So Lebron won't do a dunk contest....

[1eyed_jack]

But does these during pregame warmups?


Lebron James With A Crazy Dunk During Pre-Game! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMFkLJK_Fy0)

LeBron James shows off another Pre-Game dunk - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHmIZcV3OOY)


Great dunks by Lebron, no doubt about, but again, begs the question, why not to a dunk contest? Clearly it's got nothing to do with fear of injury

[asujbl]

Maybe he just doesn't want to. Good enough reason for me.

[8lakers24]

But does these during pregame warmups?


Lebron James With A Crazy Dunk During Pre-Game! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMFkLJK_Fy0)

LeBron James shows off another Pre-Game dunk - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHmIZcV3OOY)


Great dunks by Lebron, no doubt about, but again, begs the question, why not to a dunk contest? Clearly it's got nothing to do with fear of injury

becasue people like you and skip bayless continue to cry about it, its probably entertainment for him

[murrke03]

Lol at people complaining about this.

[RandysHobby]

That first one was sick.

[Chaddie84]

That first one was sick.
Agreed...one of the coolest trick dunks I've seen in a while.

The clip would have been 3x more sick if the guy knew how to hold an iPhone for taking video.

[Cades]

I'd like to see some of the best players do the dunk contest, not scrubs. But not worried that they don't want to do it, just choose not to watch it.

[byronscott4ever]

I don't usually support Lebron but I'm on his side on this one although I didn't like him saying he was going to stop doing it then, sounded a bit "pouty" but whatever. Does that mean that every player who makes a 3 pointer or two in warmups has to be invited to that as well? What I like is that it's bringing people to the game earlier to see what he does and isn't that what really matters--that people are coming to see him play? If I'm the NBA, I ask him every year to come and then see if he accepts and leave it at that.

[jj2]

Great dunks by Lebron, no doubt about, but again, begs the question, why not to a dunk contest?

I'm guessing because he doesn't want to. What other reason does he need?

[imapippenfan]

I actually appreciate him having fun during warmups and giving the fans a show.

I could careless about the dunk contest ... and so does LeBron.

[wheeler281]

Gets people to their seats on time. He is doing his team and owner a favor.

[IamRalpho]

He should do the dunk contest, a lot of the stars should, he used to talk about it. He and others are afraid of losing, their sponsors are too.

Cant get mad at them for not doing it, just disappointing.

[MikeMamba]

too much pressure for him maybe?

[realreodeal]

He should do the dunk contest, a lot of the stars should, he used to talk about it. He and others are afraid of losing, their sponsors are too.

Cant get mad at them for not doing it, just disappointing.

The sponsors don't care if a player loses an All Star exhibition. Your comment makes no sense. If anything being in the contest adds to the sponsors marketability. Some if you may not remember but Dee Brown wore the Reebok Pumps and pumped then up before one of his dunks and Reebok sold a ton of shoes and got so much promotion from that display. It went viral before there was even an Internet.

Sponsors want to see their players compete, that is why they pay them the big bucks.

[byronscott4ever]

He's also got nothing to gain from it. If he doesn't win, he'd probably get toasted and if he does, it's not a shock. Let the younger guys making a name from themselves do it.

[IamRalpho]

The sponsors don't care if a player loses an All Star exhibition. Your comment makes no sense. If anything being in the contest adds to the sponsors marketability. Some if you may not remember but Dee Brown wore the Reebok Pumps and pumped then up before one of his dunks and Reebok sold a ton of shoes and got so much promotion from that display. It went viral before there was even an Internet.

Sponsors want to see their players compete, that is why they pay them the big bucks.

Uhh yeah they do. You mean to tell me Nike or whomever Lebron is with doesnt worry he might lose to someone like Jeremy Evans? Of course it makes sense, no sponsor wants their main guy to lose to the likes of Jeremy Evans and Nate Robinson on national TV.

What does Dee Brown winning 20 years ago have to do Nike saying "No Lebron, we dont want you losing to Gerald Green in the Slam Dunk contest"?

Considering its a fan vote, he wont lose but trust me I am sure he has pressure from people not to do it to save face. I am sure there are other reasons, but this is def one too.

[realreodeal]

Uhh yeah they do. You mean to tell me Nike or whomever Lebron is with doesnt worry he might lose to someone like Jeremy Evans? Of course it makes sense, no sponsor wants their main guy to lose to the likes of Jeremy Evans and Nate Robinson on national TV.

What does Dee Brown winning 20 years ago have to do Nike saying "No Lebron, we dont want you losing to Gerald Green in the Slam Dunk contest"?

Considering its a fan vote, he wont lose but trust me I am sure he has pressure from people not to do it to save face. I am sure there are other reasons, but this is def one too.

Please show me something from Nike saying they don't want him in the contest. You made that ridiculous claim, now back it up.

By the way, the Reebok Pumps are iconic with much do to that contest.

[XARZY]

If there was a larger group of stars commited to the dunk contest, it would probably work out better. if the all stars don't want to do it for charity then the nba should let the charity know about it. I.E. tell the charity that the player has received a formal invitation to participate on their behalf in the dunk contest with winnings going to them (charity). Then the players will be more inclined to participating. Get 5-6 all stars roped in like this and boom, you get a nice dunk comp.

[bdoody42]

I don't think you can be mad at Lebron for not entering... Just disspoainted....I know I am.

[IamRalpho]

Please show me something from Nike saying they don't want him in the contest. You made that ridiculous claim, now back it up.

By the way, the Reebok Pumps are iconic with much do to that contest.

Darren Rovell had something on it, but its common sense. Nike isnt going to come out and say "We dont want Lebron in the contest because it might hurt his brand"

Gimme a break, use common sense for once. You think they'd be happy if he lost to scrubs in the dunk contest? Honestly, answer that. Please. Do you think it would hurt his image?

Dee Brown and Lebron James and your comparison arent the same, Dee Brown as much as I loved him was a borderline NBA player, and again, he was doing the dunk contest when actual stars participated.

[JOHNJOHNNY]

I think it is a control issue, it is basically the one thing he still has control over the fans who hate him and the media. I think it is just a game for him, give the people just enough, but keep them wanting for more!

Besides, Skip Bayless and half the turds on this board would just make excuses like, "Ohh look, Lebron beat out some scrubs, he didn't beat, Kobe, j richardson, etc,. This doesn't compare to Jordan doing the contest.

I like it that he is telling people to go suck lemons.

[murrke03]

Darren Rovell had something on it, but its common sense. Nike isnt going to come out and say "We dont want Lebron in the contest because it might hurt his brand"

Gimme a break, use common sense for once. You think they'd be happy if he lost to scrubs in the dunk contest? Honestly, answer that. Please. Do you think it would hurt his image?

Dee Brown and Lebron James and your comparison arent the same, Dee Brown as much as I loved him was a borderline NBA player, and again, he was doing the dunk contest when actual stars participated.

This is pretty lame reasoning. Even if he lost the dunk contest it wouldn't 'hurt his brand'.

Lebrons brand has already been through things 20x worse then losing s dunk contest.

Maybe they should tell him to stop going for blocks in games so he doesn't get dunked on and hurt his brand. Maybe they should tell him to only attempt dunks so his missed shots don't hurt his brand. Lol

[XARZY]

I think it is a control issue, it is basically the one thing he still has control over the fans who hate him and the media. I think it is just a game for him, give the people just enough, but keep them wanting for more!

Besides, Skip Bayless and half the turds on this board would just make excuses like, "Ohh look, Lebron beat out some scrubs, he didn't beat, Kobe, j richardson, etc,. This doesn't compare to Jordan doing the contest.

I like it that he is telling people to go suck lemons.

