Worst Ebay Experience

bjsymes · 03-10-2014, 07:26 PM

I had the worst thing happen to me regarding someone on eBay. I got a coupon code where I could list 1 item a day for 7 days with 0 seller fees going to eBay.... so I decided to sell a few things. I sold a 1972 Topps Baseball Complete Set that me and a buddy put together. It was in great shape. I plucked out cards and replaced with better ones. Some were off center, but they all had sharp corners and surfaces were great. The set sold for $911.01 which I was happy with. I packaged it extremely well and shipped to the winner via Priority mail. It arrived at the buyer's place 2 days later and he immediately filed a complaint on eBay against me, saying he wants a full refund, and cards were not as described. He said all the good cards were creased. (there wasn't a single card in the set that had a crease.)

Since I'm the seller, and I have no recourse, I had to offer him a refund after he shipped the set back to me. As I go through it, the good cards seemed to be the ones I shipped him. However, this dirtbag stole a ton of common and high number cards and replaced them with lower grade cards, creased, water damaged. And what can I do? NOTHING! because where's the proof? It's my word against his. So in all he gets all of his money back and he gets to upgrade his 72 set by stealing my cards.

BEERMANN13 is his ebay name.

Sick to my stomach over this.

maryvillereb · 03-10-2014, 07:28 PM

now that is an ebay horror story! DAMN!

bd3d86 · 03-10-2014, 07:30 PM

Wow....sorry to hear that.

He will be blocked....

daveyou · 03-10-2014, 07:30 PM

wow damn....sorry to hear that. blocked immediately

looking at his auctions, as recently yesterday, he has 1,612 "1972 topps" completed auctions...

1972 topps from beermann13 | eBay

dave

theacox · 03-10-2014, 07:31 PM

Yikes that is terrible. I feel bad for you.

sthoemke · 03-10-2014, 07:39 PM

He has recently bought a few other complete sets from the 70's. I wonder if he he trying the same thing with other sellers.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&sort=3&_rdc=1

ryanvas · 03-10-2014, 07:58 PM

Call eBay and explain the situation, you didn't get back same cards, they were switched out. Don't let a POS get away with this. If its a trend and others call eBay you might have some recourse or at the least help prevent more. I'm sorry this happened to you.

Bhenry4 · 03-10-2014, 08:14 PM

Drive to his house and beat the $&@! outta him is what the recourse is.

bjsymes · 03-10-2014, 08:20 PM

I google earth'd his address, it's a Trailer Park.. even better right? But I do like your idea the best.

nordy22 · 03-10-2014, 08:21 PM

you could always buy his lots and return the favor.........

xDomePatrolx · 03-10-2014, 08:25 PM

Looks like he is selling lots of 72s, stars & highs. Buy them pull your cards then file a claim against him.

EDIT: Nordy beat me to it , but this might be your best recourse.

Bosox34 · 03-10-2014, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nordy22

you could always buy his lots and return the favor.........

Lol this made my day

cruiserdaddy7 · 03-10-2014, 08:31 PM

Buy them and return some 1988 Donruss to him

MW Connection · 03-10-2014, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjsymes

I had the worst thing happen to me regarding someone on eBay. I got a coupon code where I could list 1 item a day for 7 days with 0 seller fees going to eBay.... so I decided to sell a few things. I sold a 1972 Topps Baseball Complete Set that me and a buddy put together. It was in great shape. I plucked out cards and replaced with better ones. Some were off center, but they all had sharp corners and surfaces were great. The set sold for $911.01 which I was happy with. I packaged it extremely well and shipped to the winner via Priority mail. It arrived at the buyer's place 2 days later and he immediately filed a complaint on eBay against me, saying he wants a full refund, and cards were not as described. He said all the good cards were creased. (there wasn't a single card in the set that had a crease.)

Since I'm the seller, and I have no recourse, I had to offer him a refund after he shipped the set back to me. As I go through it, the good cards seemed to be the ones I shipped him. However, this dirtbag stole a ton of common and high number cards and replaced them with lower grade cards, creased, water damaged. And what can I do? NOTHING! because where's the proof? It's my word against his. So in all he gets all of his money back and he gets to upgrade his 72 set by stealing my cards.

BEERMANN13 is his ebay name.

Sick to my stomach over this.

so sorry to hear this.

report him. block him. move on.

briscogun · 03-10-2014, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanvas

Call eBay and explain the situation, you didn't get back same cards, they were switched out. Don't let a POS get away with this. If its a trend and others call eBay you might have some recourse or at the least help prevent more. I'm sorry this happened to you.

