2025 NFL Offseason Thread

[hairysasquatch]

Pretty badass that the Lions voted no on the ban, being a favorite in the NFC and playing the Eagles head-to-head this year.

My cousin married into a Lions household and lives in Detroit now. Her husband, a lifelong Lions fan, wants to come to the Lions / Eagles game in Philadelphia this year.

I told him probably best he didn't wear a Lions jersey to the game, but he said he's worn Lions gear at all the NFC North Division opponents' stadiums and never had any problems but for verbal sparring. But the Lions / Eagles is a 8:20pm start. The later the start, the rowdier the crowd, generally. I still have time to talk him out of it...

My only experience with Iggles football at Lincoln Financial was a preseason game back in '22 (I think) in August - rode the BSL down and a guy was pounding not a six-pack, but a TWELVE PACK. So yes, a very drunk crowd - but I think you should sit with your cousin's husband, let him wear the Lions jersey, and protect him from the mob!

[packman80]

Will we see any more post June 1st cuts tomorrow? CBA allows teams to make 2 cuts with a post June 1st designation and release them early in the off-season. Don't know if any teams used both there 2 June 1st cuts and will release more after June 1st.

[Siberian13]

Rodgers is back!

[Fenway55]

Rodgers is back!
Pitts-GB just got a heckuva lot more interesting in late October.... :coffee::coffee:

[Scottish Punk]

Rodgers is back!

Can't really be a surprise to anyone. As a Steeler fan, I was hoping we just rode with what we got. You don't go out and sign a DK Metcalf and not assume to get a better QB. There defense is setup to win this year and maybe next as well, so I get it from that point of view. I have said, that they will be all in this year. They have outs on all of their big contracts except DK, which has an out after next year. I can see Tomlin retiring, they trade/cut the big assets, Rodgers retires, and Steelers do a full reset.

[asujbl]

If a tree falls in the woods

[Siberian13]

Pitts-GB just got a heckuva lot more interesting in late October.... :coffee::coffee:

I think first game is vs jets and plays bears in November

[asujbl]

Pitts-GB just got a heckuva lot more interesting in late October.... :coffee::coffee:

Did it?

Green Bay is good

Pittsburgh is not

It’s on TV so I’ll watch it

So I guess that’s something

[Siberian13]

Did it?

Green Bay is good

Pittsburgh is not

It’s on TV so I’ll watch it

So I guess that’s something

I’d say both are just ok.

[Floridacardguy]

Pitts-GB just got a heckuva lot more interesting in late October.... :coffee::coffee:

It did but Rodgers will fall on his face there. He’s washed already and he will prove it and retire after one season with Steelers.

[asujbl]

I’d say both are just ok.

I was trying to be nice to the Jordan Love honks

[Siberian13]

CJ Stroud and AR15 both dealing with shoulder issues. Hopefully both are alright by start of season.

[asujbl]

CJ Stroud and AR15 both dealing with shoulder issues. Hopefully both are alright by start of season.

I don’t believe that you care about AR15

He sucks so it’s sort of irrelevant

Daniel Jones is better

[Siberian13]

I don’t believe that you care about AR15

He sucks so it’s sort of irrelevant

Daniel Jones is better

I mean I don’t really about any of them. I don’t know them. I do care about fantasy football though. :)!

[49erRCCollector]

I keep waiting for Rodgers to be special again but maybe I need to see him for the player he is now, versus the player he was.

I'm very curious how this year unfolds.

[blackvodka]

I keep thinking the same thing over and over and I just don't expect much from Rodgers.

I get signing him to a one-year deal though. Might as well roll the dice. I mean Mason Rudolph isn't a sure fire starter.

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[SethMurphy]

Daniel Jones SZN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[majestik101]

Great news for my Danny Dimes rookie black chrome /10 auto. Maybe now I can finally get FU money for it.

[Floridacardguy]

I don’t believe that you care about AR15

He sucks so it’s sort of irrelevant

Daniel Jones is better

That's like saying eating a sandwich made of dogfood is better than eating one made of cat food

[Floridacardguy]

I keep thinking the same thing over and over and I just don't expect much from Rodgers.

I get signing him to a one-year deal though. Might as well roll the dice. I mean Mason Rudolph isn't a sure fire starter.

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They will get as far as they would have had they started Will Howard. So they may as well have started Will Howard

[packman80]

They will get as far as they would have had they started Will Howard. So they may as well have started Will Howard

That is just silly to say. They start Will Howard they are a 3-4 win team. Rodgers gives them a shot at being a playoff team.

[mjekase]

That is just silly to say. They start Will Howard they are a 3-4 win team. Rodgers gives them a shot at being a playoff team.

Yeah, he'll be fine there. He just has to be a slightly above average starting QB, which is a safe bet given what's around him.

[blackvodka]

I think Howard can be successful. I would try and avoid playing him his RC year though. I can see him getting a chance next season if there aren't any setbacks though.

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[packman80]

wrong thread

[oldgoldy97]

Miz will be off TV as he will go to London to film the Amazon Prime series American Gladiators. Question is does he ever return to WWE TV.

Great question!


:rolleyes:

[packman80]

Great question!


:rolleyes:

dang wrong thread me bad

[Siberian13]

What is the miz?

[jmarascojr]

Doesn't sound like James Cook will be participating in Buffalo's Mandatory Training Sessions this week.

Holding out for that $15 million/year deal...

Talk radio this morning was discussing if Brandon Beane is feeling extra pressure to get this done before Hard Knocks shows up, so he doesn't end up looking like the Giants with Saquon...

[weeds73]

Doesn't sound like James Cook will be participating in Buffalo's Mandatory Training Sessions this week.

Holding out for that $15 million/year deal...

Talk radio this morning was discussing if Brandon Beane is feeling extra pressure to get this done before Hard Knocks shows up, so he doesn't end up looking like the Giants with Saquon...

while a perfectly fine RB, I don't think anyone is realistically thinking Cook is in the same realm as Saquon. I can't imagine Beane paying this guy $15M/yr

[slyguy]

while a perfectly fine RB, I don't think anyone is realistically thinking Cook is in the same realm as Saquon. I can't imagine Beane paying this guy $15M/yrCorrect... they're fine with Cook playing out his rookie deal unless his price drops.

He's had one good year. A lot of guys would do well with that offense.

I don't think they're putting him in top RB money any sooner than they need to when they have no $$ for WRs.

[blackvodka]

Cook is decent. He's nothing special though. I certainly wouldn't really go out of my way and pay a guy who's probably the 12th best right now at his position (give or take).

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[Floridacardguy]

Doesn't sound like James Cook will be participating in Buffalo's Mandatory Training Sessions this week.

Holding out for that $15 million/year deal...

Talk radio this morning was discussing if Brandon Beane is feeling extra pressure to get this done before Hard Knocks shows up, so he doesn't end up looking like the Giants with Saquon...

Frank Gore JR gonna rise :)

[packman80]

11 of 16 Cooks rushing TDs were 7 yards or less last year. Look at Jammal Williams few years back when he had a ton of short yardage TDs for the Lions did not see it go to his head thinking he was a top RB in the NFL and ask for stupid money.

[blackvodka]

Jaire did get cut from GB. Not too surprised given how much time he's missed and salary cost.

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[jmarascojr]

Frank Gore JR gonna rise :)

Yeah but then we gotta figure out who's signing his cards :)!:)!:)!

[packman80]

Congrats to the newlywed Aaron Rodgers who confirmed he did recently get married.

[NickyCards]

Dobbins will help Denver out a lot

[Whodatiz]

Congrats to the newlywed Aaron Rodgers who confirmed he did recently get married.

Did you congratulate Josh Allen as well? At least his wife showed up.

[packman80]

Did you congratulate Josh Allen as well? At least his wife showed up.

Allen married a smoke show he does not need anyone to congratulate him he knows he's winning at life.

[slyguy]

Congrats to the newlywed Aaron Rodgers who confirmed he did recently get married.To a guy or a chic?

[Siberian13]

Allen married a smoke show he does not need anyone to congratulate him he knows he's winning at life.

If you’re a qb in the nfl, you’re winning at life. :)!

[jmarascojr]

Cook is decent. He's nothing special though. I certainly wouldn't really go out of my way and pay a guy who's probably the 12th best right now at his position (give or take).

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So, he showed at mandatory's yesterday... Asked why, "I like my money"

To a guy or a chic?

Definitely a "beard"

[slyguy]

I guess I don't pay attention too much anymore to SI, but this is really terrible stuff...

Saints should trade for Anthony Richardson:
https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/saints-need-to-trade-for-former-first-round-quarterback-colts-anthony-richardson-zach3

Saints should trade for Cousins (same author):
https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/saints-predicted-to-trade-spencer-rattler-for-180-million-rival-falcons-kirk-cousins-zach3

I mean... really? Wtf? There are YouTube rumors worse than this guy... and he's a paid writer for what was once one of the biggest names in sports news?

Have I missed something? Did Sports Illustrated jump the shark as sports news went more to online and social media? :confused::confused::confused:

[Baraka]

The Saints need more than just a good QB :coffee:

[majestik101]

Saints should trade for Anthony Richardson

Saints should trade for Cousins (same author)

Have I missed something? Did Sports Illustrated jump the shark as sports news went more to online and social media? :confused::confused::confused:

It's SI. That magazine has been irrelevant for the last 10+ years

Their next story will probably be

Saints should trade for Anthony Richardson's Cousin

[Siberian13]

Bengals having trouble signing their first round pick. Trey unhappy still. Go Bengals!

[tjforce]

Bengals having trouble signing their first round pick. Trey unhappy still. Go Bengals!

They are going 100% Madden Franchise mode....