Another reason Kobe > Lebron. Kobe DID the dunk contest and didn't need to 'keep the people wanting for more' and look how kobe's career has panned out. if a player is unsure of himself, then that's one thing but to 'keep people wanting more' sounds like a bitchh play for someone who is supposed to be the best in the game

[asujbl]

Another reason Kobe > Lebron. Kobe DID the dunk contest and didn't need to 'keep the people wanting for more' and look how kobe's career has panned out.

And Kobe is thankful that no one remembers that dunk contest.

Kobe sucked in that thing. Everyone else just sucked more.

I was there live for that one in Cleveland. Top 3 worst dunk contest of all time without question.

Kobe is just lucky people forget he even did it.

[XARZY]

if LeBron wants to be the best in history, then he better make it official, otherwise he will forever go down in history as the great in game dunker who never had the balls to enter a dunk contest. All the great dunkers in history have done the dunk contest, if Lebron doesn't do it, it speaks volumes to how much he cares about what fans want.

[xavieronly1]

I don't know about you guys. That between the leg dunk would not get 50 in the dunk contest due to high expectation. And I'm not sure Lebron is a creative dunker who can come up with 4 amazing dunks for 1 night. He is like a kind of guy who would dunk it for 2 points, not going for fancy dunk (aka mcgee off the board or from the freethrow line during the game).

[XARZY]

And Kobe is thankful that no one remembers that dunk contest.

Kobe sucked in that thing. Everyone else just sucked more.

I was there live for that one in Cleveland. Top 3 worst dunk contest of all time without question.

Kobe is just lucky people forget he even did it.

yea but he managed to pull the one memorable dunk that will forever continue to be played back on espn and the history of the Dunk competition's highlight reels. That's enough for anyone including kobe.

[realreodeal]

Darren Rovell had something on it, but its common sense. Nike isnt going to come out and say "We dont want Lebron in the contest because it might hurt his brand"

Gimme a break, use common sense for once. You think they'd be happy if he lost to scrubs in the dunk contest? Honestly, answer that. Please. Do you think it would hurt his image?

Dee Brown and Lebron James and your comparison arent the same, Dee Brown as much as I loved him was a borderline NBA player, and again, he was doing the dunk contest when actual stars participated.

Jordan was in numerous dunk contests and did not win them all. Kobe also lost in the dunk contest. Did either of their images go down the tubes?

You are the one with not very much common sense. Don't be so narrow minded.

[xavieronly1]

And Kobe is thankful that no one remembers that dunk contest.

Kobe sucked in that thing. Everyone else just sucked more.

I was there live for that one in Cleveland. Top 3 worst dunk contest of all time without question.

Kobe is just lucky people forget he even did it.

That contest was the worst. NBA even had to cancel the next year dunk contest to think what else they could do.

[xavieronly1]

yea but he managed to pull the one memorable dunk that will forever continue to be played back on espn and the history of the Dunk competition's highlight reels. That's enough for anyone including kobe.

Kobe was not even the first guy who did the between the leg dunk. His between the leg dunk, perhaps, is the weakest out of all dunks. Oh yeah, I don't even remember what other dunk he did.

[IamRalpho]

Jordan was in numerous dunk contests and did not win them all. Kobe also lost in the dunk contest. Did either of their images go down the tubes?

You are the one with not very much common sense. Don't be so narrow minded.

Twenty years ago Jordan was in the dunk contest, different times. Nice try though.

How am I being narrow minded saying its a possibility yet you are telling me now way? Sounds like you are the narrow minded one?

Who was the last star to do the dunk contest? Blake, and thats it. No Kobe, or Lebron and theres a reason.

Think what you want, but being narrow minded like yourself would only bring up Dee Brown (Which still doesnt go with this debate) and ignore the possibility that his sponsors dont want him losing to Jeremy Evans.

[realreodeal]

Twenty years ago Jordan was in the dunk contest, different times. Nice try though.

How am I being narrow minded saying its a possibility yet you are telling me now way? Sounds like you are the narrow minded one?

Who was the last star to do the dunk contest? Blake, and thats it. No Kobe, or Lebron and theres a reason.

Think what you want, but being narrow minded like yourself would only bring up Dee Brown (Which still doesnt go with this debate) and ignore the possibility that his sponsors dont want him losing to Jeremy Evans.

Jordan Lost, Kobe Lost, Dominque Lost, Dwight Howard Lost many Stars have lost. That has nothing to do with losing or hurting any sponsorships.

That is a FACT. Think what you will but the truth remains that Sponsors want their players in these contests, especially if they can use their brand to their advantage, a la Dee Brown and the Reebok Pump. I brought that up because that was the ultimate FREE Brand Marketing they could get.

[xavieronly1]

Jordan was in numerous dunk contests and did not win them all. Kobe also lost in the dunk contest. Did either of their images go down the tubes?

You are the one with not very much common sense. Don't be so narrow minded.

Just to be fair, Nike was like a startup company back in 1986. If not MJ, they couldn't get over 80% marketing share today on sneakers. I'm sure they would do anything (including paying the fine for Air Jordan 1) to make sure MJ goes to dunk contest.

The same would go for Adidas and Reebok. They would do whatever they can to push their stars to wear new sneakers and show on national TV. That includes Kia too.

Perhaps, today, Nike is already top of the world, there is really nothing else to gain. Then, there is not much of demanding from Nike to push Lebron to do dunk contest.

[asujbl]

Jordan Lost, Kobe Lost, Dominque Lost, Dwight Howard Lost many Stars have lost. That has nothing to do with losing or hurting any sponsorships.

That is a FACT. Think what you will but the truth remains that Sponsors want their players in these contests, especially if they can use their brand to their advantage, ala Dee Brown and the Reebok Pump. I borugh that up because that was the ultimate FREE Brand Marketing they could get.

Just to clarify - since you've said it twice - Kobe has never lost a dunk contest. He's only done it once.

[realreodeal]

Just to clarify - since you've said it twice - Kobe has never lost a dunk contest. He's only done it once.

I apologize for that. Does anyone know if Vince lost any?

[Orangejello727]

Jordan Lost, Kobe Lost, Dominque Lost, Dwight Howard Lost many Stars have lost. That has nothing to do with losing or hurting any sponsorships.

That is a FACT. Think what you will but the truth remains that Sponsors want their players in these contests, especially if they can use their brand to their advantage, a la Dee Brown and the Reebok Pump. I brought that up because that was the ultimate FREE Brand Marketing they could get.

But but but you cant have Lebron lose. Lebron doesnt lose! He only wins! I mean if he loses in a dunk contest, who would they blame? lol Cant take that chance. You might send the Lebron huggers off the deep end and they might do something that society would regret.

My take: If he cant be the best or noted at #1, he wont attempt it. There is no trying. Its either #1 or not trying it for Lebron.

Thats not hating on lebron, that telling it like it is. He seems like a guy that will only attempt something so as long as he is the best at it. He will not partake in any activities that might leave him sub par.

And VC has only done one dunk contest I think.

[murrke03]

if LeBron wants to be the best in history, then he better make it official, otherwise he will forever go down in history as the great in game dunker who never had the balls to enter a dunk contest. All the great dunkers in history have done the dunk contest, if Lebron doesn't do it, it speaks volumes to how much he cares about what fans want.

Why didn't Kobe ever enter it when he was a good player in the league?

He was a scrub when he was in it.

[murrke03]

But but but you cant have Lebron lose. Lebron doesnt lose! He only wins! I mean if he loses in a dunk contest, who would they blame? lol Cant take that chance. You might send the Lebron huggers off the deep end and they might do something that society would regret.

My take: If he cant be the best or noted at #1, he wont attempt it. There is no trying. Its either #1 or not trying it for Lebron.

Thats not hating on lebron, that telling it like it is. He seems like a guy that will only attempt something so as long as he is the best at it. He will not partake in any activities that might leave him sub par.

And VC has only done one dunk contest I think.


