1985 Michael Jordan Nike Promo - thoughts?

[Brent72]

Hi folks, I am new to the community and had a question regarding re-submittals from BSG to PSA. I picked up 2 Jordan Nike cards 5 years ago, both graded BSG 9. In the order of Centering/ Corners/ Edges/ Surface, one is a 9.5/9.5/9.5/8.5 and the other is 9.5/9/9/8.5.

Would you recommend resubmitting? I know it is a gamble. I think I may not do it to the first slab because it is so close to a 9.5. Thanks for all your help!

I definitely wouldn't resubmit the one with 3 9.5s. Knowing Beckett there's no way it would come back with the same grades.

[TKF]

Thanks, Brent72! I am a bit nervous if I submit the second slab to PSA, it may come back as a 8. I will have to seriously think this over.

[Dame]

8.5 on surface will probably get you a PSA 8.

PSA is tough on corners and surface, especially for vintage cards.

[Mustang1990]

more room for these to continue to grow?

[Dame]

more room for these to continue to grow?

Hard to say, things are moving so fast. I’d say the PSA 9 will have a slow climb at $18k to $20k, which is still an astonishing spike since they were just $4900 3 weeks ago.


A Goldin/PwCC PSA 10 will dictate the market for these from this point. If you own one, hold until you see another record breaking sale.

[yoyosh]

A PSA 10 sold this morning for $35k

[Mustang1990]

Is that more or less than last sale?

[Dame]

Is that more or less than last sale?

Same as the last one which is smart for the buyer if you really believe in this card. A PSA 10 with PWCC has finally surfaced which is probably going to sell for more. If it does, it’s going to cause a wave of price increase.

[Mustang1990]

Same as the last one which is smart for the buyer if you really believe in this card. A PSA 10 with PWCC has finally surfaced which is probably going to sell for more. If it does, it’s going to cause a wave of price increase.Ahhhh this is what we've been waiting for!

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[tripncards]

Same as the last one which is smart for the buyer if you really believe in this card. A PSA 10 with PWCC has finally surfaced which is probably going to sell for more. If it does, it’s going to cause a wave of price increase.

I see it. I've listed reference links below. Let's see how it goes


PSA 10's.

PWCC Open Bidding = Currently at $23k+ below. 55 bids.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Nike-Promo-Michael-Jordan-ROOKIE-RC-PSA-10-GEM-MINT/353381808476?hash=item524732795c:g:gG0AAOSwS9RgIdWw


BIN = $125k below

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Nike-Promo-Michael-Jordan-Rookie-PSA-10-Gem-Mint-RC/164680684998?hash=item2657bbd5c6:g:kUMAAOSwljBgGJDl

BIN =$70k below

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Nike-Promo-RC-Michael-Jordan-PSA-10-Gem-Mint-PSA-10-RARE-Pre-Rookie/224341035863?hash=item343bc48b57:g:VNMAAOSwoONgHaDG

[Dame]

I see it. I've listed reference links below. Let's see how it goes


PSA 10's.

PWCC Open Bidding = Currently at $23k+ below. 55 bids.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Nike-Promo-Michael-Jordan-ROOKIE-RC-PSA-10-GEM-MINT/353381808476?hash=item524732795c:g:gG0AAOSwS9RgIdWw


BIN = $125k below

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Nike-Promo-Michael-Jordan-Rookie-PSA-10-Gem-Mint-RC/164680684998?hash=item2657bbd5c6:g:kUMAAOSwljBgGJDl

BIN =$70k below

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Nike-Promo-RC-Michael-Jordan-PSA-10-Gem-Mint-PSA-10-RARE-Pre-Rookie/224341035863?hash=item343bc48b57:g:VNMAAOSwoONgHaDG


I’d be shocked if the 10 sells for the same amount, PWCC is shilled but they have a larger audience that trusts their service.

I’m going to say $40 but it could very well reach the $50k mark. We’ll see...

[MallcopKJ]

Glad to see these being talked about and on the rise!

My mother actually purchased three sealed sets back in 1985 and they were given to me about a year ago. It seems like a sealed set right now is going for about $3,000 to 3,500.

What do you guys think the best course of action for the sets would be? Should I open them and send them in for grading or leave them sealed?

[aaronking23]

^I'd def grade with psa especially if you hit a 9 it'll be worth it

The sealed sets are forged also so if you decide to sell the sealed sets maybe get a third party (baseballcardexchange) to authenticate so you could get more $$

[aaronking23]

10 is at 40k w/344 watchers 2 days left

[yoyosh]

5 days since my post above...fascinating to watch the market on these move so swiftly.

Today (Feb 6) there are
36 graded copies for sale on eBay
2 PSA 9s sold on Thurs, none yesterday and none so far today
Cheapest BIN is for a PSA 4 @ $2323.23 OBO


56 auctions of PSA graded copes for sale right now on eBay (several others in lots or BGS/other grading companies)

8 PSA copies sold yesterday (Sunday) as well as a couple non-PSA examples

Cheapest BIN is a PSA 5 @ $3500 (or Best Offer)

[bikeluvr]

Hello everyone. I have been reading this thread and have seen everyone's postings. Very interesting. I personally own 2 of these sets (received at a card convention back in the mid 80's). I decided to open one and keep the other one sealed for now. The set I opened, I am sending the Jordan card to Beckett for grading. My reason is Beckett (in my opinion) is a little harder than PSA. Depending on how it comes back, I will probably place on Ebay. For grading with Beckett (i.e. sub grades, quick turn around 5-10 business grades, etc.) it cost me $340. Wish me luck. I feel that if you plan on re-selling the card, get it graded. If you don't plan on selling the card, then keep it tucked away. That's why I am grading one and keeping one. If all goes well, I could it the mother load and pay for my kids to go to college. At worse case scenario, if it doesn't come back high, then at least get my money back ($340) and a few extra bucks to buy other cards. Wish me luck.

[Dame]

But Goldin and the Chernin Group expect the market to thrive for years to come. An influx of new buyers from all around the world means interest is only primed to grow.

“Outside of the U.S., it is impossible to buy cards,” Goldin said. “When that problem is solved, and people in Australia, Korea, Japan, China and Denmark — all these hot beds — can have easy access to buying and selling cards, you’ll see an explosion in the marketplace.”

[tripncards]

PSA 10 ended tonight for 50k

[visualplane]

“Outside of the U.S., it is impossible to buy cards,” Goldin said. “When that problem is solved, and people in Australia, Korea, Japan, China and Denmark — all these hot beds — can have easy access to buying and selling cards, you’ll see an explosion in the marketplace.”

That would be nice :P

[sportsyard]

where is this card going, pop is just over 100. Iconic image. Based on scarcity, could this go to $100k?

[ThePackLife]

It's crazy seeing PSA 10's hit all time highs. To be 100% transparent though since I own two PSA 9's and an 8... PSA 9's have actually taken a dip from it's 16K high and is selling around the 10K range. One of the reasons I didn't wanna sell at an ATH cause it would be a massive headache to have to deal with a random return request due to the rapid price dip.

[LeonfromNC]

Psa 9 went from 16k to 10k and psa 8 from 6k to 4k in a matter a few days.

Will they continue to drop?

[doubledribble]

Looks like people that missed out on this card have moved on to the 1991 set. People are paying dumb money for sealed sets. They were $10-15 a piece even after the last dance.