Spend $95MM (increasing every year) and already $14MM in void years on QB an 2 WRs, while allocating practically nothing to their defense.

Should make for some great counting stats, but there's a reason they haven't made the playoffs the last 2 years.

[Siberian13]

Is it true that one fo the new Colts owners will be on the sideline with a headset on? Do other owners do this? I know Jerry is too involved and Blank is a dancing doofus.

[tjforce]

Is it true that one fo the new Colts owners will be on the sideline with a headset on? Do other owners do this? I know Jerry is too involved and Blank is a dancing doofus.

I mean, if I were a billionaire who owned an NFL team, I too would love to cosplay an NFL coach... particularly one that couldn't get fired!

[packman80]

Is it true that one fo the new Colts owners will be on the sideline with a headset on? Do other owners do this? I know Jerry is too involved and Blank is a dancing doofus.

Just wait until they have to have an assistant right next to her telling her what every call means because I doubt she will know what all the terms are when they are coming in to the QB while in the huddle.

[slyguy]

Is it true that one fo the new Colts owners will be on the sideline with a headset on? Do other owners do this? I know Jerry is too involved and Blank is a dancing doofus.I sure hope not.

She has had a ton of plastic/derm surgery and she has boatloads of family money is still definitely one of the ugliest [non-obese] women I've ever seen.
She looks 44 going on 74. I sure don't want to see her on TV. She is worse than Caitlin friggin Clark. Woof woof.

https://1075thefan.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/100/2025/06/17495994754816.jpg?w=726&strip=all&quality=80

https://nbcsports.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/299b148/2147483647/strip/false/crop/4009x2673+0+0/resize/1486x991!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnbc-sports-production-nbc-sports.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com%2Fbrightspot%2F60%2F12%2F50ff9aba4f23b2c06ebdcada65ad%2Fhttps-api-imagn.com%2Frest%2Fdownload%2FimageID%3D19747783

[Siberian13]

Just seems odd. Is that what they do in nascar?

[packman80]

Just seems odd. Is that what they do in nascar?

I do believe the owners and wives can sit on the pit box and listen in. But I know like 20 years ago when I went to a race even fans could rent a scanner that would allow you to listen to each teams radio from driver to crew.

[Siberian13]

I bet she tells Raheem to call timeout. Raheem didn’t know he could call one but she would be on it.

[hairysasquatch]

I sure hope not.

She has had a ton of plastic/derm surgery and she has boatloads of family money is still definitely one of the ugliest [non-obese] women I've ever seen.
She looks 44 going on 74. I sure don't want to see her on TV. She is worse than Caitlin friggin Clark. Woof woof.

https://1075thefan.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/100/2025/06/17495994754816.jpg?w=726&strip=all&quality=80

https://nbcsports.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/299b148/2147483647/strip/false/crop/4009x2673+0+0/resize/1486x991!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnbc-sports-production-nbc-sports.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com%2Fbrightspot%2F60%2F12%2F50ff9aba4f23b2c06ebdcada65ad%2Fhttps-api-imagn.com%2Frest%2Fdownload%2FimageID%3D19747783

I'll go 6/10 with wealth factored in. Might. Not "would," but "might."

[auctionjmm]

I guess I don't pay attention too much anymore to SI, but this is really terrible stuff...

Saints should trade for Anthony Richardson:
https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/saints-need-to-trade-for-former-first-round-quarterback-colts-anthony-richardson-zach3

Saints should trade for Cousins (same author):
https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/saints-predicted-to-trade-spencer-rattler-for-180-million-rival-falcons-kirk-cousins-zach3

I mean... really? Wtf? There are YouTube rumors worse than this guy... and he's a paid writer for what was once one of the biggest names in sports news?

Have I missed something? Did Sports Illustrated jump the shark as sports news went more to online and social media? :confused::confused::confused:

I think its part algorithm, part AI, part click-bait deal with MSN. When I launch Edge each day, I get tons of stories like this on the front page. Being from Cleveland, all mine are Shedeur Sanders articles and all have compelling titles like "Sanders to be cut by training camp" and then the article has some guy saying that the Browns won't carry 4 QBs into the season and basically says one will be cut (duh) but the title makes you think otherwise.

[packman80]

See the state of Missouri has passed that they are willing to fund 50% of renovating or building new stadiums for the Chiefs and Royals. Chiefs plan is to renovate their stadium at a cost of $1.15 billion dollars and the Royals plan is to build a new stadium at a cost of $2 billion dollar. No word yet from either team if they will plan to accept this deal or seek a better deal from the state of Kansas.

[slyguy]

I'm surprised we haven't seen Cam Ward PED "random" tested yet... not many males have nipples like this guy:

https://image-cdn.essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/11057685.jpg

This one on ESPN front today:
https://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2025%2F0611%2Fr1505396_2_1296x729_16%2D9.jpg

[blackvodka]

I'm surprised we haven't seen Cam Ward PED "random" tested yet... not many males have nipples like this guy:

https://image-cdn.essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/11057685.jpg

This one on ESPN front today:
https://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2025%2F0611%2Fr1505396_2_1296x729_16%2D9.jpgIf Stefon Diggs hasn't gotten one yet, Cam Ward seems even less likely [emoji23]

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[Siberian13]

NippleGate is back!

[no10pin]

I'm surprised we haven't seen Cam Ward PED "random" tested yet... not many males have nipples like this guy:




How much male nipple research do you have? Are pointy nipples a sign of PED use or is he just happy to see you?

[Whodatiz]

slyguy’s specialty is gyno nipple?

You do you.

[meandsharon11]

I sure hope not.

She has had a ton of plastic/derm surgery and she has boatloads of family money is still definitely one of the ugliest [non-obese] women I've ever seen.
She looks 44 going on 74. I sure don't want to see her on TV. She is worse than Caitlin friggin Clark. Woof woof.

https://1075thefan.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/100/2025/06/17495994754816.jpg?w=726&strip=all&quality=80

https://nbcsports.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/299b148/2147483647/strip/false/crop/4009x2673+0+0/resize/1486x991!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnbc-sports-production-nbc-sports.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com%2Fbrightspot%2F60%2F12%2F50ff9aba4f23b2c06ebdcada65ad%2Fhttps-api-imagn.com%2Frest%2Fdownload%2FimageID%3D19747783




Maybe she will take over head coaching duties. She looks the part.



As far as her appearance, if that’s the ugliest you have seen, then I want to live where you live.

[Grid]

Sly guy thinks the Colts owner is the ugliest woman he has ever seen. *That is not a fatty. But digs Cam Ward's juicy areolas. Hot Take of the Day right there.

As far as female sports owners go, I'd put Carlie at the top of my sexy list.

https://indiana250-com.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/carlie-irsay-gordon.jpg

[hairysasquatch]

Sly guy thinks the Colts owner is the ugliest woman he has ever seen. *That is not a fatty. But digs Cam Ward's juicy areolas. Hot Take of the Day right there.

As far as female sports owners go, I'd put Carlie at the top of my sexy list.

https://indiana250-com.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/carlie-irsay-gordon.jpg

But SlyGuy is your bud in the NFCN Thread?

[Grid]

But SlyGuy is your bud in the NFCN Thread?

Nope, he hates the Bears like you. Just because he and I agree that Campbell is a meathead. Doesn't make us friends.

I just hope he starts posting male nipple pics over there next. Just to spice things up.

[hairysasquatch]

Nope, he hates the Bears like you. Just because he and I agree that Campbell is a meathead. Doesn't make us friends.

I just hope he starts posting male nipple pics over there next. Just to spice things up.

Well if Caleb has man-nips I guess we'll find out...

[slyguy]

Shedeur Sanders speeding 101mph. Awesome move for a guy on Cleveland roster bubble with many other teams obviously little/no interest in him in draft.

Sure, sounds like nothing to Jordan Addison 140mph or Rashee Rice 120mph...
...but Sanders was driving a big Dodge pickup truck, not an exotic.

[jmarascojr]

There were posts on X yesterday that this wasn't the first time he was caught speeding in the Cleveland area and the previous time(s) were worse.

Maybe he's trying some reverse psychology BS to get Cleveland to cut him so he can go somewhere else, but where would he go?

Shedeur Sanders speeding 101mph. Awesome move for a guy on Cleveland roster bubble with many other teams obviously little/no interest in him in draft.

Sure, sounds like nothing to Jordan Addison 140mph or Rashee Rice 120mph...
...but Sanders was driving a big Dodge pickup truck, not an exotic.

[asujbl]

There were posts on X yesterday that this wasn't the first time he was caught speeding in the Cleveland area and the previous time(s) were worse.

Maybe he's trying some reverse psychology BS to get Cleveland to cut him so he can go somewhere else, but where would he go?

He isn't getting cut

And please tell me you didn't fall for the 144 joke on X

[Ninotores]

Slygay needs to post a pic if he's gonna judge what others look like. Seems like the ugliest and fattest dudes deflect that onto judgement of women's looks most of the time. Like they can be 320lbs and have pot holes, but a woman better be 115lb and smooth skin.

But don't you worry, like so many posts, he will ignore this and bring up a different subject to try and move the conversation away from his ignorance and lack of IQ.

[majestik101]

Shedeur Sanders speeding 101mph. Awesome move for a guy on Cleveland roster bubble with many other teams obviously little/no interest in him in draft.

Sure, sounds like nothing to Jordan Addison 140mph or Rashee Rice 120mph...
...but Sanders was driving a big Dodge pickup truck, not an exotic.

Another knucklehead like Jameis Winston. Won't be long until he's worn out his welcome and is just an afterthought. Inappropriate behavior. There's a reason why this kid dropped in the draft and we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg. And papa Sanders ain't around to protect him anymore. I think we're about to see more and more examples like this pop up over time.

