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oplum29
01-31-2022, 01:41 AM
our 2021 season has ended, and i'm over the heartache.

what a run it was. we battled injuries galore, we found playmakers, our offensive guys stayed pretty healthy most of the season, and we made a successful transition from one defensive coordinator to the next.

i really thought we were going to the Super Bowl. the way the team came together reminded me so much of a combination of the NY Giants in 2007 with the defense, and 2011 with Deebo playing the Victor Cruz role.

God Bless Deebo....man what a football player. we don't get this far without his spirit, honestly. he carried this team. i hate seeing him fall short of a Super Bowl, especially when nothing is guaranteed.

that's life i guess, it can really suck sometimes.

but we're on to 2022.

this team is built to win right now. with a tweak here and there, we should be right back in contention next season.

one of the things i remember from the last time we won the Super Bowl, many moons ago, i remember after the Dallas loss in the NFC Title Game, how EddieD said "this will never happen again", and then proceeded to go out and bring in a number of vets who helped us get over Dallas and win the Super Bowl. also, a nice draft rounded out the team that kept us in contention for the next 5 seasons.

i don't think we make moves like that, but it hurts to see what the Rams did, and how it paid off, and the moves we didn't make (passing on Brady and Stafford), and how it didn't pay off.

we cannot waste the prime years of Kittle, Bosa, Aiyuk, Deebo, Warner, Greenlaw, Armstead, and Jimmie Ward...the time is now!

and since we've never really had an official 49ers thread, i'll start this one for 49er fans to vent/talk.

Go Niners!!!!

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Archangel1775
01-31-2022, 01:48 AM
It's Trey Lance's time. I'm excited to see what he can do.

SleeperCards
01-31-2022, 01:55 AM
How long until you're calling them trash and wishing to be a Lions fan? Week 6?

FBallHobbies
01-31-2022, 05:09 AM
Jimmy G is as good as gone. Nobody in their right minds would trade for him with the 3 game playoff performance he had, so they will cut him (hopefully) $24 mill saved in the books

Compton was not looking good on the right side of the line since McGlinchey went down earlier in the season so I am hoping San Fran address that. Terron Armstead could fix that BUT he will command a ton of money which Lynch does not want to do.

Deebo is coming on the final year of his rookie contract. Lock him up immediately. Do not wait for him to test the open market.

Move on from Dee Ford. 9.5 sacks in 3 years since trading for him. My goodness he cannot stay on the field. 1 good year should remind GM's to not pay top 5 money for that. He also prevented Mahomes from making the SB that year lining up offsides so theres that for him


Matheiu is a FA as well, and certainly an upgrade over Tartt at the S position. Do I want it to happen, hell yes. Is it realistic, probably not. KC loves him and they will do what they need to and re-sign him

Armstead needs to get that contract restructured. I get he has shown up in the playoffs, but what happens if San Fran doesnt make the playoffs/ Getting paid all that money for nothing

My ideal signings that I would like to team to have are:

Orlando Brown Jr - (McGlinchey is back on a 5th year team option and think he should move to Guard. Also if Orlando is okay with playing RT instead of LT)

Chances: .00001/10 - Orlando will command big money this offseason and get it too. A lot of teams need a LT and will guess the Bengals make a push to sign him and lock up Bates long term. They have money to spend and need to protect Burrow

Tyrann Matheiu - Still a top safety in the NFL and 99.99% sure he would have made the INT that Tartt dropped in the 4th quarter to potentially put the game away. Chiefs have about $14 mill in cap space and cannot sign everyone

Chances: 5/10

Dalton Schultz - Dallas is well over the cap and have too much money invested in their offense which sputtered in the Wild Card game. Jerry needs to trim some money and resigning Dalton will not be a priority for them. It also gives Kittle some help as both are great in the passing game and can help utilize 2 TE sets. I like Gesicki more but Miami has $70 mill in cap space and will for sure resign him

Chances: 6/10

Curious to see how FA and the draft pans out. Do not have a pick on Day 1. Hopefully Kinlaw and McGlinchey come back better than ever for 2022.

sethc1020
01-31-2022, 06:10 AM
Now the question becomes, is Trey Lance the answer? If they are not sold thats a 10000% yes they should make a strong push for Aaron Rodgers (as much as I hate to say it). He grew up in the bay area and always wanted to play there so its a perfect fit for both sides.

FBallHobbies
01-31-2022, 06:13 AM
Now the question becomes, is Trey Lance the answer? If they are not sold thats a 10000% yes they should make a strong push for Aaron Rodgers (as much as I hate to say it). He grew up in the bay area and always wanted to play there so its a perfect fit for both sides.

Money is the biggest issue on that end.

Green Bay is not going to just cut Rodgers and not get anything in return. He has a $46 mill cap hit. Denver is the team willing to leave it all on the table and only make the move for him

Athey49
01-31-2022, 07:46 AM
What a tough way to end it. This is why I was so against that blockbuster trade for Lance last year..if we're built to win, why do we have an unproven QB starting? I'd love for another QB to start next year and let Lance sit one more year.

I don't remember the last time I enjoyed watching a player as much as I did Deebo this year

Damn you Tarrt! What a back breaker that play was

Athey49
01-31-2022, 07:47 AM
Money is the biggest issue on that end.

Green Bay is not going to just cut Rodgers and not get anything in return. He has a $46 mill cap hit. Denver is the team willing to leave it all on the table and only make the move for him

And after the Lance trade, we don't have many valuable picks to trade

2010GBPackers
01-31-2022, 08:14 AM
Welcome to the club, San Fran! Both of our franchises tried to get cute with "playing for now and playing for the future" at the same time. Doesn't work. For the rest of you NFL fans, you better hope your team doesn't waste a 1st round pick on an unproven QB (or more in San Fran's case) when the rest of your team is in win-now mode. Man, the 49er's roster was/is stacked and they traded away two 1sts and a 3rd - JUST TO MOVE UP TO 3 AND TAKE LANCE!!!!!

That's an epic fail.

I'm not even sure what he'd have to do to call it even, but it's a lot.

oplum29
01-31-2022, 08:14 PM
How long until you're calling them trash and wishing to be a Lions fan? Week 6?

get over it dude. let it go.

:)!

oplum29
01-31-2022, 08:26 PM
What a tough way to end it. This is why I was so against that blockbuster trade for Lance last year..if we're built to win, why do we have an unproven QB starting? I'd love for another QB to start next year and let Lance sit one more year.

I don't remember the last time I enjoyed watching a player as much as I did Deebo this year

Damn you Tarrt! What a back breaker that play was

i agree. i really do like Trey Lance, and i'm excited to see what he can do, but honestly, i think we overpaid for him.

time will tell, who knows right? i know people were in shock when KC made that huge jump up to get Mahomes back in 2017, passing on Deshaun Watson in the process.

but i like Trey, we'll see how it works out. in the meantime, honestly, in a fantasy world, we get Rodgers or Brady to come over for a year and sub in Lance a game here and there, but that's all a pipe dream.

as for free agents, i think we have 27....holy moly...27!

i think we let the following players walk:

Verrett
Mostert
Josh Norman
Dwelley
Sanu
Tartt
Compton
Hurst
Sherfield
Richie James

we've got to keep:
Laken Tomlinson
DJ Jones
Arden Key
Jordan Willis
Jauan Williams

Maybe:
K'Waun Williams
Brunskill
Dontae Johnson
Jeff Wilson
Kevin Givens

and yes please, get rid of Dee Ford and let Jimmy go also.

need to address the right side of the o-line, linebacker depth, and for the love of God, the secondary please.

shootit
02-01-2022, 01:31 AM
so this is what depression feels like

FBallHobbies
02-01-2022, 02:33 AM
so this is what depression feels like

You must be looking for the Detroit Lions thread

oplum29
02-02-2022, 12:25 AM
i will admit that i'm a bit torn over the QB situation right now.

i'm honestly excited to see what Trey Lance can do, but also torn about letting JimmyG go, even though it's the right thing to do.

i look at what teams in the past have done with QBs who couldn't get them over the hump, and they always seemed to upgrade the entire team more than the QB spot, especially if they were close.

there is a fear that Lance isn't an upgrade over JimmyG, and it's going to cost us the prime years of Kittle, Deebo, Warner, and Bosa to name a few. meanwhile, going for a guy like Aaron Rodgers who if somehow we could get, would be our version of going from Goff to Stafford.

that uncertainty is scary for a team so close to winning a Super Bowl. People drool over the Chiefs, but the 49ers are right there too, Garoppolo's health was the x-factor in those couple of lost seasons.

i was reading a bunch of comments on youtube today after watching Jimmy's final press conference as a 49er, and that seemed to be the sentiment- thank you Jimmy, and i hope we don't make a mistake.

i hope Kyle and Lynch know what they are doing, because we've got the team to win it all. this isn't a fluke team, a one year wonder.

gocubs09
02-02-2022, 12:59 AM
How long until you're calling them trash and wishing to be a Lions fan? Week 6?

My guess is week 4

duwal
02-02-2022, 05:23 AM
It's Trey Lance's time. I'm excited to see what he can do.

It's Trey Lance's time, they'll go down to winning 6 or 7 games and possibly last in the division

FBallHobbies
02-02-2022, 06:58 AM
i will admit that i'm a bit torn over the QB situation right now.

i'm honestly excited to see what Trey Lance can do, but also torn about letting JimmyG go, even though it's the right thing to do.

i look at what teams in the past have done with QBs who couldn't get them over the hump, and they always seemed to upgrade the entire team more than the QB spot, especially if they were close.

there is a fear that Lance isn't an upgrade over JimmyG, and it's going to cost us the prime years of Kittle, Deebo, Warner, and Bosa to name a few. meanwhile, going for a guy like Aaron Rodgers who if somehow we could get, would be our version of going from Goff to Stafford.

that uncertainty is scary for a team so close to winning a Super Bowl. People drool over the Chiefs, but the 49ers are right there too, Garoppolo's health was the x-factor in those couple of lost seasons.

i was reading a bunch of comments on youtube today after watching Jimmy's final press conference as a 49er, and that seemed to be the sentiment- thank you Jimmy, and i hope we don't make a mistake.

i hope Kyle and Lynch know what they are doing, because we've got the team to win it all. this isn't a fluke team, a one year wonder.


The combination of Garoppolo/Shanahan is costing this team their prime years

Shanahan cannot hold a lead to save his life

Go as far back to the 2016 SB, called for a pass play on 3rd down just to get sacked and go out of field goal range

2019 SB. 10 point lead

2021 NFCCG 10 point lead

Both 10 point leads going into the 4th quarter. Hell, had a 13 point lead on Dallas in the Wild Card game and a bad, incomplete throw from Jimmy where Kittle fumbled would have given Dallas great field position

I feel like Shanahan needs to go. He has become to predictable. The 3rd and 1 on Sunday when Trent Williams went in motion to give the quick handoff to Juszczyk was read a mile away

This team needs to make a push for Deshaun Watson or Rodgers.

oplum29
02-02-2022, 09:04 AM
This team needs to make a push for Deshaun Watson or Rodgers.

they did didn't they? But Houston wanted a king's ransom and GB hung up the phone.

i still think, if it's possible, we should go the nuclear route, and try to land Rodgers. there's no rush for Trey Lance.

this is a Super Bowl team right now, and we're going to be in dogfights with the Rams and Cards next year alone. forget the NFC, our own division is stacked.

i'm just afraid Lance is going to need those growing pains, and we'll take a step back. but i also look at the gutsy call that KC made, going from a contender who was a QB away from a Super Bowl, and finally letting go of Alex Smith and running with Mahomes.

it's got to give us some confidence going into next season right?

oplum29
02-02-2022, 09:12 AM
My guess is week 4

you all can say what you want, but from that rant onward, the 49ers went 10-4, and beat the Rams in week 18, down 17-0, and then beat the #3 ranked Cowboys, and #1 ranked Packers.

if it wasn't for these 49ers beating GB, the Packers, not the Rams, would have been in the Super Bowl, and that's the truth. the 49ers were to the Packers this year, what the Jaguars were to the Broncos back in 1996. and i believe i mentioned that in the other thread too.

:)!

FBallHobbies
02-02-2022, 09:22 AM
they did didn't they? But Houston wanted a king's ransom and GB hung up the phone.

i still think, if it's possible, we should go the nuclear route, and try to land Rodgers. there's no rush for Trey Lance.

this is a Super Bowl team right now, and we're going to be in dogfights with the Rams and Cards next year alone. forget the NFC, our own division is stacked.

i'm just afraid Lance is going to need those growing pains, and we'll take a step back. but i also look at the gutsy call that KC made, going from a contender who was a QB away from a Super Bowl, and finally letting go of Alex Smith and running with Mahomes.

it's got to give us some confidence going into next season right?


I think the cardinals fall this year
They are over the cap, Chandler Jones is a FA. Watt cannot stay healthy. Kyler is a RW3....great 1st half of season, falls apart second half. Kingsbury has end of season collapses dating back to TTU

I feel like Lance needs 1 more year on the bench.

Like you said, the Rams aren't going anywhere and the NFC West runs through them for the foreseeable future

roro17
02-02-2022, 09:26 AM
Rodgers will end up there and Lance will back him up for a year.

gocubs09
02-02-2022, 10:07 AM
you all can say what you want, but from that rant onward, the 49ers went 10-4, and beat the Rams in week 18, down 17-0, and then beat the #3 ranked Cowboys, and #1 ranked Packers.

if it wasn't for these 49ers beating GB, the Packers, not the Rams, would have been in the Super Bowl, and that's the truth. the 49ers were to the Packers this year, what the Jaguars were to the Broncos back in 1996. and i believe i mentioned that in the other thread too.

