Can someone explain to me why Donruss Net Marvel inserts so expensive?

[advan24r]

These would've been commons or comc type cards but looking at completed auctions they are going for so much?

[tmar214]

People like the way the cards look so their is a lot of demand. They were a hobby box exclusive insert with a 20 card checklist so they are relatively SP.

[BRob1]

These would've been commons or comc type cards but looking at completed auctions they are going for so much?

Are you trying to buy one?

[greg8731]

Nice design and you can only pull them if you drop a ton of money on a hobby box of Donruss. That being said if they do them again this year the value may drop a bit imo.

This is one of my favorite of the Trae Young cards I have. Bought it raw for 50 like a day before they went crazy.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50703200831_18c1f02b94_c.jpg

[mvp]

It’s what happens when Panini puts out nice looking, original designs, instead of just 1,000 parallels of varying colours.

[Italy61587]

People like to spend stupid money on junk, that's the current hobby trend.

[Vision59]

Fixed it for ya.

People like to spend stupid money on Cool junk, that's the current hobby trend.

[RBKSNIPZ]

As Gary V says, cards will be the art of the future.

[mc1]

It’s what happens when Panini puts out nice looking, original designs, instead of just 1,000 parallels of varying colours.

Eh. Not that original. The original Donruss was doing these type of sets 20 years ago.

[thor_rider08]

I like to hoard things and this set caught my eye and so did the price at the time (1-20$). I bought the whole set in press proof format, non press proof, and then tried to get 100 Lebrons... I made it to 94... and then the price just went insane.
https://photos.smugmug.com/2019-20-Lebron-PrizmOpticSelect-ETC/i-gkkGPdt/0/efed487f/M/marvellbj-M.jpg

I just checked the price of a box is 1800$... or 180 per pack.. wow
Net Marvels (or any of the inserts for that matter) fall about 3 per box so 30 per case.
They caught fire and have massive market interest and I don't see them going down anytime soon.

In 2020 nothing is common or normal... 0_o

IDC what anyone thinks. I love these and think this design kicked ass.
This is junk? Keep shoveling it into my piehole.

[drobfan8]

I like to hoard things and this set caught my eye and so did the price at the time (1-20$). I bought the whole set in press proof format, non press proof, and then tried to get 100 Lebrons... I made it to 94... and then the price just went insane.
https://photos.smugmug.com/2019-20-Lebron-PrizmOpticSelect-ETC/i-gkkGPdt/0/efed487f/M/marvellbj-M.jpg

I just checked the price of a box is 1800$... or 180 per pack.. wow
Net Marvels (or any of the inserts for that matter) fall about 3 per box so 30 per case.
They caught fire and have massive market interest and I don't see them going down anytime soon.

In 2020 nothing is common or normal... 0_o

IDC what anyone thinks. I love these and think this design kicked ass.
This is junk? Keep shoveling it into my piehole.

Great post and well played.

I think we can cancel the comment that they're "relatively SP'd" then.

[theleica]

There is a thread somewhere on here. If I am remembering correctly, this was one of Sports Card Investor's weekly picks and that is when they caught fire.

[greg8731]

I like to hoard things and this set caught my eye and so did the price at the time (1-20$). I bought the whole set in press proof format, non press proof, and then tried to get 100 Lebrons... I made it to 94... and then the price just went insane.
https://photos.smugmug.com/2019-20-Lebron-PrizmOpticSelect-ETC/i-gkkGPdt/0/efed487f/M/marvellbj-M.jpg

I just checked the price of a box is 1800$... or 180 per pack.. wow
Net Marvels (or any of the inserts for that matter) fall about 3 per box so 30 per case.
They caught fire and have massive market interest and I don't see them going down anytime soon.

In 2020 nothing is common or normal... 0_o

IDC what anyone thinks. I love these and think this design kicked ass.
This is junk? Keep shoveling it into my piehole.

I think there are just elitists on here that only appreciate cards if they're "high end" or pre Panini. And then some on here just have a negative attitude about everything. :rolleyes:

[sebreg]

Cool looking cards, I like them. Like someone mentioned, and this applies to my tastes as well, a solid standalone insert (not paralleled to death) can go a long ways even if it's not the most SP thing in the world.

[Beavers98]

All aboard, let's all join the hype train...choo choo. Fine looking cards, but yeah OP pretty crazy how much they sell for. But then again nothing is really making sense with the "hobby" now.

[Asian62150]

A cool, innovative insert that caught the public's eye and generated natural demand.

I think this is a great example of natural supply/demand taking over and shows the general health of the hobby.

[mbuch21]

The expensive ones are Press Proof Gold.
They says Press Proof on the lower left corner box.
Those are SP.
The ones with the blank box are not SP.

[sportzking]

I liked these cards when they were cheaper lol. Bought one, tried to buy more but the prices went insane. They do look nice, as far as original design I'm not too sure. Its a design that Marvel comics has been using for years.

[danimal875]

There is big core of the hobby that love the inserts of the nineties. This set as well as the inserts of Mosaic that actually have fun themes that have a little imagination will always sell well. The inserts of Prizm are dog turds. They have incredibly boring themes like "Emergent" "Dominance" and "Finalists". Kaboom and Downtown also capture the imagination. How many cards can you have that show the player dribbling over and over.