[yoyosh]

5 days since my post above...fascinating to watch the market on these move so swiftly.

Today (Feb 6) there are
36 graded copies for sale on eBay
2 PSA 9s sold on Thurs, none yesterday and none so far today
Cheapest BIN is for a PSA 4 @ $2323.23 OBO

There's now 57 PSA graded copies for sale on eBay.
10 copies sold between Weds and Thurs

"Supply" on eBay has been consistently going up for 5 weeks

[Dame]

It's crazy seeing PSA 10's hit all time highs. To be 100% transparent though since I own two PSA 9's and an 8... PSA 9's have actually taken a dip from it's 16K high and is selling around the 10K range. One of the reasons I didn't wanna sell at an ATH cause it would be a massive headache to have to deal with a random return request due to the rapid price dip.

I foresaw it but considering the new high for a PSA10 of $50k, $10k for a PSA 9 is such a great deal.

[Erikthredd]

Looks like people that missed out on this card have moved on to the 1991 set. People are paying dumb money for sealed sets. They were $10-15 a piece even after the last dance.

They’re paying even dumber money for the Nike Looney Tune Sticker set. These were under $10/set forever and last one just sold for $910.:doh:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?rmvHdr=false&ebay-mobile-status=success&_from=R40&_oac=1&_nkw=michael+jordan+Nike+Looney+tunes&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=01844&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_sop=10&_dmd=1&_ipg=200&LH_Complete=1&_fosrp=1

[aaronking23]

Some people seem to be panic selling that prob got in high

With a card lie this that isn't particularily rare you have to think long term , believe in the card and have strong hands

Small retraces are completely normal and healthy

The demand is there just have to be patient

[Illustrious]

If PSA 9’s drop a little lower I’ll definitely be a buyer, I think the long term upside is positive.

[ThePackLife]

I foresaw it but considering the new high for a PSA10 of $50k, $10k for a PSA 9 is such a great deal.

Regardless of low pop reports, it seems like PWCC and Probstein have an infinite amount of them to sell... lol.

[ThePackLife]

Some people seem to be panic selling that prob got in high

With a card lie this that isn't particularily rare you have to think long term , believe in the card and have strong hands

Small retraces are completely normal and healthy

The demand is there just have to be patient

THIS, all of it.

I need prices to stabilize for a good month or two atleast before I'd even consider selling.

[aaronking23]

one of those cards you just stash away and go back picking up rare stuff

steady solid growth

[Spartanwilliam]

one of those cards you just stash away and go back picking up rare stuff

steady solid growth

I agree. But it is "rare" in terms of MJ cards. The population reports are tiny compared to the fleer.

[captionwanker]

Regardless of low pop reports, it seems like PWCC and Probstein have an infinite amount of them to sell... lol.

imo, one of the reasons the price dropped so much. People wanted to cash out and they flooded the market. Once these sales are completed in a month or two, I think we see them trickle back up.

[Brent72]

I have a BGS 9, but I'm seriously thinking about picking up a PSA 9 now if I can get one at the right price.

[captionwanker]

I have a BGS 9, but I'm seriously thinking about picking up a PSA 9 now if I can get one at the right price.

Do it, you will regret it when there’s a substantial value difference in a few years like 57 Jordans. I’m thinking about selling my two PSA 8s for a 9 if it’s gets to 8-9k.

[sportsyard]

How does everyone feel about the PSA 9 at $10k?

[tripncards]

How does everyone feel about the PSA 9 at $10k?

My feelings are, I first posted this thread in late 2020 and prices were starting to really pick up with PSA's 4-6 being had for less than $1,000.

Fast forward to February 2021 and eBay is flooded with 1985 Jordan PSA's in all grades. I feel the peak is slowly starting to level off with dips here and there depending on the day. I feel in the long run this card will hold good value with market correction to take place.

To answer your question, I feel you can get it cheaper after some patience and watching for new auctions on eBay. Good luck.

[Brent72]

There was a BIN on a PSA 9 yesterday for $8500 so it's definitely available under the $10k mark now which is good for a potential buyer like myself. :cool:

[Dame]

Older slabs are going for slightly less, if this doesn’t bother you, that’s a
good move.

[tripncards]

Older slabs are going for slightly less, if this doesn’t bother you, that’s a
good move.

That's interesting. I feel an older slab wouldn't bother me personally at all but that's just me. I'd be happy to take a Fleer Rookie Jordan Older Slab PSA 10 anytime lol. I get what you're saying though.

[Brent72]

Yeah, I'm not one of those people bothered by older slabs either. Most of my PSA stuff is in old slabs because the cards were graded light years ago. Doesn't affect my opinion of them one bit.

[sportsyard]

I personally think at some point in the next 6 months a PSA 10 hits $75k. What does that mean for PSA 9's? $17-18k?

[tripncards]

Psa 9. No seller history. $5k obo

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-michael-jordan-nike-promo-card-psa-9-/353396618829?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

[Dame]

Psa 9. No seller history. $5k obo

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-michael-jordan-nike-promo-card-psa-9-/353396618829?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

If it’s too good to be true...

[ThePackLife]

Some advice in regards to old vs. new slabs... I know some of you prefer the vintage slabs but make sure you look at the pics because some of those old slabs are extremely damaged with cracks and scuffs but is not noted in the listing. I actually prefer newer slabs just for the cleaner look.

Also, does anyone know when they switched the text on the slabs from "Basketball" to "Promo"? All of mine say Promo.

[tripncards]

Some advice in regards to old vs. new slabs... I know some of you prefer the vintage slabs but make sure you look at the pics because some of those old slabs are extremely damaged with cracks and scuffs but is not noted in the listing. I actually prefer newer slabs just for the cleaner look.

Also, does anyone know when they switched the text on the slabs from "Basketball" to "Promo"? All of mine say Promo.


Great point. I also noticed the older ones says basketball vs the newer ones saying promo. I don't know when that "verbiage change" occurred.

[sportsyard]

if the 10's continue to climb, would it be safe to say the 9's go to 25% of the 10? so PSA 10 = $60,000 then PSA = $15,000?

[sportsyard]

BGS 9.5 for this card should be what? 30% of a PSA 10?

[Dame]

if the 10's continue to climb, would it be safe to say the 9's go to 25% of the 10? so PSA 10 = $60,000 then PSA = $15,000?

Sounds about right. PSA 9’s are a steal right now at under $10k. They flooded the bay last 2 weeks but there seems to be less copies up for auction right now.

[sportsyard]

Sounds about right. PSA 9’s are a steal right now at under $10k. They flooded the bay last 2 weeks but there seems to be less copies up for auction right now.


I think the 10's go to $100,000, once Goldin starts selling them its blowup time. Pop is ridiculously low.

If thats the case I strongly believe the 9's are going to $15-18k minimum.

MJ RC's in general are massively undervalued in 9-10 grade with the run up in Lebron and Kobe lately.

[tripncards]

I think the 10's go to $100,000, once Goldin starts selling them its blowup time. Pop is ridiculously low.

If thats the case I strongly believe the 9's are going to $15-18k minimum.

MJ RC's in general are massively undervalued in 9-10 grade with the run up in Lebron and Kobe lately.

I currently see two on Goldin. One by BGS and one by PSA.