:)!

if it wasn't for these 49ers choking to Rams, the 49ers, not the Rams, would have been in the Super Bowl, and that's the truth. the 49ers were to the 49ers this year, what the 49ers were in 2019, 2013, 2012, 2011.

oplum29
02-02-2022, 12:52 PM
Rodgers will end up there and Lance will back him up for a year.

i would love to see that happen. that would be one of the best things to happen to the team, and Lance too.

learn from one of the best. there's no rush with Lance, honestly there isn't.

oplum29
02-05-2022, 03:30 AM
i read somewhere today that the 49ers at best, could get a 2nd round pick for JimmyG.

i wonder if that's a possibility or if a couple of thirds are more realistic.

i believe the 49ers got two 2's in the Alex Smith trade.

FBallHobbies
02-05-2022, 03:44 AM
i read somewhere today that the 49ers at best, could get a 2nd round pick for JimmyG.

i wonder if that's a possibility or if a couple of thirds are more realistic.

i believe the 49ers got two 2's in the Alex Smith trade.

Correct

Original deal was a 2nd and a conditional pick that went from a 3rd to a 2nd

What would really help the 49ers if by trading Jimmy G, the team doesn't have to pay any money towards his salary

The team needs as much cap space as possible in order to pull Rodgers

Archangel1775
02-05-2022, 04:18 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing Aaron Rodgers out in the Bay Area for a year or two. I would think that would depend on who Rodgers feels is the greatest enemy, his current team or the Niners, his kryptonite. I agree that it wouldn't hurt Trey Lance to sit behind A-Rod. Tennessee or SF are the best routes to the Super Bowl for him.

FBallHobbies
02-05-2022, 04:49 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing Aaron Rodgers out in the Bay Area for a year or two. I would think that would depend on who Rodgers feels is the greatest enemy, his current team or the Niners, his kryptonite. I agree that it wouldn't hurt Trey Lance to sit behind A-Rod. Tennessee or SF are the best routes to the Super Bowl for him.

I'm curios on if the Titans could pull that off.

1. Already $7mil over the cap for 2022
2. Tannehill has a $38 mill cap hit, and would result in $57 mill in dead cap for a pre June 1 cut, and $38 mill dead cap hit afer June 1

The Titans would have to find a team to trade for him after June 1. In that case, the team would save $29 mill in cap and only have a $9 mil dead cap hit

The thing that worries me is San Fran only has 34 players under contract for 2022 so far. Titans have 51 so they could pull a trade to get rid of Tannehill and still be in a good spot

oplum29
02-05-2022, 01:49 PM
yeah we've got a lot of free agents of our own to take care of, but we've also got some house cleaning to do, starting with Jimmy and including guys like Dee Ford and probably Mostert.

i think because of how good this team is right now, we can bring a lot of them back on 1-year deals again, in hopes of winning it all next season.

i know Trey expects to start next season, but if somehow this team (even if it isn't a reality) was able to get Rodgers, man that would be epic. and they could even do something similar to what the 49ers did in 88' with Joe and Steve, and rest Rodgers a game here or there.

49erRCCollector
02-05-2022, 02:49 PM
I'm surprisingly optimistic headed into next season.

- I hope Jimmy lands with the Steelers. Great culture, winning tradition and Great D/Run game combo is absolutely where he needs to be.

- I think the Niners have made themselves a place that is known to be player-friendly. Sherman, Jimmy both left but are still very much fans of what SF is all about. I don't know the ins and outs of Dee Ford's deal, cap-wise but I imagine they will try to handle it gracefully. But... man can't stay on the field. He can't.

- A productive EDGE to pair with Bosa would be amazing. TWO guys coming off the edge would be deadly. That's what Dee was supposed to be.

- Contracts for Deebo, Bosa and Laken Tomlinson should be a priority in that order.

- I'm VERY hopeful that some of the players that we're drafted are going to pan out moving forward. Jaylon Moore, Aaron Banks, Hugfanga. Can they play?

- I know the Niners have a thin draft so they better hit homers and make them count. And they are shopping in the middle of the draft, and that where the Niners will need players.

- Greenlaw and Al-Shaair are, together, one healthy LB. Would love someone more consistent with Fred.

The secondary has been the Niners Achilles' heel since 2019. I like Ward's versatility and athleticism, though I'd like more interceptions. Tartt may have played his last game for SF. Ambry Thomas looks ready to make the jump and Moseley is solid, but help and depth would be great.

I love the Anthony Lynn hire.

Trey Lance? I just don't know. Big arm, gets praise for work habits. Looked RAW as all get out in the games he played. Is he the guy or do the Niners do something aggressive this off season?

This team was CLOSE. If they had beat the Rams I liked them against the Bengals.

oplum29
02-05-2022, 04:52 PM
I'm surprisingly optimistic headed into next season.

- I hope Jimmy lands with the Steelers. Great culture, winning tradition and Great D/Run game combo is absolutely where he needs to be.

- I think the Niners have made themselves a place that is known to be player-friendly. Sherman, Jimmy both left but are still very much fans of what SF is all about. I don't know the ins and outs of Dee Ford's deal, cap-wise but I imagine they will try to handle it gracefully. But... man can't stay on the field. He can't.

- A productive EDGE to pair with Bosa would be amazing. TWO guys coming off the edge would be deadly. That's what Dee was supposed to be.

- Contracts for Deebo, Bosa and Laken Tomlinson should be a priority in that order.

- I'm VERY hopeful that some of the players that we're drafted are going to pan out moving forward. Jaylon Moore, Aaron Banks, Hugfanga. Can they play?

- I know the Niners have a thin draft so they better hit homers and make them count. And they are shopping in the middle of the draft, and that where the Niners will need players.

- Greenlaw and Al-Shaair are, together, one healthy LB. Would love someone more consistent with Fred.

The secondary has been the Niners Achilles' heel since 2019. I like Ward's versatility and athleticism, though I'd like more interceptions. Tartt may have played his last game for SF. Ambry Thomas looks ready to make the jump and Moseley is solid, but help and depth would be great.

I love the Anthony Lynn hire.

Trey Lance? I just don't know. Big arm, gets praise for work habits. Looked RAW as all get out in the games he played. Is he the guy or do the Niners do something aggressive this off season?

This team was CLOSE. If they had beat the Rams I liked them against the Bengals.

great points all around.

- our DBs need an upgrade, big time. for all the goodwill that Ambry THomas had bought in the last couple of weeks, he reverted back to "picked on rookie" in the NFC Title game. he was terrible. but he's just a rookie, so it's okay.

- agree on Tartt, he's done. he was terrible in the NFC Title game as well, cost us with that dropped INT and then got over late to Cupp on that 1st TD.

- our LB is great, but we need depth because after Al-Shair, Greenlaw, and Warner, we're in trouble

- the right side of the line needs to be fixed. i do like Brunskill, but Compton is terrible.

- another pass rusher would be huge to counter Bosa, because teams all season long, started chipping Bosa with a TE or RB, and a Wide 9 turned into a Wide 11 at times.

- fix the running game. Elijah Mitchell was everything, and after that, we were in trouble. if Sermon isn't the guy, then get rid of him, let Wilson go, let Mostert go, and go fix the running game. Marlon Mack, James White, Boston Scott, are all UFA.

- above everything, the QB will be the biggest question mark. if we're running with Lance, then we need to bring in a solid veteran backup who can fit the cap, maybe Colt McCoy or Trubisky. Dalton would be awesome, but he might cost too much as a backup.

FBallHobbies
02-05-2022, 05:01 PM
Would love it of San Fran snagged Chandler Jones for a year to go opposite Bosa.

Maybe Armstead would restructure to help make that happen

hermanotarjeta
02-05-2022, 07:39 PM
By the time Lance figures it out, the current peak niners will be past their primes.

oplum29
02-06-2022, 03:50 AM
By the time Lance figures it out, the current peak niners will be past their primes.

whose primes? most of their studs are under 30 if i'm not mistaken.

plus, Lance isn't a rookie, he played sparingly here and there, started two games, and sat and learned from Garoppolo, much in the same way Mahomes sat and started one game while learning from Alex Smith.

gmoney000
02-06-2022, 05:12 PM
By the time Lance figures it out, the current peak niners will be past their primes.

I’ll buy your Trey Lance cards..

Athey49
02-06-2022, 06:55 PM
McDaniels gone to Miami..2 more 3rd round compensatory picks coming our way.

oplum29
02-07-2022, 12:12 AM
McDaniels gone to Miami..2 more 3rd round compensatory picks coming our way.

yup! hate to see McDaniels go, but it was going to happen. we've now lost several coordinators in the last two years, man that's rough. thank goodness DeMeco Ryans stayed.

Athey49
02-07-2022, 06:08 AM
yup! hate to see McDaniels go, but it was going to happen. we've now lost several coordinators in the last two years, man that's rough. thank goodness DeMeco Ryans stayed.

Now if we get a 2nd for Jimmy like I'm hearing, our depleted draft now looks all right..two 2nd rounders, three 3rd rounders

FBallHobbies
02-07-2022, 07:17 AM
Now if we get a 2nd for Jimmy like I'm hearing, our depleted draft now looks all right..two 2nd rounders, three 3rd rounders

The McDaniels departure gave a 3rd for 2022 and 2023.

Also, one of the 3rds went to Miami for the trade last year.

Not sure which pick though

packman80
02-07-2022, 11:09 AM
Stop with the crack smoking idea Rodgers is going to SF. It's never happening. Rodgers is not going to SF just for 1 or 2 years. He gets traded he is going ot want a new 4-5 year contract that pays him top money. Also you are not paying the price you did to get Lance to trade for Rodgers. Plus you don't have the picks to get Rodgers. The OP foolishly thinks Rodgers won't get a 1st but thinks Jimmy G can get a 2nd? If Rodgers can't get a 1st it's laughable to think Jimmy could get a 2nd or 3rd. 49ers fans have to admit Lance is going to start in 2022 for them. As a Packer fan I think Rodgers is likely to be traded but they while they won't get multiple 1st and 2nd round picks like some think he still will likely bring back a 1st 3rd and a starting calibur player. Plus Rodgers just sold his home in CA and is building a new home in TN. Likely wants to get out of the tax hellhole CA is.

oplum29
02-08-2022, 01:56 AM
The OP foolishly thinks Rodgers won't get a 1st but thinks Jimmy G can get a 2nd? If Rodgers can't get a 1st it's laughable to think Jimmy could get a 2nd or 3rd. 49ers fans have to admit Lance is going to start in 2022 for them. As a Packer fan I think Rodgers is likely to be traded but they while they won't get multiple 1st and 2nd round picks like some think he still will likely bring back a 1st 3rd and a starting calibur player. Plus Rodgers just sold his home in CA and is building a new home in TN. Likely wants to get out of the tax hellhole CA is.

i doubt a team is giving a 1st round pick for a 38 year old QB, but i could be wrong i guess.

Jimmy should fetch a couple of 2's at best, if you follow the history that that's what Alex Smith got for SF when he was traded to KC.

i said in my other thread, that JimmyG reminded me of Alex Smith, so it makes sense to give a couple of 2's.

say what you want about Jimmy, but like Alex, the dude wins a lot of games, and he's only 30, not 38.

Archangel1775
02-08-2022, 02:56 AM
Damn, some hurt feelings in this thread. It's ok, this is all make believe until something actually happens. Breath

oplum29
02-13-2022, 04:09 AM
Trey Lance has been making the media rounds during Super Bowl week...i'm excited about his potential.

still think we need to add a solid vet to backup Trey if the plan is to run with him, which it appears to be.

oplum29
02-14-2022, 01:16 AM
this Super Bowl has to fire up the 49ers for next season, because had they beaten the Rams, the 49ers are winning the Super Bowl tonight.

they are so close, it's right there. just a fix here and there and hoping that Trey Lance lives up to his potential.

also, if i'm the NFL...i'm already drooling at a possible 49ers-Rams Week 1 Thursday Night banner drop game. just imagine the ratings for that game, my goodness.

i really hope they don't give us Rams-Cards or something like that.

https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/fry_melting.gif

FBallHobbies
02-14-2022, 02:42 AM
Arz is in an interesting situation with tension with Kyler

Rumors going about Brady coming to the bay for 1 year. Hell, even Joe Montana said Trey needs to sit another year

Tartt is a FA so if San Fran pulls off getting another QB, how much cap will be left to fill the other holes

Archangel1775
02-14-2022, 03:50 AM
Arz is in an interesting situation with tension with Kyler

Rumors going about Brady coming to the bay for 1 year. Hell, even Joe Montana said Trey needs to sit another year

Tartt is a FA so if San Fran pulls off getting another QB, how much cap will be left to fill the other holes

Trey didn't play much in college, only 1 full season. I can see him sitting again especially if big FA's or trades are available. The only Free Agent QB that I see as a positive pickup that Trey can learn from that is also starter material, is Teddy Bridgewater.

Otherwise, with QB's that want to leave their current teams, Aaron Rodgers and maybe, I stress maybe, Derek Carr would contribute more in the passing attack than Jimmy G.

I'm not sure what's happening with Arizona. I figured they were set on their coach and QB the next 5 years. Dysfunction is ok with a division rival though. I dont see Murray leaving AZ or AZ allowing it, especially for a division rival.

oplum29
02-15-2022, 08:46 PM
Trey didn't play much in college, only 1 full season. I can see him sitting again especially if big FA's or trades are available. The only Free Agent QB that I see as a positive pickup that Trey can learn from that is also starter material, is Teddy Bridgewater.

please no, no no no.

i'd rather go back to Jimmy for one more year than to get Bridgewater.

Archangel1775
02-16-2022, 03:29 AM
please no, no no no.

i'd rather go back to Jimmy for one more year than to get Bridgewater.

