it clear as day because it was my first, and unfortunately not most recent, eBay encounter with someone I believed to be trying to scam me.

I won't fault you for not remembering specifics. But you did, IN FACT, threaten me that you'd file a PayPal claim and/or leave "appropriate" feedback. Go back to my original thread, it's not nearly as long as this one, and my post with our messages is post #17.

thanks for reminding me it was for a 12 card lot. either way what did I do wrong on that?
Threat. By the way, to refresh your memory, you never did file a PayPal claim but you did leave positive feedback stating I shorted you cards.

when I buy cards of a guy I want my range could be 10-15 each.ill buy up to 50 if I can and average them all. these(Carlson) fell in the same range. when I go after guys price doesn't matter to me if its in my range. another example- ive paid $3-20 on Vlad NNO and have 80. I was shorted a few and didn't say anything cause they were on the low end for 10cts. I bought all 3 and seller and he sent 27. I sent a message and he wanted to send money I said no cause they were cheap.
I know FOR A FACT that you aggressively will pursue partial refunds (perhaps only when not offered to you?) when you claim shorts.

By the way, it seems you get shorted cards an awful lot. Maybe it's just the high volume of buys you make, but to me, it seems like a pattern of behavior on your part.

man I hope I can meet you in person. id love for you to chime in like this in real life. you're #@#@#@#@ing annoying as hell.

WE KNOW IT DOESNT SAY SAPPHIRE SUBBED! it did when I offered on it. if I can go back in time I would've snapped shot it just for you
Threats seem to be in your MO.

That said, if you're ever in the Houston area, I'm happy to meet up with you in person to tell you face to face what I think of you. Not a threat, a simple offer to meet up for coffee or something to explain to you why I (and apparently others) think you're shady.

I'd like to believe that you don't try to be this way, and that it's just a matter of nobody constructively pointing out to you why your behavior screams of being disingenuous.

and again I said I could've just sent the card back and claimed it was damaged.
Per your statements, the card wasn't damaged. If anything, it would be returned for the item not being as described (I can't recall the exact terminology), so why keep harping on the damage return? Because it's the easiest way to return/refund even though it's an inaccurate claim? I really don't understand this one.

[Treadstone]

cwcardz4u sounds like he has problems with every purchase... where there is smoke there is fire...

[Tier1Breaks]

The buyer is obviously clueless and doesn't understand what personal responsibility is. I know the seller personally and you are pissed that Ebay didn't rule in your favor. They have been contacted and the neg feedback is being removed. Enjoy that blue Jrod that you think isn't worth $40.

[cwcardz4u]

I'm the guy (seller in 2018) that OP (buyer in 2018) tried to scam in 2018 regarding the Sam Carlson auto lot.

What I know for a fact is that OP uses threats to attempt to get what he wants (feedback extortion as noted in my 2018 forum post asking for advice).

That fact alone is enough for me to never buy from OP or sell to OP (knowingly) ever again.

Some other thoughts I have after reading all of the posts in this thread:


YOUR search results returned an item that did NOT imply it was Sapphire, that is YOUR problem, not the seller's.


Saying I'm 99.9% sure I sent all 12 cards does NOT mean I'm second-guessing what I sent you. Perhaps my being a stickler for details or approaching things analytically misled you into believing that 0.1% chance I'm wrong means I'm second-guessing myself. That is not correct. What it means is that there is a 1 in 1,000 chance that I made a mistake in packaging.

That said, while I had no need to update my 2018 post after some time, I am happy to say - a full 2 years later - that I am now 100% sure I sent you all 12 cards.

To this day, those alleged 3 missing base autos still have not appeared.

But I'm open to the possibility that YOU made a mistake when opening the package and that those 3 missing cards were not counted when they should have been.


If "that post from way back" is my 2018 post, I still don't find it funny to this day. I offered you a full refund to send back the 9 you claimed to get, you chose not to, instead asking for a partial credit/refund. Then, when I wouldn't give you a partial, you threatened me.

At the very least, it's unprofessional. In reality, it's shady.


These folks and their "investigation" approach helped me tremendously in my dealing with you 2 years ago. I appreciate the people on this forum greatly, it helps me continue to believe there are good people to transact with.


Maybe you don't return cards but you sure as hell do try to get partial refunds, this is fact.


Thanks for your help in 2018, and for posting again in that thread to link me to this thread.


It was a long time ago but I still remember it clear as day because it was my first, and unfortunately not most recent, eBay encounter with someone I believed to be trying to scam me.

I won't fault you for not remembering specifics. But you did, IN FACT, threaten me that you'd file a PayPal claim and/or leave "appropriate" feedback. Go back to my original thread, it's not nearly as long as this one, and my post with our messages is post #17.


Threat. By the way, to refresh your memory, you never did file a PayPal claim but you did leave positive feedback stating I shorted you cards.


I know FOR A FACT that you aggressively will pursue partial refunds (perhaps only when not offered to you?) when you claim shorts.

By the way, it seems you get shorted cards an awful lot. Maybe it's just the high volume of buys you make, but to me, it seems like a pattern of behavior on your part.


Threats seem to be in your MO.

That said, if you're ever in the Houston area, I'm happy to meet up with you in person to tell you face to face what I think of you. Not a threat, a simple offer to meet up for coffee or something to explain to you why I (and apparently others) think you're shady.