PSA 9 below. This is their older slab without the word "promo" on it. It looks like it also has some battle scars/scuffs.

Should be interesting.

https://goldinauctions.com/1985_Nike__2_Michael_Jordan_Rookie_Card___PSA_MINT-LOT77685.aspx

[sportsyard]

I currently see two on Goldin. One by BGS and one by PSA.

PSA 9 below. This is their older slab without the word "promo" on it. It looks like it also has some battle scars/scuffs.

Should be interesting.

https://goldinauctions.com/1985_Nike__2_Michael_Jordan_Rookie_Card___PSA_MINT-LOT77685.aspx

selfishly hoping these come down a little more so I can buy more. The 10 is never going to be below $45,000 again IMO

[tripncards]

Lots of 7-8-9's are on the bay. PSA 10 via PWCC is at 40k+. Prices are cooling off.

PSA 10 - 40k+ - 58 bids.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Nike-Promo-Michael-Jordan-ROOKIE-RC-PSA-10-GEM-MINT/353390326413?hash=item5247b4728d:g:J4AAAOSwLLlgLGoK

[aaronking23]

lol at all the panic sells

this card had a great run up and has a low pop for a jordan rc (not insert/parallel) with a sweet image

def gonna go up over time

[Brent72]

I saw one PSA 9 sell for $6500 last night and then one go for $8800 today. Both were from small sellers and not PWCC or Probstein so I have to believe the auctions were legit. Just shocked at the price difference, especially since the one with the older PSA label ended up selling for over $2k more.

[sportsyard]

I'm buying more 9's. love the long term upside of this image. I still think the 10 eventually goes for $100k+. Im fortunate to have a 10 and I won't be selling it.

[tripncards]

I'm buying more 9's. love the long term upside of this image. I still think the 10 eventually goes for $100k+. Im fortunate to have a 10 and I won't be selling it.

If a psa 10 hits 100k and is a true completed sale over and over again then I would sell. That is life altering $ for me. I saw eBay has been flooded with 1985 Jordan Promos. Prices are a little cooler for the lower grades. On the flip side people with sgc or psa 10 are selling theirs for a lot higher than the norm. I’m still watching on the sidelines in terms of up or down trends. Overall the trend has been up.

[sportsyard]

If a psa 10 hits 100k and is a true completed sale over and over again then I would sell. That is life altering $ for me. I saw eBay has been flooded with 1985 Jordan Promos. Prices are a little cooler for the lower grades. On the flip side people with sgc or psa 10 are selling theirs for a lot higher than the norm. I’m still watching on the sidelines in terms of up or down trends. Overall the trend has been up.

The last couple weeks was flooded. Not much inventory up there now. Lots of panic selling. Crazy that $6500 comp the other day, someone got a steal on that card. A PSA 9 below $8000 right now is an absolute steal.

[Brent72]

The last couple weeks was flooded. Not much inventory up there now. Lots of panic selling. Crazy that $6500 comp the other day, someone got a steal on that card. A PSA 9 below $8000 right now is an absolute steal.

I had a $6400 bid on that card and got sniped at the last second. In hindsight, I should have put in something closer to $7k and I probably would have won it. :(

[aaronking23]

If you had 2 would you guys trade/sell one to get a rare 90s jordan? Thinking of doing this

[captionwanker]

If you had 2 would you guys trade/sell one to get a rare 90s jordan? Thinking of doing this

If you had an extra 8, I’ll do it. I wouldn’t sell a 9 unless I got a dui.

[sfreedy2010]

Looking to buy a psa 9

[sportsyard]

Looks like supply is shrinking and prices are moving up again. Whoever got that last PSA 10 for $40k was a steal.

[thenwhatjk]

Looks like supply is shrinking and prices are moving up again. Whoever got that last PSA 10 for $40k was a steal.

They’re all dried up!!!!1!1!1!1!!!1!11

[Goozeman25]

I haven’t read the whole thread. That said, since this is before the 1986 fleer would this be considered to some as a “true” RC?

[Brent72]

I haven’t read the whole thread. That said, since this is before the 1986 fleer would this be considered to some as a “true” RC?

Not in my opinion. If anything would be considered a "true" RC above the Fleer it's the Star 101.

[Greenbee]

Goldin had a PSA 9 sell for 6k tonight, seems like a steal...


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[Brent72]

Goldin had a PSA 9 sell for 6k tonight, seems like a steal...


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So much high end stuff was up for auction this weekend something like that got lost in the shuffle.

[tripncards]

eBay is getting tons of graded cards.

I see a BGS 9 for $5000.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Michael-Jordan-Nike-Promo-RC-BGS-9-MINT/333914180780?hash=item4dbed60cac:g:ZH8AAOSwOKpgIf1p

I see a PSA 9 for $9000 obo

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Nike-Promo-Michael-Jordan-ROOKIE-RC-PSA-9-MINT/224378341504?hash=item343dfdc880:g:bkIAAOSw7GpgRj6J

[sportsyard]

landed a BGS 9 with 2 9.5 subs last night for $4k.... just adding to the collection now, as long as prices stay this low Im loading up on this card.

[tripncards]

I was at the Dallas Card show and I found a few dealers selling theirs in the range of eBay's sold prices.

[booyahlaw]

I pulled the trigger on a 9 tonight. Prepare for the steep decline in prices now!

[captionwanker]

I pulled the trigger on a 9 tonight. Prepare for the steep decline in prices now!

Thank you for your sacrifice

[tripncards]

A very fair SGC set. Even with an authentic grade, I personally like this whole set.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Freshly-Graded-SGC-Michael-Jordan-Rookie-1985-Nike-Promo-Complete-Set-RARE/114729909929?_trkparms=aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201018205123%26meid%3D8ca009d4bc35459e9868a4ecab64a7a3%26pid%3D101286%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D114729909929%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DWatchlistVariant&_trksid=p2380057.c101286.m47999&_trkparms=pageci%3Aff39f0dc-872c-11eb-8ce1-ba18505bd745%7Cparentrq%3A409636861780acb111d80da3ffe19e42%7Ciid%3A8

[booyahlaw]

So, is there a difference between the 1985 nikes that say “promo” on the psa label and the ones that say “basketball”. Looks like the naming convention may have changed with psa and it’s the same card (promo is written on the more modern labels), but thought I would ask the experts.

[sportsyard]

I was at the Dallas Card show and I found a few dealers selling theirs in the range of eBay's sold prices.

$6k for a 9 or higher?

[sportsyard]

My logic on why the 9's are really undervalued.

The pop reports of the 10 Jordan RC's are super similar. so assume a Nike 10 is worth $50k? and a Fleer 10 is worth $500k? It would be safe to assume the Nike 9 would be roughly 10% of the value of the Fleer 9.

I personally think that if the Fleer 10 is worth $500k then a Fleer 9 is wickedly undervalued at $50-60k. The 9 should be closer to $100k (20%). That would mean the Nike card's value is closer to $10k for a 9 at 10% of the value of the Fleer 9. Right now they are $6k, which is 10% of the value of the Fleer 9.

This card only stands to go up with the Fleer card rising. Its current dip is also directly correlated to the dip in the Fleer the last month. If you believe in the Fleer RC, then this is a cheaper arbitrage

[agsstructures]

Had my eyes on a 9 but they were out of my budget, even with the recent dip. Managed to pick up an 8 that's in transit.