Yawn shocking a troll comes in to hate.

[asujbl]

Why didn't Kobe ever enter it when he was a good player in the league?

He was a scrub when he was in it.

Good point. He was a rookie when he did it. Ray Allen was in the Slam Dunk that year as well which I bet no one remembers.

Plenty of rookies enter the dunk contest hoping to make a name for themselves.

Kobe was a solid 7 & 2 guy that year. He wasn't a star yet.

[Orangejello727]

Good point. He was a rookie when he did it. Ray Allen was in the Slam Dunk that year as well which I bet no one remembers.

Plenty of rookies enter the dunk contest hoping to make a name for themselves.

Kobe was a solid 7 & 2 guy that year. He wasn't a star yet.

Do player get to choose to be in it or are they invited to participate? Was kobe invited and he declined?

I was under the impression that players are pre selected and invied to participate and not anyone and everyone is welcome to participate.

[murrke03]

Good point. He was a rookie when he did it. Ray Allen was in the Slam Dunk that year as well which I bet no one remembers.

Plenty of rookies enter the dunk contest hoping to make a name for themselves.

Kobe was a solid 7 & 2 guy that year. He wasn't a star yet.

Exactly. Kobe was 'a nobody' when he entered the dunk contest. He wasn't the best player in the league.

It's a stupid comparison.

[asujbl]

Do player get to choose to be in it or are they invited to participate? Was kobe invited and he declined?

I was under the impression that players are pre selected and invied to participate and not anyone and everyone is welcome to participate.

That I don't know the answer to - but Murrke is right in that comparing LeBron in year 10 is not the same as comparing Kobe in year 1.

Kobe in year 1 was just a HS kid that wanted to make a name for himself. Kobe never did the contest in his "prime"

Same reason Ray Allen did it. No chance he'd do it again.

LeBron should have done it at 19 or 20 years old - not when he's an established MVP.

The whole debate is comical to me.

[forgiven1]

Too much pressure for him!..No confidence!...He's afraid he's gonna choke!

[Orangejello727]

You get invited to the dunk contest. You dont just walk up and say "im doing it"

So for the homer that asked the question why kobe never did it after that one year? Because he wasnt pre selected/invited to the dunk contest after that year!

Big difference between "Declining" to do the contest after being invited vs not being invited to participate and hating a player for it.

If you also look at who does the dunk contest? Youll notice its usually young rookies. THe year after their rookie season, the get invited. In some cases its their rookie year.

[murrke03]

That I don't know the answer to - but Murrke is right in that comparing LeBron in year 10 is not the same as comparing Kobe in year 1.

Kobe in year 1 was just a HS kid that wanted to make a name for himself. Kobe never did the contest in his "prime"

Same reason Ray Allen did it. No chance he'd do it again.

LeBron should have done it at 19 or 20 years old - not when he's an established MVP.

The whole debate is comical to me.

Exactly. Just another thing the haters try to play up when there isn't really an honest comparison.

[murrke03]

You get invited to the dunk contest. You dont just walk up and say "im doing it"

So for the homer that asked the question why kobe never did it after that one year? Because he wasnt pre selected/invited to the dunk contest after that year!

Big difference between "Declining" to do the contest after being invited vs not being invited to participate and hating a player for it.

Lol so if lebron said he wanted to do it they could not invite him.

You have no clue what you are talking about.

Players campaign to get in dunk contest.

[asujbl]

You get invited to the dunk contest. You dont just walk up and say "im doing it"

So for the homer that asked the question why kobe never did it after that one year? Because he wasnt pre selected/invited to the dunk contest after that year!

Big difference between "Declining" to do the contest after being invited vs not being invited to participate and hating a player for it.

If you also look at who does the dunk contest? Youll notice its usually young rookies. THe year after their rookie season, the get invited. In some cases its their rookie year.

Back this up if you're going to say it.

[Orangejello727]

Exactly. Just another thing the haters try to play up when there isn't really an honest comparison.

Whos comparing kobe to lebron in dunking. Stop putting words in peoples mouths. I never said it. When did I say it? Show me where I said kobe dunks better than Lebron?:)!:)!:)!:)!:)!

[murrke03]

Whos comparing kobe to lebron in dunking. Stop putting words in peoples mouths. I never said it. When did I say it? Show me where I said kobe dunks better than Lebron?:)!:)!:)!:)!:)!

People said lebron can't be as great as Kobe because he's never done a dunk contest.

Or lebron isn't as good because he's never done a dunk contest.

Or Kobe is cooler because he actually has done s dunk contest.

That has all been said. So sorry I'm not putting words in your mouth. That's what you do. Not me.

And I thought you were ignorining me and done with me? Lol

[xavieronly1]

I apologize for that. Does anyone know if Vince lost any?

Vince Carter only went to one dunk contest and he won.

[xavieronly1]

Back this up if you're going to say it.

He wouldn't. He makes false statement everyday.

[Cades]

I don't know about you guys. That between the leg dunk would not get 50 in the dunk contest due to high expectation. And I'm not sure Lebron is a creative dunker who can come up with 4 amazing dunks for 1 night. He is like a kind of guy who would dunk it for 2 points, not going for fancy dunk (aka mcgee off the board or from the freethrow line during the game).


It would get damn close to a 50, so much power behind that dunk as much as anything, too.

I'm sure Lebron can handle thinking of 4 dunks to do in a dunk contest

[murrke03]

He wouldn't. He makes false statement everyday.

And then POOF when someone points out the false statements.

[Orangejello727]

People said lebron can't be as great as Kobe because he's never done a dunk contest.

Or lebron isn't as good because he's never done a dunk contest.

Or Kobe is cooler because he actually has done s dunk contest.

That has all been said. So sorry I'm not putting words in your mouth. That's what you do. Not me.

And I thought you were ignorining me and done with me? Lol

Where did they say that in this thread? Stop making false accusations. I never said that. Where did I say that? Show us where it was said in this thread that lebron can never be as good as Kobe because of a dunk contest?

[Orangejello727]

Back this up if you're going to say it.

You're right. EVERYONE and ANYONE can enter the Dunk Contest. They dont select players, players just raise their hands up and BOOM they are dunking away!

You're absolutely right, there is no pre selection. :)!

[murrke03]

Where did they say that in this thread? Stop making false accusations. I never said that. Where did I say that? Show us where it was said in this thread that lebron can never be as good as Kobe because of a dunk contest?

Yawn. Why do you think this is even a topic.

People say oh Jordan did it, oh Kobe did it, carter blah blah blah.

[Orangejello727]

Yawn. Why do you think this is even a topic.

People say oh Jordan did it, oh Kobe did it, carter blah blah blah.

Thats what I thought. NO ONE said anything like that. You are making stuff up again.

Show me where someone said Kobe was greater than Lebron all because of a dunk conest.

[xavieronly1]

You're right. EVERYONE and ANYONE can enter the Dunk Contest. They dont select players, players just raise their hands up and BOOM they are dunking away!

You're absolutely right, there is no pre selection. :)!

lol.. you have no fact to back up your statement. How do you know Kobe did not get invitation after 1997?

[murrke03]

Thats what I thought. NO ONE said anything like that. You are making stuff up again.

Yes I am the one that makes stuff up. Lol

Ask the other members In this thread who makes stuff up. I wonder what the answer will be.

And what happened to being done with me? Talk about failing. Dd you miss me that much?

[asujbl]

You're right. EVERYONE and ANYONE can enter the Dunk Contest. They dont select players, players just raise their hands up and BOOM they are dunking away!

You're absolutely right, there is no pre selection. :)!

Lazy response.

Did I even say any of that? Of course not - because I don't give lazy replies.

You said Kobe wasn't invited back, you stated that as fact, prove that fact. That's all I asked.