I get it and I wouldn't be happy either especially if a better QB came up in a trade opportunity but I don't see another FA QB that would be both beneficial for Trey's growth while also being able to put up starting numbers that are at least equal to what JimmyG provided. Ultimately it comes down to contract

Jimmy G: $26.9 million 2022 salary cap hit
TeddyB: $4.2 million (Probably take $5-7 million to sign him)

Otherwise, what FA QB is out there that would actually be helpful? Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jameis Winston, Cam Newton or Jacoby Brissett?

oplum29
02-19-2022, 12:42 PM
I get it and I wouldn't be happy either especially if a better QB came up in a trade opportunity but I don't see another FA QB that would be both beneficial for Trey's growth while also being able to put up starting numbers that are at least equal to what JimmyG provided. Ultimately it comes down to contract

Jimmy G: $26.9 million 2022 salary cap hit
TeddyB: $4.2 million (Probably take $5-7 million to sign him)

Otherwise, what FA QB is out there that would actually be helpful? Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jameis Winston, Cam Newton or Jacoby Brissett?

as a backup, okay i get you. i wouldn't mind Teddy Two Gloves. idk why, but i guess i read it wrong the first time.

oplum29
02-19-2022, 12:46 PM
did you all see some of these throws from Trey in practice?

some of them were straight Mahomes-like throws, my goodness. that first one was pretty awesome, and now i'm starting to see why there was both A) such a high buzz on Lance (aside from his studying of the game) and B) why the 49ers felt it necessary to make the move to 3 to get him.

i've heard things like generational talent regarding Lance, idk about that just yet, i think we should temper our expectations, but my gosh, if this kid develops like everybody wants him too, just picture what Josh Allen from Buffalo would be doing with this offense and these weapons...my goodness

we're hoping to do a KC and go from Alex Smith to Mahomes, or in our case, from Garoppolo to Lance. i hope it works out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Ldq70yYsc

Archangel1775
03-10-2022, 08:06 PM
Seeing Mack sign with the chargers to pair with Bosa, I thought that the Niners should sign Clowney to pair with the younger Bosa. His contract was only $7.4 million in 2021 and he is an asset against the run.

49ersSF
03-10-2022, 10:47 PM
Would rather see Bobby Wagner follow Richard Sherman's steps.

oplum29
03-10-2022, 11:36 PM
image a LB core with Wagner, Warner, Greenlaw, and Al-Shazir.....

yozers....

really hope the 49ers realize how close they are to winning a Super Bowl and go out and do what they have to do like the Bucs did two years ago and the Rams did last season.

be it getting Brady or signing some of these dudes to 1-year deals, idc, but we cannot go the way of the Harbaugh 49ers and always wonder how we never won a title.

i still wish Jimmy had worked out and he would have gotten his respect in SF, that's always going to eat at me.

libertypro86
03-12-2022, 04:32 PM
Dalton Schultz - Dallas is well over the cap and have too much money invested in their offense which sputtered in the Wild Card game. Jerry needs to trim some money and resigning Dalton will not be a priority for them. It also gives Kittle some help as both are great in the passing game and can help utilize 2 TE sets. I like Gesicki more but Miami has $70 mill in cap space and will for sure resign him

Chances: 6/10



Does anything change with Dalton Schultz now that Amari has gone to Cleveland?

oplum29
03-13-2022, 03:04 PM
so many trade rumors and free agent signing rumors for the 49ers, but yeah, probably none of it is happening.

i'm still torn about JimmyG haha i love the dude, but we also want to win a SB dammit

oplum29
03-13-2022, 06:42 PM
so Brady to the 49ers is pretty much dead...it's Trey Lance officially, no more rumors or garbage like that.

no Rodgers, no Brady, no Jimmy, this is Trey Lance's football team....LET'S GO!!!!

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/a12swEIzfjYuZnzqS9XofHUftCY=/0x0:5184x3456/1200x800/filters:focal(2141x1012:2969x1840)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/70456946/1366919339.0.jpg

Archangel1775
03-13-2022, 07:35 PM
Who knows, maybe something crazy will happen. If Gronk resigns with TB, it's officially over.

rms13
03-14-2022, 12:40 PM
so Brady to the 49ers is pretty much dead...it's Trey Lance officially, no more rumors or garbage like that.

no Rodgers, no Brady, no Jimmy, this is Trey Lance's football team....LET'S GO!!!!

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/a12swEIzfjYuZnzqS9XofHUftCY=/0x0:5184x3456/1200x800/filters:focal(2141x1012:2969x1840)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/70456946/1366919339.0.jpg


Is it dead? It seems like Jimmy is all but gone. So the 49ers as a potential Super Bowl team are just planning on handing the reigns to Lance next year? I still think Brady ends up in SF just because I’ve heard enough people that know more than me saying it was going to happen since Brady announced his retirement.

49erRCCollector
03-14-2022, 01:25 PM
Laken Tomlinson signed w/ Jets, 3 years $40 mil.

FBallHobbies
03-14-2022, 02:40 PM
Does anything change with Dalton Schultz now that Amari has gone to Cleveland?

I feel like chances are up now for Dalton to come to the Bay

Dallas paid Gallup and have Wilson as their #3. They will draft another TE if need be

oplum29
03-14-2022, 03:22 PM
Is it dead? It seems like Jimmy is all but gone. So the 49ers as a potential Super Bowl team are just planning on handing the reigns to Lance next year? I still think Brady ends up in SF just because I’ve heard enough people that know more than me saying it was going to happen since Brady announced his retirement.

Brady said he's going to Tampa again, so yeah i think it is.

rms13
03-14-2022, 10:02 PM
Brady said he's going to Tampa again, so yeah i think it is.


He also said he was retiring a few weeks ago.

49erRCCollector
03-14-2022, 11:11 PM
DJ Jones gone to Den. 3 years, $30 mil.

Charvarius Ward to 49ers.

oplum29
03-15-2022, 01:30 AM
DJ Jones gone to Den. 3 years, $30 mil.

Charvarius Ward to 49ers.

finally a FA signing!!! sheesh man

hate that we lost Tomlinson and DJ, but we also knew this was coming. need Banks and Kinlaw to really step up, big time.

also, i was hoping for Gilmore, but Ward seems good. undrafted FA who won a title with the Chiefs (against our 49ers), and he's only 25 years old. he's a feisty dude who can play 1 on 1 with some over the top coverage help if needed, so i expect him to cover Cooper Kupp Week 1 when we play the Rams and ruin their banner drop night.

:)

now hoping we can add another pass rusher...would love to add Von Miller or Chandler Jones, although those might be far fetched ideas.

Athey49
03-15-2022, 04:29 AM
Was really hoping for Gilmore but Ward is a good signing. Agree on needing another rusher, Jones would fit well. MVS would be a good signing for our #3/4 WR, someone who can stretch the field

oplum29
03-15-2022, 12:20 PM
really surprised about the Dee Ford re-structure...he's been a total waste of money since becoming a 49er.

he's done nothing but cash checks, that's it. i know he's been hurt, but come on dude, i think the 49ers should get a full refund for that, or have it in the contract that if he only plays 10% of the games, the team gets a refund.

FBallHobbies
03-15-2022, 02:12 PM
Was really hoping for Gilmore but Ward is a good signing. Agree on needing another rusher, Jones would fit well. MVS would be a good signing for our #3/4 WR, someone who can stretch the field

MVS has a lot of trouble staying on the field

A lot of receivers coming out in the draft San Fran can grab late.

oplum29
03-15-2022, 06:38 PM
i hate that everybody else trades and signs players, and we are playing with our thumbs instead.

i wonder if we had kept Garoppolo and said that since the beginning, if it would influence some players to come and play for us.

i'm honestly even wondering if we're going to trade Jimmy after all...seeing the alternative as it is.

seriously, with Jimmy, we are a SB contender, and that's a fact. KC wasn't when they had Alex Smith, so there was no pressure to make the switch over to Mahomes, but with us?

Archangel1775
03-16-2022, 01:06 AM
JimmyG will be released if a trade doesn't happen. Only an acceptable $1.4 million against the cap vice $27 million if he played out his contract. He's not staying in the red and gold. With how last season went, I'm going with Trey Lance as the ride or die this year.

oplum29
03-16-2022, 10:59 AM
JimmyG will be released if a trade doesn't happen. Only an acceptable $1.4 million against the cap vice $27 million if he played out his contract. He's not staying in the red and gold. With how last season went, I'm going with Trey Lance as the ride or die this year.

49ers restructured the contracts of Kittle and Armstead putting us $18M under the cap now, which i believe just bought us time to keep Jimmy until much later now.

so yeah, there's that.

i'm really starting to wonder if:

A- the 49ers can't trade Jimmy because the market isn't there
B- the 49ers aren't getting what they want (2nd round pick at least)
C- the 49ers are starting to 2nd guess if they want to blowup a SB contender

i can already picture Kyle and Lynch coming out later and saying "we've really thought about this, and why mess with a good thing? why blow it up when we are a SB contender with Jimmy right now? let's run it one more time, while Trey gets another year to develop"

just saying...

49erRCCollector
03-16-2022, 11:14 AM
I wish the colt and Niners would just get it over with. All the posturing in the press is tiring.

oplum29
03-16-2022, 11:24 AM
i think at some point, they'll make the trade for Garoppolo, and the Colts fans will fall in love with Jimmy the way we did :(

in saying that, he'd be a good fit with that offense, and a great locker room presence. i just think Indy is doing their homework, trying to see if somehow Matt Ryan or Baker can end up in Indy before they make a deal.

Eagle
03-16-2022, 11:29 AM
All in on Trey Lance this year. I'm expecting him to at least be good, if not very good. As an Eagles fan, I can say North Dakota QB's have a thick skin and are always great teammates.

FBallHobbies
03-16-2022, 01:26 PM
Kittle and Armstead restructured to clear $24 mill in cap space

Wonder what they have in the works? Maybe sign Honey Badger and Wagner?

teamterrellowen
03-16-2022, 07:59 PM
Mostert to Miami. Was really hoping he would stay as well. When healthy he was a monster in this offense.

49erRCCollector
03-16-2022, 08:13 PM
Mostert to Miami. Was really hoping he would stay as well. When healthy he was a monster in this offense.

I was a fan but I think we saw better vision (maybe less speed) from Mitchell and I want to see a healthy Sermon. Mostert was often feast or famine.

Still, I was fan.

This could just be a conservative Niners FA approach but I have this feeling there is some move coming. Maybe I'm wrong.

oplum29
03-17-2022, 01:03 AM
Was really hoping we could have kept Mostert, he has the burst that Elijah Mitchell sorely lacks. A healthy Mostert would have been huge for us last season, because Mitchell wore down, didn’t have the speed, and we didn’t have a solid backup after him.

You got to believe the 49ers will address the RB, WR, TE, and o-line soon.

oplum29
03-21-2022, 10:30 PM
so apparently the Garoppolo market is D-E-D...ded

hahaha

unless Houston wants him, which i think is possible and they honestly should get him, to be the face of their franchise, but if that doesn't happen, then i guess we keep Jimmy and let him battle Trey for the starting job?

i mean, what team would have a better backup QB in the NFL than us right now?

https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/BNG-L-49ERS-0123-37.jpg?w=1024

49erRCCollector
03-24-2022, 11:18 AM
Kerry Hyder back in a one year deal. Like that sign.

Lots of role players back on one year deals.

Archangel1775
03-24-2022, 11:47 AM
It was strange that the Colts, a legit SB contender , got Matt Ryan, who is on his last legs, instead of someone like Jimmy G. Apparently the shoulder surgery timeline was the issue, he would miss too much time with a new team.

49ersSF
03-24-2022, 02:28 PM
It's understandable. You have one QB who might be 37 but has played nearly every game over the past 10 years versus a QB who has been injured for nearly half the possible games he could have played in over the past 5 years and many of the games he did play in he was playing injured.

Grid
03-24-2022, 02:55 PM
It was strange that the Colts, a legit SB contender , got Matt Ryan, who is on his last legs, instead of someone like Jimmy G. Apparently the shoulder surgery timeline was the issue, he would miss too much time with a new team.

Look at Stafford on a new team. Look at Brady. Look at all the recent success with these great QB's. Like the Joker said. Sometimes, "All you need is a little push".

I'd take Ryan, who won league MVP 5 years ago, and who actually took his team to the Super Bowl. Over Jimmy any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

The Colts are built to win now. Much like the Rams were. This is not a long term move. Id trust Matt, who has shown he can win in this league, multiple Pro Bowls and awards. Over Jimmy "Just Good Enough"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHWJWXWVIAESsmr.jpg

oplum29
03-26-2022, 06:40 PM
that shoulder surgery really screwed up the 49ers plans, but again, are we surprised that Jimmy got hurt?

what's sad is, i was watching a video of him on youtube, where he makes pizza, and he says he never got hurt until that shoulder separation against Miami when he was a Patriot, and ever since then, he's gotten hurt in every single season but 5 games with the 49ers, and one season with the 49ers.

now we're stuck in a situation where we can't really get rid of Jimmy, and cutting him won't do us any good, because then he'll end up in Seattle or something, and we don't want that.

Archangel1775
03-28-2022, 02:32 PM
I'd rather release him and potentially play against him, then take that cap hit.

49erRCCollector
03-28-2022, 03:39 PM
It's time to move on. Sure...picks? Would have been nice. We gotta resign Bosa and Deebo, pick up some smart, late-FA players and draft well.

New chapter.

Archangel1775
03-28-2022, 09:50 PM
Lynch stated they aren't releasing him, he's "too good".....sounds like a team desperate for something in return.

oplum29
03-29-2022, 08:31 PM
York backed Lynch and Shanahan up, so it seems like Garoppolo is here to stay for a while.

and whether we like what Lynch said or not about "he's too good to let go", Garoppolo can't be released for nothing in return, so yeah, i think he's staying until either an injury happens to someone else, or someone finally makes a trade for him, like Houston.

Archangel1775
04-29-2022, 10:41 PM
Drake Jackson!

https://i.imgur.com/KBwQLPLl.jpg

49erRCCollector
04-29-2022, 10:42 PM
Drake Jackson!

