The truth about Haiku:

[saketm92]

A few weeks ago I made a large purchase from none other than Haiku for a couple grand, and all of a sudden a emergency arose where I could not fully pay him back. To be honest, I was probably about $600 short due to this emergency.

Of course, Haiku being the great person that he is still sent me the cards and just literally told me to "pay him back whenever." Then a little after, I was trying to recoup these funds, but out of nowhere I get a paypal payment from Haiku for the the same amount that I originally owed him. He told me to pay him back whenever my situation was resolved. I had the funds a week later and sent Haiku the payment for the money I owed him, and he immediately refunded me, and told me not to worry about it and donate it to a good cause.

[steelersown]

Wow is all I can say.

[Gore21]

Nice write up man. Love seeing this stuff. God bless the both of you.

[HBMC]

Another great story about Haiku!

[mindbinge]

nice to see there are still good people in the world :)

[hxcdavidjones]

He is an amazing person.

[1eyed_jack]

Seems like a stand up guy!

And he's a Bears fan!

[zonacats8]

WOW

I really wish there was something we could do FOR HAIKU and not the other way around, but I feel like if we were to do something, he'd just turn around and give whatever we give him away to someone else.

Maybe since the OP knows him outside of here he can figure out something we can do as a collective for Haiku to only fractionally pay him back for his ridiculous generosity he's given to the boards.

[sdoug76]

Besides all the giveaways and his not so profitable quick sales(for him!), I just enjoy dealing with him. Always hassle free, witty pm's, super fast shipping. Just really nice to deal with a guy like that, especially in this hobby.

[GetBig14]

Wow, great guy.

[studioU]

Wow. All I can say is wow.

[Headbando5]

Great story TP3- Never dealt with Haiku personally but definitely seems like a stand up dude!

[mikeman7322]

WOW

I really wish there was something we could do FOR HAIKU and not the other way around, but I feel like if we were to do something, he'd just turn around and give whatever we give him away to someone else.

Maybe since the OP knows him outside of here he can figure out something we can do as a collective for Haiku to only fractionally pay him back for his ridiculous generosity he's given to the boards.

I love this idea. If this was to be done, it would have to be something unique. Doesn't have to be something expensive but something unique that he would actually cherish and keep. If you or anyone ever gets the ball rolling with ideas, shoot me a pm and I would try to pitch in if at all possible!

[808buynsell808]

Wow great guy!! Need more of them in the world

[808buynsell808]

Count me in if you come up with something

I love this idea. If this was to be done, it would have to be something unique. Doesn't have to be something expensive but something unique that he would actually cherish and keep. If you or anyone ever gets the ball rolling with ideas, shoot me a pm and I would try to pitch in if at all possible!

[Burt-Reynolds]

amazing. what a great person and friend to have in your corner. not many people have someone that you can rely on like that.

[CardCollector]

Corbin and Haiku are secretly competing for member of the year :devil:

In all seriousness, Haiku is a stand up member. I exchanged some pms with him a few weeks ago just talking. Definitely seems like a great guy! He is definitely a key asset to this card community!

[ima_do_me213]

WOW

I really wish there was something we could do FOR HAIKU and not the other way around, but I feel like if we were to do something, he'd just turn around and give whatever we give him away to someone else.

Maybe since the OP knows him outside of here he can figure out something we can do as a collective for Haiku to only fractionally pay him back for his ridiculous generosity he's given to the boards.

Even though I haven't dealt with him myself I have watched all the stuff he has done on the boards and its VERY generous. If u do figure out something to do for Haiku send me a pm and I will help out as much as I can :)

[zonacats8]

I love this idea. If this was to be done, it would have to be something unique. Doesn't have to be something expensive but something unique that he would actually cherish and keep. If you or anyone ever gets the ball rolling with ideas, shoot me a pm and I would try to pitch in if at all possible!

I'm thinking it just might have to be something where we aren't actually giving him something, I'm guessing (based on what and how much he gives away) that he has everything he wants.

I'm thinking maybe we do something in his honor, like maybe have him tell us what his favorite charity is, we take up a collection and make a donation in his name.

What do you guys think about that?

I personally haven't been on the recieving end of any of his contests yet (they're freaking hard, I got 8/10 on one a couple weeks ago, best I've done hahaha) but I've seen everything he's done for members on here and while I can't afford a lot, I'd for sure be willing to throw some money into the pot for something like that.

[mikeman7322]

The classic question... "What do you give the man who has everything" haha... Maybe we can get the op in PMs and see if he has any ideas since he knows the OP better than you and I. But I would definitely want to be a part of something like this.

I'm thinking it just might have to be something where we aren't actually giving him something, I'm guessing (based on what and how much he gives away) that he has everything he wants.

I'm thinking maybe we do something in his honor, like maybe have him tell us what his favorite charity is, we take up a collection and make a donation in his name.

What do you guys think about that?

I personally haven't been on the recieving end of any of his contests yet (they're freaking hard, I got 8/10 on one a couple weeks ago, best I've done hahaha) but I've seen everything he's done for members on here and while I can't afford a lot, I'd for sure be willing to throw some money into the pot for something like that.

[CardCollector]

I like the idea, But I think it needs to be something for him. Sure, he has a lot but it doesnt necessarily need to be cards related. Something more personal maybe? I would definitely be down for something.

[Nick Diaz]

Haiku is Tim Tebow I knew it. :D

[zonacats8]

I like the idea, But I think it needs to be something for him. Sure, he has a lot but it doesnt necessarily need to be cards related. Something more personal maybe? I would definitely be down for something.

I'd love to do something FOR HIM, but I get the feeling that making a donation to a charity of HIS choosing, may be exactly the type of thing he would love.

But I'm certainly open to any better ideas if someone has something.

But I don't think he does all these contests/giveaways for the hell of it because he can, I think he truly enjoys the giving away to those who need it more aspect of it. Which is why I think a donation to a charity would be right up his ally and something that really is FOR HIM.