It's rhetorical of course since I know you can't prove your "fact"

[nuccionino]

I don't know about you guys. That between the leg dunk would not get 50 in the dunk contest due to high expectation. And I'm not sure Lebron is a creative dunker who can come up with 4 amazing dunks for 1 night. He is like a kind of guy who would dunk it for 2 points, not going for fancy dunk (aka mcgee off the board or from the freethrow line during the game).

Did you not watch the contest this year? Everything is a 50 now. That deserves a 50.

[xavieronly1]

Did you not watch the contest this year? Everything is a 50 now. That deserves a 50.

I watched this year, but at least players are trying new dunks. Between the leg done is not new anymore. The best between the leg dunk was from JRich - off the board.

[Orangejello727]

Lazy response.

Did I even say any of that? Of course not - because I don't give lazy replies.

You said Kobe wasn't invited back, you stated that as fact, prove that fact. That's all I asked.

It's rhetorical of course since I know you can't prove your "fact"

I know this stint is to try and battle symantecs. It wont work.

I cant prove a negative. But to sit here and determine that Kobe didnt participate 2 yrs in a row is solely based on him declining it is just as much heresay. I get it. You hate kobe. But that has nothing do with with Lebron and not participating after being invited.

When I have time, Ill look up the process on how the list is determined for those invited to the dunk contest. But Im willint to bet the contest is not open to everyone that wants to partipate.

[murrke03]

I know this stint is to try and battle symantecs. It wont work.

I cant prove a negative. But to sit here and determine that Kobe didnt participate 2 yrs in a row is solely based on him declining it is just as much heresay. I get it. You hate kobe. But that has nothing do with with Lebron and not participating after being invited.

When I have time, Ill look up the process on how the list is determined for those invited to the dunk contest. But Im willint to bet the contest is not open to everyone that wants to partipate.

Why didn't Kobe want to be in dunk contest when he was a superstar?

What a cop out no?

[Orangejello727]

Why didn't Kobe want to be in dunk contest when he was a superstar?

What a cop out no?

I dont know. Was he invited? THe league chooses who they want in there. Not the players
Answer that question and youll have your answer.

Shaquille O'Neal's superstar slam dunk contest appears unlikely - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/allstar2010/news/story?id=4843811)

read that article when Shaq wanted them all to do it. What was Lebrons answer?

[xavieronly1]

I know this stint is to try and battle symantecs. It wont work.

I cant prove a negative. But to sit here and determine that Kobe didnt participate 2 yrs in a row is solely based on him declining it is just as much heresay. I get it. You hate kobe. But that has nothing do with with Lebron and not participating after being invited.

When I have time, Ill look up the process on how the list is determined for those invited to the dunk contest. But Im willint to bet the contest is not open to everyone that wants to partipate.

Please check the fact before you post. There is no 1998 dunk contest.

And funny how you would say some strong statement about kobe, and don't have any fact to back up. And now, you will find more informaton after you speak. Perhaps, you really should think before you post.

[Orangejello727]

Please check the fact before you post. There is no 1998 dunk contest.

And funny how you would say some strong statement about kobe, and don't have any fact to back up. And now, you will find more informaton after you speak. Perhaps, you really should think before you post.

You buddies are asking why he didnt participate again. Im saying KOBE DID do the dunk contest. Its your buddy asking why he didnt do it.

THis is pathetic.

Fact is Lebron wont do the dunk contest. MJ, VC and Kobe did it. THey particpated for the good of the game. Thats the jist of it.

[Orangejello727]

From the article


Put on the spot during a TV interview while watching last year's event, James said he would consider dunking this year in Dallas. It seemed as if James was trying to get some of the league's top players involved, but none of the game's premier dunkers wanted in and James recently decided not to participate after hedging for months.

He has been criticized for ducking out.

"LeBron said he would be in and he should be in it," TNT's Charles Barkley said earlier this week. "I think there are certain things that guys should do just for the good of the game. Michael Jordan and Dominique Wilkins didn't have to be in the slam dunk contest but they understood they were trying to push the game.

The fact is MJ, VC, Kobe, even Ray Allen did it once! They did it for the game!! THe top stars have done it for the game and participated. Barkley even comments on it. Why cant Lebron do it for the NBA? like every other top player that has given back?

[xavieronly1]

You buddies are asking why he didnt participate again. Im saying KOBE DID do the dunk contest. Its your buddy asking why he didnt do it.

THis is pathetic.

Fact is Lebron wont do the dunk contest. MJ, VC and Kobe did it. THey particpated for the good of the game. Thats the jist of it.

The "game" is 82 regular season games + playoff. Dunk contest is extra. I don't see what else Lebron can gain from winning dunk contest.

And besides, people would put Shawn Kemp as greater dunker than Kobe. And yet, Kemp lost 4 times in dunk contest, and Kobe won from the worst dunk contest of all time.

[tristan20]

If Lebron entered the contest and won with 50s, then Lebron haters would say the judges cheated for him. If he lost, they would say he isn't great.

How can the guy win? Stay out of it

END OF STORY

Its an exhibition game!

People want to see Lebron fail, Lebron says Suck these nuts

[murrke03]

I dont know. Was he invited? THe league chooses who they want in there. Not the players
Answer that question and youll have your answer.

Shaquille O'Neal's superstar slam dunk contest appears unlikely - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/allstar2010/news/story?id=4843811)

read that article when Shaq wanted them all to do it. What was Lebrons answer?

Players campaign to be in dunk contest.

You want lebron to put himself in it. Why didn't Kobe do that during his prime?

[Orangejello727]

Was this about winning the dunk contest? Or actually participating?

You guys keep switching up and sitting on the fence.

Have the top players of the eras participated in the Dunk contest to promote the NBA and the game of basketball during fan fest? Some have. and Some WONT!

Has nothing to do with winning it. It has to do with giving back to the fans during fan fest. Thats about it.

[xavieronly1]

Was this about winning the dunk contest? Or actually participating?

You guys keep switching up and sitting on the fence.

Have the top players of the eras participated in the Dunk contest to promote the NBA and the game of basketball during fan fest? Some have. and Some WONT!

Has nothing to do with winning it. It has to do with giving back to the fans during fan fest. Thats about it.

Lebron is in every year All star game since 2004. And that is the main part of the fan fest.

[murrke03]

Was this about winning the dunk contest? Or actually participating?

You guys keep switching up and sitting on the fence.

Have the top players of the eras participated in the Dunk contest to promote the NBA and the game of basketball during fan fest? Some have. and Some WONT!

Has nothing to do with winning it. It has to do with giving back to the fans during fan fest. Thats about it.

Kobe wasn't a top player at the time. That's the point and fact that you overlook.

Kobe hasn't done jack for it since he's been a superstar. Why should lebron?

[Orangejello727]

Kobe wasn't a top player at the time. That's the point and fact that you overlook.

Kobe hasn't done jack for it since he's been a superstar. Why should lebron?

Lebron lost his chance to do it. Frankly I dont want to see him do it. I stated earlier that the dunkers are always chosen early in their career. They usually choose the participants after 1 or 2 seasons into their career.

[asujbl]

I know this stint is to try and battle symantecs. It wont work.

I cant prove a negative. But to sit here and determine that Kobe didnt participate 2 yrs in a row is solely based on him declining it is just as much heresay. I get it. You hate kobe. But that has nothing do with with Lebron and not participating after being invited.

When I have time, Ill look up the process on how the list is determined for those invited to the dunk contest. But Im willint to bet the contest is not open to everyone that wants to partipate.

Pretty sub-standard reply - but whatever.

I love that I hate Kobe now as well - when this is probably my first Kobe related post (and not even really Kobe related) probably ever on this site.

[Orangejello727]

Pretty sub-standard reply - but whatever.

I love that I hate Kobe now as well - when this is probably my first Kobe related post (and not even really Kobe related) probably ever on this site.