I'd like to believe that you don't try to be this way, and that it's just a matter of nobody constructively pointing out to you why your behavior screams of being disingenuous.


Per your statements, the card wasn't damaged. If anything, it would be returned for the item not being as described (I can't recall the exact terminology), so why keep harping on the damage return? Because it's the easiest way to return/refund even though it's an inaccurate claim? I really don't understand this one.

get over it! you shorted me. re read you nervous Nancy comments.

[cwcardz4u]

The buyer is obviously clueless and doesn't understand what personal responsibility is. I know the seller personally and you are pissed that Ebay didn't rule in your favor. They have been contacted and the neg feedback is being removed. Enjoy that blue Jrod that you think isn't worth $40.

who cares that you know him. I simply asked for a return because of the mistake. he denied it.

[no10pin]

who cares that you know him. I simply asked for a return because of the mistake. he denied it.

There was no mistake by the seller. It's been pointed out several times, you simply can't take something appearing in an eBay search result as gospel. The seller is responsible for his/her listing, not how eBay returns results.

The only mistake is right here in your own quote:

here's how it went. I typed in 2019 sapphire. this showed up in that search. I buy on my phone and didn't pay attention to the pic cause it looked like the sapphire. I got the card it was draft not sapphire draft. I messaged the seller what happened and file a request for a refund. he declinded it. as a buyer am I really SOL? or a seller would you accept? #@#@#@#@ happens. I COULDVE LIED AND SAID IT WAS DAMAGED but I didn't cause it wasn't.

To answer your questions, as the buyer I would take the loss, and as the seller I would refuse the refund.

[cwcardz4u]

There was no mistake by the seller. It's been pointed out several times, you simply can't take something appearing in an eBay search result as gospel. The seller is responsible for his/her listing, not how eBay returns results.

The only mistake is right here in your own quote:

here's how it went. I typed in 2019 sapphire. this showed up in that search. I buy on my phone and didn't pay attention to the pic cause it looked like the sapphire. I got the card it was draft not sapphire draft. I messaged the seller what happened and file a request for a refund. he declinded it. as a buyer am I really SOL? or a seller would you accept? #@#@#@#@ happens. I COULDVE LIED AND SAID IT WAS DAMAGED but I didn't cause it wasn't.

To answer your questions, as the buyer I would take the loss, and as the seller I would refuse the refund.


Again, it showed up in sapphire search. No ones ever bought cards without checking the pics on chrome? Seller should ignore messages? It was a mistake so again buyer is SOL? I don’t get why anyone wouldn’t understand a mistake. This isn’t buyers remorse, fraud or anything else.

[no10pin]

Again, it showed up in sapphire search. No ones ever bought cards without checking the pics on chrome? Seller should ignore messages? It was a mistake so again buyer is SOL? I don’t get why anyone wouldn’t understand a mistake. This isn’t buyers remorse, fraud or anything else.

Nobody cares. A search result is not the same as the seller's listing, and the seller is not responsible for a result showing up where it doesn't belong. As far as buying cards without checking the pics, no, I don't do that. If I did and this happened to me, it would be a lesson learned.

You bought based on an assumption, not based on the listing. The mistake is yours, and yours alone. The seller could have refunded your money, but isn't obligated to do it

[Cavaliercards]

Again, it showed up in sapphire search. No ones ever bought cards without checking the pics on chrome? Seller should ignore messages? It was a mistake so again buyer is SOL? I don’t get why anyone wouldn’t understand a mistake. This isn’t buyers remorse, fraud or anything else.

Did seller list it as sapphire?

Yes or no?

Answer is no

Is the card pictured sapphire?

No

Does seller have to accept the return for your mistake?

No

Was your feedback appropriate?

No

Will your feedback be removed?

Yep

Did you say you would say the card was damaged when it was not to force a return?

Yes

End result the mistake was made by the buyer and not the seller, he has zero obligation.

[Cavaliercards]

And banned!!!


Thank you moderators!

[shrevecity]

And banned!!!


Thank you moderators!

He'll be back.. Or at least try. His type cannot stay away

[txrngr34]

And banned!!!


Thank you moderators!If only a ban could force him out of the hobby altogether.

[glen87]

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[natbornkiller]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-20-2015/Dc73js.gif

[hche]

lol... when i searched with the word Sapphire only 5 items showed up and then there were crap load of listings after that tiny line "Results matching fewer words" ebay put in. I bet OP missed that line and that's why the listing showed up under Sapphire search (he thought). It seems like all the mistakes were on OP and he deserved to be banned based on his posts.

[chezball]

quoted for your removal.

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[salthill]

If only a ban could force him out of the hobby altogether.

But he buys so much! What will the hobby do without him?!

[shrevecity]

Appears that neg has been removed as well.

[glen87]

Appears that neg has been removed as well.

why yes, yes it does :)!

[Cavaliercards]

Appears that neg has been removed as well.

eBay doing the right thing! :)!

[txrngr34]

eBay doing the right thing! :)!Everyone can luck into doing the right thing. Don't expect eBay to be consistent.

[shrevecity]

Everyone can luck into doing the right thing. Don't expect eBay to be consistent.

They have been pretty consistent with me over the past year or so. Have won more claims than I have lost.