Anyone else have other ideas?

Should I start a new thread for us to throw some ideas out there for this?

[mikeman7322]

I'd love to do something FOR HIM, but I get the feeling that making a donation to a charity of HIS choosing, may be exactly the type of thing he would love.

But I'm certainly open to any better ideas if someone has something.

But I don't think he does all these contests/giveaways for the hell of it because he can, I think he truly enjoys the giving away to those who need it more aspect of it. Which is why I think a donation to a charity would be right up his ally and something that really is FOR HIM.

Anyone else have other ideas?

Should I start a new thread for us to throw some ideas out there for this?

Could be a good idea! I sent the OP a PM to see if he can throw any ideas

[zonacats8]

Could be a good idea! I sent the OP a PM to see if he can throw any ideas

I know there are people on here who can't afford to give money, but would probably be able to donate cards

In those situations we could have one person run auctions, .99 starting bids, $2 shipping, 7 days, and all proceeds would go towards this collective fund.

Maybe have someone who has an ebay store run that portion of it to minimize the fees that would get taken out to maximize our pot.

I'd be willing to run the cash donation portion of it, set up a new paypal account with a new email, post the paypal account in a thread on here so everyone can send whatever they feel comfortable sending and nobody needs to know who sent what.

Can give the password of the account to a few trusted members so that everyone feels comfortable that every penny sent will be used for the donation(s) and none of it is going to a person's personal account

EDIT: Just realized while all this is great to talk about, I think this thread should be about the ridiculously generous act by Haiku towards the OP, I'm creating a new thread to keep this talk separate and let that act stand alone

[mmkyszka]

I would be more then happy to add to whatever you guys do for him just let me know

[AKHMERICA]

Wow. Haiku never ceases to amaze me even though I've been here for a short time! If something were to be done for Haiku that would be great!

[zonacats8]

just made a thread guys, let's keep this talk there and let this thread stand alone for the generosity that started this thread

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/football/398858-lets-do-something-haiku.html

[Pejarox7620]

This doesn't surprise me one bit. Haiku just seems like that type of person. Seriously need more people like him. One stand up guy!

[tylert295]

Literally am speechless. Such a class act. Who just refunds that much money? Only Haiku. Hundreds of dollars dont matter to him because hes helping someone out. Haiku- you are truly an awesome person. Words cant describe what you do to and for the forum. More people need to be like you. Anything we can do to give back in some way. Even though it couldnt match the generosity of his. I would more than gladly like to be a part of it. Thank you again Haiku

[fitch123]

Glad to hear. This is undoubtedly an incredible gesture by a remarkably generous person. I just hope people don't start to take advantage of his generosity. At least one thread comes to mind...

[Oilngo]

Wow that is really awesome, dont find to many people this day in age like that. Very cool and happy to hear that.

[beaver1080]

great to see stuff like this happen

[DannyShakes]

Wow, such a great guy!

[matt roberson]

What a class act, nice to see.

[dvstringz]

Never dealt with Haiku either but he seems like an awesome person. Saying that he's generous is an understatement. Not many are in a position where they can give, and there are many who are in that position but don't care to give. It's awesome to see someone in our (sometimes corruptive) hobby that cares.

[kgcom21]

Wow! I've never dealt with Haiku, but man he is such a great person. The world is better for having Haiku in it. I'm absolutely willing to do something for him as well, I will check out the other thread zona.

[jusdukky]

Great story and amazing amount of trust by an individual. Have not dealt with Haiku but everything I've read and all of the contests he runs certainly gives one an idea of the amazingly generous and caring type of person he is.:)!

[sals_cardz]

Great story and amazing amount of trust by an individual. Have not dealt with Haiku but everything I've read and all of the contests he runs certainly gives one an idea of the amazingly generous and caring type of person he is.:)!

dont know him personally or ever dealt with him but this guy is a nice stand up guy. major props to haiku for the contest everything major props im not rich but if u guys are doing something for him im in.

[Haiku]

It was an accident,I didn't mean to it. I need to stop drinking :devil:

[saketm92]

It was an accident,I didn't mean to it. I need to stop drinking :devil:

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[pierrethomasfan]

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Ut oh:eek:

[cobbcollector]

true class act. good story

[BeingJustin]

Such a classy guy!

[Koppper]

Just getting us all warm and cheery, til he struck us down with that thunder...really do feel bad for anyone who lost out on this scam....

[fullmetal]

Who is Haiku and what happened?

[mindbinge]

nice to see there are still good people in the world :)

ever see Groundhog day?

"well...no...not now."

[zonacats8]

Who is Haiku and what happened?

Can't tell if serious...................

[hugh]

was this a made story to make Haiku look good?

[WhacksPacks]

http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/oddball-kellys-heroes.jpg

"Bridge is still up."

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7cw2r4mJd1rwuq3do1_1280.jpg

"No it ain't!"

[penny1fan]

And then you won the beats by dre headphones just a week later from him?This guy really has a man crush on you!?

[saketm92]

was this a made story to make Haiku look good?

His giveaway threads, offering people money, offering someone to fly out and go to a packers game all on his expense, and his great deals at the time. .

And then you won the beats by dre headphones just a week later from him?This guy really has a man crush on you!?

He basically leveraged me. Told me to send him a buck, I did, few days later got a pair of beats with a note saying "You won one of the christmas giveaways." I am not going to lie, I was like gatoryboy, and talked to him often, because I thought highly of him, and looked at him for advice since I was interested in his occupation. Needless to say, I was used and abused.

[808buynsell808]

His giveaway threads, offering people money, offering someone to fly out and go to a packers game all on his expense, and his great deals at the time. .



He basically leveraged me. Told me to send him a buck, I did, few days later got a pair of beats with a note saying "You won one of the christmas giveaways." I am not going to lie, I was like gatoryboy, and talked to him often, because I thought highly of him, and looked at him for advice since I was interested in his occupation. Needless to say, I was used and abused.