[sebreg]

There is big core of the hobby that love the inserts of the nineties. This set as well as the inserts of Mosaic that actually have fun themes that have a little imagination will always sell well. The inserts of Prizm are dog turds. They have incredibly boring themes like "Emergent" "Dominance" and "Finalists". Kaboom and Downtown also capture the imagination. How many cards can you have that show the player dribbling over and over.

Agree, 100%. Whether the prices make sense I can't say, all I know is these are the type of non-paralleled inserts with some appealing design aspects that I most enjoy.

[kobebeast2020]

People like comics

[Diver757]

People like comics

This is exactly why they are appealing, and also why I bought the Luka Marvel. Fun different card with a bit of a comic theme.

[kingofsnake]

Things that Net Marvels have in common with non-numbered Prizm cards:

1. They look appealing (to many, if not to all)
2. They are not particularly scarce
3. They have been the subject of extraordinary price manipulation, pump and dump, etc...

Prices remain high as those that are now holding are not eager to lose money.

[Bob824]

I like to hoard things and this set caught my eye and so did the price at the time (1-20$). I bought the whole set in press proof format, non press proof, and then tried to get 100 Lebrons... I made it to 94... and then the price just went insane.
https://photos.smugmug.com/2019-20-Lebron-PrizmOpticSelect-ETC/i-gkkGPdt/0/efed487f/M/marvellbj-M.jpg

I just checked the price of a box is 1800$... or 180 per pack.. wow
Net Marvels (or any of the inserts for that matter) fall about 3 per box so 30 per case.
They caught fire and have massive market interest and I don't see them going down anytime soon.

In 2020 nothing is common or normal... 0_o

IDC what anyone thinks. I love these and think this design kicked ass.
This is junk? Keep shoveling it into my piehole.

I don't even collect modern cards, but you did very well to get a lot of these.

The design is NOT meant to be original, it is clearly meant to evoke nostalgia in all of us who liked/read comics, and that is why it works.

The Noir Sneaker Spotlight cards, while clearly at a different price point, is another example of a great idea by Panini that has appeal outside the mainstream basketball card market. Those also command a premium over other Noir cards that have similar pack odds.

[gomiamigo]

$1-20 for these sounds about right. I bought like 2.

[kevbojones]

They were cheap once upon a time.

I grabbed both a Zion Marvels and his base Donruss rookie for $20 way back when.

Have since sold the Marvels Zion

Check out the cool Prestige "Heroes" cards for football. Very similar to Marvels and foiled too

[pejc300]

I don't think there is an insert set in the history of cards that are 1:8 that have held this kind of value. There are billions of 90's inserts with odds of 1:8 or 1:16 or even 1:24 or 1:36 that don't hold this kind of value. I suspect these Marvels will be a fun story to tell 10 years from now (ie. "remember when people were paying...")

[jw8]

I like to hoard things and this set caught my eye and so did the price at the time (1-20$). I bought the whole set in press proof format, non press proof, and then tried to get 100 Lebrons... I made it to 94... and then the price just went insane.
https://photos.smugmug.com/2019-20-Lebron-PrizmOpticSelect-ETC/i-gkkGPdt/0/efed487f/M/marvellbj-M.jpg

I just checked the price of a box is 1800$... or 180 per pack.. wow
Net Marvels (or any of the inserts for that matter) fall about 3 per box so 30 per case.
They caught fire and have massive market interest and I don't see them going down anytime soon.

In 2020 nothing is common or normal... 0_o

IDC what anyone thinks. I love these and think this design kicked ass.
This is junk? Keep shoveling it into my piehole.

you and mr-chow on IG should connect

[tmar214]

Great post and well played.

I think we can cancel the comment that they're "relatively SP'd" then.

Donruss had 2000-2200 hobby cases made. The players fall 1.5 per case on average. So 3k-3300 print run per. In todays day and age for a standalone card with limited parallels i'd consider that relatively SP.

[KhalDrogo]

Donruss had 2000-2200 hobby cases made
Based on what?

[GeechQuest]

Based on what?

The number of #'d parallels hit per case divided by the number of total parallels available to pull.

[thor_rider08]

you and mr-chow on IG should connect

I am _mr_ch0w_ or are you being facetious:D

As far as the pricing goes its 18k a case now which is kind of crazy and this case should yield on average 30 Net Marvels.
The other NM thread we discussed the amount of PP possible but they must be locked up or still in sealed wax bc not many exist.. Either that or we have the math wrong.

PSA POP
NM-9s-188, 10s-198, total-399
NM PP- 9s-10, 10s-19 total-30

BGS POP
NM 9s-41 9.5s-132 10s-0 Total POP 180
NM PP 9s-6 9.5s-11 10s-0 Total POP 18


What is a high pop anymore? People say anything over 10 or 20 is high but in 2020 nope!

Lebron Prizm base has a pop of 10,059 with 5600 psa 10s.
Lebron Prizm Silver has 1790 PSA 10s..

Nothing shocks me anymore :coffee:

Until the wax prices come down I don't expect more supply to appear.
When BKB ended and FB started these dropped a decent bit and have climbed back up so who knows?

[advan24r]

Are you trying to buy one?

Nope, just caught my eye after looking at some of the ones I have and they were selling for prices I wouldn't imagine. I had Bradley Beal, Ben Simmons, RJ Barrett just to name a few that I posted on ebay. Now that I know they are expensive, I also have the zion, lebron, and a press proof rj barrett that I might now take the time to get graded.