I dig that pick. Dude looks for real.

oplum29
05-01-2022, 01:10 PM
i really liked our draft, top to bottom. every pick we made addressed a specific need we had, and i really liked the Brock Purdy pick also, a very underrated pick. and then to add Leon O'Neal as an UDFA...good stuff :)!

Archangel1775
05-01-2022, 08:56 PM
Round 1, No Pick
Round 2, Pick No. 61: Drake Jackson, LB, USC
Round 3, Pick No. 93: Tyrion Davis-Price, RB, LSU
Round 3, Pick No. 105: Danny Gray, WR, SMU
Round 4, Pick No. 134: Spencer Buford, G, Texas-San Antonio
Round 5, Pick No. 172: Samuel Womack, CB, Toledo
Round 6, Pick No. 187: Nick Zakelj, OT, Fordham
Round 6, Pick No. 220: Kalia Davis, DT, UCF
Round 6, Pick No. 221: Tariq Castro-Fields, CB, Penn State
Round 7, Pick No. 262: Brock Purdy, QB, Iowa State Mr. Irrelevant

Siberian13
05-01-2022, 09:01 PM
i really liked our draft, top to bottom. every pick we made addressed a specific need we had, and i really liked the Brock Purdy pick also, a very underrated pick. and then to add Leon O'Neal as an UDFA...good stuff :)!

Serious question. What do you on Purdy?

49ersSF
05-01-2022, 09:09 PM
i really liked our draft, top to bottom. every pick we made addressed a specific need we had, and i really liked the Brock Purdy pick also, a very underrated pick. and then to add Leon O'Neal as an UDFA...good stuff :)!

I liked it specifically for depth which was sorely needed. Drake is obviously going to be interesting especially that he will be surround with guys in that front 7 that can push him to become great.

The sleeper for me is Castro-Fields. His awareness on run D is the biggest question mark but the fact he is 6'1 and runs a 4.38 40 at CB makes me see pro bowl potential. The fact he is on a team with a great front 7 means he will not be needed immediately to make huge contributions on run D and instead can continue to focus on pass d while steadily improving his run d over time. I love this pick!

oplum29
05-02-2022, 12:25 AM
Serious question. What do you on Purdy?

idk if you're asking why i like Purdy? or what do you do with Purdy?

if you're asking the first, i like his college resume. and what we do with Purdy is let him battle it out with Nate Sudfield for the backup role (assuming Garoppolo is eventually traded away).

but Purdy could be a very serviceable backup in the league for a while, think Ty Detmer for example.

Athey49
05-02-2022, 05:11 AM
Not a huge fan of the Price pick in the 2nd, feel like there were much bigger needs at the time. I'm on the same boat about Jackson, think he could strive in this system

oplum29
05-02-2022, 11:52 AM
Not a huge fan of the Price pick in the 2nd, feel like there were much bigger needs at the time. I'm on the same boat about Jackson, think he could strive in this system

i think we saw what happened with all the injuries at RB last season, and honestly, as good as Elijah Mitchell was last season, he wore down by the GB playoff game, and we didn't really have anybody else out there.

McHasty wasn't going to do it, and idk what the heck happened to Trey Sermon last season.

49erRCCollector
05-02-2022, 11:58 AM
i think we saw what happened with all the injuries at RB last season, and honestly, as good as Elijah Mitchell was last season, he wore down by the GB playoff game, and we didn't really have anybody else out there.

McHasty wasn't going to do it, and idk what the heck happened to Trey Sermon last season.

Clearly the Niners don’t trust Sermon and need a durable 2nd option.

I also think they thought they could get OL help later (including the UDFA center) and coach them up. They went to the SB with Mike Person and Ben Garland at OL. This scheme doesn’t need superstars.

Confused as to what we’re doing at Strong Safety, though.

oplum29
05-02-2022, 01:23 PM
Clearly the Niners don’t trust Sermon and need a durable 2nd option.

I also think they thought they could get OL help later (including the UDFA center) and coach them up. They went to the SB with Mike Person and Ben Garland at OL. This scheme doesn’t need superstars.

Confused as to what we’re doing at Strong Safety, though.

i think the 49ers are good with their safeties right now, be it with Hufanga or if Tartt comes back. they also picked up Leon O'Neal from Texas A&M, seems like a ballhawking safety.

49erRCCollector
05-02-2022, 07:41 PM
i think the 49ers are good with their safeties right now, be it with Hufanga or if Tartt comes back. they also picked up Leon O'Neal from Texas A&M, seems like a ballhawking safety.

Hufanga has the energy but at times he seemed a little lost in pass coverage. Maybe year 2 we see the jump.

oplum29
09-11-2022, 03:53 PM
tale of two halves...big time

we dominated on defense the entire 1st half, then idk what happened in the 2nd half. outscored 19-3, way too many penalties, not setting the edge, and that monsoon, my goodness.

we'll be alright. Trey did some nice things today.

we're on to Week 2!

oplum29
09-18-2022, 03:43 PM
Trey is done, prayers up to the kid.

was really excited to see how he was going to do today

back to JimmyG!!! good thing we kept him

oplum29
09-18-2022, 03:46 PM
this is going to be the 2001 Patriots all over again. we lose our starting QB and the backup comes in and has a magical season...49ers are going to the SB.

mikejones
09-18-2022, 04:10 PM
this is going to be the 2001 Patriots all over again. we lose our starting QB and the backup comes in and has a magical season...49ers are going to the SB.

Lol, that's what my brother said. I guess being positive doesn't hurt.

oplum29
09-18-2022, 05:01 PM
Lol, that's what my brother said. I guess being positive doesn't hurt.

nice!

:)!

oplum29
09-18-2022, 06:05 PM
49ers win, JimmyG to the rescue, Lance done for the season.

we should get Kittle back next week when we're on prime-time TV against Denver...in the meantime, do we keep our QB room to just Jimmy and Brock Purdy? or do we make a move and bring in a vet just in case?

Athey49
09-18-2022, 07:17 PM
49ers win, JimmyG to the rescue, Lance done for the season.

we should get Kittle back next week when we're on prime-time TV against Denver...in the meantime, do we keep our QB room to just Jimmy and Brock Purdy? or do we make a move and bring in a vet just in case?

I don't trust Purdy, and Jimmy has quite the injury history himself. No real recommendations off the top of my head but I definitely see a move being made

BonVoyage
09-19-2022, 09:52 AM
I know this is the 2022 thread, but its fun to speculate - what do people think happens this offseason / next year with JG and Trey? Obviously somewhat dependent on how the season shakes out of course. Is it a foregone conclusion that JG leaves?

Siberian13
09-19-2022, 10:20 AM
I know this is the 2022 thread, but its fun to speculate - what do people think happens this offseason / next year with JG and Trey? Obviously somewhat dependent on how the season shakes out of course. Is it a foregone conclusion that JG leaves?

Jimmy G gets a 3 year fully guaranteed contract
Trey Lance gets cut
Brock Purdy is the backup
Josh Rosen signed to practice squad

Super Bowl

Scottish Punk
09-19-2022, 10:30 AM
I know this is the 2022 thread, but its fun to speculate - what do people think happens this offseason / next year with JG and Trey? Obviously somewhat dependent on how the season shakes out of course. Is it a foregone conclusion that JG leaves?

Really depends on how the season goes. I think they make the playoffs now which I didn't believe would happen under Lance. Obviously if you are high on Lance, you would think they still would have.

If 49ers miss playoffs, easy call to dump Jimmy and blame the lost season on the injury.
If 49ers make the playoffs and are bounced in game one, you can make the same argument.
However, for every game they can win in the playoffs, this will solidify Jimmy G's position. IMO, say they win the division and make it to the NFC championship game. You must resign Jimmy and quietly try to find some trade value for Trey. No way you can tell the locker room to go back to QB growing pains after a deep playoff run (especially since current QB has a history of deep runs).

BonVoyage
09-19-2022, 11:06 AM
Really depends on how the season goes. I think they make the playoffs now which I didn't believe would happen under Lance. Obviously if you are high on Lance, you would think they still would have.

If 49ers miss playoffs, easy call to dump Jimmy and blame the lost season on the injury.
If 49ers make the playoffs and are bounced in game one, you can make the same argument.
However, for every game they can win in the playoffs, this will solidify Jimmy G's position. IMO, say they win the division and make it to the NFC championship game. You must resign Jimmy and quietly try to find some trade value for Trey. No way you can tell the locker room to go back to QB growing pains after a deep playoff run (especially since current QB has a history of deep runs).

I don't consider myself a JG stan, but my wild idea this past offseason was for the Niners to explore trading Trey then and signing JG to a longer term deal with a lower AAV than what he was making. The Niners wouldn't have gotten back what they gave up for Trey, but I think the market would have been robust - he was better than any of the 2022 QBs. And for all of JG's warts (which are plenty), he kind of fits the team. A lowered AAV for JG (and picks from trading Trey) would've allowed to team to improve in other areas (maybe keeping Laken for example) while running it back with a team that has been dang close to winning SBs.

oplum29
09-20-2022, 09:56 PM
I know this is the 2022 thread, but its fun to speculate - what do people think happens this offseason / next year with JG and Trey? Obviously somewhat dependent on how the season shakes out of course. Is it a foregone conclusion that JG leaves?

this was a 2022-23 thread i created after we were knocked out of the playoffs, so it's a current thread. the NFL doesn't run on two seasons the way the NBA does for example, if that makes sense. :)!

oplum29
09-25-2022, 10:50 PM
my god, JimmyG with the most typical JimmyG game you can have. a nice TD drive, bad throws, inaccuracy, turnovers, looks like a deer in headlights, the Dan Orlovosky tribute, and another close loss.

how many times have we seen this story?

my god....this is why us 49er fans were willing to go through the tough times with Trey Lance, because we were tired of Jimmy and his garbage mediocre play. but we'll have to wait until next year.

and now, we get Jimmy again in prime-time, at home, against the Rams. oh boy.....buckle up fellow 49er fans...it's gonna be that type of season.

Archangel1775
09-26-2022, 02:50 AM
The worst part was Trent Williams getting injured. Hopefully it's not bad

Boo
09-26-2022, 06:35 AM
this is going to be the 2001 Patriots all over again. we lose our starting QB and the backup comes in and has a magical season...49ers are going to the SB.

my god, JimmyG with the most typical JimmyG game you can have. a nice TD drive, bad throws, inaccuracy, turnovers, looks like a deer in headlights, the Dan Orlovosky tribute, and another close loss.

how many times have we seen this story?

my god....this is why us 49er fans were willing to go through the tough times with Trey Lance, because we were tired of Jimmy and his garbage mediocre play. but we'll have to wait until next year.

and now, we get Jimmy again in prime-time, at home, against the Rams. oh boy.....buckle up fellow 49er fans...it's gonna be that type of season.

:)!:)!

duwal
09-26-2022, 11:57 AM
my god, JimmyG with the most typical JimmyG game you can have. a nice TD drive, bad throws, inaccuracy, turnovers, looks like a deer in headlights, the Dan Orlovosky tribute, and another close loss.

how many times have we seen this story?

my god....this is why us 49er fans were willing to go through the tough times with Trey Lance, because we were tired of Jimmy and his garbage mediocre play. but we'll have to wait until next year.

and now, we get Jimmy again in prime-time, at home, against the Rams. oh boy.....buckle up fellow 49er fans...it's gonna be that type of season.


I think we all could have predicted a good amount of rust. Remember he didn't do any reps during pre-season and this was the first week where he was working with the first unit during practice

Siberian13
09-26-2022, 12:04 PM
:)!:)!

:cry:

Nailed it

51CardDeck
09-26-2022, 12:12 PM
This is Jimmy G's preseason...I wasn't expecting much from him
He was off sync with all receivers

He'll probably have a great game against the Rams and all 49ers fans will be scratching their heads again about Jimmy G.

Athey49
09-26-2022, 06:06 PM
Yeah, that was a rough game to watch..hopefully Jimmy can at least keep us afloat and the defense keeps doing what it's been doing

mfw13
09-26-2022, 07:39 PM
49ers are toast....Trent Williams out 6-8 weeks.

Jimmy G will be lucky to still be walking after next week's game against the Rams....

You can't pay the position players but let your O-line go to hell in a handbasket....

Archangel1775
09-27-2022, 04:02 AM
49ers are toast....Trent Williams out 6-8 weeks.

Jimmy G will be lucky to still be walking after next week's game against the Rams....

You can't pay the position players but let your O-line go to hell in a handbasket....

The center is an idiot. He helped on a double team and drove the DT into the back of Trent William's legs. So gawd damn stupid to do that along the trench line and during a pass play.

207consignments
09-27-2022, 12:02 PM
Jimmy will be fine. He didnt practice with the team nor was he given a playbook. Still plenty of season they will be fine.

oplum29
09-29-2022, 09:41 PM
49ers are toast....Trent Williams out 6-8 weeks.

Jimmy G will be lucky to still be walking after next week's game against the Rams....

You can't pay the position players but let your O-line go to hell in a handbasket....

i don't think the 49ers were prepared for Alex Mack to retire, but maybe i'm wrong.

we're finally getting back Brunskill hopefully this week, so he could fill in at guard or center.

McKivitz played for Trent last year in the Week 18 must-win game, so i'm confident in him. the inside i think we knew was going to be our biggest weakness just because we basically have two rookies playing there- Banks and Burford.

oplum29
10-04-2022, 11:31 PM
a little late, but man what a win by the 49ers, total domination by the defense.

and we're hopefully getting Jimmie Ward and Verrett back soon. need to stay healthy, and we're looking at adding Al-Shazir and Mitchell back later this season too.