So basically your saying you and Gatorgirl are complete idiots?? Lmao well atleast some of the truth comes out.

[jimssouvenirs]

So basically your saying you and Gatorgirl are complete idiots?? Lmao well atleast some of the truth comes out.

Bahahahahaaaaa

[Bigbadbloom]

THe legend grows...................................

[chrismiller81]

His giveaway threads, offering people money, offering someone to fly out and go to a packers game all on his expense, and his great deals at the time. .



He basically leveraged me. Told me to send him a buck, I did, few days later got a pair of beats with a note saying "You won one of the christmas giveaways." I am not going to lie, I was like gatoryboy, and talked to him often, because I thought highly of him, and looked at him for advice since I was interested in his occupation. Needless to say, I was used and abused.

What did this guy do for a living? Just curious..:):)

[matpat21]

His giveaway threads, offering people money, offering someone to fly out and go to a packers game all on his expense, and his great deals at the time. .



He basically leveraged me. Told me to send him a buck, I did, few days later got a pair of beats with a note saying "You won one of the christmas giveaways." I am not going to lie, I was like gatoryboy, and talked to him often, because I thought highly of him, and looked at him for advice since I was interested in his occupation. Needless to say, I was used and abused.

Just out of curiosity, what was his occupation?

[penny1fan]

His giveaway threads, offering people money, offering someone to fly out and go to a packers game all on his expense, and his great deals at the time. .



He basically leveraged me. Told me to send him a buck, I did, few days later got a pair of beats with a note saying "You won one of the christmas giveaways." I am not going to lie, I was like gatoryboy, and talked to him often, because I thought highly of him, and looked at him for advice since I was interested in his occupation. Needless to say, I was used and abused.

can you provide us with a picture of the beats out of the box with your username on a piece of paper? Just to atleast clear the thought of the whole giveaway being an endorsement fraud?

[mindbinge]

looks like the only thing he forgot to do was nail everyone on a high end multi-case group break...hate to see it happen.

[hotbox]

looks like the only thing he forgot to do was nail everyone on a high end multi-case group break...hate to see it happen.

I'm surprised he didn't go this route to be honest.

[mindbinge]

I'm surprised he didn't go this route to be honest.

would have been a walk in the park before everything went down.

[saketm92]

What did this guy do for a living? Just curious..:):)

Just out of curiosity, what was his occupation?

Supposedly he was in fashion...

[saketm92]

So basically your saying you and Gatorgirl are complete idiots?? Lmao well atleast some of the truth comes out.

Listen, I am a complete idiot 100% and will not hide that. I just want people to know, I had nothing to do with Haiku's plan, and I am actually out a lot of money.

Call me stupid and retarded, I can live with that.

[chrismiller81]

Supposedly he was in fashion...

I had a feeling it was something like that..

[ChicoCheese]

I am new to these boards, but my general take on this Haiku fellow is he seems like a good guy.

I hope everything is going well on all sides of the fence.

[Srt42004n]

Well crap happens doesnt change how generous he is

[CardCollector]

Hadn't been paying a bunch of attention to this whole Haiku situation lately, anyone have the time to PM me what happened? Doesn't seem to be good and would love to be caught up !

[TimGeezy]

I figured he was just a nice, well to do guy. I am a new member but the more I paid attention the more it seemed to fall under the old "If it seems too good to be true...." cliche

[mcgahee21nfl]

Listen, I am a complete idiot 100% and will not hide that. I just want people to know, I had nothing to do with Haiku's plan, and I am actually out a lot of money.

Call me stupid and retarded, I can live with that.

Unlike others that were ripped off, I don't feel bad for you.

Sure you may have not been in on his "plan" but you were sure as hell ready to try to paint a picture of him for a payoff.

You're more to blame than most & most certainly not a victim of anything but your own greed.

[antrodemus]

I guess iTrader score doesn't mean much anymore.

[WilsonValdez]

Well crap happens doesnt change how generous he is

Uhhhhhhhhh if he stole 10's of thousands of dollars, then it changes how generous he is.....:rolleyes:

[GatorBoyInTN]

So basically your saying you and Gatorgirl are complete idiots?? Lmao well atleast some of the truth comes out.

How did I expect a post from you. I seriously wish you would go swimming without your floaties and............

[Prospect Rush]

Well crap happens doesnt change how generous he is

Lmfao...

Like really?

I'm just baffled.

[nuccionino]

Well crap happens doesnt change how generous he is

What are you talking about?

[Oilngo]

I apparently missed something else.....

[BoxBreaker72]

Well crap happens doesnt change how generous he is

Please don't have kids...

[808buynsell808]

How did I expect a post from you. I seriously wish you would go swimming without your floaties and............

Had to take you off the ignore list for this, since you like to Bragg about how your so close to Haiku call him and explain the situation to everyone in the forums js.

[nuccionino]

Had to take you off the ignore list for this, since you like to Bragg about how your so close to Haiku call him and explain the situation to everyone in the forums js.

Shut up, again. You are clueless. You probably think he is in on it.

[808buynsell808]

Shut up, again. You are clueless. You probably think he is in on it.

This coming from somebody who ripped people off as well, you should lay low too and you cant say Im making it up just check your itrader lol.

[Srt42004n]

funny how this all unravals the day after 30 for 30 special on Ponzi schemes

[WhacksPacks]

Had to take you off the ignore list for this, since you like to Bragg about how your so close to Haikus.

Bragg.. We talkin about Bragg?

http://fortwiki.com/images/thumb/6/6e/Braxton_Bragg.jpg/300px-Braxton_Bragg.jpg

I know this will be lost on most of you... But not apologetic for a little dull humor

[808buynsell808]

Bragg.. We talkin about Bragg?

http://fortwiki.com/images/thumb/6/6e/Braxton_Bragg.jpg/300px-Braxton_Bragg.jpg

I know this will be lost on most of you... But not apologetic for a little dull humor

Lmao good one on my phone, stupid phone

[GatorBoyInTN]

Had to take you off the ignore list for this, since you like to Bragg about how your so close to Haiku call him and explain the situation to everyone in the forums js.