Love this card and glad to add it to my PC!

[ninjacookies]

My logic on why the 9's are really undervalued.

The pop reports of the 10 Jordan RC's are super similar. so assume a Nike 10 is worth $50k? and a Fleer 10 is worth $500k? It would be safe to assume the Nike 9 would be roughly 10% of the value of the Fleer 9.

I personally think that if the Fleer 10 is worth $500k then a Fleer 9 is wickedly undervalued at $50-60k. The 9 should be closer to $100k (20%). That would mean the Nike card's value is closer to $10k for a 9 at 10% of the value of the Fleer 9. Right now they are $6k, which is 10% of the value of the Fleer 9.

This card only stands to go up with the Fleer card rising. Its current dip is also directly correlated to the dip in the Fleer the last month. If you believe in the Fleer RC, then this is a cheaper arbitrage



The problem is that you're trying to apply straight across logic for a promo card bundled with a shoe purchase vs. a pack issued card from the most iconic set in bkb history. No workie.


I agree with the underlying premise that anything early Jordan is money in the bank long term, but thinking that these promos should close the gap vs. 86 fleer because similar population reports...I don't see it.

[tripncards]

It seems from closed auction sales, prices are starting to cool down.

[aaronking23]

goin back up

[thenwhatjk]

goin back up

Do the Fleer next

[tripncards]

The card prices are fluctuating for this one. Still watching....!

[GatorPie]

I have a BGS 7.5 that is now so cold I was considering just tossing it out.

[aaronking23]

Bron and Brady are hot great time to buy Kobe/Jordan

[sportsyard]

Bought two BGS 9's for $3k each. Absolute steals. Love this card long term. Some influencers are jumping on board now as well it seems.

[sportsyard]

horrible night of comps for the card with probstein. $3500 for a PSA 9, less then 10% of a PSA 10

[ninjacookies]

Obvious market manipulation by the paupers.

[sportsyard]

Obvious market manipulation by the paupers.

Hard to say. To answer your point earlier in the thread. While I agree in general that its not the same as the 86 Fleer, this card is the most iconic image on any sports card every created. its in a different category given the connections to Nike and the Jordan brand.

It perhaps might not have the same metrics as an 86 Fleer in % terms but my new values are set

PSA 10 = $50,000
PSA 9 = $7500

This card in PSA 9 is one of the best investments (low risk mid to high upside returns) out there right now along with the Bowman Chrome LeBron RC....

[captionwanker]

horrible night of comps for the card with probstein. $3500 for a PSA 9, less then 10% of a PSA 10

What a steal, missed out because probstein has so many ending at the same time. My cheap ass, Lost all of them

[Elitecards]

No sure if anyone is still interested in these cards, but I obtained some in the UK and have put them up for sale on Ebay.com.

I haven't read this whole thread but if anyone was interested, feel free to type

One 1998 NIKE AIR JORDAN CARDS plus 1989 card

into Ebay and you should find them.

If you have any questions about them, please message me on Ebay

[pingbling23]

Sounds legit

[tripncards]

Lots of Jordan cards out there on the bay. I was able to pick up an SGC Graded 2.5 Jordan + the rest of the cards graded 8.5 for $900+tax. I'm just happy to have that as a set, regardless of the grading company. I'll sell my 1985 Jordan PSA 10 in the future.

[tripncards]

PSA 10's are holding "steady" . PSA 9's etc are cooling down a little bit. I'm curious to see how this pans out in the future long term.

[Stoiclife]

Definitely a bucket list card for me. An iconic photo and an absolutely gorgeous card aesthetically. I'm kicking myself that I didn't pull the trigger on a psa 9 a few years back :/

[tripncards]

This week I was offered $25k cash for my PSA 10 Nike Jordan @ The Dallas Card Show. PSA Book Value is $27,500. eBay is selling a tad over that on completed listings. What are your thoughts short term and long term on a 10?

[sportsyard]

This week I was offered $25k cash for my PSA 10 Nike Jordan @ The Dallas Card Show. PSA Book Value is $27,500. eBay is selling a tad over that on completed listings. What are your thoughts short term and long term on a 10?

I have a few 10's and 9's and I think the card is a steal at these prices. More so the 10's. I'd be a buyer at $25k, so that means Im bullish on the card. 3 10's being sold by PWCC this week will hurt it short term. I think the 9's are ultimately going to settle around $4500... and the 10's should trade at anywhere from 8-10 times.

[pcptrade]

This week I was offered $25k cash for my PSA 10 Nike Jordan @ The Dallas Card Show. PSA Book Value is $27,500. eBay is selling a tad over that on completed listings. What are your thoughts short term and long term on a 10?

Any reason why you did not sell when it hit 50K? You were tracking the prices regularly

PSA 10 ended tonight for 50k

[KhalDrogo]

This week I was offered $25k cash for my PSA 10 Nike Jordan @ The Dallas Card Show. PSA Book Value is $27,500. eBay is selling a tad over that on completed listings. What are your thoughts short term and long term on a 10?
Should have taken it. The copy with Goldin this weekend sold for $18450.

[r338]

BGS 9 $2,520.00 heritage 5/20/21
PSA 9 $3,360.00 heritage 5/6/21
BGS 9.5 $6,420.00 heritage 5/6/21

[r338]

BGS 9 $2,337.00 Goldin 5/23/21
PSA 10 $18,450.00 Goldin 5/23/21

[sportsyard]

BGS 9 $2,337.00 Goldin 5/23/21
PSA 10 $18,450.00 Goldin 5/23/21

ugly comp for the PSA 10. Thats a great buy for whoever got it though. Im thinking its time to cash my chips on 9's and buy more 10's!

[sportsyard]

Should have taken it. The copy with Goldin this weekend sold for $18450.

why would someone panic sell in a complete down market on a card with only 117 PSA 10's. That's absolutely stupid advice

[pcptrade]

why would someone panic sell in a complete down market on a card with only 117 PSA 10's. That's absolutely stupid advice

I guess it depends on the cost basis and exit strategy. There is a likelihood that prices could drop more and may not go back much in the next few years.

[KhalDrogo]

why would someone panic sell in a complete down market on a card with only 117 PSA 10's. That's absolutely stupid advice
He could have sold his copy for $25k and bought the Goldin copy for $18.4K. Instant $6.6k to simply keep a PSA 10.

You’ve got a problem with me, I can see. Sorry I declined your stupid “buy $20k worth of cards today and have to sell within a year” challenge. But by the looks of this thread, guess I should have just taken it. Would have been too easy.

[sebreg]

why would someone panic sell in a complete down market on a card with only 117 PSA 10's. That's absolutely stupid advice

I wouldn't, because if I had bought the idea for me is that I'd be largely be planning on the long hold. That said, if you are worried about further drops, it could be that you don't want to keep so much $$$ locked up for maybe years before it potentially rebounds. Maybe there are other things you want to shift your money to, sometimes you just chalk it up as a loss, eat it, and move on. The opportunity cost of holding the card...

[tripncards]

3 PSA 10's tonight on the bay via PWCC.

[sportsyard]

He could have sold his copy for $25k and bought the Goldin copy for $18.4K. Instant $6.6k to simply keep a PSA 10.

You’ve got a problem with me, I can see. Sorry I declined your stupid “buy $20k worth of cards today and have to sell within a year” challenge. But by the looks of this thread, guess I should have just taken it. Would have been too easy.

