Worst Ebay Experience

[bjsymes]

I had the worst thing happen to me regarding someone on eBay. I got a coupon code where I could list 1 item a day for 7 days with 0 seller fees going to eBay.... so I decided to sell a few things. I sold a 1972 Topps Baseball Complete Set that me and a buddy put together. It was in great shape. I plucked out cards and replaced with better ones. Some were off center, but they all had sharp corners and surfaces were great. The set sold for $911.01 which I was happy with. I packaged it extremely well and shipped to the winner via Priority mail. It arrived at the buyer's place 2 days later and he immediately filed a complaint on eBay against me, saying he wants a full refund, and cards were not as described. He said all the good cards were creased. (there wasn't a single card in the set that had a crease.)

Since I'm the seller, and I have no recourse, I had to offer him a refund after he shipped the set back to me. As I go through it, the good cards seemed to be the ones I shipped him. However, this dirtbag stole a ton of common and high number cards and replaced them with lower grade cards, creased, water damaged. And what can I do? NOTHING! because where's the proof? It's my word against his. So in all he gets all of his money back and he gets to upgrade his 72 set by stealing my cards.

BEERMANN13 is his ebay name.

Sick to my stomach over this.

[maryvillereb]

now that is an ebay horror story! DAMN!

[bd3d86]

Wow....sorry to hear that. :(

He will be blocked....

[daveyou]

wow damn....sorry to hear that. blocked immediately

looking at his auctions, as recently yesterday, he has 1,612 "1972 topps" completed auctions...

1972 topps from beermann13 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=1972&_ipg=50&_sop=3&_osacat=0&_from=R40&LH_Complete=1&_ssn=beermann13&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313&_nkw=1972+topps&_sacat=0)

dave

[theacox]

Yikes that is terrible. I feel bad for you.

[sthoemke]

He has recently bought a few other complete sets from the 70's. I wonder if he he trying the same thing with other sellers.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=beermann13&completed=1&all=1&rows=200&sort=3&_rdc=1

[ryanvas]

Call eBay and explain the situation, you didn't get back same cards, they were switched out. Don't let a POS get away with this. If its a trend and others call eBay you might have some recourse or at the least help prevent more. I'm sorry this happened to you.

[Bhenry4]

Drive to his house and beat the $&@! outta him is what the recourse is.

[bjsymes]

I google earth'd his address, it's a Trailer Park.. even better right? But I do like your idea the best.

[nordy22]

you could always buy his lots and return the favor.........

[xDomePatrolx]

Looks like he is selling lots of 72s, stars & highs. Buy them pull your cards then file a claim against him.

EDIT: Nordy beat me to it , but this might be your best recourse.

[Bosox34]

you could always buy his lots and return the favor.........


Lol this made my day

[cruiserdaddy7]

Buy them and return some 1988 Donruss to him

[MW Connection]

I had the worst thing happen to me regarding someone on eBay. I got a coupon code where I could list 1 item a day for 7 days with 0 seller fees going to eBay.... so I decided to sell a few things. I sold a 1972 Topps Baseball Complete Set that me and a buddy put together. It was in great shape. I plucked out cards and replaced with better ones. Some were off center, but they all had sharp corners and surfaces were great. The set sold for $911.01 which I was happy with. I packaged it extremely well and shipped to the winner via Priority mail. It arrived at the buyer's place 2 days later and he immediately filed a complaint on eBay against me, saying he wants a full refund, and cards were not as described. He said all the good cards were creased. (there wasn't a single card in the set that had a crease.)

Since I'm the seller, and I have no recourse, I had to offer him a refund after he shipped the set back to me. As I go through it, the good cards seemed to be the ones I shipped him. However, this dirtbag stole a ton of common and high number cards and replaced them with lower grade cards, creased, water damaged. And what can I do? NOTHING! because where's the proof? It's my word against his. So in all he gets all of his money back and he gets to upgrade his 72 set by stealing my cards.

BEERMANN13 is his ebay name.

Sick to my stomach over this.

so sorry to hear this.

report him. block him. move on.

[briscogun]

Call eBay and explain the situation, you didn't get back same cards, they were switched out. Don't let a POS get away with this. If its a trend and others call eBay you might have some recourse or at the least help prevent more. I'm sorry this happened to you.