Even if I heard from him, you would be the last person to know. The only people who would know I heard from would be the people involved in this, not a troll with no life.

[808buynsell808]

Even if I heard from him, you would be the last person to know. The only people who would know I heard from would be the people involved in this, not a troll with no life.

Quick question the other guy got beats headphones what did you get for selling out???

[Prospect Rush]

Quick question the other guy got beats headphones what did you get for selling out???

Wowsers...

[nuccionino]

This coming from somebody who ripped people off as well, you should lay low too and you cant say Im making it up just check your itrader lol.

Are you joking me? I ripped people off? You are a joke. You really are clueless.

[tikitomoka]

would venture to guess that those Beats he was giving away were fakes. just a guess.

[sdoug76]

Hard to take post of the week, this week. But Gator you are in the early running with that one!

[Sikkcaden]

Lmaooooooo. The trolls are out in full force today.

[nuccionino]

Gator went to far, but he is only mocking the troll up there. I never met a worse member on this board then buynsell.

[duwal]

and this is why I only am on here reading posts and box breaks and not making any kind of transactions on Blowout

[nuccionino]

Lmao you have no idea what you would be in for little boy

Whoo more comparisons of who's bigger!

I can't even defend gator anymore, but both are poop.

[Sqeeshy]

sunsfan8 with the perfect timing!

Atta boy!

[sunsfan8]

sunsfan8 with the perfect timing!

Atta boy!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcosyeqNxE1ryt074o1_1280.png

[808buynsell808]

Are you joking me? I ripped people off? You are a joke. You really are clueless.

I must be delusional but this is straight from your itrader js " $10 transaction about 3 months ago, never got the cards or a refund. dishonest!"

[nuccionino]

I must be delusional but this is straight from your itrader js " $10 transaction about 3 months ago, never got the cards or a refund. dishonest!"

You are because you don't even know the situation. That guy isn't even on here anymore. He leaves feedback 3 months after a transaction happened. Out of no where. I'm really gonna scam someone and ruin a rep here over $10? Come on. You just think you are the greatest, when you aren't. Go be rich.

[DannyShakes]

fight fight fight fight

[Sqeeshy]

Post #499

One away from the big #500!

[nuccionino]

fight fight fight fight

Not worth it, guy is scum and I am too poor for him.

[sunsfan8]

Post #499

One away from the big #500!
Save it for a meaningful thread.

[808buynsell808]

Not worth it, guy is scum and I am too poor for him.

Ummm yah.........

[nuccionino]

Ummm yah.........

I'll bow to you, don't worry

[darscards35kd]

Im totally lost here...can somebody explain what happened?

[IronMonkey415]

Knew Haiku was bad all along.
I said I love him so much and he never replied back to my PM or anything.

[Strasburg]

So why is gator gone?

[trixstar]

Yea I'm lost as well anyone have cliff notes?

[BoxBreaker72]

So why is gator gone?

He dropped an N bomb for one, he was also being a total piece of garbage. I am very glad he's gone, I couldn't stand the guy.

[DannyShakes]

I'd repeat it but would like to not be banned hahaha

[matpat21]

Had to take you off the ignore list for this, since you like to Bragg about how your so close to Haiku call him and explain the situation to everyone in the forums js.

I must be delusional but this is straight from your itrader js " $10 transaction about 3 months ago, never got the cards or a refund. dishonest!"

In all honesty can I please ask why you end a high percentage of your posts or sentences with "JS"? What does that even mean? I had typed this question out to you once before and then deleted prior to pressing send after not wanting to online battle with you or anyone for that matter but I would love to know....

[trixstar]

nevermind its on page 10 of the my account is a fraud in the basketball forum

[trixstar]

In all honesty can I please ask why you end a high percentage of your posts or sentences with "JS"? What does that even mean? I had typed this question out to you once before and then deleted prior to pressing send after not wanting to online battle with you or anyone for that matter but I would love to know....

it stands for just sayin it's a "thing" these days

[808buynsell808]

In all honesty can I please ask why you end a high percentage of your posts or sentences with "JS"? What does that even mean? I had typed this question out to you once before and then deleted prior to pressing send after not wanting to online battle with you or anyone for that matter but I would love to know....

Lol it means "just saying" nothing really just words

[penny1fan]

I asked this earlier but you never touched base on it with me/us ...


can you provide us with a picture of the beats out of the box with your username on a piece of paper? Just to atleast clear the thought of the whole giveaway being an endorsement fraud?

[sunsfan8]

Lol it means "just saying" nothing really just words

LMAO eye kno rite?! js dat js is da bomb! js

[Prospect Rush]

I asked this earlier but you never touched base on it with me/us ...


can you provide us with a picture of the beats out of the box with your username on a piece of paper? Just to atleast clear the thought of the whole giveaway being an endorsement fraud?

He can't answer at the moment he's at best buy buying another set...:o

[Razorsharp79]

Lol it means "just saying" nothing really just words

Did that Locker you have get a 10 auto? HMMM...pics would be nice

[Wings]

I asked this earlier but you never touched base on it with me/us ...


can you provide us with a picture of the beats out of the box with your username on a piece of paper? Just to atleast clear the thought of the whole giveaway being an endorsement fraud?

As far as im concerned this guy is completely busted.

Even if he has the beats he is still scum...

[BeingJustin]

How did I expect a post from you. I seriously wish you would go swimming without your floaties and............

Banned members say what?

[nuccionino]

Banned members say what?

You troll a ban member? That's sad haha

[saketm92]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk236/tennisace648/B5A63EFC-D613-44A4-BC1A-141F6CAD4E97-3893-00000196105F2816.jpg

[ninjacookies]

I must say, this was quite the elaborate scheme if it turns out this was all fraudulent.