I actually do have a problem with you. You think you are rocket scientist and you aren't. How would this guy know the card in the Goldin auction would sell for $18k? He didn't have the information, no one did, it wasn't real time, its a transaction from the future.

Honestly, I think your a b*tch for not responding to my challenge. I lost all respect for you at that point. Its laughable that you post this stuff afterwards, you would get owned.

[tripncards]

Any reason why you did not sell when it hit 50K? You were tracking the prices regularly

No particular reason. I plan on holding for the long term. Just seeing what people would offer at the show in person.

[KhalDrogo]

I actually do have a problem with you. You think you are rocket scientist and you aren't. How would this guy know the card in the Goldin auction would sell for $18k? He didn't have the information, no one did, it wasn't real time, its a transaction from the future.

Honestly, I think your a b*tch for not responding to my challenge. I lost all respect for you at that point. Its laughable that you post this stuff afterwards, you would get owned.
:cry:

This card is stressing you out.

[sportsyard]

:cry:

This card is stressing you out.

not really bud. This is for fun. Hopefully I can get my hands on more. The fact you troll a forum with 18 posts a day is really sad. Grow up, or grow a pair.

[KhalDrogo]

not really bud. This is for fun. Hopefully I can get my hands on more.
Since you thought $40k was a steal, I’m assuming you’re picking up at least two of these tonight.

[sportsyard]

Since you thought $40k was a steal, I’m assuming you’re picking up at least two of these tonight.

I think its great value right now and I did get one. Happy to consolidate some other stuff I made great returns on and get this at an outstanding price. I actually think you are jealous of me.

[KhalDrogo]

I think its great value right now, so hopefully I do get one
Let us know which ones you win.

[r338]

This card has been dropping steadily. Three BGS 9 copies sold for around $1400 each in PWCC 5/31/21.

[6celtics33]

This card sucks

[r338]

PSA 10 eBay $16,200 5/31/21
PSA 10 eBay $16,000 5/31/21
PSA 10 eBay $16,300 5/31/21

[tripncards]

Prices cooling down. Like the PSA comments before this and SGC 10 @ $8100

[KhalDrogo]

This card sucks
It doesn’t suck, but it’s way too niche. PSA 8.5 86F or PSA 10 Nike? Which are you taking?

[KhalDrogo]

I think its great value right now and I did get one. Happy to consolidate some other stuff I made great returns on and get this at an outstanding price. I actually think you are jealous of me.
Which one did you win?

[6celtics33]

It doesn’t suck, but it’s way too niche. PSA 8.5 86F or PSA 10 Nike? Which are you taking?

Are they worth the same? Fleer if they are. I’d be selling both so whatever is more.

I’ve collected Jordan my whole life. Never even slightly wanted the nike.

[KhalDrogo]

Are they worth the same? Fleer if they are. I’d be selling both so whatever is more.

I’ve collected Jordan my whole life. Never even slightly wanted the nike.
Fleer is cheaper by $1-2k.

[6celtics33]

I think its great value right now and I did get one. Happy to consolidate some other stuff I made great returns on and get this at an outstanding price. I actually think you are jealous of me.

I’m jealous of you. I wish I could be an investor. Is there hope for someone like me to make fat stacks?

[sportsyard]

Let us know which ones you win.

$16,200 and very happy about it. congrats if there are any other buyers on here, you just made yourself money. I cashed profits from a bunch of Bird Magic RC's and put them into this.

[KhalDrogo]

$16,200 and very happy about it. congrats if there are any other buyers on here, you just made yourself money. I cashed profits from a bunch of Bird Magic RC's and put them into this.
I’m sure it will be $100k in no time!

[sportsyard]

I’m sure it will be $100k in no time!

No it probably won't. The market is down and this is an incredible opportunity to buy a low population RC. I hope it stays down so I can buy more. Best case it actually continues to drop. By next fall I will happily send the collection to Goldin and cash out.

[Derekbauer]

$16,200 and very happy about it. congrats if there are any other buyers on here, you just made yourself money. I cashed profits from a bunch of Bird Magic RC's and put them into this.

Why didn't you buy all 3 then?

If you've made 100's of thousands and you're so certain it's a good investment wouldn't it be a no brainer to buy all 3?

[sportsyard]

Why didn't you buy all 3 then?

If you've made 100's of thousands and you're so certain it's a good investment wouldn't it be a no brainer to buy all 3?

Im buying other cards as well. Gretzky refractors, Curry Exquisite autos etc. bought a property to flip. Multiple reasons. Its pretty obvious the market is down and will likely continue down further. If it turns up great, I'm playing with profits after cashing out my Messi's at the peak. I think based on this dip the basketball market could be soft until next fall.

3 of them ending tonight was a perfect storm to buy on a dip.

[thenwhatjk]

Enjoyable discourse gentlemen

[KhalDrogo]

No it probably won't. The market is down and this is an incredible opportunity to buy a low population RC. I hope it stays down so I can buy more. Best case it actually continues to drop. By next fall I will happily send the collection to Goldin and cash out.
It’s not a rookie card no matter what PWCC puts in the title.

[Derekbauer]

Im buying other cards as well. Gretzky refractors, Curry Exquisite autos etc. bought a property to flip. Multiple reasons. Its pretty obvious the market is down and will likely continue down further. If it turns up great, I'm playing with profits after cashing out my Messi's at the peak. I think based on this dip the basketball market could be soft until next fall.

3 of them ending tonight was a perfect storm to buy on a dip.

How many 10s and 9s is it for you now? You said you have multiples and aren’t selling any of them.

[sportsyard]

It’s not a rookie card no matter what PWCC puts in the title.

Thats your opinion and you are not the be all end all god of sports cards. You are a guy that averages 18+ posts a day on a sports card forum, that's it.

I love the 94 refractor in PSA 10 and I think at some point that's a $50k card in PSA 10. Is it a RC no it isn't.

[KhalDrogo]

From February 24...

selfishly hoping these come down a little more so I can buy more. The 10 is never going to be below $45,000 again IMO

Two days later it was under $45k. And now we’re back at August 2020 prices. This is definitely a guy you want to take advice about cards from.

[KhalDrogo]

Thats your opinion and you are not the be all end all god of sports cards. You are a guy that averages 18+ posts a day on a sports card forum, that's it.

I love the 94 refractor in PSA 10 and I think at some point that's a $50k card in PSA 10. Is it a RC no it isn't.
Such a good burn that you used it twice in one night!

[sportsyard]

How many 10s and 9s is it for you now? You said you have multiples and aren’t selling any of them.

I think there is a good chance the 9's I'm wrong on and they don't have much upside. Ive sold a couple privately in the last month for $4500 but still have a handful of 9's that I'm into for on average roughly $2500.

I originally was thinking the 10's would stay 5-6x's a 9. 10's whether the Fleer 86 or the sticker are really trading at 8-10x's a PSA 9.

Im guessing 9's continue to drop to $3500.... and the 10's settle at 35k at some point in the next 12 months.

[sportsyard]

From February 24...



Two days later it was under $45k. And now we’re back at August 2020 prices. This is definitely a guy you want to take advice about cards from.

The ENTIRE MARKET IS DOWN 50% form Feb 24th. Everyone has been wrong.