So did Kobe enter a dunk contest in his career? Yes or no?
Has Lebron entered a dunk contest in his career? yes or no?

Pretty simple question. Instead of focussing on why Kobe didnt enter it twice, why not focus on the player who has yet to enter it? Isnt that point? To atleast do it once before wondering why they havent done it twice?

[murrke03]

Lebron lost his chance to do it. Frankly I dont want to see him do it. I stated earlier that the dunkers are always chosen early in their career. They usually choose the participants after 1 or 2 seasons into their career.

Then why are you complaining?

Lebron had maybe 1 year (his rookie year) in which he could have done it.

His situation is extremely different then Kobe. Kobe didn't do it when he was a superstar so why should Lebron? it's a foolish argument to try and say 'oh kobe did it'....

[murrke03]

So did Kobe enter a dunk contest in his career? Yes or no?
Has Lebron entered a dunk contest in his career? yes or no?

Pretty simple question. Instead of focussing on why Kobe didnt enter it twice, why not focus on the player who has yet to enter it? Isnt that point? To atleast do it once before wondering why they havent done it twice?

once again you have trouble understanding the context and outside information.

just like the jordan interview it isn't about ONE sentence. why do you have so much trouble understanding this...

[asujbl]

So did Kobe enter a dunk contest in his career? Yes or no?
Has Lebron entered a dunk contest in his career? yes or no?

Pretty simple question. Instead of focussing on why Kobe didnt enter it twice, why not focus on the player who has yet to enter it? Isnt that point? To atleast do it once before wondering why they havent done it twice?

Yes this thread is about LeBron - or it was at least.

Wondering why LeBron didn't do the dunk contest as a rookie to make a name for himself? Relevant.

Wondering why Multiple MVP LeBron isn't doing it it - when 18 year old Kobe did it - Not apples and apples.

[murrke03]

Yes this thread is about LeBron - or it was at least.

Wondering why LeBron didn't do the dunk contest as a rookie to make a name for himself? Relevant.

Wondering why Multiple MVP LeBron isn't doing it it - when 18 year old Kobe did it - Not apples and apples.

Bingo!

... POOF

[Orangejello727]

Yes this thread is about LeBron - or it was at least.

Wondering why LeBron didn't do the dunk contest as a rookie to make a name for himself? Relevant.

Wondering why Multiple MVP LeBron isn't doing it it - when 18 year old Kobe did it - Not apples and apples.

So why did Lebron decline to do the dunk contest in his early years? Lets get back on point

[Orangejello727]

Just to clarify - since you've said it twice - Kobe has never lost a dunk contest. He's only done it once.

Why didn't Kobe ever enter it when he was a good player in the league?

He was a scrub when he was in it.

Exactly. Kobe was 'a nobody' when he entered the dunk contest. He wasn't the best player in the league.

It's a stupid comparison.

People said lebron can't be as great as Kobe because he's never done a dunk contest.

Or lebron isn't as good because he's never done a dunk contest.

Or Kobe is cooler because he actually has done s dunk contest.

That has all been said. So sorry I'm not putting words in your mouth. That's what you do. Not me.

And I thought you were ignorining me and done with me? Lol

Bingo!

... POOF

Funny by my count, You brought Kobe into a Lebron thread more than anyone else. Pretty ironic.

[RedSoxFan28]

I don't get why LeBron doesn't do it. It would be an almost guarantee win. The judges would give him a 10 regardless of the dunk and he would easily win the fan vote against anyone.

[murrke03]

So why did Lebron decline to do the dunk contest in his early years? Lets get back on point

Why did he decline in year one? maybe he wasn't asked when he was a rookie?

lebron was a superstar in his second season (arguably his first). thats different then guys like kobe.

[murrke03]

Funny by my count, You brought Kobe into a Lebron thread more than anyone else. Pretty ironic.

because people use kobe as a reason lebron should do the dunk contest.


you've done it yourself.


kobe was brought up by plenty of people before me.

[murrke03]

Where did they say that in this thread? Stop making false accusations. I never said that. Where did I say that? Show us where it was said in this thread that lebron can never be as good as Kobe because of a dunk contest?


Another reason Kobe > Lebron. Kobe DID the dunk contest and didn't need to 'keep the people wanting for more' and look how kobe's career has panned out. if a player is unsure of himself, then that's one thing but to 'keep people wanting more' sounds like a bitchh play for someone who is supposed to be the best in the game

here's your proof oj.

now go away as i just proved you wrong.

please leave an apology on the way out... LOL

[Orangejello727]

here's your proof oj.

now go away as i just proved you wrong.

He said another reason. We have already proved and you conceded KObe>Lebron in career achievements. That includes a dunk conest. I dont know why you are battling this.

One has done it. The other has never attempted it. How can you justify someone who has never attempted something to be better than someone who has won it? Remarkable I say!! Simply remarkable!!

Edit: No feeding the troll

[murrke03]

He said another reason. We have already proved and you conceded KObe>Lebron in career achievements. That includes a dunk conest. I dont know why you are battling this.

One has done it. The other has never attempted it. How can you justify someone who has never attempted something to be better than someone who has won it? Remarkable I say!! Simply remarkable!!

and just for you.... "I never said that. Where did I say that? Prove I said that. Thats right you cant' Stop putting words in my mouth"

you are just clowning around. such a troll smh LOL you ask for where someone said it and said i made it up... yet oh wait there it is! now its story changing time. hahahahahhahahahhahahahahha

kobe was a scrub when he was in the dunk contest. why didn't he do it when he was a superstar?

lebron never was a scrub thus why do the dunk contest?

[Orangejello727]

you are just clowning around. such a troll smh

kobe was a scrub when he was in the dunk contest. why didn't he do it when he was a superstar?

lebron never was a scrub thus why do the dunk contest?

So only scrubs do Dunk contest?> LOL.

Read my aritcle above. Lebron was invited to enter the dunk contest. "HE DUCKED OUT"
I give up.

[murrke03]

So only scrubs do Dunk contest?> LOL.

Read my aritcle above. Lebron was invited to enter the dunk contest. "HE DUCKED OUT"
I give up.

The why hasn't Kobe done it since becoming a superstar? Why are you ignoring that?

Name the superstars in the last 10 years that have done the dunk contest.

[Orangejello727]

The why hasn't Kobe done it since becoming a superstar? Why are you ignoring that?

He won it. What more does have to prove? Fans wanted to see him dunk. Fans got to see him dunk in the contest. He entered. He won. Then it was put on hold for a year. By then there was a new class of guys the NBA wanted dunking. It filled.

Cant say the same for Lebron. He didnt do it. He was invited, he declined. He was called out by Shaq to do it, he ducked it again.

THere isnt much to say. Kobe has done it and won it. Lebron hasnt done, wont do it! Thats the jist of it.

Dont make it more than what it is.

You are arguing for the sake of arguing. If kobe did it twice, your question would be, "But why hasnt he done it 3 times then?". Come on now! Focus on atleast 1. Instead of asking why Kobe hasnt done it twice...why not ask why Lebron hasnt done it once?

[xavieronly1]

I don't get why LeBron doesn't do it. It would be an almost guarantee win. The judges would give him a 10 regardless of the dunk and he would easily win the fan vote against anyone.

What is the point of winning this? Does it boost his chance of winning the championship? I just think Lebron sees nothing he could gain from this dunk contest. It is like asking Lebron to have triple double every night. Of course, he can do it. So many times, he has like 30/8/8 and he doesn't bother to go for stat.

[murrke03]

He won it. What more does have to prove? Fans wanted to see him dunk. Fans got to see him dunk in the contest. He entered. He won. Then it was put on hold for a year. By then there was a new class of guys the NBA wanted dunking. It filled.

Cant say the same for Lebron. He didnt do it. He was invited, he declined. He was called out by Shaq to do it, he ducked it again.