Didn't want to say anything myself, but there were a lot of red flags. Like HUGE red flags.

Had all the makings of a Nigerian scam except there was actually money and free gifts fronted in this situation.

But the underlying theme in all these scams is the same: appeal to the emotions of the individual. In this case, the feel good notion of giveaways and giving to those less fortunate was ridiculously contagious on here, especially since it's the holiday season.

Four Common Stages of a Scam (internet or not) : tease, please, seize, squeeze, using mystery shopping scam as example (http://kschang.hubpages.com/hub/Four-Stages-of-a-Scam-tease-please-seize-squeeze)

[ninjacookies]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk236/tennisace648/B5A63EFC-D613-44A4-BC1A-141F6CAD4E97-3893-00000196105F2816.jpg

I wouldn't necessarily say this guy is involved in the scheme.

Could very well be Haiku did give away headphones. After all, what's the big deal if he only gives away ~1 or 2k worth of stuff in order to get 5 digits + in return?

One thing I would suggest though, is checking those headphones to see if they are genuine and not fake. Could easily be verified by doing some online research. Beats headphones are the most readily faked items on the market today.

[penny1fan]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk236/tennisace648/B5A63EFC-D613-44A4-BC1A-141F6CAD4E97-3893-00000196105F2816.jpg

Thank you this may not clear your name but atleast makes me feel a little better about that giveaway thread.That being said i do find other issues connecting you to him to be rather alarming.I know you openly admitted to doing what this guy groomed you to but the dates/conspiracy theory still does not add up to me.He seemed to do the most of his deals/giveaways with just a few members and you are one of them...could be complete bad luck on your behalf or simply your in on it all?I will no longer pile on until further facts appear.

[Prospect Rush]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk236/tennisace648/B5A63EFC-D613-44A4-BC1A-141F6CAD4E97-3893-00000196105F2816.jpg

Back from best buy so soon?

[penny1fan]

I wouldn't necessarily say this guy is involved in the scheme.

Could very well be Haiku did give away headphones. After all, what's the big deal if he only gives away ~1 or 2k worth of stuff in order to get 5 digits + in return?

One thing I would suggest though, is checking those headphones to see if they are genuine and not fake. Could easily be verified by doing some online research. Beats headphones are the most readily faked items on the market today.

I am pretty sure they have a serial number engraved on the steel alongside the right earphone.

[nickha2]

Those headphones were meant for him it's very obvious. Both people that received headphones are being questioned by everybody it's not a coincident

[WilsonValdez]

Guys, Saketm92 is not involved. He is a dupe, like many others.

This was a very elaborate scheme. "Haiku" is/was a very experienced scammer.

[ninjacookies]

I am pretty sure they have a serial number engraved on the steel alongside the right earphone.

The chinese are REALLY good at fakes nowadays. Sometimes it all comes down to certain minor details in the manual print or just a shade of color on the plastic. Quite scary, actually

[saketm92]

Thank you this may not clear your name but atleast makes me feel a little better about that giveaway thread.That being said i do find other issues connecting you to him to be rather alarming.I know you openly admitted to doing what this guy groomed you to but the dates/conspiracy theory still does not add up to me.He seemed to do the most of his deals/giveaways with just a few members and you are one of them...could be complete bad luck on your behalf or simply your in on it all?I will no longer pile on until further facts appear.

No worries. I know the truth, and I know it will come out in the end. I never defended him like others and was transparent with this. If I was on his "team" I would not tell everyone exactly what happened. Just my 2 cents, for what it is worth.

[Chaz]

The chinese are REALLY good at fakes nowadays. Sometimes it all comes down to certain minor details in the manual print or just a shade of color on the plastic. Quite scary, actually

That's a racist comment right there? Why does it always have to be the Chinese? Hahaha

[penny1fan]

The chinese are REALLY good at fakes nowadays. Sometimes it all comes down to certain minor details in the manual print or just a shade of color on the plastic. Quite scary, actually

exactly..i wanted to purchase some on EBAY and tried to do as much research as possible but could not come away feeling confident about buying them online ..I seen some darn good fakes on youtube and it scared me out of buying a pair.I am not gonna spend $300+ on headphones.My Sony's will have to do lol

[Strasburg]

Well crap happens doesnt change how generous he is

All the cards that he gave away were stolen....

[Qwasian]

if someone scammed for cards what makes you think they wouldn't scam for headphones? or better yet, if they don't pay for anything in the first place why would it be a big deal to give away things to perpetuate a scam?

[Chaz]

All of the Bilal powell cards he gave away were from me and were paid in full.

[wesnilevirus]

All of the Bilal powell cards he gave away were from me and were paid in full.

Well, I guess that makes one person Haiku didn't scam

[JonMead]

can someone PM me about what happen i am out of the loop?

[inbogowetrust]

HAHAHAHAHA EXCELLENT WORK!! Wish i could buy some knock off beats!!!

[ninjacookies]

Well, Bilal cards aren't exactly that 'expensive' :)

Like I said, if this was a scam...then for him to give away $1k worth of merchandise and paypal cash giveaways at the prospect of scamming for over $10k, then it was more than a fair tradeoff for him.

[thepistonsfan]

HAHAHAHAHA EXCELLENT WORK!! Wish i could buy some knock off beats!!!

PM me your address, phone number & social security number. I got you brother.

[Strasburg]

Well im glad the bilil contenders he gave me for my bday wasnt a scam

[Chaz]

Well, Bilal cards aren't exactly that 'expensive' :)

Like I said, if this was a scam...then for him to give away $1k worth of merchandise and paypal cash giveaways at the prospect of scamming for over $10k, then it was more than a fair tradeoff for him.

There were close to 50 Bilal Powell autos and there were selling decently at the time. I think he paid close to 400 for them

[sals_cardz]

so i havent been on in two days and i comeback and all this? im lost someone pm me the cliff notes please. thanks

[BoxBreaker72]

so i havent been on in two days and i comeback and all this? im lost someone pm me the cliff notes please. thanks

At this point cliff notes would be impossible... honest to god truth.