2-2 with Carolina up...let's do this!

oplum29
10-15-2022, 06:27 PM
Kinlaw back on the IR

think it's time we start possibly consider that this guy is a bust. he's played i believe in 21 of 41 games now in his career.

idk how the 49ers are where they are when you really consider some of the terrible misses in the 1st round that Lynch and Shanahan have had since taking over:

2017- Solomon Thomas (passed on Jamal Adams, Mahomes, Watson, McCaffrey, Marshon Lattimore, Marlon Humphrey, Jonathan Allen, and TJ Watt)

2017- Rueben Foster (passed on Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, and Budda Baker)

2018- McGlinchey

2019- Bosa

2020- Kinlaw (passed on Tristan Wirfs, Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb)

2021- Trey Lance (passed on Ja'Marr Chase, Kyle Pitts, and Micah Parsons)

my goodness

FBallHobbies
10-15-2022, 08:35 PM
Safe to say Kinlaw is a bust

Looking at the roster, Lynch drafts his best with the 2nd round on. Kittle was a 5th, Warner was a 3rd, Deebo in the 2nd, Greenlaw in the 5th. Drake Jackson has been solid filling in where DJ Jones was in the middle

I wish to this that that would have extended Buckner and not Armstead. That's what I wanted after the SB loss

As for 2021, everyone knew they were going qb. You aren't going to trade (3) 1sts just to move up to take a skill position player. And after that trade, I wanted Mac Jones ��

Despite all the injuries, I'm hoping San Fran comes out healthy after the falcons game because this stretch up games coming up is ridiculous

Chiefs, Rams, Chargers, Cardinals, Saints & Dolphins. Holy hell

oplum29
10-16-2022, 12:35 PM
Despite all the injuries, I'm hoping San Fran comes out healthy after the falcons game because this stretch up games coming up is ridiculous

Chiefs, Rams, Chargers, Cardinals, Saints & Dolphins. Holy hell

down 14-0 in Atlanta....

:doh:

and yeah, that stretch is going to be brutal because we honestly have no clue what 49ers team is going to show up, or whose left to play after every game.

oplum29
10-16-2022, 01:42 PM
add another two starters lost thanks to the turf, my goodness.

49ers are now without 7 starters on defense...7

yes...7

3 on the D-line
1 LB
2 CBs
1 Safety

at this point, all i'm hoping for is a shot at the wild card, that's all we need. finish 9-8 or whatever, get in, get healthy by December, and then make a run at the end.

oplum29
10-16-2022, 03:00 PM
3-3

and KC next week....YIPEEE

mfw13
10-16-2022, 03:26 PM
add another two starters lost thanks to the turf, my goodness.

49ers are now without 7 starters on defense...7

yes...7

3 on the D-line
1 LB
2 CBs
1 Safety

at this point, all i'm hoping for is a shot at the wild card, that's all we need. finish 9-8 or whatever, get in, get healthy by December, and then make a run at the end.

And four starters on offense (both tackles, Lance, and Elijah Mitchell)

oplum29
10-16-2022, 04:42 PM
And four starters on offense (both tackles, Lance, and Elijah Mitchell)

i honestly think, in that 4th quarter drive that started at the 1-yard line, the one the 49ers ran off 10 minutes and got zero points on, that Shanahan was just trying to get out of Atlanta as quickly as possible.

honestly, the offense ran with zero sense of urgency on that drive.

he's thinking, "we got KC next weekend, let's just get out of here".

Athey49
10-16-2022, 04:51 PM
Yeah this has been a rough stretch for injuries, next man up though. Thankfully no one in the division wants to run away with it

oplum29
10-16-2022, 10:47 PM
Yeah this has been a rough stretch for injuries, next man up though. Thankfully no one in the division wants to run away with it

Seattle is game, gotta give them credit, Geno has been a god-send for that team to stabilize them. Arizona is getting DHop back next week, which should pick up their offense, and the Rams look hungover from the SB.

the 49ers need to just stay competitive somehow until December, and then go on another run with whatever players they have left because right now, i honestly would have not let the strength and conditioning team on the airplane.

BonVoyage
10-17-2022, 11:04 AM
Its pretty sad that we haven't played a single team over .500 and we're 3-3. Could easily be 3-6 after KC/LAR/LAC. Hopefully we get healthy for the back half of the schedule, which currently doesn't have anyone over .500 on it.

Siberian13
10-17-2022, 11:26 AM
Messing up my teams draft picks next year. Thanks a lot

49erRCCollector
10-17-2022, 01:15 PM
I'm not panicked yet, though maybe I should be. Here's why:

1) No Bosa, Armstead, Kinlaw, Moseley, Trent Williams, Jimmie Ward and then losing Mooney mid-game. At some point something had to give. I was disappointed but not surprised they lost to the Falcons. They will get run over by KC.

2) This IS a talented roster. If they can get healthier as the season goes on - Moseley is gone of course, but Verrett w/ Mooney, Ward and Talanoa... at least get Armstead and Bosa back on the field and see where we are with Kinlaw... I like our chances in this terrible division. 10-7 could take it with how inconsistent all the teams are.

3) The O-Line should gel more over time. No Mack, Tomlinson means new guys early. But they will gel.

As an aside I would love to see the Niners make a run at McCaffrey. He is the kind of back that we really don't have that a guy like Shanahan could really use.

jplarson
10-17-2022, 01:26 PM
Shanahan was just trying to get out of Atlanta as quickly as possible.

I can't blame him. Some bad memories there.

oplum29
10-22-2022, 01:20 PM
what did i miss? :D

oplum29
10-23-2022, 11:53 PM
yeah about today....sheesh

i'm gonna just say this.

the NFL is a marathon, i posted this earlier in the thread. we were 3-5 last season, went on a run, and were a quarter away from going to the Super Bowl.

this team, if they are healthy, can make a run. we got torched today by KC, but also were missing two DTs, a LB, and CB. those injuries are killing the defense the last two weeks.

Jimmy is gonna Jimmy. He looks good in this throws, he looks more comfortable, but then he reverts back to terrible Jimmy with stupid interceptions.

Kyle Shanahan is also too smart for his own good. he's now 1-30 in this coaching career with the 49ers, when trailing by 3 points or more going into the 4th quarter.

1.......and 30.

that is an insane stat for a head coach that people keep referring to as an "offensive genius", i'm sorry, he's a smart dude, but he's not a genius. he's smart, but he outsmarts himself too much.

three things are going to kill this team, as they've always done with Kyle as the HC.

1- injuries (the most injured team in the NFL since 2017)
2- JimmyG (mediocre at best, Tony Romo interceptions at worst)
3- Kyle Shanahan (too smart for his own good)

3-4, Rams next week, then the bye.

if anything positive came out of today, it's that Kittle finally got going, McCaffrey looked good in very limited play, and no major injuries.

we're on to the Rams....

Archangel1775
10-24-2022, 01:26 AM
Yeah, the defense was who we thought they were without those starters.

2dueces
10-24-2022, 06:47 AM
yeah about today....sheesh

i'm gonna just say this.

the NFL is a marathon, i posted this earlier in the thread. we were 3-5 last season, went on a run, and were a quarter away from going to the Super Bowl.

this team, if they are healthy, can make a run. we got torched today by KC, but also were missing two DTs, a LB, and CB. those injuries are killing the defense the last two weeks.

Jimmy is gonna Jimmy. He looks good in this throws, he looks more comfortable, but then he reverts back to terrible Jimmy with stupid interceptions.

Kyle Shanahan is also too smart for his own good. he's now 1-30 in this coaching career with the 49ers, when trailing by 3 points or more going into the 4th quarter.

1.......and 30.

that is an insane stat for a head coach that people keep referring to as an "offensive genius", i'm sorry, he's a smart dude, but he's not a genius. he's smart, but he outsmarts himself too much.

three things are going to kill this team, as they've always done with Kyle as the HC.

1- injuries (the most injured team in the NFL since 2017)
2- JimmyG (mediocre at best, Tony Romo interceptions at worst)
3- Kyle Shanahan (too smart for his own good)

3-4, Rams next week, then the bye.

if anything positive came out of today, it's that Kittle finally got going, McCaffrey looked good in very limited play, and no major injuries.

we're on to the Rams....

Buffalo was missing 5 starters on defense last week against KC and held them to 20 points. Can’t make excuses for 44 points and 550 yards

BonVoyage
10-24-2022, 10:20 AM
Awful final 3 quarters, outscored 37-13 and it could've been worse. They got absolutely dominated at the line on both O and D.

JG got sacked 5 times, not even sure how many other pressures/hurries.

Not sure where the final numbers ended up but at one point the DLine was getting pressure at 1/4 their normal rate.
Looks like the Defense may have been a mirage thanks to an easy opening schedule. Denver, Atlanta, Chicago, Rams, Panthers are all in the bottom 10 in yards and points. Easy to look good when going against inept offenses.

oplum29
10-24-2022, 10:26 PM
Buffalo was missing 5 starters on defense last week against KC and held them to 20 points. Can’t make excuses for 44 points and 550 yards

Buffalo also has the NFL MVP right now...the 49ers have Jimmy Garoppolo

oplum29
10-24-2022, 10:44 PM
apparently there's now talk that Shanahan might be losing the locker room?

idk if that's true or not, but i do imagine a 49ers team that knows they are way better than their record shows and the frustration is starting to show with some of these guys speaking out to the media.

i still think we're going to be okay, it's a long season...i think people get caught up in the sprint, so they'll start crowning champions in October, when you've still got 10 games to play.

it's just very frustrating being 3-4 with JimmyG making rookie mistakes.

i believe all of us 49er fans would be alright with this if Lance was starting, because we were prepared for the learning curve, but not with Jimmy. this team should be at worst, 5-2 with wins over the Broncos and Falcons included, but nope, we're 3-4 with Jimmy.

what's also makes things worse on top, is seeing Justin Fields playing football, and Lance isn't. I wanted Fields, he was my pick. he had the goods and would have been perfect in this offense. but nope, let's go with the unproven Lance who hasn't played ball in over a year, and now, we're going on what, 3 years before he gets any real playing time.

and at the end of the day, we have no clue if Lance is the guy still. we don't know if Shanahan has his guy, or if he can even develop a QB. and we gave up all those pics for Lance, while Mac Jones and Fields went a few picks later.

my goodness.....

Siberian13
10-24-2022, 11:40 PM
Do you think Trey Lance would be the same, better or worse?

49erRCCollector
10-25-2022, 12:07 AM
Do you think Trey Lance would be the same, better or worse?

Worse.

Injuries and Jimmy having no camp tell the tale here. I think they’ll get it together. They need to beat the Rams coming up, win the division and get in the dance.

Let’s see how it goes.

Athey49
10-25-2022, 08:33 PM
This is why I was so against the Lance trade, although I really hope it does work out. We could very well have Rodgers on our team right now with those picks we gave up. I'm not a fan of the guy but he is a top 5 QB with the talent around him.

oplum29
10-27-2022, 11:09 PM
This is why I was so against the Lance trade, although I really hope it does work out. We could very well have Rodgers on our team right now with those picks we gave up. I'm not a fan of the guy but he is a top 5 QB with the talent around him.

we could have gone after Brady or Rodgers instead of pulling the trade for Trey.

not only that, while Mac, Trevor, Zach, and Fields are playing, Lance is hurt. he's the one dude nobody knows how he'll turn out.

it's frustrating.

with Lance and being 3-4, i think we'd be okay with the growing pains. with JimmyG and being 3-4, it's unacceptable.

88horsepower
10-28-2022, 09:02 AM
we could have gone after Brady or Rodgers instead of pulling the trade for Trey.

not only that, while Mac, Trevor, Zach, and Fields are playing, Lance is hurt. he's the one dude nobody knows how he'll turn out.

it's frustrating.

with Lance and being 3-4, i think we'd be okay with the growing pains. with JimmyG and being 3-4, it's unacceptable.

I hear Matt Ryan's available. Maybe the Niners can trade a bag of chips to the Colts for Ryan's contract and reunite him with Shanahan. Couldn't be worse than what Jimmy's done to this point and the Niners have a far better line than Indy does.

blockedbyjames
10-28-2022, 09:20 AM
Niners will be fine. Unbelievable playmakers on offense now. Jimmy just needs a couple weeks to gel with CMC and Deebo together and they'll be the class of the NFC.

oplum29
10-29-2022, 04:49 PM
Niners will be fine. Unbelievable playmakers on offense now. Jimmy just needs a couple weeks to gel with CMC and Deebo together and they'll be the class of the NFC.

that's what i'm thinking/hoping for too. just survive until December, get healthy, then make a run like last year.

BonVoyage
10-30-2022, 08:40 AM
Looks like the Defense may have been a mirage thanks to an easy opening schedule. Denver, Atlanta, Chicago, Rams, Panthers are all in the bottom 10 in yards and points. Easy to look good when going against inept offenses.


Maybe Barrows reads my BO posts
“Today, however, you have to wonder if some of their success was a mirage. After all, five of their first seven opponents rank in the bottom 10 in the league in offensive production” - The Athletic


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oplum29
10-30-2022, 11:19 AM
Maybe Barrows reads my BO posts
“Today, however, you have to wonder if some of their success was a mirage. After all, five of their first seven opponents rank in the bottom 10 in the league in offensive production” - The Athletic


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it's not a mirage, injuries have destroyed the defense.

they played one game this season, without 7 starters on defense...7

SEVEN

they were missing 3 d-line starters, a linebacker, both corners, and a safety

no team could survive those injuries...not even the 85 Bears, nor the Legion of Doom, nor the Steel Curtain, or any other defense for that matter.

oplum29
11-03-2022, 09:46 PM
What a win by the 49ers Sunday over the Rams, just awesome.

4-4, headed into the bye week with a whole bunch of players possibly coming back.

let's go!!!!