THere isnt much to say. Kobe has done it and won it. Lebron hasnt done, wont do it! Thats the jist of it.

Dont make it more than what it is.

You are arguing for the sake of arguing. If kobe did it twice, your question would be, "But why hasnt he done it 3 times then?". Come on now! Focus on atleast 1. Instead of asking why Kobe hasnt done it twice...why not ask why Lebron hasnt done it once?

What? You are telling me fans didn't want to see Kobe in the dunk contest.

you are lost.

where is the list of superstars? you can't just ignore that part of the equation.

classic ignore important information.

[Orangejello727]

What? You are telling me fans didn't want to see Kobe in the dunk contest.

you are lost.

Im telling you Kobe entered the dunk contest. He participated. He won the dunk contest. Thats what Im telling you. He did it.

Instead of wondering why he didnt do it it again, why can you focus on the OPs question about Lebron even doing it once?

Why are you so focussed on someone else doing it twice when the question is about Lebron doing it atleast once?

This is what the thread is about. Lebron not doing it once. Not about Kobe doing it twice. Start with 1 before you get to 2 or 3.

But does these during pregame warmups?


Lebron James With A Crazy Dunk During Pre-Game! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMFkLJK_Fy0)

LeBron James shows off another Pre-Game dunk - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHmIZcV3OOY)


Great dunks by Lebron, no doubt about, but again, begs the question, why not to a dunk contest? Clearly it's got nothing to do with fear of injury

[murrke03]

Interesting story.

Kobe was supose to be in the 2000 Dunk Contest against Carter. He then later declined....

[murrke03]

Im telling you Kobe entered the dunk contest. He participated. He won the dunk contest. Thats what Im telling you. He did it.

Instead of wondering why he didnt do it it again, why can you focus on the OPs question about Lebron even doing it once?

Why are you so focussed on someone else doing it twice when the question is about Lebron doing it atleast once?

thats what you are ignoring. the fact that lebron hasn't done it is because HE IS A SUPERSTAR!!!!

can you not understand that?

[murrke03]

Kevin Durant has also turned down the dunk contest...

[Orangejello727]

thats what you are ignoring. the fact that lebron hasn't done it is because HE IS A SUPERSTAR!!!!

can you not understand that?

So the reason why Lebron did not do the dunk contest is because he is a supserstar?

[murrke03]

So the reason why Lebron did not do the dunk contest is because he is a supserstar?

how many superstars have done the dunk contest in the last ten years?

as a superstar did kobe do the dunk contest? the answer is no. and how classic of you to ignore that kobe dropped out of the dunk contest when he was a superstar.

yup proved wrong again.

[RedSoxFan28]

What is the point of winning this? Does it boost his chance of winning the championship? I just think Lebron sees nothing he could gain from this dunk contest. It is like asking Lebron to have triple double every night. Of course, he can do it. So many times, he has like 30/8/8 and he doesn't bother to go for stat.

What does he gain from competing in the All-Star game? Does that boost his chances? Should he just not bother playing in the all star games since it isn't beneficial to him?

I never said it was beneficial to LeBron, I said it would almost be an automatic win for him.

[Orangejello727]

how many superstars have done the dunk contest in the last ten years?

as a superstar did kobe do the dunk contest? the answer is no. and how classic of you to ignore that kobe dropped out of the dunk contest when he was a superstar.

yup proved wrong again.

HE should have done it in his rc year. I told you i dont care if he does it now. He should have done in his early years.

I stated earlier the reason he will not do it is the same reason I think he will not do a bunch of stuff. He doesnt take on things he knows he cant be #1 at. There is nothing wrong with that. But that truly is his mantra. If he cant be #1, he doesnt want to do it. Im not knocking him for it. Im telling you what I think is the reason.



LeBron James Won't Do the Dunk Contest for All the Wrong Reasons | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1051917-lebron-james-wont-do-the-dunk-contest-for-all-the-wrong-reasons)

exert from the article. Ill bold what Lebron says

Now we're getting into the "everything to lose section." And of course we start off with impossible expectations. It's LeBron James. He's been dealing with impossible expectations his whole life. He had them coming into the NBA. Not doing something because you don't think you can live up to other people's expectations is a weak excuse. You know, some players use that sort of thing as motivation.

Even if he does disappoint, we're going to look back and be happy that he tried. Go ahead and ask somebody if they'd rather see a disappointing LeBron in the dunk contest or no LeBron at all. It's a no-brainer, we just want to see him in it.

“If I decided to do it then I would have to win,” James said Thursday after the Miami Heat’s practice. “Otherwise it would be a waste of my Saturday night.”

He might not win. Oh, heavens to Betsy. We wouldn't want LeBron to waste a Saturday night. That's taco night!

Windhorst sites yet another reason why James would not enter the contest. "Here’s another reality: James probably wouldn’t win because he isn’t good at dunk contests."

Windhorst backs this fact that James isn't good at dunk contests by invoking his 2003 attempt, when he was still in high school. Well, if he wasn't good at them nine years ago, he's probably not very good at them now. Science.

And LeBron would win, even if it wasn't necessarily deserved (like Griffin last year). But even if he didn't, that's not the point. The dunk contest is about entertaining, and these guys are entertainers.


I truly believe that he will only take on things that determine him as the best. If there is a chance he may not be viewed as the best in that catagory... he will not do it.

I also believe that he thinks he is bigger than the game itself. He feels that he is gods gift to the world in basketball. That basketball needs him more than he needs basketball. Simply not the case for any person in this world. Even MJ. By not doing the dunk contest, he leaves a void of what if. Fans wanted it. He didnt give back to the fans when asked for. Thats all im saying.

[tristan20]

Skip Sayless

[Orangejello727]

if the only rebuttal you have is name calling, im out! Cant babysit lebron fans.

[xavieronly1]

What does he gain from competing in the All-Star game? Does that boost his chances? Should he just not bother playing in the all star games since it isn't beneficial to him?

I never said it was beneficial to LeBron, I said it would almost be an automatic win for him.

He got voted in for the all star game. He doesn't get to vote in by fan to join the dunk contest.

[xavieronly1]

if the only rebuttal you have is name calling, im out! Cant babysit lebron fans.

No one asks you to babysie lebron's fan. Stop being the catcher in the rye.

[murrke03]

You still ignore the point of my posts.

Lebron was in a different position as a rookie then when kobe did the dunk contest. This thread and the recent talks have been saying lebron should do the dunk contest now. My point is no other superstar including kobe hasn't so its a lame argument.

So now your argument is that lebron should have done the dunk contest 10 years ago.... LAMO please get out if thats you 'position'. cause it hasn't been this whole thread until your foolish comments were pointed out and proved wrong.

You went on and on about lebron declining the dunk contest yet now ignore the fact that kobe did the same thing. interesting....

[Orangejello727]

Ok that puts it to rest then..

Zero in the column of Dunk Contest for Lebron. That was easy!

[RedSoxFan28]

He got voted in for the all star game. He doesn't get to vote in by fan to join the dunk contest.

He got voted in so he has to do it? Players can also decline to participate in All-Star weekend.

Anyways I do hope some "stars" will step up and start to perform in the Dunk Conest. I am not saying Durant, Kobe, LeBron, Melo, etc. should all perform, it would just be nice to see a "star" in the dunk contest.

[xavieronly1]

Ok that puts it to rest then..

Zero in the column of Dunk Contest for Lebron. That was easy!

Thanks, Captain Obvious. Your insight is very thoughtful (at your standard).

[murrke03]

Ok that puts it to rest then..

Zero in the column of Dunk Contest for Lebron. That was easy!

It's easy because your arrogant attitude ignores the complete story.

You've done this in every thread in the last 2 weeks.