[cowboyzqna]

Enjoyable discourse gentlemen

Full clip.


People getting feisty over they cardboards deese days.

[sportsyard]

Such a good burn that you used it twice in one night!

Ya buddy. Exactly, I'm making a point of it. Let me make it clear, I find it odd you post that much on a sports card forum. The point you made about a guy using future pricing was so shameful in intellect I can't stand for this anymore. I don't want to see you posting. You need to stop. You need to get a better attitude. You need to step up when a challenge is made.

[KhalDrogo]

The ENTIRE MARKET IS DOWN 50% form Feb 24th. Everyone has been wrong.
No, the entire market is not down 50%. For shits and giggles...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210601/f24611a690684fdab31291f7fdeaf672.jpg

MJ Nike also peaked at $50k. So it’s actually down 68%.

[sportsyard]

No, the entire market is not down 50%. For shits and giggles...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210601/f24611a690684fdab31291f7fdeaf672.jpg

MJ Nike also peaked at $50k. So it’s actually down 68%.

Correct, yes the market is down between 50-70% on some cards, and some its actually up Im sure. Collectively if you took a basket of GOAT cards, its very likely the entire portfolio would be somewhere around 50% down, which is what I noted.

Is there something you aren't understanding? this is really weird behaviour out of you. Im also not sure why you are posting Messi cards, that doesn't even make sense. If you are trying to be funny alluding to that being my collection, you just look dumb. Its not the right card.

Also if your trying to annoy me you aren't, I actually think you are the most pathetic contributor on the forum and I will gladly criticize you every couple of days for posts you make or bully / negative remarks to make on threads you shouldn't be involved in.

Again you average 18 posts a day. Thats an insane waste of time. Smarten up.

[tripncards]

Prices have cooled off and of course as a whole in terms of the market itself. It was a nice spike while it lasted.

[r338]

This card has been going down rapidly.

BGS 9.5 $4500

PSA 9 $2500

It might be a good time to buy if it continues to drop further.

[pcptrade]

This card has been going down rapidly.

BGS 9.5 $4500

PSA 9 $2500

It might be a good time to buy if it continues to drop further.

Bought a PSA 9 for 3K in mid Jan and sold it for 11K early Feb. Glad I did not hold on to it.

[Mymoneypls]

Can I ask what do people think about the 1991 upper deck micheal Jordan baseball card? I’m considering adding to my PC really just looking at a PSA9

Thoughts would be appreciated? The card is $100


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[MBMiller25]

Bought a PSA 9 for 3K in mid Jan and sold it for 11K early Feb. Glad I did not hold on to it.

Ditto, but I cashed out at $10K.

[MBMiller25]

No it probably won't. The market is down and this is an incredible opportunity to buy a low population RC. I hope it stays down so I can buy more. Best case it actually continues to drop. By next fall I will happily send the collection to Goldin and cash out.

Don't hold your breath!

[r338]

Ditto, but I cashed out at $10K.

Now you can buy four PSA 9s if you still love this card!

[pcptrade]

Ditto, but I cashed out at $10K.

The 1986 Fleer #57 PSA 10 price manipulation, pump and dump caused a domino effect imo. People were looking for the next Fleer #57 in terms of price gains similar to next bitcoin in crypto:)

[rj.cataldo]

The 1986 Fleer #57 PSA 10 price manipulation, pump and dump caused a domino effect imo. People were looking for the next Fleer #57 in terms of price gains similar to next bitcoin in crypto:)


Agreed. $2500 is still a good price for this card. I don’t know how low it will go or what it’s ceiling is, but it was another fad. Still awesome card in my opinion and I held my psa 9 through the peak and drop.


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[MBMiller25]

Now you can buy four PSA 9s if you still love this card!

I dont love this card for the near term, I never "loved" this card at all, but moreso saw opportunity with everything that was going in the Jordan market.

In fact i feel overall that once we reach the bottom of this pull back in nearly all cards, prices will remain relatively static over the next 3-5 year period.

[MBMiller25]

The 1986 Fleer #57 PSA 10 price manipulation, pump and dump caused a domino effect imo. People were looking for the next Fleer #57 in terms of price gains similar to next bitcoin in crypto:)

I thought exactly the same thing. The Nike and the Star cards were slower to move in regards to the movement we saw on the #57 in all grades, that it just made to much sense to buy into both and ride the wave. Its been a fun ride.

[pcptrade]

I thought exactly the same thing. The Nike and the Star cards were slower to move in regards to the movement we saw on the #57 in all grades, that it just made to much sense to buy into both and ride the wave. Its been a fun ride.

Yeah, I also bought the Star Court Kings, Gatorade slam dunk and slam dunk supers in Jan and sold in Feb for almost 3X gains. Looking back, the market was on steroids in Jan and Feb.

[MBMiller25]

Yeah, I also bought the Star Court Kings, Gatorade slam dunk and slam dunk supers in Jan and sold in Feb for almost 3X gains. Looking back, the market was on steroids in Jan and Feb.

LOL, Miller Lite, Gatorade, Crunch N Munch and Court Kings for me too. Yes it absolutely was. My only regret..... I literally couldnt get everything sold quickly enough. Never imagined I would say that.

[imbluestreak23]

I 15xd my raw Nike promo after it graded BGS 9. Wasn’t peak but can’t complain with money

[MBMiller25]

I 15xd my raw Nike promo after it graded BGS 9. Wasn’t peak but can’t complain with money

well played!

[strider_boi]

What’s everyone thought on this Nike Jordan? It’s a 5x7 and from what I heard it was only given to sneakers stores for advertising. Only one I see sold was a psa 7 for 4k.

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[ReggieBush22]

Anybody have any thoughts on the super rare 6x8 version? Bought this one off of Oscar Garcia for $475 a few years back. He's the guy who wrote this book on MJ. https://www.amazon.com/dp/087341666X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_M78FMJJDPVZ8FSC3QX62

None of the big 3 companies would grade this card even though BGS used to. I have no idea why they won't, it's a legit item. Maybe due to the rarity? But still, they are the experts and should be able too. Super frustrating that I can't get this graded.

https://i.ibb.co/YdBG4HD/20201004-203815.jpg (https://ibb.co/my57rfv)

https://i.ibb.co/6y4HKZM/20201004-203751.jpg (https://ibb.co/yN86zR9)

[ReggieBush22]

What’s everyone thought on this Nike Jordan? It’s a 5x7 and from what I heard it was only given to sneakers stores for advertising. Only one I see sold was a psa 7 for 4k.

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Yup, love the 5x7 versions. High gloss finish and much, much rarer than the 3x5s.

[strider_boi]

Yup, love the 5x7 versions. High gloss finish and much, much rarer than the 3x5s.

Any thoughts on value?

[sebreg]

Anybody have any thoughts on the super rare 6x8 version? Bought this one off of Oscar Garcia for $475 a few years back. He's the guy who wrote this book on MJ. https://www.amazon.com/dp/087341666X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_M78FMJJDPVZ8FSC3QX62

None of the big 3 companies would grade this card even though BGS used to. I have no idea why they won't, it's a legit item. Maybe due to the rarity? But still, they are the experts and should be able too. Super frustrating that I can't get this graded.

https://i.ibb.co/YdBG4HD/20201004-203815.jpg (https://ibb.co/my57rfv)

https://i.ibb.co/6y4HKZM/20201004-203751.jpg (https://ibb.co/yN86zR9)

That's amazing, love it!