This is wise. Don't let him get away with it. This is theft. You could even let him know that filing charges against him is an option. Anything that is $500+ is a felony. And if he used the US mail to commit fraud, it's a federal offense. I'd call eBay and let them know what happened, and then seriously consider sending him an email using all kinds of big legal-type words, scare the bejeezus out of him if nothing else.

Hope this gets resolved for you, man. Good luck.

[kyle1707]

Very common scam....

Disgusting but true

[Bob Loblaw]

What state is the buyer in?

[GOWIFB]

Man this sucks to hear. I am sure with a lot that big you probably didnt have anywhere close to every card scanned that you could show the card that you had was replaced. As others have said I would fight this tooth and nail. Maybe report it to the local police and to USPS as it could be mail fraud. Maybe also contact other sellers that he recently bought from and see if he did the same thing to them or not. Hope you can catch this sleeze

[Coolstavi]

you could always buy his lots and return the favor.........

THIS. I know it could be hard to do but think about what this person did to you.

[theacox]

Sure, the OP could do all these things you guys are talking about, but the burden of proof is on him. I doubt he could entertain thoughts of winning anything without extreme documentation of the minutia that no one ever does in a card transaction. Even if he could, it would likely cost him far more than he would ever recover in court.

[bjsymes]

He's in Iowa. I tried winning one of his auctions last night and was going to hold it to replace what he stole from me... but got Sniped last second.

[kgsportscards]

Sorry to hear, that sucks. I'm getting an invalid user name for him now, can't block. Did he change his name?

[holyWahoos]

Sorry to hear, that sucks. I'm getting an invalid user name for him now, can't block. Did he change his name?

make sure it's all lowercase

[cross4444]

Christy Beermann's (beermann13) Library | Photobucket (http://s769.photobucket.com/user/beermann13/library/?sort=3&page=1)

Here's ol Christy Beermann's photobucket.

Christy Beermann on Pinterest (http://www.pinterest.com/beermann13/pins/)

Here's ol Christy Beermann's pinterest. I'm guessing Christy is the wife, and you're probably dealing with the man in the picture, Daniel. I'm not having much luck finding anything on Dan.

Honestly man, we're talking close to a $1000 stolen from you. In Iowa, this is classified as an Aggravated Misdemeanor Theft which carries up to two years prison time. If he had stolen over $1000, it'd be a felony. Contact Ebay by phone and save all correspondence and evidence. Let them know that if the situation can't be resolved, you'll be pressing charges. There's no reason you can't get your money back if you're willing to work for it.

[holyWahoos]

Christy Beermann's (beermann13) Library | Photobucket (http://s769.photobucket.com/user/beermann13/library/?sort=3&page=1)

Here's ol Christy Beermann's photobucket.

Christy Beermann on Pinterest (http://www.pinterest.com/beermann13/pins/)

Here's ol Christy Beermann's pinterest. I'm guessing Christy is the wife, and you're probably dealing with the man in the picture, Daniel. I'm not having much luck finding anything on Dan.

Honestly man, we're talking close to a $1000 stolen from you. In Iowa, this is classified as an Aggravated Misdemeanor Theft which carries up to two years prison time. If he had stolen over $1000, it'd be a felony. Contact Ebay by phone and save all correspondence and evidence. Let them know that if the situation can't be resolved, you'll be pressing charges. There's no reason you can't get your money back if you're willing to work for it.

And the Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/christy.beermann

[cross4444]

And the Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/christy.beermann

I'm pretty sure that's the wife, I guess there's no need to pull her into this if you can communicate directly with the husband.

[Bob Loblaw]

Christy Beermann's (beermann13) Library | Photobucket (http://s769.photobucket.com/user/beermann13/library/?sort=3&page=1)

Here's ol Christy Beermann's photobucket.

Christy Beermann on Pinterest (http://www.pinterest.com/beermann13/pins/)

Here's ol Christy Beermann's pinterest. I'm guessing Christy is the wife, and you're probably dealing with the man in the picture, Daniel. I'm not having much luck finding anything on Dan.

Honestly man, we're talking close to a $1000 stolen from you. In Iowa, this is classified as an Aggravated Misdemeanor Theft which carries up to two years prison time. If he had stolen over $1000, it'd be a felony. Contact Ebay by phone and save all correspondence and evidence. Let them know that if the situation can't be resolved, you'll be pressing charges. There's no reason you can't get your money back if you're willing to work for it.