How many dunk contest did kobe do when he was a superstar? Zero
Did Kobe ever turn down a dunk contest? Yes.

[murrke03]

Still ignoring your golden lover turning down a dunk contest.

How dare he? Or are you giving him the OJ double standard?

[Orangejello727]

It's easy because your arrogant attitude ignores the complete story.

You've done this in every thread in the last 2 weeks.

How many dunk contest did kobe do when he was a superstar? Zero
Did Kobe ever turn down a dunk contest? Yes.

Why does it matter when they did it? So as long as they did it. Isnt this what you were saying about championships as well? Doesnt matter when Lebron got, so as long as he got one?

What is basketball? A race? See who finishes first? I dont get it. Im not arrogant. Im a reality. I tend to believe in facts. The fact is Lebron no dunk contest. Check! Kobe = dunk contest check! Whether it was 2001 or 2010 or 1997. He did it. Thats the point. Not the time or the dunk itself. Its the contribution to doing it atleast once to say he has done it. Thats it!

Dont argue anything else. Frankly if he hasnt done it, he shouldnt even be mentioned when it comes to dunking. Its that simple for me. Why are you making it an issue? Because its Lebron and he deserves to be the best at dunking eventhough he has never entered or won a dunking contest! Sure.. Give him a red ribbon! Makes no difference to me! I could care less.

Its the fans that want to see him. Why not give the fans what they want to see atleast once? I mean they pretty much pay the salaries of these guys right?

I dont care if someone has turned down the dunk competition after doing it once. Turning it down right from the get go is much different. Big difference between doing it atleast once and then declining to Never doing it and turning it down.

"I could have made 10 million dollars but I declined, therefore I know I could have" Great logic there!

[detroitlions]

Go look at the first reponse in this post, why does everyone care? I am one of lebrons biggest fans and have been with him since his first game. I could care less if he has or hasn't done a dunk contest. Theres no need to ridicule him because hes never participated in one.

[xavieronly1]

Go look at the first reponse in this post, why does everyone care? I am one of lebrons biggest fans and have been with him since his first game. I could care less if he has or hasn't done a dunk contest. Theres no need to ridicule him because hes never participated in one.

Only Kobe's fan cares.

[murrke03]

Why does it matter when they did it? So as long as they did it. Isnt this what you were saying about championships as well? Doesnt matter when Lebron got, so as long as he got one?

What is basketball? A race? See who finishes first? I dont get it. Im not arrogant. Im a reality. I tend to believe in facts. The fact is Lebron no dunk contest. Check! Kobe = dunk contest check! Whether it was 2001 or 2010 or 1997. He did it. Thats the point. Not the time or the dunk itself. Its the contribution to doing it atleast once to say he has done it. Thats it!

Dont argue anything else. Frankly if he hasnt done it, he shouldnt even be mentioned when it comes to dunking. Its that simple for me. Why are you making it an issue? Because its Lebron and he deserves to be the best at dunking eventhough he has never entered or won a dunking contest! Sure.. Give him a red ribbon! Makes no difference to me! I could care less.

Its the fans that want to see him. Why not give the fans what they want to see atleast once? I mean they pretty much pay the salaries of these guys right?

I dont care if someone has turned down the dunk competition after doing it once. Turning it down right from the get go is much different. Big difference between doing it atleast once and then declining to Never doing it and turning it down.

"I could have made 10 million dollars but I declined, therefore I know I could have" Great logic there!

Of course it matters.

Winning a championship as the superstar of the team is different then being a scrub who plays one minute. do you not agree with that?

Why couldnt Kobe give the fans an even better dunk contest in 2000. Maybe we should hold that against him and his legacy.

[Orangejello727]

Of course it matters.

Winning a championship as the superstar of the team is different then being a scrub who plays one minute. do you not agree with that?

Why couldnt Kobe give the fans an even better dunk contest in 2000. Maybe we should hold that against him and his legacy.

Yes hold it against him and make yourself happy. But that wont negate that KObe has a done it and won it! Cant take it away from him no matter how hard you wish!

[murrke03]

Yes hold it against him and make yourself happy. But that wont negate that KObe has a done it and won it! Cant take it away from him no matter how hard you wish!

But its not that simple. Context matters as well as other factors. I know you have trouble with this.

and about the championship question. chalking that up to another loss? lol

[Orangejello727]

But its not that simple. Context matters as well as other factors. I know you have trouble with this.

and about the championship question. chalking that up to another loss? lol

I wouldnt consider 5 championships during a career or even 6 to be a bad thing. Only you would. When kobe won his first 3, he was far from a "Scrub" on the Lakers. He was the 2nd option and essential part of the championship team. I know you're going to say "I never said he wasnt" to which Im going to ask.."then why did you state this while talking about kobe?"
Winning a championship as the superstar of the team is different then being a scrub who plays one minute. do you not agree with that?

Kobe has been a superstar on the team for all 5 of his championship. He was no scrub for any of those rings. I dont know where you are going with that.

[murrke03]

I wouldnt consider 5 championships during a career or even 6 to be a bad thing. Only you would. When kobe won his first 3, he was far from a "Scrub" on the Lakers. He was the 2nd option and essential part of the championship team. I know you're going to say "I never said he wasnt" to which Im going to ask.."then why did you state this while talking about kobe?"


Kobe has been a superstar on the team for all 5 of his championship. He was no scrub for any of those rings. I dont know where you are going with that.

what are you talking about?

i said you have to consider the point of their career and status as a player when thinking about them entering a dunk contest.

i then asked you about championships because in a previous post you said, "Why does it matter when they did it? So as long as they did it. Isnt this what you were saying about championships as well? Doesnt matter when Lebron got, so as long as he got one?"

I'm saying it does matter for championships whether you are the star or the scrub.

No where did I say anything about kobes championships.... my point is that context matters. just like talking about a player winning championships the context matters. the same is true for participating in a dunk contest.

[AceGambit3]

Superstars that have done the dunk contest in past 10 years:

Dwight Howard....three times! There's your answer.

Also Lebron said during the 2009 Dunk Contest he would be in it the next year then backed out last minute. Yes, there is the speculation he did so because he couldn't get other superstars to join him so he decided not to either but you really think other superstars weren't waiting for him to commit 100%. He was one foot in one foot out the whole time so why should any other star commit when the one recruiting wouldn't commit fully.

And yes you are damn right he has nothing to gain from competing, to say it's a waste of his time on a Saturday night is pathetic though and speaks volume about what he thinks of himself. But we all knew that from "The Decision". He also realized the Slam Dunk contest is not as prestigious as it once was. Of course that is also his and his fellow superstars faults. The time has passed for Kobe Vince and Lebron to do an All-Star dunk contest ala the late 80's/early 90's because while Kobe and Vince are still good players(Kobe obviously being the better) the hops and such that allowed them to dazzle us in the 2000's aren't there all the time and the dunk contest would only show both their ages. They'd probably still impress but it'd be like Jordan when he was a Wizard. Some "oohs and ahhs" but the spark that enthralled us originally would be missing. Now if some of the games premiere young stars would step up then yes Lebron should do it, no questions asked but unless Blake Griffin, Dwight Howard (back permitting) and one other star do not step up, then yes Lebron should just stay out of the contest.

[Orangejello727]

what are you talking about?

i said you have to consider the point of their career and status as a player when thinking about them entering a dunk contest.

i then asked you about championships because in a previous post you said, "Why does it matter when they did it? So as long as they did it. Isnt this what you were saying about championships as well? Doesnt matter when Lebron got, so as long as he got one?"

I'm saying it does matter for championships whether you are the star or the scrub.

No where did I say anything about kobes championships.... my point is that context matters. just like talking about a player winning championships the context matters. the same is true for participating in a dunk contest.

Well we are talking about Kobe and Lebron. So how does "Scrub" make its way into the debate? Im confused. You used the word, not me.