[HBMC]

Well hasn't BO just turned into a #@#@#@#@ed to death pile of burning caca?

Can't anything just be decent for once? :(

[zonacats8]

At this point cliff notes would be impossible... honest to god truth.

No kidding, a few friends have PM'd me asking for a quick version, I try to start it and realize that there really is no good way of doing a quick version in a good way that sums it all up, still ends up being pretty long and incomplete if you haven't followed it all day

[wesnilevirus]

so i havent been on in two days and i comeback and all this? im lost someone pm me the cliff notes please. thanks

Not that hard...

1. Haiku gives unbelievable deals on quicksales/lots (these same cards were likely stolen from members here)
2. Haiku has "contests" for free items (these contests were actually fixed, winners were shills that help him perpetuate his scheme.)
3. Building on goodwill that was bought and not earned, Haiku sells mystery "lots" that are sold for up to several thousand, never delivers.
4. People on blowout are scammed for money.
5. Substitute "Haiku" for "Fanbro", works out similarly
6. In 1-2 years, this exact same thing will happen again, capitializing on member greed/gullibility

[zonacats8]

Not that hard...

1. Haiku gives unbelievable deals on quicksales/lots (these same cards were likely stolen from members here)
2. Haiku has "contests" for free items (these contests were actually fixed, winners were shills that help him perpetuate his scheme.)
3. Building on goodwill that was bought and not earned, Haiku sells mystery "lots" that are sold for up to several thousand, never delivers.
4. People on blowout are scammed for money.
5. Substitute "Haiku" for "Fanbro", works out similarly
6. In 1-2 years, this exact same thing will happen again, capitializing on member greed/gullibility

Yes, you did summarize it, but only parts, there is WAY more to the story that is very relevant if you want to know what is really going on, which is why the abridged version doesn't work very well for this

[geezhound]

The major lesson learned is that this is an internet forum and you shouldn't really trust anyone without protecting yourself to some degree.
I couldn't understand why people were riding Haiku's magic wand so hard that they wanted to actually start sending the freakin' guy gifts!!:rolleyes:

If something is too good to be true, it probably is.

If somebody wants to be a keyboard Mother Theresa, that's great. But don't buy into it and start worshiping them like it's the 2nd coming of Christ.

[Burt-Reynolds]

The major lesson learned is that this is an internet forum and you shouldn't really trust anyone without protecting yourself to some degree.
I couldn't understand why people were riding Haiku's magic wand so hard that they wanted to actually start sending the freakin' guy gifts!!:rolleyes:

If something is too good to be true, it probably is.

If somebody wants to be a keyboard Mother Theresa, that's great. But don't buy into it and start worshiping them like it's the 2nd coming of Christ.

cause people are sheep and when they are getting supposedly free stuff they become hypnotized. this guy could of started a cult and would have had 1/4 of this forum follow him. it's basic manipulation. i would get disgusted reading his giveaway threads. i posted in the beats one once and felt dirty after and never did it again. then his giveaway about doing charity, that really disgusted me. everyone was falling all over themselves selling out the good deeds they did from the heart and demeaning themselves all in the name of free swag.

[88horsepower]

That's a damn shame about Haiku if it's true. I want to be completely clear that I'm in no way defending him in any way, but wouldn't it be fair to say that for people to blindly believe that he's some kind of saint is equal to people blindly believing he's some sort of thief? If he was scheming people and so many people here knew about it, why wasn't anything done about him earlier? Do people have hard evidence, not mere speculation, that he did indeed steal from people? If so, he should be brought up on serious charges.

[WilsonValdez]

cause people are sheep and when they are getting supposedly free stuff they become hypnotized. this guy could of started a cult and would have had 1/4 of this forum follow him. it's basic manipulation. i would get disgusted reading his giveaway threads. i posted in the beats one once and felt dirty after and never did it again. then his giveaway about doing charity, that really disgusted me. everyone was falling all over themselves selling out the good deeds they did from the heart and demeaning themselves all in the name of free swag.

Wow, this is completely truth. Almost exactly my feelings.

I did the same thing in the beats thread. People will literally do ANYTHING shameless for free stuff on here. So many people were "OMG HAIKU FOR PRESIDENT, NATIONAL HAIKU DAY, I LOVE YOU HAIKU"...it was pathetic.

I stopped entering almost all his contests because the fawning and slobbering made me nauseous.

[mindbinge]

That's a damn shame about Haiku if it's true. I want to be completely clear that I'm in no way defending him in any way, but wouldn't it be fair to say that for people to blindly believe that he's some kind of saint is equal to people blindly believing he's some sort of thief? If he was scheming people and so many people here knew about it, why wasn't anything done about him earlier? Do people have hard evidence, not mere speculation, that he did indeed steal from people? If so, he should be brought up on serious charges.

because thats how a scam works...all is well until the wheels come off.

[geezhound]

Wow, this is completely truth. Almost exactly my feelings.

I did the same thing in the beats thread. People will literally do ANYTHING shameless for free stuff on here. So many people were "OMG HAIKU FOR PRESIDENT, NATIONAL HAIKU DAY, I LOVE YOU HAIKU"...it was pathetic.

I stopped entering almost all his contests because the fawning and slobbering made me nauseous.

LOL! I was hoping I wasn't the only one getting ready to vomit when I read all the disgusting displays of knob-slobbery just to beg for free stuff.

[88horsepower]

because thats how a scam works...all is well until the wheels come off.

Oh, I know that. How did the wheels come off is my question. And if they did, why is he not being brought up on charges? Or is he?

[mindbinge]

Oh, I know that. How did the wheels come off is my question. And if they did, why is he not being brought up on charges? Or is he?

to early on to tell what will happen...but everything kinda broke over the past couple of days...a bunch of threads about it now and a lot of reading to do if you want to know the whole story...its a mess.