FBallHobbies
11-04-2022, 04:59 PM
Looking at the remaining schedule, the only game I am worried about is Seattle IN Seattle

Everything else, I am confident the 49ers will win

oplum29
11-05-2022, 10:55 AM
Looking at the remaining schedule, the only game I am worried about is Seattle IN Seattle

Everything else, I am confident the 49ers will win

Arizona, Tampa, Miami, and Seattle...those 5 games are going to be tough.

but i think if we can get back our defense, all those dudes we've been missing, we'll be okay the second half. thinking 6-3 at worse, which would put us around 10-7 overall, but with the NFC West crown hopefully.

oplum29
11-07-2022, 10:04 PM
should we make a play for Odell Beckham Jr?

i say yes! if it keeps him out of NY, Dallas, or Buffalo, why not?

Archangel1775
11-08-2022, 03:48 AM
should we make a play for Odell Beckham Jr?

i say yes! if it keeps him out of NY, Dallas, or Buffalo, why not?

I dont think his personality fits the locker room. He'd come in and expect the ball 50% of the time.

blockedbyjames
11-08-2022, 10:11 AM
Looking at the remaining schedule, the only game I am worried about is Seattle IN Seattle

Everything else, I am confident the 49ers will win

Worried about Seattle? Can't wait to expose Seattle IN Seattle. McCaffrey's going to run all over them:)!

49erRCCollector
11-10-2022, 05:27 PM
Jason Verrett just tore his achillies. His body is CURSED. I really thought he'd be in the line up this season with E-man out but...

If I'm Verrett, I hang 'em up. Dude cannot stay healthy. His body does not want him to play football. Talented as anyone, but ... wow.

FBallHobbies
11-11-2022, 02:01 AM
Worried about Seattle? Can't wait to expose Seattle IN Seattle. McCaffrey's going to run all over them:)!

The 12th man makes a HUGE difference

I was able to attend a 49ers game in Seattle years ago visiting relatives. Loudest I've ever heard a stadium

Week 2 was a good win for San Fran against Seattle. A division win, which is definitely needed for potential tie breakers

Need TB to beat Seattle in Germany and the 49ers not to choke against the Chargers

Archangel1775
11-11-2022, 02:04 PM
I still can't believe they got McCaffrey, nuts! Stay healthy man!

BonVoyage
11-12-2022, 10:42 PM
Jason Verrett just tore his achillies. His body is CURSED. I really thought he'd be in the line up this season with E-man out but...

If I'm Verrett, I hang 'em up. Dude cannot stay healthy. His body does not want him to play football. Talented as anyone, but ... wow.


2 Achilles tears, 2 ACL tears, 2 labrum tears… someone has a voodoo doll of this guy and is going to town. 9 years in the league, he’s ended the year on IR in 7 of them.
Mosley and now Verrett out for the season. I could see Kinlaw and Armstead not coming back either. Kinlaw’s knee seems like it will never be healthy and they were very secretive about Armstead’s stress fracture.


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oplum29
11-13-2022, 11:21 AM
2 Achilles tears, 2 ACL tears, 2 labrum tears… someone has a voodoo doll of this guy and is going to town. 9 years in the league, he’s ended the year on IR in 7 of them.
Mosley and now Verrett out for the season. I could see Kinlaw and Armstead not coming back either. Kinlaw’s knee seems like it will never be healthy and they were very secretive about Armstead’s stress fracture.


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drafting Kinlaw was a brutal mistake by the 49ers, especially when Tristan Wirfs was there, and seeing just how much McGlinchey has struggled the last few years in pass blocking.

they knew Kinlaw's injury history and the concerns expressed from scouts (arthritis in the knee) and they still made the pick to fill in the void of losing Buckner, but news flash...you cannot fill the void left by Buckner on the field and his leadership in the locker room.

49erRCCollector
11-14-2022, 01:09 PM
I still haven't seen the Niners click into "go mode" though I think it is possible. Looking at the schedule I think there are a lot of w's there provided they stay healthy.

I also think missing Armstead is huge. I was a critic of the Armstead-over-Buckner move but now I see how much he brings to that d-line when he's gone. He really opens things up on the edge when he's inside because he's so big and strong. Even if the sacks aren't there, its clear that line is MUCH better with him in the lineup. I hope he can get back for this late season push.

Nice to have Mitchell back. When healthy, he's great. Him and CMC are a deadly 1-2 punch.

oplum29
11-19-2022, 06:30 PM
I still haven't seen the Niners click into "go mode" though I think it is possible. Looking at the schedule I think there are a lot of w's there provided they stay healthy.

I also think missing Armstead is huge. I was a critic of the Armstead-over-Buckner move but now I see how much he brings to that d-line when he's gone. He really opens things up on the edge when he's inside because he's so big and strong. Even if the sacks aren't there, its clear that line is MUCH better with him in the lineup. I hope he can get back for this late season push.

Nice to have Mitchell back. When healthy, he's great. Him and CMC are a deadly 1-2 punch.

last weekend's win over the Chargers was a tough game, but it was nice to come away with the win. those are the games we should have been winning earlier in the year (Atlanta, Chicago, and Detroit).

we are getting healthy, but we're still missing players.

FBallHobbies
11-19-2022, 10:19 PM
last weekend's win over the Chargers was a tough game, but it was nice to come away with the win. those are the games we should have been winning earlier in the year (Atlanta, Chicago, and Detroit).

we are getting healthy, but we're still missing players.

You mean Denver???
SF played Detroit last season

oplum29
11-20-2022, 01:51 PM
You mean Denver???
SF played Detroit last season

my bad, yes, Denver.

injury list is finally looking good, still no Kinlaw or Armstead though.

FBallHobbies
11-21-2022, 02:09 AM
my bad, yes, Denver.

injury list is finally looking good, still no Kinlaw or Armstead though.

The Niners have learned to play without Kinlaw so that isn't as big of a loss. To this day, I wanted Buckner over Armstead. But we can't always get what we want

Regardless of who is on the dline, please please please Demeco Ryans play a damn QB spy

Every year, San Fran gets KILLED not playing a spy against mobile qbs.

Oline is healthy and McGlinchey has been playing better than he was since the KC game

Elijah/CMAC 1-2 punch is a very effective tandem, and should be on the field together IMO. Split CMAC outside, takes a LB or S out of the box. Run Elijah between the tackles depending on what the defense plays. Stacked box means 1 v 1 and CMAC will win 100% of the time (theoretically)

Both Ward's will have their hands full with D-Hop and if you shut him down, the offense stalls. Arizona is "okay" in the run game but San Fran is #2 in the NFL against the run

The 49er's play better when the game isn't all on Jimmy G. I'd rather have Jimmy G throw for 220 with 0 tds and 0 ints than him going 280 yards/1 td/2 ints. History shows if he doesnt turn the ball over, it is a win

San Fran has a plethora of weapons on offense. Not everyone is going to get their share but the fact that Deebo got paid this offseason is a reason why he is quiet now.

5 of the last 8 games are home which is big. I don't count Mexico City as an away game since neither team gets a "home" field advantage. The game circled on my calendar is December 15 in Seattle. San Fran can go 6-2 to finish the year. I could also see the Commanders get a sneaky win against them. They are playing well and their DLine would give San Fran's OLine some issues

49erRCCollector
11-22-2022, 12:13 PM
Nice win last night but I feel like a win against a short-handed Cardinals is not a win against an elite team. I do think the Niners are a playoff team... but are they better than the Chiefs?

That, I don't know.

I still say they need Armstead back if they want to hit overdrive on defense.

Athey49
11-23-2022, 07:57 AM
Nice win last night but I feel like a win against a short-handed Cardinals is not a win against an elite team. I do think the Niners are a playoff team... but are they better than the Chiefs?

That, I don't know.

I still say they need Armstead back if they want to hit overdrive on defense.

That was a fun game to watch.

oplum29
11-23-2022, 07:42 PM
Nice win last night but I feel like a win against a short-handed Cardinals is not a win against an elite team. I do think the Niners are a playoff team... but are they better than the Chiefs?

That, I don't know.

I still say they need Armstead back if they want to hit overdrive on defense.

KC beat a very short handed 49ers team...i think people forget that too.

we didn't have Armstead, Kinlaw, Ward lasted one series then broke his hand, no Mosely, Greenlaw i believe left early, no Al-Shazir, and CMC's 1st game.

that's 6 starters on defense that we were missing, but people only remember KC dropping 44 points and 500 yards.

BonVoyage
11-28-2022, 10:07 AM
If the win against AZ was pretty, the win yesterday was ugly. Seemed like it could very easily have been a loss, Niners got a bit lucky with their TD and the fumble from Kamara.
They have the lowest SOS in the NFL. They'll make the playoffs on the backs of their easy schedule and weak NFC, but I'm still not sold on them doing damage in the playoffs. They have only 1 game left that should be tough, Miami. If they lose to them, what is SF's best win of the year? 27-7 vs Sea? A possible W over Washington?
Even with 1 of 2 more losses they should easily be the 3 seed in the NFC, which would probably get them a home WC game against the Giants or Commanders, then a Divisional Rd game at MN. The Niners could still sneak in to the 2 seed if they win out and MN trips up, I believe the tiebreaker would be Conf record and SF would be 10-2 and MN would probably be 9-3.

Some big decisions this offseason. Not only JG but there are some contracts about to take a big step up in value. Williams' cap hit will be $27M next year (#4 among OL), Armstead $24M (#8), Warner $18.5M (#4), Kittle $18M (#1). As sacrilegious as it may sound, you can't pay Armstead/Warner/Kittle that much. Hopefully the FO can work some cap magic.

49erRCCollector
11-28-2022, 12:31 PM
I'm still not sure what we have here. On the one hand, lots of teams have "easy schedules" and don't win, and certainly don't pitch shutouts in the 2nd half for 4 straight games. But this isn't the 1985 Bears or 2000 Ravens where they can kill teams just by being good on D. At least, I don't think so. During the Harbaugh years, and before that the Montana/Young years there were games I KNEW the 49ers were going to win. Just knew it. Week to week this season I have my fingers crossed.

As far as cap issues - and I haven't see where they are in terms of being able to release people or trade them or whatever - but I think:

a) The D can win without Armstead. It's better when he's in, but all those journeymen players are doing OK while he's out.

b) Kittle. Love him, but that record-setting season keeps moving farther and farther away. He's not Kelce. Yes, he blocks like a maniac, but it's not like he automatic. Maybe that changes with Lance, but it feels like he went from top 2, to top 10, maybe.

oplum29
11-29-2022, 12:56 AM
injuries starting to pile up once again...

Elijah Mitchell gone for 6-8 weeks after already missing 6-8 weeks for the same injury but i think this time is the other leg

CMC is being checked for his knee

Jimmy got beat up

Spencer Burford got beat up

my goodness, we went almost two weeks without an injury, i knew this was too good to be true

Archangel1775
11-29-2022, 06:47 AM
If the win against AZ was pretty, the win yesterday was ugly. Seemed like it could very easily have been a loss, Niners got a bit lucky with their TD and the fumble from Kamara.


Nothing lucky about it. The pass was on target and got tipped. It was a TD either way. That's just great focus by the WR. As for the fumble, it was a textbook helmet-on-ball forced fumble by the safety.

BonVoyage
11-29-2022, 08:30 AM
Nothing lucky about it. The pass was on target and got tipped. It was a TD either way. That's just great focus by the WR. As for the fumble, it was a textbook helmet-on-ball forced fumble by the safety.

They were lucky Mathieu didn't intercept it, the pass was short, plain and simple. Well done by Jennings to stay focused, agreed on that part.
And they were lucky Taylor's INT was called back for a questionable off the ball penalty.
Olave's catch/no-catch was close too, although Dean Blandino seemed to think they got the reversal right.

FBallHobbies
11-29-2022, 07:10 PM
Looking at the schedule, I am not worried about Miami. Their defense is lack luster
I do have the Washington game circled....might be a trap game for San Fran

Siberian13
11-29-2022, 07:21 PM
Miami is an interesting game. I keep going back and forth on that one for my pickem

oplum29
12-02-2022, 12:19 AM
i normally wouldn't fear Miami, until i remember how they thrashed us a few years back in San Fran...

i still think we're a better team, and that Shanahan never showed McDaniels everything he knows. should be a fun game. should have been a primetime game instead of the snoozer between Dallas and Indy

FBallHobbies
12-02-2022, 07:21 AM
i normally wouldn't fear Miami, until i remember how they thrashed us a few years back in San Fran...

i still think we're a better team, and that Shanahan never showed McDaniels everything he knows. should be a fun game. should have been a primetime game instead of the snoozer between Dallas and Indy

The best move for San Fran is to eat up clock and have their offense on the field as little as possible. Miami is beatable, and with Armstead coming back should help Bosa and Jackson off the edge

I need Jimmy G to have a repeat game as he did with Arizona.

Athey49
12-02-2022, 11:34 AM
The best move for San Fran is to eat up clock and have their offense on the field as little as possible. Miami is beatable, and with Armstead coming back should help Bosa and Jackson off the edge

I need Jimmy G to have a repeat game as he did with Arizona.

Thinking this could be a big Kittle game

49erRCCollector
12-02-2022, 01:34 PM
Thinking this could be a big Kittle game

I saw something how Miami ranks near dead last defending TEs.

Would love to see a big George game since I think we get a lot of untested Jordan Mason in the run game. Hopefully that offsets.

Sounds like Armstead is a go, which I think makes this defense better.

oplum29
12-03-2022, 07:59 PM
I saw something how Miami ranks near dead last defending TEs.

Would love to see a big George game since I think we get a lot of untested Jordan Mason in the run game. Hopefully that offsets.

Sounds like Armstead is a go, which I think makes this defense better.

Armstead coming back is going to be huge for us. we've been awesome these last couple of games defensively, while missing our starting interior defensive linemen and our starting CB. now we're getting Double A back....let's go.

hopefully Kinlaw is coming back soon too.

49erRCCollector
12-03-2022, 09:20 PM
hopefully Kinlaw is coming back soon too.