[tjforce]

Another knucklehead like Jameis Winston. Won't be long until he's worn out his welcome and is just an afterthought. Inappropriate behavior. There's a reason why this kid dropped in the draft and we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg. And papa Sanders ain't around to protect him anymore. I think we're about to see more and more examples like this pop up over time.

Jameis
Manziel
Jamarcus Russell
Chad Kelly

This kind of stuff is nothing new.

[asujbl]

Jameis
Manziel
Jamarcus Russell
Chad Kelly

This kind of stuff is nothing new.

Myles Garrett as well

[majestik101]

Myles Garrett as well

Myles Garrett is a future HOF'er Those other yayhoos mentioned won't get a sniff of the Hall

[asujbl]

Myles Garrett is a future HOF'er Those other yayhoos mentioned won't get a sniff of the Hall

Not even close to the point

[packman80]

Shedeur Sanders speeding 101mph. Awesome move for a guy on Cleveland roster bubble with many other teams obviously little/no interest in him in draft.

Sure, sounds like nothing to Jordan Addison 140mph or Rashee Rice 120mph...
...but Sanders was driving a big Dodge pickup truck, not an exotic.

meh not a big deal every day people get pulled over for speeding. That's all he did he pays the traffic ticket and month from now no one even remembers.

He's more likely to do something 10 times as dumb during his rookie season with how big that family ego is

[slyguy]

meh not a big deal every day people get pulled over for speeding. That's all he did he pays the traffic ticket and month from now no one even remembers.

He's more likely to do something 10 times as dumb during his rookie season with how big that family ego is100 in a 60 is fairly bad. That's pretty blatent disrespect for safety of others and one's own safety, something that the team invests a lot in.

Word around Vikings is they considered cutting or trading Jordan Addison (felony speeding rook year, DIU last offseason), but his on-field play is pretty darn strong. Sanders hasn't done squat yet.

And yes, I agree Sanders will do something much dumber.

[slyguy]

First of your takes I agree with. CJ will likely retire. Neck injuries are nothing to f with at this point in his career, but you never know these guys’ financial situation or love for the game. ...Mosely retirement official this week.
He might have talked to a few teams after cut by NYJ, but I don't think he or any team wants to make/pay vet minimum for a risk of a serious injury.

He will be Ravens ring of honor for sure... I think almost zero chance at HOF, but a very good player and career nonetheless.

[packman80]

George Kittle had a WILD interaction with a prisoner when he visited San Quentin prison. During his rookie year all the 49ers rookies were sent for a visit there.

"Which one of you is a Tight End because I'll get all up in that A**. I'm like I play linebacker."

[Boo]

George Kittle had a WILD interaction with a prisoner when he visited San Quentin prison. During his rookie year all the 49ers rookies were sent for a visit there.

"Which one of you is a Tight End because I'll get all up in that A**. I'm like I play linebacker."

He’s also a HUGE fan of the Vasper System.

[Brobocop]

Five years ago, Jalen Ramsey, big name, been in a lot of big games. He's going to really help the season tickets early in the year. But we get in the dog days in November and December, he's lucky to have a tackle count his age.

[21Pittsburgh58]

Steelers and Dolphins trade:

Jalen Ramsey (CB)
Jonnu Smith (TE)
7th rd pick (2027)

for

Minkah Fitzpatrick
5th rd pick (2027)

Interesting!

[Fenway55]

I think Ramsey was simply untenable in his current situation. Interesting trade!

[49erRCCollector]

I think I'm just being naive, but I am excited for the 49ers season upcoming.

It's been really drama free after the purge, and I like the youth movement.

Side note: Whenever I am away from here for a minute I always come back to a wave of suspensions and bannings. Not sad to miss the drama.

[Boo]

Ramsey blows, don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out.

[21Pittsburgh58]

I think Ramsey was simply untenable in his current situation. Interesting trade!

What I think is ...

The Steelers REALLY wanted Smith and the Dolphins REALLY wanted Ramsey's contract gone.

Fitzpatrick was the compromise. Steelers still have DeShone Elliott and Juan Thornhill at Safety

[Fenway55]

What I think is ...

The Steelers REALLY wanted Smith and the Dolphins REALLY wanted Ramsey's contract gone.

Fitzpatrick was the compromise. Steelers still have DeShone Elliott and Juan Thornhill at Safety
I think the Steelers think they can get more out of Ramsey than the Dolphins did. Sometimes good coaching - which I hate to admit the Steelers have - can indeed make a player step up in a new, better situation.

[21Pittsburgh58]

We'll definitely see. Notables for the Steelers:

IN: Rodgers (QB), Rudolph (QB), Ramsey (CB), Jonnu (TE), D.K. (WR), Slay (CB), Thornhill (S), Parham (TE), Gainwell (RB). No offensive line help

OUT: Fields, Russ, Minkah, Pickens, Najee (:(), Daniels (G), Brown (OT)

What a fascinating offseason for the Steelers! They could be formidable

[49erRCCollector]

I think the Steelers think they can get more out of Ramsey than the Dolphins did. Sometimes good coaching - which I hate to admit the Steelers have - can indeed make a player step up in a new, better situation.

Also, a disruptive pass rush is a CB's best friend. Jalen should do OK.

[tjforce]

I think I'm just being naive, but I am excited for the 49ers season upcoming.

It's been really drama free after the purge, and I like the youth movement.

Side note: Whenever I am away from here for a minute I always come back to a wave of suspensions and bannings. Not sad to miss the drama.

49ers have a really weak schedule this year... The Rams are probably the toughest team they play.

No Chiefs, Eagles, Bills, Ravens, Commanders, Lions, Packers, Vikings, Chargers, Broncos, or Steelers.

They should win enough games to be a playoff team

[Siberian13]

49ers have a really weak schedule this year... The Rams are probably the toughest team they play.

No Chiefs, Eagles, Bills, Ravens, Commanders, Lions, Packers, Vikings, Chargers, Broncos, or Steelers.

They should win enough games to be a playoff team

Man do they have a soft schedule.

[Siberian13]

Arthur Smith gets his favorite TE.

[Scottish Punk]

I still feel like everything the Steelers are doing is just for a run this year. The only one that doesn't fit is DK's contract. Jalen will get cut after this year and save 50 million on what would be left of his contract. Probably why TJ is looking to get out. Steelers are due for a full reset after this year.

[Siberian13]

I still feel like everything the Steelers are doing is just for a run this year. The only one that doesn't fit is DK's contract. Jalen will get cut after this year and save 50 million on what would be left of his contract. Probably why TJ is looking to get out. Steelers are due for a full reset after this year.

What gave it away? The 1 year deal for Rodgers :)

[hairysasquatch]

Mike "No Socks" McDaniel on second hottest seat in NFL (behind Daboll) according to some schmuck's article in today's paper.

[Grid]

Mike "No Socks" McDaniel on second hottest seat in NFL (behind Daboll) according to some schmuck's article in today's paper.

Whats a "paper"? Isn't that the thing you carry groceries in?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/fc/05/bffc059d59504b94e59df9324ed243bc.gif

[21Pittsburgh58]

Grid is on fire!

It's like you're taking the NFC North thread angst and spreading it out. Well done, I like it :flex:

[49erRCCollector]

Man do they have a soft schedule.

Man, I'll take it.

[Siberian13]

Man, I'll take it.

You just hope the team doesn’t waste it like my falcons always do.

[Siberian13]

Did not even see that Darren Waller was coming back to be a Dolphin. Guess they got their TE

[asujbl]

He was an absolute garbage rapper so it makes sense

[Siberian13]

He was an absolute garbage rapper so it makes sense

Who Waller? I just assume any athlete making music is terrible at it. :)!

[hairysasquatch]

Whats a "paper"? Isn't that the thing you carry groceries in?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/fc/05/bffc059d59504b94e59df9324ed243bc.gif

LOL - catching strays in the offseason thread while trying to flush our resident Phins Phan out of the bushes! :eek:

Grid is on fire!

It's like you're taking the NFC North thread angst and spreading it out. Well done, I like it :flex:

:p

[Floridacardguy]

Who Waller? I just assume any athlete making music is terrible at it. :)!

And here I thought Waller retired like 2 yrs ago :doh:

[Grid]

Waller had 2 good seasons out of 8. Sucked for 2 years in Baltimore and got dumped. Sucked 3 out of 5 years with the Raiders. Sucked his only year with the Giants.

Hasn't played a down since 2023. And the Dolphins assume he will be in 2020 form?

https://media.tenor.com/6NOti-hC5UwAAAAM/good-luck-with-that-batman.gif

[asujbl]

What I think is ...

The Steelers REALLY wanted Smith and the Dolphins REALLY wanted Ramsey's contract gone.

Fitzpatrick was the compromise. Steelers still have DeShone Elliott and Juan Thornhill at Safety

Juan Thornhill being in the NFL still is embarrassing to the NFL

I wouldn’t hang my hat on that one

[Boo]

A Kansas City radio host and podcaster ripped Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes as new photos surfaced of him celebrating the Fourth of July holiday with his wife, Brittany.

Kevin Kietzman, the host of "Uncanceled" on KCMO Talk Radio and the "Kevin Kietzman Has Issues" podcast, suggested that Mahomes gained weight over the offseason and demanded the quarterback "stop the fast food."

"Vacation photos are popping up of Patrick Mahomes, and he's fat. I'm gonna say it, and I'm gonna tell you the truth, that’s why you hit the play button, he's an embarrassment," he said. "You're a $500 million quarterback, you've made all these comments in the offseason that ‘We're gonna do our talking on the field, we got our butts kicked in the Super Bowl, we're coming back with a vengeance.’ Dude, you're fat. Your belly would be fat at my pool, hanging out with us, 60 year olds. My skin is flabbier than yours, I get it. Stop. Stop the fast food. Do a sit-up. Do something.

