***49ers 2022 thread- the time to win is now***

[oplum29]

our 2021 season has ended, and i'm over the heartache.

what a run it was. we battled injuries galore, we found playmakers, our offensive guys stayed pretty healthy most of the season, and we made a successful transition from one defensive coordinator to the next.

i really thought we were going to the Super Bowl. the way the team came together reminded me so much of a combination of the NY Giants in 2007 with the defense, and 2011 with Deebo playing the Victor Cruz role.

God Bless Deebo....man what a football player. we don't get this far without his spirit, honestly. he carried this team. i hate seeing him fall short of a Super Bowl, especially when nothing is guaranteed.

that's life i guess, it can really suck sometimes.

but we're on to 2022.

this team is built to win right now. with a tweak here and there, we should be right back in contention next season.

one of the things i remember from the last time we won the Super Bowl, many moons ago, i remember after the Dallas loss in the NFC Title Game, how EddieD said "this will never happen again", and then proceeded to go out and bring in a number of vets who helped us get over Dallas and win the Super Bowl. also, a nice draft rounded out the team that kept us in contention for the next 5 seasons.

i don't think we make moves like that, but it hurts to see what the Rams did, and how it paid off, and the moves we didn't make (passing on Brady and Stafford), and how it didn't pay off.

we cannot waste the prime years of Kittle, Bosa, Aiyuk, Deebo, Warner, Greenlaw, Armstead, and Jimmie Ward...the time is now!

and since we've never really had an official 49ers thread, i'll start this one for 49er fans to vent/talk.

Go Niners!!!!

[Archangel1775]

It's Trey Lance's time. I'm excited to see what he can do.

[SleeperCards]

How long until you're calling them trash and wishing to be a Lions fan? Week 6?

[FBallHobbies]

Jimmy G is as good as gone. Nobody in their right minds would trade for him with the 3 game playoff performance he had, so they will cut him (hopefully) $24 mill saved in the books

Compton was not looking good on the right side of the line since McGlinchey went down earlier in the season so I am hoping San Fran address that. Terron Armstead could fix that BUT he will command a ton of money which Lynch does not want to do.

Deebo is coming on the final year of his rookie contract. Lock him up immediately. Do not wait for him to test the open market.

Move on from Dee Ford. 9.5 sacks in 3 years since trading for him. My goodness he cannot stay on the field. 1 good year should remind GM's to not pay top 5 money for that. He also prevented Mahomes from making the SB that year lining up offsides so theres that for him


Matheiu is a FA as well, and certainly an upgrade over Tartt at the S position. Do I want it to happen, hell yes. Is it realistic, probably not. KC loves him and they will do what they need to and re-sign him

Armstead needs to get that contract restructured. I get he has shown up in the playoffs, but what happens if San Fran doesnt make the playoffs/ Getting paid all that money for nothing

My ideal signings that I would like to team to have are:

Orlando Brown Jr - (McGlinchey is back on a 5th year team option and think he should move to Guard. Also if Orlando is okay with playing RT instead of LT)

Chances: .00001/10 - Orlando will command big money this offseason and get it too. A lot of teams need a LT and will guess the Bengals make a push to sign him and lock up Bates long term. They have money to spend and need to protect Burrow

Tyrann Matheiu - Still a top safety in the NFL and 99.99% sure he would have made the INT that Tartt dropped in the 4th quarter to potentially put the game away. Chiefs have about $14 mill in cap space and cannot sign everyone

Chances: 5/10

Dalton Schultz - Dallas is well over the cap and have too much money invested in their offense which sputtered in the Wild Card game. Jerry needs to trim some money and resigning Dalton will not be a priority for them. It also gives Kittle some help as both are great in the passing game and can help utilize 2 TE sets. I like Gesicki more but Miami has $70 mill in cap space and will for sure resign him

Chances: 6/10

Curious to see how FA and the draft pans out. Do not have a pick on Day 1. Hopefully Kinlaw and McGlinchey come back better than ever for 2022.

[sethc1020]

Now the question becomes, is Trey Lance the answer? If they are not sold thats a 10000% yes they should make a strong push for Aaron Rodgers (as much as I hate to say it). He grew up in the bay area and always wanted to play there so its a perfect fit for both sides.

[FBallHobbies]

Originally Posted by sethc1020

Now the question becomes, is Trey Lance the answer? If they are not sold thats a 10000% yes they should make a strong push for Aaron Rodgers (as much as I hate to say it). He grew up in the bay area and always wanted to play there so its a perfect fit for both sides.

Money is the biggest issue on that end.

Green Bay is not going to just cut Rodgers and not get anything in return. He has a $46 mill cap hit. Denver is the team willing to leave it all on the table and only make the move for him

[Athey49]

What a tough way to end it. This is why I was so against that blockbuster trade for Lance last year..if we're built to win, why do we have an unproven QB starting? I'd love for another QB to start next year and let Lance sit one more year.