Christy Beermann
Collections Rep at Toyota Financial Services
Shellsburg, IowaFinancial Services
Previous
McLeodUSA, Engineered Seal Products
Education
Iowa Central College

[cross4444]

Christy Beermann
Collections Rep at Toyota Financial Services
Shellsburg, IowaFinancial Services
Previous
McLeodUSA, Engineered Seal Products
Education
Iowa Central College

Yeah, there's plenty out there on her LinkedIn, but the husband is harder to find.

[Bob Loblaw]

But the wife can be contacted....

You think she wants to be contacted for the bad deeds of her husband? Just think of the dinner table...

[zep]

Yup, a couple facebook messages to the wife might work wonders. Maybe even cc it to her employer if she doesn't respond

[JzWand]

Wow thats such a scumbag move!

[callou2131]

Just sent the possible wife a message with a link. Dont want to accuse the wrong womans husband.

[tajikey]

Subscribing to this one, as I think this will be a very fun ride. Sucks to hear, OP, but I do appreciate the suggestions others have made as to getting vindication for the actions of this scumbag.

[auctionjmm]

eBay does not stipulate that you need to offer a refund UNLESS the product is returned to you in it's original condition. What should have happened is you holding both his cards and money, escalating the case to eBay customer support, and allowing them to be the "judge". Even if eBay sided with him, at least you tried. It sounds to me like you just gave in with a refund and lost any recourse that you did have. Lesson learned. In the future, always use eBay to resolve major disputes like this. You may have even won the case.

[89transam]

subscribing to follow how this progresses.

the guy is a total lowlife. I am sure his wife has no idea what he is doing.

does anyone know if there are legal repercussions for mailing this guy a box full of 2 weeks worth of cat litter?

[callou2131]

magazine subscriptions. Hundreds of them. Let him sort his credit out. Oh he is married? How about subscriptions to playgirl and some other gay magazines? I just googled. Out, and Instinct magazines. Maybe a swingers mag etc.

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

There is no way in hell that I would take this!! If you completed a transaction with him, can't you get his phone number from ebay. I would definitely post stuff on his wife's facebook wall about what a fat lowlife this guy is to start. There is also no doubt that at some point in time, I would win a big ticket item of his and screw him over.

[ChicagoCubsWS]

About an hour away from me.

If I see him at the next show I go to I will let you know.

[xDomePatrolx]

magazine subscriptions. Hundreds of them. Let him sort his credit out. Oh he is married? How about subscriptions to playgirl and some other gay magazines? I just googled. Out, and Instinct magazines. Maybe a swingers mag etc.

Had a friend do this to me back in college. Flooded my main email like crazy with gay website ads and magazine offers. So I set up fake Craiglist ads with his name and number selling weird things or asking for crazy stuff. Oh the good ol days! haha

[callou2131]

want someone to get like 100 calls an hour? Craigslist ad for a free trampoline. I mean, who deosnt want a free trampoline???? Did it to a guy at work and used our work number. The phone blew up for like two hours till I took it off.

[xDomePatrolx]

want someone to get like 100 calls an hour? Craigslist ad for a free trampoline. I mean, who deosnt want a free trampoline???? Did it to a guy at work and used our work number. The phone blew up for like two hours till I took it off.

Too funny!! I went with a little more of the dark creepy side if CL. I can only imagine the pervs that were calling him. haha

[callou2131]

You do that with the cell phone number. Go into the men seeking men, post some googled picture, and ask them to send naked pics. There cell phones get blown up by a bunch of pervs sending dick pics to their cell phones. Let them explain that to their wives.

[itradeerrors]

I had the worst thing happen to me regarding someone on eBay. I got a coupon code where I could list 1 item a day for 7 days with 0 seller fees going to eBay.... so I decided to sell a few things. I sold a 1972 Topps Baseball Complete Set that me and a buddy put together. It was in great shape. I plucked out cards and replaced with better ones. Some were off center, but they all had sharp corners and surfaces were great. The set sold for $911.01 which I was happy with. I packaged it extremely well and shipped to the winner via Priority mail. It arrived at the buyer's place 2 days later and he immediately filed a complaint on eBay against me, saying he wants a full refund, and cards were not as described. He said all the good cards were creased. (there wasn't a single card in the set that had a crease.)