The wheels came off mostly when he sold a lot of high end mystery lots and people blindly sent him money after a lot of sales and giveaways...turns out most of the sales and free stuff was stolen....it reads like a movie script.:eek:

[Burt-Reynolds]

Wow, this is completely truth. Almost exactly my feelings.

I did the same thing in the beats thread. People will literally do ANYTHING shameless for free stuff on here. So many people were "OMG HAIKU FOR PRESIDENT, NATIONAL HAIKU DAY, I LOVE YOU HAIKU"...it was pathetic.

I stopped entering almost all his contests because the fawning and slobbering made me nauseous.

yeah man. when the let's do something for haiku threads started it was all i could do not to post and tell people how stupid and pathetic they sounded.

i mean i will admit i never thought he would end up a scammer. funny enough i thought he was a genuinely good person in the few conversations i had with him. but i just always knew it wasn't going to end well for him, but i thought it would be because of the sheer weight of all the freeloading brokedicks constantly coming at him would cause him to snap and lose his sh!t. and at first that is what it seemed happened with the go kill yourself tirade. i just thought the weight of all the people with their hands out to him finally got to him.

unfortunately for many he ended up being a huge scammer scumbag instead. thank god i'm not a weak minded idiot and never got caught up in the hype though, people say that no one likes a cynical a$$hole, but i tell you man more and more in this crazy world we live in it pays to be one.

[88horsepower]

to early on to tell what will happen...but everything kinda broke over the past couple of days...a bunch of threads about it now and a lot of reading to do if you want to know the whole story...its a mess.

The wheels came off mostly when he sold a lot of high end mystery lots and people blindly sent him money after a lot of sales and giveaways...turns out most of the sales and free stuff was stolen....it reads like a movie script.:eek:

Man, that's just f**ked up Keyser Sose craziness right there. So let me see if I've got it...the guy acted like he was Jesus Christ, giving away all kinds of stuff (that was mostly stolen), building up a major following for his "goodwill" all leading up to a blowoff that involved him taking members of this forum for thousands of dollars on fake lots?

[mindbinge]

Man, that's just f**ked up Keyser Sose craziness right there. So let me see if I've got it...the guy acted like he was Jesus Christ, giving away all kinds of stuff (that was mostly stolen), building up a major following for his "goodwill" all leading up to a blowoff that involved him taking members of this forum for thousands of dollars on fake lots?

all that and more it appears...:eek:

[Burt-Reynolds]

Man, that's just f**ked up Keyser Sose craziness right there. So let me see if I've got it...the guy acted like he was Jesus Christ, giving away all kinds of stuff (that was mostly stolen), building up a major following for his "goodwill" all leading up to a blowoff that involved him taking members of this forum for thousands of dollars on fake lots?

i hate to admit it, but this was some professional grifter movie magic type sh!t. he played it note perfect, and there was not one flaw in his game. it's just a shame someone this gifted chooses to use his amazing skills for evil, lol.

[88horsepower]

all that and more it appears...:eek:

At the expense of sounding like a rubbernecking jerk, I'd love to know the details on this and how the wheels all came off without searching every single Haiku thread there is (and God knows there are a ton of 'em).

[cking]

LOL! I was hoping I wasn't the only one getting ready to vomit when I read all the disgusting displays of knob-slobbery just to beg for free stuff.

Me and another member would be messaging back and forth, we were laughing at first but then I was almost feeling humiliated for the hobby as a whole. I would stab myself in the neck with a rusty scalpel before I begged for free cards on a message board. If you work and cannot afford cards, get a second job. If you dont work and cannot afford cards, get a first job. There are solutions out there but you have to get off the couch and put the x-box down for awhile. I have an 11 yr. old nephew. who does my scanning and ebay listing for me. He mows lawns, he shovels snow, he helps people move. He earns his money. Hes a great kid with fantastic character. He is gonna hit it big when he hits adulthood. Some people just have "IT". And he has it.

[mindbinge]

At the expense of sounding like a rubbernecking jerk, I'd love to know the details on this and how the wheels all came off without searching every single Haiku thread there is (and God knows there are a ton of 'em).

the problem with that is, you pretty much HAVE to read them all to figure the whole thing out...it's very interesting how he worked this whole thing.

The problem is trying to figure out what order you need to read them in...thats where the mess comes in to play.

just get yourself a snickers and a coke and sit down and start reading lol.

[88horsepower]

the problem with that is, you pretty much HAVE to read them all to figure the whole thing out...it's very interesting how he worked this whole thing.

The problem is trying to figure out what order you need to read them in...thats where the mess comes in to play.

just get yourself a snickers and a coke and sit down and start reading lol.

Heh, maybe someday.

Well, it's really a damn shame so many people bought into it. I'll admit, just skimming the boards here he seemed like a nice fellow. Damn shame he turned out to be a criminal. I just can't relate to how people like that can sleep at night knowing how they're taking serious advantage of people. May the law catch up with him soon. :cool:

[Army19K]

i hate to admit it, but this was some professional grifter movie magic type sh!t. he played it note perfect, and there was not one flaw in his game. it's just a shame someone this gifted chooses to use his amazing skills for evil, lol.

I honestly think it got ended a little earlier than he planned, there was starting to be some rumblings in posts about how some things didnt add up, but then gatortool and his crew would come in screaming about how dare anybody question the great and powerful Haiku. The threads were getting pathetic, with the games he played, the talk good, then talk sh!t about people, it was just a big game.......