[ReggieBush22]

Any thoughts on value?

Go to Ebay and type in "michael jordan 5x7 nike" and you'll get your answers. I have a few of these but haven't checked values in many months. For these, I don't mind buying ungraded versions because these are not counterfeited at all and graded ones seem to go for a huge premium.

[thenwhatjk]

Wow, PSA pop now over 3000

Meanwhile interlake still under 200 and jewel prism still under 100

[ReggieBush22]

That's amazing, love it!

Yeah, I'm frustrated on not being able to have this encapsulated in a big 3 holder. I know I could get some serious $$$ if it was graded versus just raw. Think it would grade a 6, a 5 at worst. Just makes no sense honestly. They said they don't grade "this version" and I'm like why not? It's a legit, item that was produced by Nike. You're the experts, do the research and grade it.

[ReggieBush22]

Wow, PSA pop now over 3000

Meanwhile interlake still under 200 and jewel prism still under 100

Yeah, I have an Interlake BGS 7.5. Beautiful card and super duper rare. So much rarer than Fleer and I would guess even rarer than Star.

[sebreg]

Yeah, I'm frustrated on not being able to have this encapsulated in a big 3 holder. I know I could get some serious $$$ if it was graded versus just raw. Think it would grade a 6, a 5 at worst. Just makes no sense honestly. They said they don't grade "this version" and I'm like why not? It's a legit, item that was produced by Nike. You're the experts, do the research and grade it.

Long shot, but have you tried reaching out to Nat Turner on IG? May be worth a try. Def would be great to have it graded/authenticated, and no doubt you could get $$$ for it.

[ReggieBush22]

Long shot, but have you tried reaching out to Nat Turner on IG? May be worth a try. Def would be great to have it graded/authenticated, and no doubt you could get $$$ for it.

No, I don't even do IG, which shows my age. LOL. Maybe you can do it for me. LOL

I'm good. I know I have a legit one. Maybe I'll try a few years later and maybe they'll grade it.

[Erikthredd]

What’s everyone thought on this Nike Jordan? It’s a 5x7 and from what I heard it was only given to sneakers stores for advertising. Only one I see sold was a psa 7 for 4k.

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I started a thread about these Jordan 5x7 Nike Poster Cards here if you want a little more info about them. https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1451332

That 5x7 MJ is so much rarer than the 3x5 version from the same year.
For comparison, Total PSA pop numbers:
1985 Nike 3x5 in all grades: 3,200
1985 Nike 5x7 in all grades: 40

The 5x7’s are tough to price because they don’t actually sell very often. Some may get listed with high BIN’s but most of the time the sellers eventually just cancel their listing when they don’t get what they’re looking for for.

Also with PSA raising their prices earlier this year, you’re now looking at least $100 per 5x7 card plus S/I if you go to grade.

[strider_boi]

I started a thread about these Jordan 5x7 Nike Poster Cards here if you want a little more info about them. https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1451332

That 5x7 MJ is so much rarer than the 3x5 version from the same year.
For comparison, Total PSA pop numbers:
1985 Nike 3x5 in all grades: 3,200
1985 Nike 5x7 in all grades: 40

The 5x7’s are tough to price because they don’t actually sell very often. Some may get listed with high BIN’s but most of the time the sellers eventually just cancel their listing when they don’t get what they’re looking for for.

Also with PSA raising their prices earlier this year, you’re now looking at least $100 per 5x7 card plus S/I if you go to grade.


Thanks for the info. I plan on getting the MJ slabbed at nationals. Hope I can get a decent grade as it looks pretty good from what I see.


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[Erikthredd]

Anybody have any thoughts on the super rare 6x8 version? Bought this one off of Oscar Garcia for $475 a few years back. He's the guy who wrote this book on MJ. https://www.amazon.com/dp/087341666X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_M78FMJJDPVZ8FSC3QX62

None of the big 3 companies would grade this card even though BGS used to. I have no idea why they won't, it's a legit item. Maybe due to the rarity? But still, they are the experts and should be able too. Super frustrating that I can't get this graded.

https://i.ibb.co/YdBG4HD/20201004-203815.jpg (https://ibb.co/my57rfv)

https://i.ibb.co/6y4HKZM/20201004-203751.jpg (https://ibb.co/yN86zR9)

That is actually one of MJ’s rarest 80’s cards. There are three versions of the 6x8; one that has Air Jordan on the bottom back, one that doesn’t and one that has a facsimile autograph on front.
I’ve read that the autopen 6x8’s were given out when MJ got autograph requests and one of the non-auto versions was the same card pre-signed.
The other version was distributed one card per box of 1985 Air Jordan Sneakers. I’ve never come across any print run totals for any of the 6x8’s Jordan cards but they’re rarer than the 5x7’s which are considerably rarer than the 3x5’s.
Yours looks to be in really good condition.

[Erikthredd]

Thanks for the info. I plan on getting the MJ slabbed at nationals. Hope I can get a decent grade as it looks pretty good from what I see.


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They’re very tough to grade high due to issues with the lamination on front and back. The fronts usually have slight scuffs and scratches in the gloss and the backs sometimes has grooves(for lack of a better word) caused when the card got laminated. I subbed four Jordan’s from that series and got back a 5,6,7 & 8 which shows you how tough they are to grade high. Good luck with yours!

[ReggieBush22]

That is actually one of MJ’s rarest 80’s cards. There are three versions of the 6x8; one that has Air Jordan on the bottom back, one that doesn’t and one that has a facsimile autograph on front.
I’ve read that the autopen 6x8’s were given out when MJ got autograph requests and one of the non-auto versions was the same card pre-signed.
The other version was distributed one card per box of 1985 Air Jordan Sneakers. I’ve never come across any print run totals for any of the 6x8’s Jordan cards but they’re rarer than the 5x7’s which are considerably rarer than the 3x5’s.
Yours looks to be in really good condition.

I was told by Oscar Garcia that there were only 2 versions. One with Air Jordan on back and one without. Never knew about the facsimile auto version, you sure about that one?

I think I also heard but could be 100% wrong these were only issued in the Portland area to Nike dealers only and was NOT issued to the general public.

Yeah, I know this is super duper rare. Not too many in existence. And yes, I would say it would grade a 5-6. With big cards, like the 5x7, super tough to get high grades.

[Erikthredd]

I was told by Oscar Garcia that there were only 2 versions. One with Air Jordan on back and one without. Never knew about the facsimile auto version, you sure about that one?

I think I also heard but could be 100% wrong these were only issued in the Portland area to Nike dealers only and was NOT issued to the general public.

Yeah, I know this is super duper rare. Not too many in existence. And yes, I would say it would grade a 5-6. With big cards, like the 5x7, super tough to get high grades.

I sold an autopen version last year and have seen numerous others through the years. I own Oscar’s book and have dealt with him at least a handful of times over the past 5yrs but I’m honestly surprised he wasn’t aware of the autopen cards. I remember reading that early on Jordan had someone dealing with his fan mail and for awhile they’d send out that AP card but eventually stopped due to the amount of requests he got.

Edit: these weren’t only in Portland, I know two people on the other side of the country that got theirs with his AJ 1’s at the time. There might have been more near Portland because Nike is stationed out there and one of the printing companies they used was local as well.