Since I'm the seller, and I have no recourse, I had to offer him a refund after he shipped the set back to me. As I go through it, the good cards seemed to be the ones I shipped him. However, this dirtbag stole a ton of common and high number cards and replaced them with lower grade cards, creased, water damaged. And what can I do? NOTHING! because where's the proof? It's my word against his. So in all he gets all of his money back and he gets to upgrade his 72 set by stealing my cards.

BEERMANN13 is his ebay name.

Sick to my stomach over this.

If you want I can copy and paste your post and put it up on the Net54 forum where people are more into the vintage cards. In order to do that I need you to PM me your real name. Any post over there needs your full real name when calling out scammers to avoid BS callouts.

[callou2131]

good idea itradeerrors even better than my dickpic idea

[BigDan502]

Scroll down her facebook wall and his facebook is linked

[WalrusCircus]

Scroll down her facebook wall and his facebook is linked

Just about to say that
https://www.facebook.com/dan.beermann.39

[calculusdork]

I still just can't believe there are people in the world that would do something like this.

[ChicagoCubsWS]

Can anyone post a pic of him or PM me one? At work so I can't go on FB

[cross4444]

So what is OP going to do about this?

[itradeerrors]

So what is OP going to do about this?

eBay is a scammers paradise and there is really nothing that can be done.

I really liked some of the suggestions though. D*ck pics, CL, sign up on gay men for men sites are all great ideas. No real harm but at least the guy is harassed for a while.:)!

[sportcardtheory]

I love that there are so many ways we can mess with this guy. He deserves whatever happens.

[ccoffee99]

Or someone could take his dog and dye its fur/hair pink and return it

[phabphour20]

On the other side of the coin... I recently bought a 1984 Topps USFL set on eBay. When I got it the 4 big cards were missing. Seller claimed they were in the box. They weren't. I got my money back because of the eBay policy. So it does happen the other way too.

That being said, OP, this sucks hard.

[ccoffee99]

Is it just me but I see this as the ultimate trolling opportunity!

[RiceLynnEvans75]

I recently sold off my '55 Topps set and was contemplating ebay or an auction house. The story of what happened to the OP is exactly the type of reason why I went with the auction house. So many horror stories on ebay it's unbelievable what people get away with.

[jmyzell29]

I'm loving this thread! OP you have to push back at this guy. Looks like you've got lots of support from fellow members. That's a cool thing to see but sorry about your cards. Sucks. Somebody should just scam him. That would definitely be a possible solution.

[bjsymes]

When I agreed to a refund on ebay, it wouldn't let me do anything other than offer him a full refund. You guys are amazing at tracking this dude down and I can't even imagine what kind of crap will come his way because of it. But it's nothing he doesn't deserve.

[xDomePatrolx]

Please keep us tuned in if you hear anything from this guy and or his wife. Would like to know if she knows what he did. Thanks and good luck man.

[cowboyfaninlr]

That sucks man. eBay could give a #@#@#@#@ less as the buyer is ALWAYS right in there world. Just like I told a supervisor at eBay they are going to lose in the long run when they run off all the good sellers and are left with conartists and thieves....

[cowboyfaninlr]

and this DB is a top rated seller......only in eBay land

[sthoemke]

Here's Christy Beermann's twitter account:

https://twitter.com/beermann13

[BostonNut]

How did this turn out?

[Kane1]

Is it my imagination or the guy have a lot of sales from 1972 baseball cards in the past few days?

[sthoemke]

Seller currently has almost 700 1970's baseball cards listed:

beermann13 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/sch/beermann13/m.html?item=371016263283&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item56624ae673&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562)

[jmyzell29]

Bumping this thread to keep it fresh. I have to find out how this ends. If there is an ending.

[QuiteSomething]

This is wise. Don't let him get away with it. This is theft. You could even let him know that filing charges against him is an option. Anything that is $500+ is a felony. And if he used the US mail to commit fraud, it's a federal offense. I'd call eBay and let them know what happened, and then seriously consider sending him an email using all kinds of big legal-type words, scare the bejeezus out of him if nothing else.

Hope this gets resolved for you, man. Good luck.

He lives in a Trailer Park! He won't care if law enforcement pays him a visit. It is a common occurrence in his neck of the woods. The hookers will warn him before they show up anyway, and he will hear all the crack heads and meth heads tweaking and freaking and running all over 'cause the cops are coming. Unless he is passed out hammered drunk?:D