"Yeah, I'm sure he's worked out and he's strengthened his arm and he's done all kind of different things, quarterback things, but there's no training to this man. I don't understand it. He's not a kid anymore, you can't just run through your NFL career eating Taco Bell all the time and Door Dashing fried chicken, which he loves.… It's time dude. It's time."

:cry::cry::cry:

[asujbl]

John Daly 1992. "That's why I never get injured. You can pull a muscle but you can't pull fat."

Sounds like Mahomes knows what he’s doing

[Grid]

A Kansas City radio host and podcaster ripped Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes as new photos surfaced of him celebrating the Fourth of July holiday with his wife, Brittany.

Kevin Kietzman, the host of "Uncanceled" on KCMO Talk Radio and the "Kevin Kietzman Has Issues" podcast, suggested that Mahomes gained weight over the offseason and demanded the quarterback "stop the fast food."

"Vacation photos are popping up of Patrick Mahomes, and he's fat. I'm gonna say it, and I'm gonna tell you the truth, that’s why you hit the play button, he's an embarrassment," he said. "You're a $500 million quarterback, you've made all these comments in the offseason that ‘We're gonna do our talking on the field, we got our butts kicked in the Super Bowl, we're coming back with a vengeance.’ Dude, you're fat. Your belly would be fat at my pool, hanging out with us, 60 year olds. My skin is flabbier than yours, I get it. Stop. Stop the fast food. Do a sit-up. Do something.

"Yeah, I'm sure he's worked out and he's strengthened his arm and he's done all kind of different things, quarterback things, but there's no training to this man. I don't understand it. He's not a kid anymore, you can't just run through your NFL career eating Taco Bell all the time and Door Dashing fried chicken, which he loves.… It's time dude. It's time."

:cry::cry::cry:

If this is fat, sign me up! That's one of the 4th of July pictures in question.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/07/08/12/100061329-14884375-A_divisive_Kansas_City_radio_host_has_angered_fans_online_after_-a-1_1751974603995.jpg

[tjforce]

If this is fat, sign me up! That's one of the 4th of July pictures in question.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/07/08/12/100061329-14884375-A_divisive_Kansas_City_radio_host_has_angered_fans_online_after_-a-1_1751974603995.jpg

Jeez... what a fatty.

Someone (or some things) 'ballooned up' in that photo... but it wasn't Pat. I'll pray for his healthy and safety.

[Ninotores]

His arms should have more tone, but he's not fat in 2025. He needs some cushion honestly to stay protected.

[majestik101]

All-Pro LT Tristan Wirfs will miss the first 4 games of the season after undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery yesterday.

The Bucs chances of repeating as Divisional Champs just got more difficult

[asujbl]

All-Pro LT Tristan Wirfs will miss the first 4 games of the season after undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery yesterday.

The Bucs chances of repeating as Divisional Champs just got more difficult

Baker will be fine. He doesn’t need an OLine

[Grid]

Baker will be fine. He doesn’t need an OLine

Good thing he fattened up like Pat! He needed some cushion honestly to stay protected.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWs1DiFFF8-yfiQfNJ0GPOvZgUhd-Z733f7g&s

[majestik101]

Baker will be fine. He doesn’t need an OLine

Whoa whoa whoa. He's not Bo Nix

[BostonNut]

I question if Frenz-O was still here orchestrating the football forum would Yinz be discussing shirtless Fatty MaHomes?

[kipgen]

A Kansas City radio host and podcaster ripped Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes as new photos surfaced of him celebrating the Fourth of July holiday with his wife, Brittany.

Kevin Kietzman, the host of "Uncanceled" on KCMO Talk Radio and the "Kevin Kietzman Has Issues" podcast, suggested that Mahomes gained weight over the offseason and demanded the quarterback "stop the fast food."

"Vacation photos are popping up of Patrick Mahomes, and he's fat. I'm gonna say it, and I'm gonna tell you the truth, that’s why you hit the play button, he's an embarrassment," he said. "You're a $500 million quarterback, you've made all these comments in the offseason that ‘We're gonna do our talking on the field, we got our butts kicked in the Super Bowl, we're coming back with a vengeance.’ Dude, you're fat. Your belly would be fat at my pool, hanging out with us, 60 year olds. My skin is flabbier than yours, I get it. Stop. Stop the fast food. Do a sit-up. Do something.

"Yeah, I'm sure he's worked out and he's strengthened his arm and he's done all kind of different things, quarterback things, but there's no training to this man. I don't understand it. He's not a kid anymore, you can't just run through your NFL career eating Taco Bell all the time and Door Dashing fried chicken, which he loves.… It's time dude. It's time."

:cry::cry::cry:

This is what entitlement looks like

Three championships and two MVPs in seven years is simply not acceptable

I need my QB to be SHREDDED

Hey Anthony Richardson's pretty jacked, maybe they want to figure out a trade between the Colts and the Chiefs?

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_12_desktop/panthers/wp8wcieypxqmo4odftou

[asujbl]

Brady Quinn is still a ripped up smoke show if anyone wants to bring him out retirement

[tjforce]

This is what entitlement looks like

Three championships and two MVPs in seven years is simply not acceptable

I need my QB to be SHREDDED

Hey Anthony Richardson's pretty jacked, maybe they want to figure out a trade between the Colts and the Chiefs?


Brady Quinn is still a ripped up smoke show if anyone wants to bring him out retirement

Pfft... Wait til you guys get a look at Will Levis.

https://dehayf5mhw1h7.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/1537/2021/09/03113441/Levis-e1630686915908.jpg

This guy must have 3 MVPs sculpted into his guns

[Siberian13]

Brady Quinn is still a ripped up smoke show if anyone wants to bring him out retirement

Sometimes I worry about you :)

[Siberian13]

All-Pro LT Tristan Wirfs will miss the first 4 games of the season after undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery yesterday.

The Bucs chances of repeating as Divisional Champs just got more difficult

That’s tough to start the season. Wirfs is a fantastic LT. Texans and Eagles in the first 4 will be tough for his replacement.

[JosieD]

A Kansas City radio host and podcaster ripped Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes as new photos surfaced of him celebrating the Fourth of July holiday with his wife, Brittany.

Kevin Kietzman, the host of "Uncanceled" on KCMO Talk Radio and the "Kevin Kietzman Has Issues" podcast, suggested that Mahomes gained weight over the offseason and demanded the quarterback "stop the fast food."

"Vacation photos are popping up of Patrick Mahomes, and he's fat. I'm gonna say it, and I'm gonna tell you the truth, that’s why you hit the play button, he's an embarrassment," he said. "You're a $500 million quarterback, you've made all these comments in the offseason that ‘We're gonna do our talking on the field, we got our butts kicked in the Super Bowl, we're coming back with a vengeance.’ Dude, you're fat. Your belly would be fat at my pool, hanging out with us, 60 year olds. My skin is flabbier than yours, I get it. Stop. Stop the fast food. Do a sit-up. Do something.

"Yeah, I'm sure he's worked out and he's strengthened his arm and he's done all kind of different things, quarterback things, but there's no training to this man. I don't understand it. He's not a kid anymore, you can't just run through your NFL career eating Taco Bell all the time and Door Dashing fried chicken, which he loves.… It's time dude. It's time."

:cry::cry::cry:

Why are grown men body shaming other men??

[JosieD]

I think losing Josh Sweat is going to prove costly to the Eagles this season. Not a fan of the move.

[Siberian13]

I think losing Josh Sweat is going to prove costly to the Eagles this season. Not a fan of the move.

Think your team has a solid chance at a repeat. Long journey

[McDuck]

Is Najee harris going to miss any camp or preseason time with eye injury fireworks (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45712485/agent-najee-harris-eye-injury-fireworks-incident)?

I bet he is behind 1st pick Hampton on official 53-man depth chart in September anyways just due to talent, but this didn't help his touches or coach trust for RBBC.

Haven't seen a lot of updates on this, but I'm nowhere near soCal.
There are no 'minor' injuries for the eyes. :eek:

[Siberian13]

Is Najee harris going to miss any camp or preseason time with eye injury fireworks (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45712485/agent-najee-harris-eye-injury-fireworks-incident)?

I bet he is behind 1st pick Hampton on official 53-man depth chart in September anyways just due to talent, but this didn't help his touches or coach trust for RBBC.

Haven't seen a lot of updates on this, but I'm nowhere near soCal.
There are no 'minor' injuries for the eyes. :eek:

Not one eye injury is considered minor?

[majestik101]

Ndamukong Suh's days of stomping on arms and legs are over.

Dirty ass player when he was on the Lions and Dolphins.

By the time he joined the Bucs, he cleaned up his act and helped the team win a Super Bowl, so thanks for that #93

Next stop, Canton?

#'d /10 Contenders from my PC
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51138998136_2f44a41eb8_b.jpg

[asujbl]

Ndamukong Suh's days of stomping on arms and legs are over.

Dirty ass player when he was on the Lions and Dolphins.

By the time he joined the Bucs, he cleaned up his act and helped the team win a Super Bowl, so thanks for that #93

Next stop, Canton?

#'d /10 Contenders from my PC
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51138998136_2f44a41eb8_b.jpg

A - He’s awesome
B - Canton is a lock

[meandsharon11]

Ndamukong Suh's days of stomping on arms and legs are over.

Dirty ass player when he was on the Lions and Dolphins.

By the time he joined the Bucs, he cleaned up his act and helped the team win a Super Bowl, so thanks for that #93

Next stop, Canton?