I don't remember the last time I enjoyed watching a player as much as I did Deebo this year

Damn you Tarrt! What a back breaker that play was

[Athey49]

Originally Posted by FBallHobbies

Money is the biggest issue on that end.

Green Bay is not going to just cut Rodgers and not get anything in return. He has a $46 mill cap hit. Denver is the team willing to leave it all on the table and only make the move for him

And after the Lance trade, we don't have many valuable picks to trade

[2010GBPackers]

Welcome to the club, San Fran! Both of our franchises tried to get cute with "playing for now and playing for the future" at the same time. Doesn't work. For the rest of you NFL fans, you better hope your team doesn't waste a 1st round pick on an unproven QB (or more in San Fran's case) when the rest of your team is in win-now mode. Man, the 49er's roster was/is stacked and they traded away two 1sts and a 3rd - JUST TO MOVE UP TO 3 AND TAKE LANCE!!!!!

That's an epic fail.

I'm not even sure what he'd have to do to call it even, but it's a lot.

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

How long until you're calling them trash and wishing to be a Lions fan? Week 6?

get over it dude. let it go.

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by Athey49

What a tough way to end it. This is why I was so against that blockbuster trade for Lance last year..if we're built to win, why do we have an unproven QB starting? I'd love for another QB to start next year and let Lance sit one more year.

I don't remember the last time I enjoyed watching a player as much as I did Deebo this year

Damn you Tarrt! What a back breaker that play was

i agree. i really do like Trey Lance, and i'm excited to see what he can do, but honestly, i think we overpaid for him.

time will tell, who knows right? i know people were in shock when KC made that huge jump up to get Mahomes back in 2017, passing on Deshaun Watson in the process.

but i like Trey, we'll see how it works out. in the meantime, honestly, in a fantasy world, we get Rodgers or Brady to come over for a year and sub in Lance a game here and there, but that's all a pipe dream.

as for free agents, i think we have 27....holy moly...27!

i think we let the following players walk:

Verrett
Mostert
Josh Norman
Dwelley
Sanu
Tartt
Compton
Hurst
Sherfield
Richie James

we've got to keep:
Laken Tomlinson
DJ Jones
Arden Key
Jordan Willis
Jauan Williams

Maybe:
K'Waun Williams
Brunskill
Dontae Johnson
Jeff Wilson
Kevin Givens

and yes please, get rid of Dee Ford and let Jimmy go also.

need to address the right side of the o-line, linebacker depth, and for the love of God, the secondary please.

[shootit]

so this is what depression feels like

[FBallHobbies]

Originally Posted by shootit

so this is what depression feels like

You must be looking for the Detroit Lions thread

[oplum29]

i will admit that i'm a bit torn over the QB situation right now.

i'm honestly excited to see what Trey Lance can do, but also torn about letting JimmyG go, even though it's the right thing to do.

i look at what teams in the past have done with QBs who couldn't get them over the hump, and they always seemed to upgrade the entire team more than the QB spot, especially if they were close.

there is a fear that Lance isn't an upgrade over JimmyG, and it's going to cost us the prime years of Kittle, Deebo, Warner, and Bosa to name a few. meanwhile, going for a guy like Aaron Rodgers who if somehow we could get, would be our version of going from Goff to Stafford.

that uncertainty is scary for a team so close to winning a Super Bowl. People drool over the Chiefs, but the 49ers are right there too, Garoppolo's health was the x-factor in those couple of lost seasons.

i was reading a bunch of comments on youtube today after watching Jimmy's final press conference as a 49er, and that seemed to be the sentiment- thank you Jimmy, and i hope we don't make a mistake.

i hope Kyle and Lynch know what they are doing, because we've got the team to win it all. this isn't a fluke team, a one year wonder.

[gocubs09]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

How long until you're calling them trash and wishing to be a Lions fan? Week 6?

My guess is week 4

[duwal]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

It's Trey Lance's time. I'm excited to see what he can do.

It's Trey Lance's time, they'll go down to winning 6 or 7 games and possibly last in the division

[FBallHobbies]

Originally Posted by oplum29

i will admit that i'm a bit torn over the QB situation right now.

i'm honestly excited to see what Trey Lance can do, but also torn about letting JimmyG go, even though it's the right thing to do.

i look at what teams in the past have done with QBs who couldn't get them over the hump, and they always seemed to upgrade the entire team more than the QB spot, especially if they were close.

there is a fear that Lance isn't an upgrade over JimmyG, and it's going to cost us the prime years of Kittle, Deebo, Warner, and Bosa to name a few. meanwhile, going for a guy like Aaron Rodgers who if somehow we could get, would be our version of going from Goff to Stafford.

that uncertainty is scary for a team so close to winning a Super Bowl. People drool over the Chiefs, but the 49ers are right there too, Garoppolo's health was the x-factor in those couple of lost seasons.

i was reading a bunch of comments on youtube today after watching Jimmy's final press conference as a 49er, and that seemed to be the sentiment- thank you Jimmy, and i hope we don't make a mistake.

i hope Kyle and Lynch know what they are doing, because we've got the team to win it all. this isn't a fluke team, a one year wonder.