[mcgahee21nfl]

cause people are sheep and when they are getting supposedly free stuff they become hypnotized. this guy could of started a cult and would have had 1/4 of this forum follow him. it's basic manipulation. i would get disgusted reading his giveaway threads. i posted in the beats one once and felt dirty after and never did it again. then his giveaway about doing charity, that really disgusted me. everyone was falling all over themselves selling out the good deeds they did from the heart and demeaning themselves all in the name of free swag.

you're the best, the rest of us are sheep, one day i aspire to be as great as you tell us you are. thanks for the compassion per usual

[hugh]

i hate to admit it, but this was some professional grifter movie magic type sh!t. he played it note perfect, and there was not one flaw in his game. it's just a shame someone this gifted chooses to use his amazing skills for evil, lol.

it's easier than working for a living

[ccrab1984]

i hate to admit it, but this was some professional grifter movie magic type sh!t. He played it note perfect, and there was not one flaw in his game. It's just a shame someone this gifted chooses to use his amazing skills for evil, lol.

it may not have been perfect, it seems he set himself up to have a reason out that people would give him more credit for the delay in shipping the lots. Enough time for money to clear paypal and be scott free, however if the money hasnt cleared yet as of when his account was frozen he may not have made out with anything other than what was sent as gift. Im just glad i didnt jump on a lot, my first day back on the forum i saw his thread and sent him a pm asking what i could expect from his mystery lots. He gave me some mumbo jumbo about if i had to ask the lots werent for me and i would get way more than i paid for. I looked into him and he seemed like a good guy so i almost pulled the trigger but my better judgement told me to just spend my money on ebay and get what i want

[allday_vikes]

it's easier than working for a living

BINGO! Scamming is the easy way out, anyone with half a brain can do it with a little planning.

[rangerfan19]

I would love to know his final tally at the end of the day. I remember when he posted the lots and being curious about them, but I haven't made a single deal on this site and wasn't about to make a "mystery lot" my first. I remember him putting up quantites avaiable, but clearly he was selling as many as he could; and without a trade manager there is no way to tell how many people actually bought into these. Just disgusting to think about...

[nickha2]

I would estimate the loss on this site with stolen cards and stolen money to be around $30,000. This guy did everything smoothly and this was not the first time he did this either so im sure he made at least $100,000 from multiple sites / scams

[1eyed_jack]

I would estimate the loss on this site with stolen cards and stolen money to be around $30,000. This guy did everything smoothly and this was not the first time he did this either so im sure he made at least $100,000 from multiple sites / scams

So what did he do exactly? The Cliffnotes version?

[ccrab1984]

so what did he do exactly? The cliffnotes version?

start reading any thread with his name involved you'll get the gist

[1eyed_jack]

I'm assuming he just built up this great reputation and then when people trusted him took complete advantage of that

[Jackg1980]

I would estimate the loss on this site with stolen cards and stolen money to be around $30,000. This guy did everything smoothly and this was not the first time he did this either so im sure he made at least $100,000 from multiple sites / scams

Its way more the 30K. 2 people only lost that amount in cards and cash.

[1eyed_jack]

So can any legit members actually confirm that they got any of the "great" cards he was giving away?

[Jackg1980]

So can any legit members actually confirm that they got any of the "great" cards he was giving away?

They have but they were all stolen in trades. At least all the ones I seen. Its alll in the thread.

[1eyed_jack]

They have but they were all stolen in trades. At least all the ones I seen. Its alll in the thread.

Aaah, gotcha. wow.

That's really messed up

[Jackg1980]

Aaah, gotcha. wow.

That's really messed up

Some owners are getting their cards back slowly. He would tell them the cards are still getting graded to delay him sending his part of the deal.

[DaBears 1985]

Anyone want to summarize this thread for me? :)

[sharkman17]

This is why I got out of card collecting. Too many people that you just can't trust anymore. I only collected for a couple of years most recently, but would always seem to be losing money due to people scamming. Not even worth it in the long run.

The last straw was when I would sell some cards and people were complaining that the card I sent couldn't be graded a 9 or 9.5. "How am I supposed to grade this as a 9.5? It may get 9, but probably an 8.5". Never any mention of the condition needing to be of high standards and I would also take high quality pics of my cards when selling. I would mention if there were ever any flaws on the card, but I guess people get buyers remorse and always try to pull a fast one.

Another last straw is when I sent first to a member that had very good feedback and he was going to pay me on payday. Then all of a sudden he is banned and several people lost out on deals with him. It just goes to show you can't trust anyone on an internet forum.

Lastly, I feel sorry for the people who got duped, but can't imagine why people would fork over that much money blindly. Hopefully paypal can do something for you all. I hope this Haiku SOB gets what's coming to him.

[chrisfaceoff]

Not that hard...

1. Haiku gives unbelievable deals on quicksales/lots (these same cards were likely stolen from members here)
2. Haiku has "contests" for free items (these contests were actually fixed, winners were shills that help him perpetuate his scheme.)
3. Building on goodwill that was bought and not earned, Haiku sells mystery "lots" that are sold for up to several thousand, never delivers.
4. People on blowout are scammed for money.
5. Substitute "Haiku" for "Fanbro", works out similarly
6. In 1-2 years, this exact same thing will happen again, capitializing on member greed/gullibility

Just took a little offense to this. I was actually a winner in one of his contests(Bilal Powell cards). I am not affiliated with this in any way whatsoever.

I never enter any giveaways for anything unless it s a jets card that will only be for myself and no one else. Heck I gto a contenders and SPA auto and since I dont collect college, I gave it away to someone else on here along with 3 other cards. I dont like to take away from people who might want that card for their own collections, but what really ticks me off about these boards lately, is the fact some topics will not get much response, but if there is a giveaway, the world stops turning and just about everyone who was ever issued a username will post in there to get something for free. Truthfully it is patetic. Joe Schmo could put up a Marcus Easly auto or jersey contest, and within the next 2 hours the thread will be 8 pages long full of "why not" "I'm in, thanks" It's terrible.

Now dont get me wrong there are plenty of great members on here but lets face it there is also a bunch of "fluff" too.

[suki24]

Anybody who I don't even know sends me free stuff, my first suspicion is it's stolen or has a crush on me.

[ginger4life17]

I would appreciate if someone could pm about what is going on I have quite a bit of change in Haikus hands right now which from the looks of it I won't be seeing
-Joe