#'d /10 Contenders from my PC
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51138998136_2f44a41eb8_b.jpg




You have got to be joking

[cdub6238]

Uh oh spaghettios Brownies fans..Judkins facing DV charges

[McDuck]

A - He’s awesome
B - Canton is a lockSecond part, yes.... but it'll take time.

Suh's performance is probably the best recent DT besides Aaron Donald.

Kong will wait at least a few years after his 2027 first ballot for poor character and being suspended many times in his NFL career. There are also just better players waiting and upcoming... APete, Gronk, AntBrown, others 2027 entering the HOF pool also. The year after that is Brady, JJWatt, others entering 2028.

Suh was probably fringe first ballot on play and stats alone. It's not a position that has very many first ballot DTs (six so far, Aaron Donald will be the 7th when 2029 eligible). Ndamukong won't be in until 2030 or after imo.

Suh will still almost surely get into HOF barring some criminal or serious personal scandal popping up between now and whatever weaker HOF class year they put him as a finalist. He was good enough on-field to overcome being a junk teammate and not very well-liked in the league or even by fans. His cards are also low value for a reason.

[majestik101]

Second part, yes.... but it'll take time.

Suh's performance is probably the best recent DT besides Aaron Donald.

Kong will wait at least a few years after his 2027 first ballot for poor character and being suspended many times in his NFL career. There are also just better players waiting and upcoming... APete, Gronk, AntBrown, others 2027 entering the HOF pool also. The year after that is Brady, JJWatt, others entering 2028.

Suh was probably fringe first ballot on play and stats alone. It's not a position that has very many first ballot DTs (six so far, Aaron Donald will be the 7th when 2029 eligible). Ndamukong won't be in until 2030 or after imo.

Suh will still almost surely get into HOF barring some criminal or serious personal scandal popping up between now and whatever weaker HOF class year they put him as a finalist. He was good enough on-field to overcome being a junk teammate and not very well-liked in the league or even by fans. His cards are also low value for a reason.

Suh is going in, no doubt in my mind.

I'd be SHOCKED if Antonio Brown gets in. That would be like Lenny Dykstra going into the MLB Hall of Fame.

.

[asujbl]

Second part, yes.... but it'll take time.

Suh's performance is probably the best recent DT besides Aaron Donald.

Kong will wait at least a few years after his 2027 first ballot for poor character and being suspended many times in his NFL career. There are also just better players waiting and upcoming... APete, Gronk, AntBrown, others 2027 entering the HOF pool also. The year after that is Brady, JJWatt, others entering 2028.

Suh was probably fringe first ballot on play and stats alone. It's not a position that has very many first ballot DTs (six so far, Aaron Donald will be the 7th when 2029 eligible). Ndamukong won't be in until 2030 or after imo.

Suh will still almost surely get into HOF barring some criminal or serious personal scandal popping up between now and whatever weaker HOF class year they put him as a finalist. He was good enough on-field to overcome being a junk teammate and not very well-liked in the league or even by fans. His cards are also low value for a reason.

I’ll take this bet all day long

[McDuck]

Suh is going in, no doubt in my mind.

I'd be SHOCKED if Antonio Brown gets in. That would be like Lenny Dykstra going into the MLB Hall of Fame.I agree, but he'll be in the pool that are eligible. It'd seem crazy to put Suh in 2027 when Antonio is held out (probably forever) for similar malice and bad teammate reasoning.

Suh will likely get in years later.... but nobody loves a guy who tries to hurt other players on a regular basis. The game is rough enough.

I’ll take this bet all day longHi, was not offering any bet. Not at all.
I also think that's against forum policy? From what I read, no wagers of cards, logos, anything?

If you think Suh won't get in or that he's first ballot or whatever, that's ok.

[asujbl]

I agree, but he'll be in the pool that are eligible. It'd seem crazy to put Suh in 2027 when Antonio is held out (probably forever) for similar malice and bad teammate reasoning.

Suh will likely get in years later.... but nobody loves a guy who tries to hurt other players on a regular basis. The game is rough enough.

Hi, was not offering any bet. Not at all.
I also think that's against forum policy? From what I read, no wagers of cards, logos, anything?

If you think Suh won't get in or that he's first ballot or whatever, that's ok.

Ugh….

[majestik101]

Ugh….

McDuck reading between the lines with the Hubble telescope lol

It'd seem crazy to put Suh in 2027 for similar malice and bad teammate reasoning.

Saying AB's transgressions and Suh's transgressions are similar is wild, y'all


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[asujbl]

McDuck reading between the lines with the Hubble telescope lol



Saying AB's transgressions and Suh's transgressions are similar is wild, y'all


https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbTZkaXpxbm5rdTY4dmU2NDl2eWFnbzI4ZGpjcTRtN3pzN3MxMmF2NCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/tLql6mMHC6wvK/giphy.gif

Suh was an absolute stud

One of those guys that even though he didn’t play in Cleveland I had to root for him. Just a monster

[BostonNut]

Slyguy…I mean McDuck…sure has some interesting takes.

[Whodatiz]

You could probably get him to help you out with that text message issue you were having.

[majestik101]

Slyguy…I mean McDuck…sure has some interesting takes.

Ah, now it all makes sense.

[Siberian13]

Ah, now it all makes sense.

Wonder what sly guy got banned for?

[Bosoxfan5990]

Ah, now it all makes sense.

I just checked out the thread in your signature and :eek:

[majestik101]

I just checked out the thread in your signature and :eek:

The fact that the lot sat unclaimed for a whopping 10 whole minutes is mind bottling. I made out like a bandit that day.

[Bosoxfan5990]

The fact that the lot sat unclaimed for a whopping 10 whole minutes is mind bottling. I made out like a bandit that day.

:flex:

[Boo]

@LeVeonBell

every time a bird poops on my car, I eat a plate of wings on the front porch to show them what I'm capable of


Dude is weird, Pittsburgh must do it to them.

[Siberian13]

@LeVeonBell

every time a bird poops on my car, I eat a plate of wings on the front porch to show them what I'm capable of


Dude is weird, Pittsburgh must do it to them.

Yeah a lot of craziness surrounding Pittsburgh.

[KingRybo]

Garrett Wilson signs a 4 year, 130 million extension, 90 million guaranteed.

[Siberian13]

You know when you have Justin Fields it’s time to pay your #1 WR $130 mill over 4 years. He might catch all 2,000 yards of his passing stats. :)!

[KingRybo]

You know when you have Justin Fields it’s time to pay your #1 WR $130 mill over 4 years. He might catch all 2,000 yards of his passing stats. :)!

Haha, I thought the same thing.

[hairysasquatch]

Joy Taylor out at FS1 for...reasons...

[majestik101]

So long, big cans and peanut butter skin

IYKYK

[KingRybo]

Sauce Gardner with a 4 year 120.4 million extension. Jets spending some $$$ the past 2 days.

[asujbl]

Trey Smith 94/4

Highest paid IL ever

Breaking records this week

[Baraka]

So long, big cans and peanut butter skin

IYKYK

They will be missed.

[hairysasquatch]

They will be missed.

This guy gets it.

[Siberian13]

So only one first rounder to sign their rookie deal. Bengals playing Chinese checkers by themselves.

[packman80]

So only one first rounder to sign their rookie deal. Bengals playing Chinese checkers by themselves.

I find it funny 4th round pick Jack Kiser has not signed yet. What is a 4th round pick holding out for.

[kipgen]

Any thoughts on Bryce Young this year? Kinda feel like his prices are at a point where it wouldn't hurt to buy in and see what happens (a lot more approachable than other QBs in similar situations anyway)

[Siberian13]

Any thoughts on Bryce Young this year? Kinda feel like his prices are at a point where it wouldn't hurt to buy in and see what happens (a lot more approachable than other QBs in similar situations anyway)

I did that with Jared Goff and it paid off. But I can’t see it with Bryce especially in Carolina. He’s still really young though just 23.

[hairysasquatch]

I did that with Jared Goff and it paid off. But I can’t see it with Bryce especially in Carolina. He’s still really young though just 23.

Good for you on Goff!

[kipgen]

I did that with Jared Goff and it paid off. But I can’t see it with Bryce especially in Carolina. He’s still really young though just 23.

He had a couple games where he did well last year but yeah I don't know much about Carolina as an org. They did add Tetairoa McMillan who supposedly will be pretty good.

[majestik101]

I heard today that Trevor Lawrence says "This is the year I need to really turn it on". :cry:

T-Law is like so many young middle-of-the-road QBs in the league who won't amount to a hill of beans when all is said and done. All sizzle, no steak. Hype is all they have.

Most, if not all of them will fall by the wayside like hot one minute, flashes in the pans Mac Jones, Nick Mullens, Taylor Heinecke, Gardner Minshew, Daniel Jones the list goes on and on. I can't tell one from the other.

These 6 better do something significant next year

Bryce Young
Dak Prescott (Every year with this guy. Dude's one injury away from being the next Derek Carr)
Trevor Lawrence
Justin Fields
Kyler Murray
Anthony Richardson

[Siberian13]

I heard today that Trevor Lawrence says "This is the year I need to really turn it on". :cry:

T-Law is like so many young middle-of-the-road QBs in the league who won't amount to a hill of beans when all is said and done. All sizzle, no steak. Hype is all they have.

Most, if not all of them will fall by the wayside like hot one minute, flashes in the pans Mac Jones, Nick Mullens, Taylor Heinecke, Gardner Minshew, Daniel Jones the list goes on and on. I can't tell one from the other.