The combination of Garoppolo/Shanahan is costing this team their prime years

Shanahan cannot hold a lead to save his life

Go as far back to the 2016 SB, called for a pass play on 3rd down just to get sacked and go out of field goal range

2019 SB. 10 point lead

2021 NFCCG 10 point lead

Both 10 point leads going into the 4th quarter. Hell, had a 13 point lead on Dallas in the Wild Card game and a bad, incomplete throw from Jimmy where Kittle fumbled would have given Dallas great field position

I feel like Shanahan needs to go. He has become to predictable. The 3rd and 1 on Sunday when Trent Williams went in motion to give the quick handoff to Juszczyk was read a mile away

This team needs to make a push for Deshaun Watson or Rodgers.

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by FBallHobbies

This team needs to make a push for Deshaun Watson or Rodgers.

they did didn't they? But Houston wanted a king's ransom and GB hung up the phone.

i still think, if it's possible, we should go the nuclear route, and try to land Rodgers. there's no rush for Trey Lance.

this is a Super Bowl team right now, and we're going to be in dogfights with the Rams and Cards next year alone. forget the NFC, our own division is stacked.

i'm just afraid Lance is going to need those growing pains, and we'll take a step back. but i also look at the gutsy call that KC made, going from a contender who was a QB away from a Super Bowl, and finally letting go of Alex Smith and running with Mahomes.

it's got to give us some confidence going into next season right?

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by gocubs09

My guess is week 4

you all can say what you want, but from that rant onward, the 49ers went 10-4, and beat the Rams in week 18, down 17-0, and then beat the #3 ranked Cowboys, and #1 ranked Packers.

if it wasn't for these 49ers beating GB, the Packers, not the Rams, would have been in the Super Bowl, and that's the truth. the 49ers were to the Packers this year, what the Jaguars were to the Broncos back in 1996. and i believe i mentioned that in the other thread too.

[FBallHobbies]

Originally Posted by oplum29

they did didn't they? But Houston wanted a king's ransom and GB hung up the phone.

i still think, if it's possible, we should go the nuclear route, and try to land Rodgers. there's no rush for Trey Lance.

this is a Super Bowl team right now, and we're going to be in dogfights with the Rams and Cards next year alone. forget the NFC, our own division is stacked.

i'm just afraid Lance is going to need those growing pains, and we'll take a step back. but i also look at the gutsy call that KC made, going from a contender who was a QB away from a Super Bowl, and finally letting go of Alex Smith and running with Mahomes.

it's got to give us some confidence going into next season right?

I think the cardinals fall this year
They are over the cap, Chandler Jones is a FA. Watt cannot stay healthy. Kyler is a RW3....great 1st half of season, falls apart second half. Kingsbury has end of season collapses dating back to TTU

I feel like Lance needs 1 more year on the bench.

Like you said, the Rams aren't going anywhere and the NFC West runs through them for the foreseeable future

[roro17]

Rodgers will end up there and Lance will back him up for a year.

[gocubs09]

Originally Posted by oplum29

you all can say what you want, but from that rant onward, the 49ers went 10-4, and beat the Rams in week 18, down 17-0, and then beat the #3 ranked Cowboys, and #1 ranked Packers.

if it wasn't for these 49ers beating GB, the Packers, not the Rams, would have been in the Super Bowl, and that's the truth. the 49ers were to the Packers this year, what the Jaguars were to the Broncos back in 1996. and i believe i mentioned that in the other thread too.

if it wasn't for these 49ers choking to Rams, the 49ers, not the Rams, would have been in the Super Bowl, and that's the truth. the 49ers were to the 49ers this year, what the 49ers were in 2019, 2013, 2012, 2011.

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by roro17

Rodgers will end up there and Lance will back him up for a year.

i would love to see that happen. that would be one of the best things to happen to the team, and Lance too.

learn from one of the best. there's no rush with Lance, honestly there isn't.

[oplum29]

i read somewhere today that the 49ers at best, could get a 2nd round pick for JimmyG.

i wonder if that's a possibility or if a couple of thirds are more realistic.

i believe the 49ers got two 2's in the Alex Smith trade.

[FBallHobbies]

Originally Posted by oplum29

i read somewhere today that the 49ers at best, could get a 2nd round pick for JimmyG.

i wonder if that's a possibility or if a couple of thirds are more realistic.

i believe the 49ers got two 2's in the Alex Smith trade.

Correct

Original deal was a 2nd and a conditional pick that went from a 3rd to a 2nd

What would really help the 49ers if by trading Jimmy G, the team doesn't have to pay any money towards his salary

The team needs as much cap space as possible in order to pull Rodgers