That's the rumor.

anusinha
12-04-2022, 12:00 AM
Going to be wet here tomorrow, should slow Miami down a bit and help out our defense.

oplum29
12-04-2022, 12:49 PM
Going to be wet here tomorrow, should slow Miami down a bit and help out our defense.

Miami has both their starting OTs out for the game...hopefully the 49ers take advantage of that and really go after Tua, because those two WRs he has, Hill and Waddle, are really good.

i'm just hoping that:

1- we come out healthy
2- we win the game

that's it.

Bang Bang Niner Gang baby!

oplum29
12-04-2022, 04:39 PM
JimmyG...always breaks your heart man

https://media3.giphy.com/media/3oz8xUK8V7suY7W9SE/giphy.gif

oplum29
12-04-2022, 04:39 PM
can we trade for Nick Foles?

oplum29
12-04-2022, 05:30 PM
on that 4th down try, CMC was WIDE OPEN, and i mean WIDE OPEN....and Purdy went to Aiyuk and it was intercepted.

i hope we can pull out this win, but our Super Bowl hopes are pretty much dashed at this point. my god was a heart breaker. couldn't happen to any other team than the 49ers, year in and year out. once we got Kyle, we've had so much hope and we've had good seasons, but the injuries are just brutal.

and i'm not saying this as a 49ers fan, but as a football fan overall, i don't ever recall a team being destroyed by injuries the way the 49ers have since Shanahan took over.

Siberian13
12-04-2022, 05:31 PM
on that 4th down try, CMC was WIDE OPEN, and i mean WIDE OPEN....and Purdy went to Aiyuk and it was intercepted.

i hope we can pull out this win, but our Super Bowl hopes are pretty much dashed at this point. my god was a heart breaker. couldn't happen to any other team than the 49ers, year in and year out. once we got Kyle, we've had so much hope and we've had good seasons, but the injuries are just brutal.

and i'm not saying this as a 49ers fan, but as a football fan overall, i don't ever recall a team being destroyed by injuries the way the 49ers have since Shanahan took over.

Go Chargers Go. Must be the water or air in Cali

oplum29
12-04-2022, 05:41 PM
Purdy two TD passes...Niners up at the half! let's go baby!

anusinha
12-04-2022, 07:19 PM
Let the Brock Purdy Era begin!

FBallHobbies
12-04-2022, 07:45 PM
DeMeco Ryans will be a HC next year
Hate to see him go
Hell of a win against Miami.
Was going the Rams pulled the upset over Seattle

BonVoyage
12-04-2022, 08:21 PM
HUGE win but it feels hollow with JG out for the season.

Saw on Twitter Shan was already asked about Lance and said they weren’t activating him. Guess that means rolling with Mr Irrelevant in the playoffs.

Wonder what this does to JG’s market in the off-season. Maybe keeps his price tag low enough the Niners have a chance?

oplum29
12-04-2022, 08:25 PM
i'm a firm believer, that Garoppolo and Tony Romo were cut from the same cloth. you loved and hated them, but you loved them a little more because they were your QB, but they just couldn't stay healthy or win the big one.

man this sucks...it's such a brutal blow to a 49ers team that has a terrible history of trying to stay healthy under Coach Shanahan.

but we'll play with Purdy and hope that him going up against the top defense in the NFL will aid him the rest of the way.

also hoping we can add a backup that can help us out. i'm all for Nick Foles.

picojim
12-04-2022, 09:18 PM
also hoping we can add a backup that can help us out. i'm all for Nick Foles.

just signed Josh Johnson

Archangel1775
12-04-2022, 09:27 PM
SOB......Trade future draft picks for Tom Brady please. Everything else is pretty much in place for a SB run!

Archangel1775
12-04-2022, 09:29 PM
HUGE win but it feels hollow with JG out for the season.

Saw on Twitter Shan was already asked about Lance and said they weren’t activating him. Guess that means rolling with Mr Irrelevant in the playoffs.

Wonder what this does to JG’s market in the off-season. Maybe keeps his price tag low enough the Niners have a chance?

Defensive Coordinators are gonna feast on him by the end of the regular season.

BonVoyage
12-04-2022, 09:47 PM
Defensive Coordinators are gonna feast on him by the end of the regular season.

They’re gonna test the heck of him, that’s for sure. Shanahan’s gotta find a way to get the ball in to playmakers hands quick.

Sea licking their chops now to catch the Niners for the Div title.

Shan said JG went home just after halftime. Wonder if he plans to be around to help Purdy at all or if he’s checked out.

Archangel1775
12-04-2022, 11:22 PM
I just looked at the free agent list. There isn't much going on there except Cam Newton.

FBallHobbies
12-04-2022, 11:24 PM
They’re gonna test the heck of him, that’s for sure. Shanahan’s gotta find a way to get the ball in to playmakers hands quick.

Sea licking their chops now to catch the Niners for the Div title.

Shan said JG went home just after halftime. Wonder if he plans to be around to help Purdy at all or if he’s checked out.

Seattle still has to play the Chiefs and Jets along with San Fran. I feel like Seattle has a tougher road to win the division than San Fran does.

I feel like if Brock can finish the year 3-2, that will be good enough for the 3 seed

oplum29
12-04-2022, 11:36 PM
SOB......Trade future draft picks for Tom Brady please. Everything else is pretty much in place for a SB run!

that's what makes this thing so brutal man....these football Gods man, i tell you.

the Cowboys are healthy, and playing the garbage Colts, Texans, and Jags three weeks in a row, the 49ers just lost their QB1 and QB2 in the same season.

:doh:

BonVoyage
12-04-2022, 11:39 PM
Seattle still has to play the Chiefs and Jets along with San Fran. I feel like Seattle has a tougher road to win the division than San Fran does.

I feel like if Brock can finish the year 3-2, that will be good enough for the 3 seed

Didn’t know Seattle still had KC&NYJ on the schedule. Would probably take a total collapse by Purdy then for Seattle take catch SF. Hopefully he doesn’t end up like Beathard/Mullens, who were a combined 6-20 with SF.

oplum29
12-04-2022, 11:43 PM
Didn’t know Seattle still had KC&NYJ on the schedule. Would probably take a total collapse by Purdy then for Seattle take catch SF. Hopefully he doesn’t end up like Beathard/Mullens, who were a combined 6-20 with SF.

man i am so torn about what happened to Garoppolo, he's literally a Greek tragedy. he's everything Shakespear wrote about in his tragedies. Romeo and Juliet, Hamlet, Othello, Julius Cesar, and JimmyG

my god...life can be so cruel. :(

anusinha
12-04-2022, 11:44 PM
that's what makes this thing so brutal man....these football Gods man, i tell you.

the Cowboys are healthy, and playing the garbage Colts, Texans, and Jags three weeks in a row, the 49ers just lost their QB1 and QB2 in the same season.

:doh:

Didnt Dak get injured the first part of the season? They kept on trucking, so will we.

FBallHobbies
12-05-2022, 12:11 AM
Didnt Dak get injured the first part of the season? They kept on trucking, so will we.

Dallas never had Mr. Irrelevant at QB

San Fran will still do some damage

oplum29
12-05-2022, 12:24 AM
Didnt Dak get injured the first part of the season? They kept on trucking, so will we.

Dak missed 5 games, have an easy schedule, and aren't SB contenders.

blockedbyjames
12-05-2022, 10:15 AM
Dak missed 5 games, have an easy schedule, and aren't SB contenders.

They absolutely are SB contenders. I'm excited to see what the 9ers can make of this situation. It'll be a perfect case study to find out if skill position players can overcome teams with less skill and a franchise QB.

BonVoyage
12-05-2022, 10:24 AM
Dal went 4-1 with Cooper Rush. Wins over Cin, NYG, Wash, LAR, lost to Philly. Wins were mostly driven by their Defense, they averaged 21.4ppg with Rush which would be 18th in the league if over a full season.
I don't think it really matters how Purdy does for the rest of the regular season, they're not winning the SB with him.

Siberian13
12-05-2022, 10:51 AM
Yeah I don’t see Purdy taking this team far. They’ll make the playoffs and then lose to Dallas or something in the first round. Would be cool to see him take them far though. Would be a good story

BGT Masters
12-05-2022, 11:07 AM
Baker Mayfield San Fran bound?

BonVoyage
12-05-2022, 11:28 AM
Yeah I don’t see Purdy taking this team far. They’ll make the playoffs and then lose to Dallas or something in the first round. Would be cool to see him take them far though. Would be a good story

If Purdy can go something like 3-2 SF will probably still end up with the 3 seed and face NYG/WASH/SEA, who the Defense could beat in the First Round. Dallas will probably get matched up with the 4 seed which it looks like will be whoever backs in to the NFC South title.
Round 2 is where I see SF going out. They'll probably face the Vikings then.

JeremyNick
12-05-2022, 11:53 AM
Man this sucks for the 9ers.

This season is an L. They are no closer to having an idea what they have in Lance and Jimmy G is all but gone.

Boo
12-05-2022, 11:53 AM
Baker Mayfield San Fran bound?

Hopefully!

Astros19
12-05-2022, 02:52 PM
I'm an Iowa fan but watched a lot of Iowa State games.
He's no Montana but I think you guys might be surprise a little bit. He wasn't too bad, just inconsistent.
As a Cowboys fan I hope he's good, but not great.

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kluke84
12-05-2022, 03:04 PM
Baker Mayfield San Fran bound?

'Since the stat has been tracked, Baker Mayfield has a QBR of 18.2 in 2022. That ranks 520 out of 521 qualifying players since the Stat began being tracked in 2006'.

Thinking the 49ers are best sticking with Purdy and Josh Johnson. The rest of the pieces are there to go on a run.

Grid
12-05-2022, 03:27 PM
'Since the stat has been tracked, Baker Mayfield has a QBR of 18.2 in 2022. That ranks 520 out of 521 qualifying players since the Stat began being tracked in 2006'.

Thinking the 49ers are best sticking with Purdy and Josh Johnson. The rest of the pieces are there to go on a run.

Id take Baker in a heartbeat, as back up if Purdy (who at least knows the system) doesn't do well.

JJ was a panic grab for them. Off another teams practice squad, and just look at how he has bounced around:

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2008–2011)
San Francisco 49ers (2012)*
Sacramento Mountain Lions (2012)
Cleveland Browns (2012)
Cincinnati Bengals (2013)
San Francisco 49ers (2014)*
Cincinnati Bengals (2015)*
New York Jets (2015)*
Indianapolis Colts (2015)
Buffalo Bills (2015)
Baltimore Ravens (2016)*
New York Giants (2016)
Houston Texans (2017)
Oakland Raiders (2018)*
Washington Redskins (2018)
San Diego Fleet (2019)
Detroit Lions (2019)*
Los Angeles Wildcats (2020)
San Francisco 49ers (2020–2021)*
New York Jets (2021)
Baltimore Ravens (2021)
Denver Broncos (2022)
San Francisco 49ers (2022–present)

Siberian13
12-05-2022, 03:58 PM
If Purdy can go something like 3-2 SF will probably still end up with the 3 seed and face NYG/WASH/SEA, who the Defense could beat in the First Round. Dallas will probably get matched up with the 4 seed which it looks like will be whoever backs in to the NFC South title.
Round 2 is where I see SF going out. They'll probably face the Vikings then.

Definitely could see them beating NYG. They might struggle against WASH. SEA would be interesting. Guess it depends on if SEA wins the division then they could be playing a n the road against the 2 or 3 seed.

BGT Masters
12-05-2022, 04:19 PM
'Since the stat has been tracked, Baker Mayfield has a QBR of 18.2 in 2022. That ranks 520 out of 521 qualifying players since the Stat began being tracked in 2006'.

Thinking the 49ers are best sticking with Purdy and Josh Johnson. The rest of the pieces are there to go on a run.

I'm not saying he is the next coming of Montana or Young but considering where they are at it wouldn't be a horrible idea to bring him in. Oh and QBR is a garbage stat so I could not careless about it. I'd take him over Josh Johnson that is for sure.

rms13
12-05-2022, 04:31 PM
I'm an Iowa fan but watched a lot of Iowa State games.
He's no Montana but I think you guys might be surprise a little bit. He wasn't too bad, just inconsistent.
As a Cowboys fan I hope he's good, but not great.

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He is interesting. He missed most of his Jr year in high school which hurt his college recruiting but he did eventually get a full scholarship offer from Alabama so he must have some talent. I'm a Pats fan so I can say he definitely looked a lot better than Mac Jones yesterday. He looked confident and in the 49ers offense all you have to be able to do is make quick, short, accurate passes. He probably can't be much worse then Jimmy G. The whole NFC seems up for grabs when you get past Eagles so I wouldn't be shocked to see the 49ers in the Super Bowl. They have made two Super Bowls in recent history with bums playing QB so they've done it before

Archangel1775
12-05-2022, 05:04 PM
I'm not saying he is the next coming of Montana or Young but considering where they are at it wouldn't be a horrible idea to bring him in. Oh and QBR is a garbage stat so I could not careless about it. I'd take him over Josh Johnson that is for sure.

Don't confuse leadership, wisdom and a realistic chance to win a game with attitude and swag. It may be a fit for depth and if both Purdy and JJ go down but I'd take my chances on Eason(practice squad) than a new QB in a new system at the end of the year. Also, CM23 could have an issue with it. Is Baker good for the locker room?

49erRCCollector
12-05-2022, 06:55 PM
I'm OK rolling with Purdy. there's no available FA who will come in and get the system and be a massive upgrade this late in the season.

people on the radio talking about Cam, Rivers, Baker. Get real.

Plus I rewatched Purdy's plays. the BA interception where Howard had the inside position on the route wasn't great but otherwise he threw with zip, with touch when needed. He felt calm and in control and that is without first team reps.

Against an elite pass rush, he could get rattled... but... maybe they can mitigate that with quick reads and the run game.