These 6 better do something significant next year

Bryce Young
Dak Prescott (Every year with this guy. Dude's one injury away from being the next Derek Carr)
Trevor Lawrence
Justin Fields
Kyler Murray
Anthony Richardson

Wonder how that Clamson guy is feeling. He was not a fan of Jawja

[Floridacardguy]

Von Miller to the Commanders.
Disappointed that the Broncos did not find a place for him

[Siberian13]

Von Miller to the Commanders.
Disappointed that the Broncos did not find a place for him

25th all time in sacks with an asterisk. Dude chasing rings and stats at this point.

[packman80]

49ers may start the ball rolling with 2nd round picks starting to sign as they sign the 43rd overall pick. Guarateed $9 million of his $10.3 million deal. $2 million increase in guaranteed money over last years 43rd overall pick.

[oldgoldy97]

I heard today that Trevor Lawrence says "This is the year I need to really turn it on". :cry:

T-Law is like so many young middle-of-the-road QBs in the league who won't amount to a hill of beans when all is said and done. All sizzle, no steak. Hype is all they have.

Most, if not all of them will fall by the wayside like hot one minute, flashes in the pans Mac Jones, Nick Mullens, Taylor Heinecke, Gardner Minshew, Daniel Jones the list goes on and on. I can't tell one from the other.

These 6 better do something significant next year

Bryce Young
Dak Prescott (Every year with this guy. Dude's one injury away from being the next Derek Carr)
Trevor Lawrence
Justin Fields
Kyler Murray
Anthony Richardson
Like a trip to Texas Roadhouse.

[Siberian13]

I heard today that Trevor Lawrence says "This is the year I need to really turn it on". :cry:

T-Law is like so many young middle-of-the-road QBs in the league who won't amount to a hill of beans when all is said and done. All sizzle, no steak. Hype is all they have.

Most, if not all of them will fall by the wayside like hot one minute, flashes in the pans Mac Jones, Nick Mullens, Taylor Heinecke, Gardner Minshew, Daniel Jones the list goes on and on. I can't tell one from the other.

These 6 better do something significant next year

Bryce Young
Dak Prescott (Every year with this guy. Dude's one injury away from being the next Derek Carr)
Trevor Lawrence
Justin Fields
Kyler Murray
Anthony Richardson

Do you think ex-Bucs OC can do the same for Sunshine as he did for Baker?

[majestik101]

Do you think ex-Bucs OC can do the same for Sunshine as he did for Baker?

I have 100% more faith in Liam Coen's capabilities as T-Law's HC than I do Dave Canales capabilities as HC of Bryce Young.

I think Dave Canales is an A-hole. And based on what I have read on some Bucs fan-sites, he wasn't particularly well liked by the front office or the players.

Coen, on the other hand, was respected and highly regarded by the Bucs players, I think he's going to do just fine in Jacksonville. Can he reach T-Law the same way he reached Baker?

No clue.

The difference is, Baker was already on the upward trajectory, and is hungry for recognition and to shake the fart-stench of Cleveland off of him, plus he always walks around with a chip on his shoulder, wanting to prove that he's not some castaway QB.

Coen simply said OK, Baker I'm gonna help you take that next step, and he did. Says a lot about Baker imho.

Does T-Law have that fire in him? I would say nah. He comes across as smug with nothing to prove, just there to collect a pay-check. Totally different personalities.

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[asujbl]

Watt getting 124/3

Is that real?

Wild

[majestik101]

Watt getting 124/3

Is that real?

Wild

"He's not even that good" - Someone on the forums said about 6 months ago

Let's all sit back and wait

[asujbl]

"He's not even that good" - Someone on the forums said about 6 months ago

Let's all sit back and wait

He will be 31 this year in 2025

That’s a big nut

[Scottish Punk]

Watt getting Garrett money is not surprising. As always with these contracts, the details are important. How much of an out do the Steelers have after year two. So Crosby, Garrett, and now Watt each upped the bar. Hutch is going to ask for an extension after this year. Obviously he has to have a monster season, but he is going to want big money. I don't think he is worth raising the bar again, but the floor has certainly been raised. His contract will start with a 3.

[BraveAtlanta]

Wonder how that Clamson guy is feeling. He was not a fan of Jawja

No one from Clamson likes UGA. UGA owns them 44-18-4 in the lopsided series. The Dawgs have beaten them 8 out of 9 times and that one time was a 3 pt fluke. Thats why they say that the Clamson helmet logo is a Bulldog B-Slap on the side of their helmet.

Clamson has ONE win since 1990. 35 years haha

[Siberian13]

No one from Clamson likes UGA. UGA owns them 44-18-4 in the lopsided series. The Dawgs have beaten them 8 out of 9 times and that one time was a 3 pt fluke. Thats why they say that the Clamson helmet logo is a Bulldog B-Slap on the side of their helmet.

Clamson has ONE win since 1990. 35 years haha

Oh I know. We all had fun with that one Clamson fan before he went bonkers.

[majestik101]

I'm probably the only one here who gives a hoot, but the Bucs '76 throwback jersey hype video was pretty cool to see and gets my blood pumping for the upcoming season.

Embedded here for those who give a hoot.

D5ch-nwl4MU

[packman80]

Lions Levi Onwuzurike will miss the season with an ACL injury. Do they know call Cincy up try to work out trade for Hendrickson? 1st round pick for him and then pay him 35 million a year?

[hairysasquatch]

Lions Levi Onwuzurike will miss the season with an ACL injury. Do they know call Cincy up try to work out trade for Hendrickson? 1st round pick for him and then pay him 35 million a year?

Doubt it. Probably going to re-sign Zadarius Smith and hope for the best.

[kingofsnake]

I have purchased a lot of Commanders merch. Is Trump going to compensate me for all of this merch?

[weeds73]

I like George Karlaftis, but that seems like a lot of money relative to his production


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[BadChad]

I like George Karlaftis, but that seems like a lot of money relative to his production


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It very much is.

[kipgen]

The Washington Football Team is the best name of the three

[CorndogWasp]

WFT and the logo has a classic 1930s feel. Big fan.

[majestik101]

For anyone who cares, and the 2 or so clectors on here who collect/invest in his cards (shame on you), Titans QB Will Levis will undergo surgery on his throwing shoulder and is going to miss the entire 2025 season.

[Siberian13]

For anyone who cares, and the 2 or so clectors on here who collect/invest in his cards (shame on you), Titans QB Will Levis will undergo surgery on his throwing shoulder and is going to miss the entire 2025 season.

Doesn’t mean much. Cam Ward is the guy now anyways.

[asujbl]

For anyone who cares, and the 2 or so clectors on here who collect/invest in his cards (shame on you), Titans QB Will Levis will undergo surgery on his throwing shoulder and is going to miss the entire 2025 season.

Did he have a hot mom? I feel like he did

Not his EXGF. I remember her vividly

So the hot mom might care

[tjforce]

I like George Karlaftis, but that seems like a lot of money relative to his production


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$23MM per year ties him for the 10th highest paid Edge rusher (with Alex Van Ginkel), and just ahead of Trey Hendrickson, who is holding out for more money.

Karlaftis is just 24 years old. Age wise, the closet comp is Gregory Rousseau, who's at $20MM per year and 25 years old. Karlaftis has been a better player. In 1 less season (3 vs 4), they are tied in Sacks during the regular season, but Karlaftis has a pretty incredible 8 sacks in 10 playoff game, while Rousseau has 3 in 9 games. Karlaftis has led the league in post season sacks 2 years in a row.

For the ages 24-27 season of Karlaftis, I think ranging from the 10-15th highest paid DE in the league doesn't seem like a bad deal.

[weeds73]

$23MM per year ties him for the 10th highest paid Edge rusher (with Alex Van Ginkel), and just ahead of Trey Hendrickson, who is holding out for more money.

Karlaftis is just 24 years old. Age wise, the closet comp is Gregory Rousseau, who's at $20MM per year and 25 years old. Karlaftis has been a better player. In 1 less season (3 vs 4), they are tied in Sacks during the regular season, but Karlaftis has a pretty incredible 8 sacks in 10 playoff game, while Rousseau has 3 in 9 games. Karlaftis has led the league in post season sacks 2 years in a row.

For the ages 24-27 season of Karlaftis, I think ranging from the 10-15th highest paid DE in the league doesn't seem like a bad deal.


Look, I am a fan of Karlaftis. I just don’t see his production being worthy of $23+ million per year. An average of 8.5 sacks per year is not particularly exciting. He is tied for 22nd in sacks since 2022 in the regular season at 24.5. I get that he is young and has turned it on over the last 2 yrs in the playoffs. Maybe that momentum will carry through to this year. But, don’t forget that Chris Jones is soaking up double teams every play he is out there, which leaves George 1v1 a lot with still limited production. I hope I’m wrong, as he seems to be a high character guys and hard worker.

There was a good article in the KC Star on it (https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mcdowell/article311052650.html).


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[BadChad]

Look, I am a fan of Karlaftis. I just don’t see his production being worthy of $23+ million per year. An average of 8.5 sacks per year is not particularly exciting. He is tied for 22nd in sacks since 2022 in the regular season at 24.5. I get that he is young and has turned it on over the last 2 yrs in the playoffs. Maybe that momentum will carry through to this year. But, don’t forget that Chris Jones is soaking up double teams every play he is out there, which leaves George 1v1 a lot with still limited production. I hope I’m wrong, as he seems to be a high character guys and hard worker.

There was a good article in the KC Star on it (https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mcdowell/article311052650.html).


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It’s not. He’s being overpaid.

[jmarascojr]

For anyone who cares, and the 2 or so clectors on here who collect/invest in his cards (shame on you), Titans QB Will Levis will undergo surgery on his throwing shoulder and is going to miss the entire 2025 season.

Good landing spot for Shedeur Sanders as a back-up once the Browns realize they can't keep 4 QBs...