You explain it.

[alanlam]

I don't particularly care about this nonsense but reading you LBJ fanboys go crazy is hilarious. You guys are all aware that he has actually said on TV, that he will be participating in the dunk contest (I believe it was the 2010 contest). Stop defending him like he's your little brother. He's not too good for it or whatever you guys are trying to prove He doesn't wanna do it, you don't need to make up excuses for him.

Those dunks he did in the videos on this post are cool, but would they really win a dunk contest? They've both been done, particularly the in between the legs variation. I don't think he would win, but before you start shedding your tears of LBJ misery and throwing your crumpled up LBJ love notes at your laptop, I don't think he would win because he's a better in-game dunker. He's just so powerful and fast, he's probably the 2nd best in-game dunker of all-time (Nique is 1st). D12 won it with a lot of props and pageantry so I suppose LBJ could pull it off.

For my money, MJ, Vince, Dr.J and Kobe (Tears of joy for the irrational Kobe fanboys!) were the best that have ever been, or could have been, in the dunk contest. They had the hops AND they were so unbelievably graceful, something that's hard to pull off when you're 6'8 270.

[murrke03]

Superstars that have done the dunk contest in past 10 years:

Dwight Howard....three times! There's your answer.

Also Lebron said during the 2009 Dunk Contest he would be in it the next year then backed out last minute. Yes, there is the speculation he did so because he couldn't get other superstars to join him so he decided not to either but you really think other superstars weren't waiting for him to commit 100%. He was one foot in one foot out the whole time so why should any other star commit when the one recruiting wouldn't commit fully.

And yes you are damn right he has nothing to gain from competing, to say it's a waste of his time on a Saturday night is pathetic though and speaks volume about what he thinks of himself. But we all knew that from "The Decision". He also realized the Slam Dunk contest is not as prestigious as it once was. Of course that is also his and his fellow superstars faults. The time has past for Kobe Vince and Lebron to do an All-Star dunk contest ala the late 80's/early 90's because while Kobe and Vince are still good players(Kobe obviously being the better) the hops and such that allowed them to dazzle us in the 2000's aren't there all the time and the dunk contest would only show both their ages. They'd probably still impress but it'd be like Jordan when he was a Wizard. Some "oohs and ahhs" but the spark that enthralled us originally would be missing. Now if some of the games premiere young stars would step up then yes Lebron should do it, no questions asked but unless Blake Griffin, Dwight Howard (back permitting) and one other star do not step up, then yes Lebron should just stay out of the contest.

one player?????

such a huge amount... LOL

[murrke03]

Well we are talking about Kobe and Lebron. So how does "Scrub" make its way into the debate? Im confused. You used the word, not me.

You explain it.

I said that when comparing when and if a player does a dunk contest it has a lot to do with context.

Kobe was FAR from a superstar when he did it. One player in the last 10 years has done it when considered a 'superstar'. Kobe denied it when he was a superstar. So Lebron being a superstar why should he be any different? Superstars don't do the dunk contest anymore, thats the precedent.

Its similar to the thing you brought up with championships. Winning a championship as a superstar is not the same as winning a championship when you are a scrub.

Doing a dunk contest when you are not a star and doing one when you are a superstar (the best in the league) is completely different.

[Cades]

I love how you have to make things more complicated than it actually is to suit your argument.

Quite amusing

[murrke03]

I love how you have to make things more complicated than it actually is to suit your argument.

Quite amusing

more complicated? the problem is trying to be too simple.

so just ignore important information. just like the jordan interview. pick out one sentence and ignore everything else.

LOL thats why there are so many uninformed basketball fans on this site. they think everything in the game is so SIMPLE. Forget the actual complexity of the game it can all be figured out by one piece of information. Forget the 99 other pieces.

[Orangejello727]

I love how you have to make things more complicated than it actually is to suit your argument.

Quite amusing

Keeps us busy. Its only simple if Lebron comes out ahead. Its not so simple if Lebron loses the battle because its complicated. Yes on paper he loses, but when you add in 5 ingredients from Pizza Hut at no extra charge, its no longer losing, but rather using excuses and blaming other people as to why he couldnt do it.

If it was simple. it would be Lebron = NO dunk contest champion. But the complex answer is, he didnt do it because he is a superstar!! lol And because he didnt do it, it shouldnt count towards anything!! But if he did it, we should count it!

[sucram]

You guys are comparing the wrong two players yet again http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/226/764/kobe-jordan_display_image.jpg?1273899222 :)!

[murrke03]

Keeps us busy. Its only simple if Lebron comes out ahead. Its not so simple if Lebron loses the battle because its complicated. Yes on paper he loses, but when you add in 5 ingredients from Pizza Hut at no extra charge, its no longer losing, but rather using excuses and blaming other people as to why he couldnt do it.

If it was simple. it would be Lebron = NO dunk contest champion. But the complex answer is, he didnt do it because he is a superstar!! lol And because he didnt do it, it shouldnt count towards anything!! But if he did it, we should count it!

if you are going to spew stuff. back it up. i'm sorry you can't comphrehend more then one piece of information at once.

where did i make it simple so lebron can win something?

[Kingofkings1281]

This made it to six pages? Hahaha

And to whoever said you had to be invited to the dunk contest, I'm sure the league office would just hang up on Westbrook, Rose, Blake, etc if they were to call and ask to be in it.

"No, I'm sorry Mr. Griffin. We already invited Kenneth Faried, there's no way you can participate this year."

Face it, the dunk contest hasn't been relevant since the last time Jason Richardson won it. There have been a few players that approached the level of creativity J-Rich and Carter showed (Iggy, Derozan), but for the most part, it's been a joke. When you have to resort to capes, ladders, stuffed animals, and copying previous winners dunks (unsuccessfully), then it's time to give it up.

[nino_013]

This made it to six pages? Hahaha

And to whoever said you had to be invited to the dunk contest, I'm sure the league office would just hang up on Westbrook, Rose, Blake, etc if they were to call and ask to be in it.

"No, I'm sorry Mr. Griffin. We already invited Kenneth Faried, there's no way you can participate this year."

Face it, the dunk contest hasn't been relevant since the last time Jason Richardson won it. There have been a few players that approached the level of creativity J-Rich and Carter showed (Iggy, Derozan), but for the most part, it's been a joke. When you have to resort to capes, ladders, stuffed animals, and copying previous winners dunks (unsuccessfully), then it's time to give it up.

Exactly! I mean why should he even bother when guys hed be going up against, need 5-6 attempts at one dunk.

[bdoody42]

This thread was suppose to be about LeBron. Lebron said that he would compete in a dunk contest and backed out. Many fans a dissapointed that he won't partake in a dunk contest. Should it hurt his legacy, I don't see why it should. It's just a dunk contest.

[forgiven1]

Lebron is a coward and his word is no good!....He is too scared to enter the dunk contest because he's afraid he's gonna choke like he always does in the fourth quarter!....Period!......End thread!

[murrke03]

Lebron is a coward and his word is no good!....He is too scared to enter the dunk contest because he's afraid he's gonna choke like he always does in the fourth quarter!....Period!......End thread!

Just like Kobe was afraid to take on carter in the 2000 dunk contest.

What a coward. He had to drop out.

[forgiven1]

Just like Kobe was afraid to take on carter in the 2000 dunk contest.

What a coward. He had to drop out.

Kobe already won a dunk contest!...Duh!...Now we are waiting on Bron...After all , didnt he say he would enter one...Oh wait, thats right....His word is no good!.....LOL!....Bron is still playing catchup!....:D:D:D

[scotts]

I love it. Treat the fans who pay top dollar night in and night out to watch a NBA game to a little entertainment. I just posted on another thread, things like this are why the Heat are gonna repeat as champions this year. They are having fun and relaxed and are playing out of this world!