BonVoyage
12-05-2022, 07:30 PM
I'm OK rolling with Purdy. there's no available FA who will come in and get the system and be a massive upgrade this late in the season.

people on the radio talking about Cam, Rivers, Baker. Get real.

Plus I rewatched Purdy's plays. the BA interception where Howard had the inside position on the route wasn't great but otherwise he threw with zip, with touch when needed. He felt calm and in control and that is without first team reps.

Against an elite pass rush, he could get rattled... but... maybe they can mitigate that with quick reads and the run game.

He kinda sounds like JG-lite, or JG-without-experience. Quick release, generally accurate, confident, doesn’t have a big arm.

Reading TK’s Athletic article today, sounds like Shan slightly walked back his Lance comments. In the post game he said No Way and moved on when someone asked about Lance coming back but TK followed up with him later and Shan said “I’ve been told no. Not physically able to. If he could, hell yeah”

49erRCCollector
12-05-2022, 07:52 PM
He kinda sounds like JG-lite, or JG-without-experience. Quick release, generally accurate, confident, doesn’t have a big arm.

Reading TK’s Athletic article today, sounds like Shan slightly walked back his Lance comments. In the post game he said No Way and moved on when someone asked about Lance coming back but TK followed up with him later and Shan said “I’ve been told no. Not physically able to. If he could, hell yeah”

That sounds like a fair assessment.

BonVoyage
12-05-2022, 09:53 PM
They’re gonna test the heck of him, that’s for sure. Shanahan’s gotta find a way to get the ball in to playmakers hands quick.

Sea licking their chops now to catch the Niners for the Div title.

Shan said JG went home just after halftime. Wonder if he plans to be around to help Purdy at all or if he’s checked out.

Answering my own question, Jimmy was in team meetings today

mfw13
12-05-2022, 09:56 PM
Purdy is the next Nick Foles.....

Archangel1775
12-05-2022, 09:57 PM
Purdy is the next Nick Foles.....

Foles already had 4-5 years of experience on that SB run. That's a big difference.

oplum29
12-06-2022, 01:11 AM
the history of the NFL is filled with backup QBs coming in and winning SBs, not many, but there have been a handful of guys that have done it, like Doug Williams, Foles, Brady, and Jeff Hostetler. There are several others, but i forget all of them.

for these 49ers, they remind me a little bit of that 1990 NY Giants team that had an amazing defense, a solid running game, good coaches (one named Parcells and one named Belichick), and a QB who didn't make mistakes, and they ended up winning the SB that season with Jeff Hostetler.

i'm hoping the football gods will somehow reward us for all the garbage we've been through with injuries to this team

BonVoyage
12-07-2022, 04:55 PM
Possible JG return?? First rd of playoffs are 6 weeks away, his injury could heal in 7-8 weeks since its not Lisfranc. Seems like a long shot, but ya never know!

Siberian13
12-07-2022, 05:07 PM
Possible JG return?? First rd of playoffs are 6 weeks away, his injury could heal in 7-8 weeks since its not Lisfranc. Seems like a long shot, but ya never know!

Seems like a bad idea to throw him out there as soon as he gets back. But who knows.

BonVoyage
12-07-2022, 05:15 PM
Seems like a bad idea to throw him out there as soon as he gets back. But who knows.

I agree. Seems like the only way they try it is if Purdy is absolutely stinking it up and they're only winning because of their defense.
Wonder if JG will be motivated to try to rush back or thinks its best for his future to play it safe.

oplum29
12-10-2022, 01:21 PM
i hate to say this, but JimmyG did this to himself.

i love the dude, but he's always making some bone headed plays, and while sometimes he gets away with some, this time he didn't.

he should have recognize the blitz, thrown the ball away, or even just taken a knee if he had too, because that's something Brady would have done.

it's why Brady is 45 and still playing, and JimmyG has had his regular season end on the IR 3 of his 6 seasons with the 49ers.

it would be an amazing story if he came back in the playoffs and won a Super Bowl as the starter, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. in the meantime, we're riding with Brock Purdy.

49erRCCollector
12-10-2022, 03:17 PM
i hate to say this, but JimmyG did this to himself.

i love the dude, but he's always making some bone headed plays, and while sometimes he gets away with some, this time he didn't.

he should have recognize the blitz, thrown the ball away, or even just taken a knee if he had too, because that's something Brady would have done.

it's why Brady is 45 and still playing, and JimmyG has had his regular season end on the IR 3 of his 6 seasons with the 49ers.

it would be an amazing story if he came back in the playoffs and won a Super Bowl as the starter, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. in the meantime, we're riding with Brock Purdy.

I thought the same thing when I saw that play. Take the sack. Live to fight another day.

christhecpa
12-10-2022, 03:50 PM
I like the rookie but going to need a vet to get anywhere in the playoffs.

I would not be surprised if we start hearing rumors of Kaepernick getting secret workouts to see how much he has left.

oplum29
12-11-2022, 12:09 PM
really wish we could add a reliable free agent QB like Matt Ryan. i trust in Purdy, but i don't trust in the health of these 49ers, just based off our injury history.

hopefully Purdy can hold up physically the rest of the season, because we've got pretty much playoff teams from here out- Miami, Tampa, Seattle, and Washington...then the Raiders and Cards, and then playoff time.

my goodness, talk about sink or swim for Mr. Irrelevant

anusinha
12-11-2022, 01:25 PM
really wish we could add a reliable free agent QB like Matt Ryan. i trust in Purdy, but i don't trust in the health of these 49ers, just based off our injury history.

hopefully Purdy can hold up physically the rest of the season, because we've got pretty much playoff teams from here out- Miami, Tampa, Seattle, and Washington...then the Raiders and Cards, and then playoff time.

my goodness, talk about sink or swim for Mr. Irrelevant

Seattle is really the only tough game. Bucs are overrated from playing in a chump division, and our D should keep Brady uncomfortable, especially in the wet rain today

oplum29
12-11-2022, 04:24 PM
Tampa has a good defense....and of course, Tom Brady.

i'm not too worried about Seattle, i'm more worried about the injuries. i hope Purdy is as tough as Drew Brees was in New Orleans, because we need him.

Siberian13
12-11-2022, 07:36 PM
Purdy looked good. Defense looked good. Losing Deebo sucks though. Seattle losing means the fictions is yours. Congrats.

oplum29
12-11-2022, 07:50 PM
i'm more worried about the injuries.

:doh:

big win today. we finally have a QB!!!!!!! this is awesome. and then, we loose Deebo. idk how to feel. i'm happy, but i'm sad too.

hopefully the injury isn't too bad, was reading maybe an ankle sprain and back by the playoffs.

oplum29
12-11-2022, 08:01 PM
NFC West is ours Thursday when we beat Seattle....

Archangel1775
12-12-2022, 03:27 AM
:doh:

big win today. we finally have a QB!!!!!!! this is awesome. and then, we loose Deebo. idk how to feel. i'm happy, but i'm sad too.

hopefully the injury isn't too bad, was reading maybe an ankle sprain and back by the playoffs.

Seeing serious ankle sprain too, thankfully.

FBallHobbies
12-12-2022, 08:23 AM
San Fran is due for 1 trap game.

Maybe it already happened this year. My guess is the game against the Commanders. That being said, Seattle has 3 loses at home this year and San Fran should make it 4 on Thursday night.

That leaves home vs Washington, @ Las Vegas and home vs Arizona. 49ers stay on PST for the rest of the season

Hopefully Deebo comes back for the playoff run. If Purdy continues to play well, I do not see how you start Jimmy G over him in the playoffs

But nothing makes me happier than Seattle losing, who still has to face KC as well. Hoping that game buries them down the standings and keeps them out of the WC

BonVoyage
12-12-2022, 09:22 AM
I thought Purdy got a little lucky, but good QBs seem to to get lucky often enough maybe that's just the IT factor.
Shanahan was AGGRESSIVE with Purdy. He could've packed it in when they got the ball back with 2:30 left before halftime. But they got that first first down running twice and Shan seemed to decide to go for it, dials up a pass on the next play and Aiyuk gets 25yds when the TB defender doesn't keep Aiyuk in front of him. At that point I'm thinking 'Nice, they'll steal a FG here' but Shan keeps calling throws, and even after Purdy makes that terrible decision on the INT Shan goes right back to a double move for the TD.
Just before the Deebo injury I was saying to myself 'Shanahan is going to get McCaffrey hurt getting him so many touches in what's shaping up to be a blowout'. Mason didn't get his first touch until it was 35-0. Rice had some choice words for Shanahan after the injury too. Hopefully its something Deebo can come back from for the playoffs.

If the Niners can win out, I think they'll overtake MN for the 2 seed. MN has another NFC loss in them somewhere.
I still think beating the Eagles in PHI will be too tough, and the AFC is stacked this year. But if they can make it to the NFC championship with Purdy, that'll be essentially 8 full games experience for him.

49erRCCollector
12-12-2022, 12:56 PM
I do think the Niners got bailed out on a few plays but mostly, Purdy looked really good. Like REALLY good. This is the best the QB position has looked since Shanahan's been here, save maybe that 5-game stretch in 2017 when Jimmy lit it up. Jimmy plays so conservatively that me seeing a QB sling it made me nervous, but you realize that's how some big plays come out of the QB position. It's still early though. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Deebo is most valuable in the role he has, which is reciever, yes, but also being an "offensive weapon". Aiyuk is a more natural pure receiver.

I still have no idea what this team is. I think it depends week-to-week, but I don't think most teams would feel good about playing the 49ers. Maybe the Chiefs feel good about it.

I hope they can close out the Division Thursday. I don't care about the seeding as much, though a home game would be ideal.

oplum29
12-14-2022, 01:26 AM
I do think the Niners got bailed out on a few plays but mostly, Purdy looked really good. Like REALLY good. This is the best the QB position has looked since Shanahan's been here, save maybe that 5-game stretch in 2017 when Jimmy lit it up. Jimmy plays so conservatively that me seeing a QB sling it made me nervous, but you realize that's how some big plays come out of the QB position. It's still early though. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Deebo is most valuable in the role he has, which is reciever, yes, but also being an "offensive weapon". Aiyuk is a more natural pure receiver.

I still have no idea what this team is. I think it depends week-to-week, but I don't think most teams would feel good about playing the 49ers. Maybe the Chiefs feel good about it.

I hope they can close out the Division Thursday. I don't care about the seeding as much, though a home game would be ideal.

the only thing this team was missing and has been missing, was a QB. JimmyG is good, but he was limited in his game. he doesn't have that second gear that separates the good to awesome QBs.

Purdy seems to be a major difference maker. that one play against Tampa when he avoided the sack, threw off the back foot and hit Deebo for 20, was just awesome. i haven't seen QB play like that in 10 years.

it's only two games, but man, Purdy brought back memories of Jeff Garcia to me. if this kid can come through and play the way he's played so far, we're going to win the Super Bowl. we've got the defense, we've got the coach, the gm, the owner, and finally, we have a difference maker at QB.

Bang Bang Niner Gang!

oplum29
12-14-2022, 01:28 AM
San Fran is due for 1 trap game.

Maybe it already happened this year. My guess is the game against the Commanders. That being said, Seattle has 3 loses at home this year and San Fran should make it 4 on Thursday night.

That leaves home vs Washington, @ Las Vegas and home vs Arizona. 49ers stay on PST for the rest of the season

i honestly don't think we're losing again until maybe Arizona, which would be a game for the backups, since we'll have the 3, maybe the 2 locked up by then.

but we're not losing to Seattle, Washington is decent, but our defense isn't losing to Taylor Heineke, and the Raiders will be a tough game, but i trust Kyle as HC over McDaniels at HC.

oplum29
12-14-2022, 01:32 AM
I thought Purdy got a little lucky, but good QBs seem to to get lucky often enough maybe that's just the IT factor.
Shanahan was AGGRESSIVE with Purdy. He could've packed it in when they got the ball back with 2:30 left before halftime. But they got that first first down running twice and Shan seemed to decide to go for it, dials up a pass on the next play and Aiyuk gets 25yds when the TB defender doesn't keep Aiyuk in front of him. At that point I'm thinking 'Nice, they'll steal a FG here' but Shan keeps calling throws, and even after Purdy makes that terrible decision on the INT Shan goes right back to a double move for the TD.
Just before the Deebo injury I was saying to myself 'Shanahan is going to get McCaffrey hurt getting him so many touches in what's shaping up to be a blowout'. Mason didn't get his first touch until it was 35-0. Rice had some choice words for Shanahan after the injury too. Hopefully its something Deebo can come back from for the playoffs.

If the Niners can win out, I think they'll overtake MN for the 2 seed. MN has another NFC loss in them somewhere.
I still think beating the Eagles in PHI will be too tough, and the AFC is stacked this year. But if they can make it to the NFC championship with Purdy, that'll be essentially 8 full games experience for him.

couple of things:

1- we were playing Tom Brady, and Shanahan wasn't going to risk blowing a lead, so he played CMC a little longer than expected.
2- the fact that Shanahan was that aggressive with Purdy when he's not like that with JimmyG, speaks VOLUMES. to me, he wanted to test Purdy to see if he could run a two minute offense, and he also i think was having fun with Purdy. it seems like he feels like he's finally got the guy he's always wanted, a real game changer.

Archangel1775
12-15-2022, 07:37 PM
Let's do this!

Pretty sure I just jinxed them now

49erRCCollector
12-15-2022, 07:44 PM
Let’s go!!!!!

Archangel1775
12-16-2022, 12:54 AM
NFC West Champions!!! Now let’s see who chokes the rest of the regular season!

Hopefully not us!!

BonVoyage
12-16-2022, 02:05 AM
Nice win, not an easy place to play. Awful roughing the passer call. Shan need to chill on his CMC usage - 34 touches out of 61 team plays is way too much. I didn’t get to watch every play but Purdy’s line seems JG-ish. Easily could’ve had another INT.