[asujbl]

Good landing spot for Shedeur Sanders as a back-up once the Browns realize they can't keep 4 QBs...

You spelled Joe Flacco wrong

[tjforce]

Look, I am a fan of Karlaftis. I just don’t see his production being worthy of $23+ million per year. An average of 8.5 sacks per year is not particularly exciting. He is tied for 22nd in sacks since 2022 in the regular season at 24.5. I get that he is young and has turned it on over the last 2 yrs in the playoffs. Maybe that momentum will carry through to this year. But, don’t forget that Chris Jones is soaking up double teams every play he is out there, which leaves George 1v1 a lot with still limited production. I hope I’m wrong, as he seems to be a high character guys and hard worker.

There was a good article in the KC Star on it (https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mcdowell/article311052650.html).


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Right now he's probably the 12th-15th best edge rusher in the NFL, and tied for 10th highest paid. Over the next 4 years he'll be be moving down that highest paid list and hopefully up the best edge rusher list.

Even if he never gets into the elite tier, or next tier down, it's okay because he's not paid like it. TJ Watt and Myles Garrett are making about 2x what he is. Hunter, Crosby, and Bosa are making 50% more.

He gets paid the same as Alex Van Ginkel, who has less total career sacks and is 30.

Less than Rashan Gary (age 28), who had 7.5 sacks last year and a career high of 9.0 (both less than George's regular season totals the last two years).

Montez Sweat gets paid $24.5MM per year... He had 5.5 sacks last year. 29 years old.

Brian Burns was a killer in Carolina. His last two years in New York? 8.5 sacks and 8.0 sacks. He gets $28.2MM per.

So those are your 4 guys right in front of him in pay. All older, none producing more than he is. If you really want to talk about the tier of EDGE that out produces him by a mile, you need to get to the Bosa/Crosby/Hunter level, and those guys makes 50% more and at a prime age.

It's a fair contract.

[asujbl]

So many posts about a random dude. Football is almost back baby

That’s not a negative. I’m here for it!

[BadChad]

PFF doesn’t even have him in the top 32 heading into 2025.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-edge-defender-rankings-top-32-2025-nfl-season

[Boo]

PFF doesn’t even have him in the top 32 heading into 2025.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-edge-defender-rankings-top-32-2025-nfl-season

Chiefs fans think everyone on the team is great

[BadChad]

Chiefs fans think everyone on the team is great

No need to be caustic.

[tjforce]

Chiefs fans think everyone on the team is great

Results speak for themselves.

And nobody said he's great. He has led the NFL in Playoff sacks each of the last 2 years, and has double the amount for his career than Chris Jones does. So he plays well when it matters.

That and they probably don't beat the 49ers in the Super Bowl if he loafs like George Kittle does https://youtu.be/IU91K1fKAvw

[tjforce]

So many posts about a random dude. Football is almost back baby

That’s not a negative. I’m here for it!

Sometimes it's the 11th and 12th guys on the roster that help put teams over the top.

Crazy that the Browns have had 2 of the top 25 players this century for their entire career and the team has still managed to be so bad.

[asujbl]

Sometimes it's the 11th and 12th guys on the roster that help put teams over the top.

Crazy that the Browns have had 2 of the top 25 players this century for their entire career and the team has still managed to be so bad.

That’s impressive as hell if you ask me

[Siberian13]

No need to be caustic.

Don’t use big words with Boo

[Siberian13]

So many posts about a random dude. Football is almost back baby

That’s not a negative. I’m here for it!

So happy we’re almost back. HOF game is July 31st. I know no one cares about I like I do but I love it. Football season is the best time of year.

[asujbl]

So happy we’re almost back. HOF game is July 31st. I know no one cares about I like I do but I love it. Football season is the best time of year.

Meet you there?

[Siberian13]

Meet you there?

Wish I could go but life. You right there though. Enjoy it if you do!

[asujbl]

Wish I could go but life. You right there though. Enjoy it if you do!

I go every year

It’s a fun event

[oldgoldy97]

Chiefs fans think everyone on the team is great

The Mahomes effect.

More pronounced than the Mandela effect.

[tjforce]

That’s impressive as hell if you ask me

Think about how NFL history changes if Joe Thomas spends his career blocking for a guy like Andrew Luck, RG3, or maybe even Sam Bradford.

But no... best QB he blocked for was Derek Anderson.

[asujbl]

Think about how NFL history changes if Joe Thomas spends his career blocking for a guy like Andrew Luck, RG3, or maybe even Sam Bradford.

But no... best QB he blocked for was Derek Anderson.

Maybe that’s why he stayed and didn’t go to Denver

Maybe he he hates Sam Bradford

It’s all made up theories

[BadChad]

Don’t use big words with Boo

Thanks, I think.

I’d prefer to stick to discussions on cards, players or the NFL.

[Siberian13]

Thanks, I think.

I’d prefer to stick to discussions on cards, players or the NFL.

Sounds good bud :cry:

[2010GBPackers]

Look, I am a fan of Karlaftis. I just don’t see his production being worthy of $23+ million per year. An average of 8.5 sacks per year is not particularly exciting. He is tied for 22nd in sacks since 2022 in the regular season at 24.5. I get that he is young and has turned it on over the last 2 yrs in the playoffs. Maybe that momentum will carry through to this year. But, don’t forget that Chris Jones is soaking up double teams every play he is out there, which leaves George 1v1 a lot with still limited production. I hope I’m wrong, as he seems to be a high character guys and hard worker.

There was a good article in the KC Star on it (https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mcdowell/article311052650.html).


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Ding, ding, ding. Karlaftis is nothing special. KC could have taken Rashan Gary off our hands if they wanted an overrated pass-rusher making big money.

[patchgenie]

is Joe flacco going to be the starter?

[hairysasquatch]

is Joe flacco going to be the starter?

That would be quite something.

[tjforce]

JFC....


The Browns new alternative helmet reveal and one of the guys doing the unveiling falls off the raft into Lake Erie.

Can't make this up.

[Siberian13]

JFC....


The Browns new alternative helmet reveal and one of the guys doing the unveiling falls off the raft into Lake Erie.

Can't make this up.

Well hopefully the lake isn’t on fire. Poor brownies. You see why their fans are the way they are.

[tjforce]

Ding, ding, ding. Karlaftis is nothing special. KC could have taken Rashan Gary off our hands if they wanted an overrated pass-rusher making big money.

Nah... he's produced more sacks age 21-23 than Gary has age 25-27 (or in any 3 year span of this career), and signed a cheaper contract than Gary.

That's why I don't get outrage over this deal. It slots him on par with Alex Van Ginkel and right above Gregory Rousseau.

My hot take is that it'll actually be money better spent than the $123.7MM they handed out to Chris Jones for his age 30-33 seasons. Just look at the last two season totals:

Sacks:
Chris Jones: 17.0
George Karlaftis: 25.5

Tackles:
Jones: 80
Karlaftis: 114


Tackles for Loss:
Jones: 23
Karlaftis: 23

And that includes Jones' 1 year deal before the new contract.

I'm not going to go as far as saying that Karlaftis is better than Jones at this point, but I wouldn't be surprised if Karlaftis' age 24-27 season is a better value at 75% of the cost of Jones' are 30-33 season

[asujbl]

Well hopefully the lake isn’t on fire. Poor brownies. You see why their fans are the way they are.

That was the river dummy

[Siberian13]

That was the river dummy

Yeah we know. Just assume they ruined the lake too being Cleveland. :)

[tjforce]

Well hopefully the lake isn’t on fire. Poor brownies. You see why their fans are the way they are.

That was the river dummy

Yeah we know. Just assume they ruined the lake too being Cleveland. :)

Sure. Just don't drink the lake water

[asujbl]

Yeah we know. Just assume they ruined the lake too being Cleveland. :)

You don’t know. You messed up. Admit it

Lake Erie borders a lot of places

The Cuyahoga is Cleveland

Just admit you’re dumb

We already know it. It’s not some shocking revelation

[Siberian13]

You don’t know. You messed up. Admit it

Lake Erie borders a lot of places

The Cuyahoga is Cleveland

Just admit you’re dumb

We already know it. It’s not some shocking revelation

OP said Lake. So I said lake. You guys have a reputation for setting water on fire. Surprised you couldn’t figure it out. Don’t get all in your feels cause it’s Cleveland related. :)

It’s ok

[asujbl]

OP said Lake. So I said lake. You guys have a reputation for setting water on fire. Surprised you couldn’t figure it out. Don’t get all in your feels cause it’s Cleveland related. :)

It’s ok

Too many words HAS

[Siberian13]

Too many words HAS

Man I’m starting to think you’re as dumb as I am. This ain’t good. :cry:

[BostonNut]

Over excited Browns camera guy falls into body of water photographing a Poop-Brown helmet reveal.

You just have to love that dumpster fire. :cry:

[tjforce]

Over excited Browns camera guy falls into body of water photographing a Poop-Brown helmet reveal.

You just have to love that dumpster fire. :cry:


.... Just wait til the season starts.

[Siberian13]

.... Just wait til the season starts.

I can’t wait to see who wins the qb job, who finishes with the job and who does the best overall at the position. So many solid options

[Fenway55]

I can’t wait to see who wins the qb job, who finishes with the job and who does the best overall at the position. So many solid optionsNo team would ever do this, but they should give each of their rookie QB's a guaranteed number of games so they can see what each guy has got.

[Siberian13]

No team would ever do this, but they should give each of their rookie QB's a guaranteed number of games so they can see what each guy has got.

Can’t guarantee it though in case someone gets hot.