[ReggieBush22]

I sold an autopen version last year and have seen numerous others through the years. I own Oscar’s book and have dealt with him at least a handful of times over the past 5yrs but I’m honestly surprised he wasn’t aware of the autopen cards. I remember reading that early on Jordan had someone dealing with his fan mail and for awhile they’d send out that AP card but eventually stopped due to the amount of requests he got.

Edit: these weren’t only in Portland, I know two people on the other side of the country that got theirs with his AJ 1’s at the time. There might have been more near Portland because Nike is stationed out there and one of the printing companies they used was local as well.

Oh cool, all helpful info, thanks

I've been keeping tabs on this card over the years on Ebay and have never seen the auto version. Is that the rarest one?

[ReggieBush22]

Also, have to ask, have you tried submitting the 6x8 version for grading? If so, what were the results?

[Erikthredd]

Also, have to ask, have you tried submitting the 6x8 version for grading? If so, what were the results?

I haven’t but I’ve seen a few over the years that were graded. IIRC I remember seeing one in a PSA slab up that was likely a one-off. I’ve also seen roughly 5-10 BGS copies land on eBay in recent years but some of those could have been the same sLab number. During the Last Dance months there were quite a few that popped up for sale.

As for previous question,I honestly don’t know which were the rarest of the bunch.
I’ve actually been curious about this and maybe you can answer this for me... I’ve only owned the AP copy that was printed using slightly thicker than poster paper which creased very easily. IIRC the card my friend had back in the day right out of the AJ 1’s box was stiff almost like a normal trading card.
What would say your card leans more to, slightly thicker poster paper or closer to a standard trading card?
This is just something I’ve wondered but I’m pretty sure I’ll never own all of them at the same time to compare the paper stock used.

[ReggieBush22]

I haven’t but I’ve seen a few over the years that were graded. IIRC I remember seeing one in a PSA slab up that was likely a one-off. I’ve also seen roughly 5-10 BGS copies land on eBay in recent years but some of those could have been the same sLab number. During the Last Dance months there were quite a few that popped up for sale.

As for previous question,I honestly don’t know which were the rarest of the bunch.
I’ve actually been curious about this and maybe you can answer this for me... I’ve only owned the AP copy that was printed using slightly thicker than poster paper which creased very easily. IIRC the card my friend had back in the day right out of the AJ 1’s box was stiff almost like a normal trading card.
What would say your card leans more to, slightly thicker poster paper or closer to a standard trading card?
This is just something I’ve wondered but I’m pretty sure I’ll never own all of them at the same time to compare the paper stock used.

Yeah, my card is much closer to a normal trading card in terms of thickness. Very thin and pretty vulnerable to bending/creasing if not careful.

[ReggieBush22]

Here's pic of the 5x7 and 6x8 side by side.

https://i.ibb.co/jvbTYHD/20210629-202252.jpg (https://ibb.co/3y47bkc)

The only 2 5x7s I have left. Bought both for $250 in 2019. These are the only 2 I like. I had the "Black and Blue" but got rid of that one cause I didn't like the pic of him just standing.

https://i.ibb.co/dJDQf4Z/20210629-202149.jpg (https://ibb.co/7NKGSth)

[ReggieBush22]

Kind of off topic but since we are talking about 1985 MJs. Here's an Interlake. Paid $867 in March 2018. Love the pic showing the Air 1s. True OG stuff.

https://i.ibb.co/0D8d1bB/20210629-202536.jpg (https://ibb.co/kHkWzC3)

[Erikthredd]

Yeah, my card is much closer to a normal trading card in terms of thickness. Very thin and pretty vulnerable to bending/creasing if not careful.

Thanks, that"s what I thought but wasn't sure. That Freeze Frame is so underrated for being a pre-86 Fleer card imo and love the Interlake, unfortunately I never grabbed one while prices were pretty reasonable. I'm a sucker for oversized early era MJ cards.

[thenwhatjk]

Kind of off topic but since we are talking about 1985 MJs. Here's an Interlake. Paid $867 in March 2018. Love the pic showing the Air 1s. True OG stuff.

https://i.ibb.co/0D8d1bB/20210629-202536.jpg (https://ibb.co/kHkWzC3)

Don’t forget the tongue too

Easily the coolest 85 Jordan imo

[shootit]

how big is the interlake card

[Erikthredd]

It’s 5x7.

[tripncards]

This card (and the market overall) has cooled a bit. I see two closed eBay PSA 10's that have a 10k variance. I wonder about the upcoming National Sports Collectors Convention and if anyone is slightly pumping these up. I'll be at the show next week and will be on the look out for any PSA 10's. With the show being in Chicago, I would hope there are some Jordan fans willing to buy & sell.

[Spacemanspif]

is this card $100k yet?

[tripncards]

is this card $100k yet?


I don't think it is. But I ended up selling mine for $20k. Not bad considering I paid $900 for it.

[KhalDrogo]

is this card $100k yet?
The better question is if sportsyard is still waiting until the fall to send everything to Goldin and cash out like he said he would.

[sportsyard]

The better question is if sportsyard is still waiting until the fall to send everything to Goldin and cash out like he said he would.

I sold most of mine, a couple left. I'm hoping to buy back in if they keep dropping, its a beautiful card and to me is like art. I enjoyed them. The MJ market will hold up better then just about anything besides Mantle, so who knows what will happen

[visualplane]

I had a bgs 9 but sold it at a loss >:(

[stockt12]

Can this be a pump and dump candidate for anyone here ?
The absolutely iconic nature of the photo and the worldwide appeal (for understanding
And history )
Will we see “ the influencers” rocket this card upwards in the near future ? (I love this card but really would be happy for it go lower (as it’s charting ) or go higher .

A similar scenario looks to be taking shape with the star limited distribution 101 (and the rest of its set ) . Because of the PSA grading / influencer marketing / limited holder push / hype that feels like one that in the short term may take a steep decline / normalisation

Just some random thoughts ..

[sportsyard]

Can this be a pump and dump candidate for anyone here ?
The absolutely iconic nature of the photo and the worldwide appeal (for understanding
And history )
Will we see “ the influencers” rocket this card upwards in the near future ? (I love this card but really would be happy for it go lower (as it’s charting ) or go higher .

A similar scenario looks to be taking shape with the star limited distribution 101 (and the rest of its set ) . Because of the PSA grading / influencer marketing / limited holder push / hype that feels like one that in the short term may take a steep decline / normalisation

Just some random thoughts ..

I love the card and the image and what it means.... and I was probably guilty of pumping it Im sure according to some based on that excitement. I sold most of mine, but still have a couple. I sold one a month ago to someone that wanted to lock it in a vault for 30 years. If it goes lower it gets more attractive. Lots of people want it.

The Nike / Jordan movie will Affleck and Matt Damon will help this card Im sure.

From what I've seen, this whole Jordan market is a pump though with a tone of shady characters. Really hard to say what will happen

[Asian62150]

Surprised this thread hasn't been poppin' and pumpin' recently.

[SupermanBrandon]

Surprised this thread hasn't been poppin' and pumpin' recently.

Why would it? The days of movie, doc, etc helping push cards is over. Especially one that doesnt actually include MJ.

[pingbling23]

Is my bgs 8.5 at $100 still a good buy?