[tjforce]

I can’t wait to see who wins the qb job, who finishes with the job and who does the best overall at the position. So many solid options

The Browns are absolutely the team to watch this preseason.... Not necessarily in a good way.

But 4 guys legitimately fighting for the starting jobs.

4 guys that could all legitimately see themselves traded/cut

[2010GBPackers]

Nah... he's produced more sacks age 21-23 than Gary has age 25-27 (or in any 3 year span of this career), and signed a cheaper contract than Gary.

That's why I don't get outrage over this deal. It slots him on par with Alex Van Ginkel and right above Gregory Rousseau.

My hot take is that it'll actually be money better spent than the $123.7MM they handed out to Chris Jones for his age 30-33 seasons. Just look at the last two season totals:

Sacks:
Chris Jones: 17.0
George Karlaftis: 25.5

Tackles:
Jones: 80
Karlaftis: 114


Tackles for Loss:
Jones: 23
Karlaftis: 23

And that includes Jones' 1 year deal before the new contract.

I'm not going to go as far as saying that Karlaftis is better than Jones at this point, but I wouldn't be surprised if Karlaftis' age 24-27 season is a better value at 75% of the cost of Jones' are 30-33 season

Time will tell. I'm going to bet Karlaftis' numbers will continue to be pegged to Jones' performance. He's the alpha dog there. Everyone else eats because of him.

[Siberian13]

Man nfl live on ESPN is a joke these days. Yikes

[tjforce]

Time will tell. I'm going to bet Karlaftis' numbers will continue to be pegged to Jones' performance. He's the alpha dog there. Everyone else eats because of him.

Small sample size, but in 2023 when Jones held out of Game 1 vs Detroit, then only played 50% of the snaps in Week 2, Furious George had:

Week 1: 7 Tackles (3 solo, 4 ast), 1 Pass Defended, 1 TFL
Week 2: 1.5 Sacks, 4 Tackles, 1 TFL, 2 QB Hits

and in 2024 when Jones was out Week 17 vs Pitt:

Week 17: 1 Sack, 1 TFL, 2 Tackles, 2 QB hits, 1 Pass Defended

Just 3 games, but he's been pretty effective without Jones around.

[Whodatiz]

"Furious George". That's a thing now apparently.

tj trying to justify "Furious George's" worth with week 17 stats is peak comedy.

[Scottish Punk]

Man nfl live on ESPN is a joke these days. Yikes

I am seeing NFL might be buying 10% of ESPN. That will make for some real honest reporting. And of course, all the "debate" shows would have non stop made up content about NFL.

[majestik101]

Bucs won’t allow 450+ pound undrafted rookie Desmond Watson to practice until he gets in better shape.

https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bucs/2025/07/23/bucs-wont-allow-desmond-watson-practice-until-he-gets-better-shape/

[Siberian13]

Bucs won’t allow 450+ pound undrafted rookie Desmond Watson to practice until he gets in better shape.

https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bucs/2025/07/23/bucs-wont-allow-desmond-watson-practice-until-he-gets-better-shape/

Don’t blame them especially with this weekends heat dome stuff. Heat index supposed to be up to 110 in Tampa.

Good for him for losing weight though. Wonder what the ideal weight they want for him.

[majestik101]

Don’t blame them especially with this weekends heat dome stuff. Heat index supposed to be up to 110 in Tampa.

Good for him for losing weight though. Wonder what the ideal weight they want for him.

Vita Vea's 6 ft 4 in, around 365 lbs, and this kid's 6 ft 6 in so I'm thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of 385-390

It's crazy to think a guy this large (weighed in at 464 pounds on his pro day) ran the 40-yard dash in 5.86 seconds, in addition to recording a vertical jump of 25 inches


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[Siberian13]

Vita Vea's 6 ft 4 in, around 365 lbs, and this kid's 6 ft 6 in so I'm thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of 385-390

So he needs to shed about 50 lbs more? Doable but how long will that take. Sounds like he won’t be ready for start of season. He’s an interesting pick for sure. Let’s see if he’s motivated.

[Siberian13]

Vita Vea's 6 ft 4 in, around 365 lbs, and this kid's 6 ft 6 in so I'm thinking somewhere in the neighborhood of 385-390

It's crazy to think a guy this large (weighed in at 464 pounds on his pro day) ran the 40-yard dash in 5.95 seconds, in addition to recording a vertical jump of 25 inches


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Let’s see his vertical/40 after he loses 80 lbs.

[tjforce]

"Furious George". That's a thing now apparently.

tj trying to justify "Furious George's" worth with week 17 stats is peak comedy.

It's literally been his nickname for years and listed on his Pro-football-reference page.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KarlGe00.htm

And yeah, I'm using Week 17, Week 1, and Week 2 performance to justify his play. As well as his career playoff stats of

8 Sacks
8 TFLs
16 QB hits
36 Tackles (21 solo)

in 10 games. Glad you can get a laugh while being educated.

[majestik101]

Pleasantly surprised that there was no discussion here about the fake/staged photographer falling into Lake Erie during the Browns helmet reveal.

That's a win-win for everybody.

[Whodatiz]

It's literally been his nickname for years and listed on his Pro-football-reference page.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KarlGe00.htm

And yeah, I'm using Week 17, Week 1, and Week 2 performance to justify his play. As well as his career playoff stats of

8 Sacks
8 TFLs
16 QB hits
36 Tackles (21 solo)

in 10 games. Glad you can get a laugh while being educated.

You definitely wake up every morning and look in the mirror and say "I'm never wrong."

Chris Jones makes everyone on that defense better. Just own it.

[tjforce]

You definitely wake up every morning and look in the mirror and say "I'm never wrong."

Chris Jones makes everyone on that defense better. Just own it.

And you definitely are the person who reads the headlines and posts a reaction without ever reading the article to understand the context. (being that I never said that Chris Jones didn't make him better... just that he's played well in Jones' absence.)


Because I could be wrong. And as a matter of fact, I consider one of my personal strengths the fact that I can acknowledge when I'm wrong and course correct (like when I PC'd Ben Simmons, then sold it all during summer workout video hype to load up on more Patrick Mahomes back in Summer 2020).

And again. I'm not saying that George Karlaftis is going to the HOF, or even that he's better than Chris Jones (he's not).

I'm just backing my case that in the history of horrible contracts, handing out one that pays him to be the 10th-~15th highest paid edge rusher over his age 24-27 seasons doesn't look like one of the worst going into it. This isn't Daniel Jones getting $40MM a year or Deshaun Watson getting $240MM guaranteed. It's a fair market deal.

[oldgoldy97]

Ohh. I could be wrong. And as a matter of fact, I consider one of my personal strengths the fact that I can acknowledge when I'm wrong and course correct (like when I PC'd Ben Simmons, then sold it all during summer workout video hype to load up on more Patrick Mahomes back in Summer 2020).

And again. I'm not saying that George Karlaftis is going to the HOF, or even that he's better than Chris Jones (he's not).

I'm just backing my case that in the history of horrible contracts, handing out one that pays him to be the 10th-~15th highest paid edge rusher over his age 24-27 seasons doesn't look like one of the worst going into it. This isn't Daniel Jones getting $40MM a year or Deshaun Watson getting $240MM guaranteed. It's a fair market deal.

:cry:

I’d love to hear your self perceived weaknesses. Top three list probably includes kryptonite.

[tjforce]

:cry:

I’d love to hear your self perceived weaknesses. Top three list probably includes kryptonite.

I'll keep that between me and my professional performance coach. She's paid well so I don't need to solicit unprofessional advice.

But I'll give you one: I spend too much time arguing with mouth-breathers on Blowout (Not you. I'm sure you can think of a few. I actually appreciate 85% of the banter here.)

[Whodatiz]

And you definitely are the person who reads the headlines and posts a reaction without ever reading the article to understand the context. (being that I never said that Chris Jones didn't make him better... just that he's played well in Jones' absence.)


Because I could be wrong. And as a matter of fact, I consider one of my personal strengths the fact that I can acknowledge when I'm wrong and course correct (like when I PC'd Ben Simmons, then sold it all during summer workout video hype to load up on more Patrick Mahomes back in Summer 2020).

And again. I'm not saying that George Karlaftis is going to the HOF, or even that he's better than Chris Jones (he's not).

I'm just backing my case that in the history of horrible contracts, handing out one that pays him to be the 10th-~15th highest paid edge rusher over his age 24-27 seasons doesn't look like one of the worst going into it. This isn't Daniel Jones getting $40MM a year or Deshaun Watson getting $240MM guaranteed. It's a fair market deal.

What? Help me understand the context of the bolded please. Did I misquote something about Furious George?

I just know a good supporting actor when I see one. Put him on any other team that has a hole in the middle of the defense and I would bet George would not be as prosperous as he is playing for the Chiefs.

[Whodatiz]

Calls others on Blowout mouth breathers AND does exactly that towards others.

Solid.

[BadChad]

Calls others on Blowout mouth breathers AND does exactly that towards others.

Solid.

Just wanted to say you have an interesting avatar.

[tjforce]

What? Help me understand the context of the bolded please. Did I misquote something about Furious George?

I just know a good supporting actor when I see one. Put him on any other team that has a hole in the middle of the defense and I would bet George would not be as prosperous as he is playing for the Chiefs.

"Chris Jones makes everyone on that defense better. Just own it."

Because you attempted to twist my words and infer that I said that Jones doesn't make people around him better.

All I was doing was proving the point that Karlaftis has played well without Jones in the lineup as well as with him in the line up.

Now I ask that you help me understand: What's so preposterous about using Week 17 of the 2024 NFL season performance as a data point (I had already pointed out that it was a small sample size)?

[oldgoldy97]

Just wanted to say you have an interesting avatar.

Thank you.