This is wise. Don't let him get away with it. This is theft. You could even let him know that filing charges against him is an option. Anything that is $500+ is a felony. And if he used the US mail to commit fraud, it's a federal offense. I'd call eBay and let them know what happened, and then seriously consider sending him an email using all kinds of big legal-type words, scare the bejeezus out of him if nothing else.

Hope this gets resolved for you, man. Good luck.

kyle1707 · 03-10-2014, 09:01 PM

Very common scam....

Disgusting but true

Bob Loblaw · 03-10-2014, 09:02 PM

What state is the buyer in?

GOWIFB · 03-10-2014, 09:06 PM

Man this sucks to hear. I am sure with a lot that big you probably didnt have anywhere close to every card scanned that you could show the card that you had was replaced. As others have said I would fight this tooth and nail. Maybe report it to the local police and to USPS as it could be mail fraud. Maybe also contact other sellers that he recently bought from and see if he did the same thing to them or not. Hope you can catch this sleeze

Coolstavi · 03-10-2014, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nordy22

you could always buy his lots and return the favor.........

THIS. I know it could be hard to do but think about what this person did to you.

theacox · 03-10-2014, 09:14 PM

Sure, the OP could do all these things you guys are talking about, but the burden of proof is on him. I doubt he could entertain thoughts of winning anything without extreme documentation of the minutia that no one ever does in a card transaction. Even if he could, it would likely cost him far more than he would ever recover in court.

bjsymes · 03-10-2014, 10:03 PM

He's in Iowa. I tried winning one of his auctions last night and was going to hold it to replace what he stole from me... but got Sniped last second.

kgsportscards · 03-10-2014, 11:39 PM

Sorry to hear, that sucks. I'm getting an invalid user name for him now, can't block. Did he change his name?

holyWahoos · 03-10-2014, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgsportscards

Sorry to hear, that sucks. I'm getting an invalid user name for him now, can't block. Did he change his name?

make sure it's all lowercase

cross4444 · 03-11-2014, 12:24 AM

Christy Beermann's (beermann13) Library | Photobucket

Here's ol Christy Beermann's photobucket.

Christy Beermann on Pinterest

Here's ol Christy Beermann's pinterest. I'm guessing Christy is the wife, and you're probably dealing with the man in the picture, Daniel. I'm not having much luck finding anything on Dan.

Honestly man, we're talking close to a $1000 stolen from you. In Iowa, this is classified as an Aggravated Misdemeanor Theft which carries up to two years prison time. If he had stolen over $1000, it'd be a felony. Contact Ebay by phone and save all correspondence and evidence. Let them know that if the situation can't be resolved, you'll be pressing charges. There's no reason you can't get your money back if you're willing to work for it.

holyWahoos · 03-11-2014, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cross4444

Christy Beermann's (beermann13) Library | Photobucket

Here's ol Christy Beermann's photobucket.

Christy Beermann on Pinterest

Here's ol Christy Beermann's pinterest. I'm guessing Christy is the wife, and you're probably dealing with the man in the picture, Daniel. I'm not having much luck finding anything on Dan.

Honestly man, we're talking close to a $1000 stolen from you. In Iowa, this is classified as an Aggravated Misdemeanor Theft which carries up to two years prison time. If he had stolen over $1000, it'd be a felony. Contact Ebay by phone and save all correspondence and evidence. Let them know that if the situation can't be resolved, you'll be pressing charges. There's no reason you can't get your money back if you're willing to work for it.

And the Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/christy.beermann

03-10-2014, 07:26 PM	#1
bjsymes Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 10	Worst Ebay Experience I had the worst thing happen to me regarding someone on eBay. I got a coupon code where I could list 1 item a day for 7 days with 0 seller fees going to eBay.... so I decided to sell a few things. I sold a 1972 Topps Baseball Complete Set that me and a buddy put together. It was in great shape. I plucked out cards and replaced with better ones. Some were off center, but they all had sharp corners and surfaces were great. The set sold for $911.01 which I was happy with. I packaged it extremely well and shipped to the winner via Priority mail. It arrived at the buyer's place 2 days later and he immediately filed a complaint on eBay against me, saying he wants a full refund, and cards were not as described. He said all the good cards were creased. (there wasn't a single card in the set that had a crease.) Since I'm the seller, and I have no recourse, I had to offer him a refund after he shipped the set back to me. As I go through it, the good cards seemed to be the ones I shipped him. However, this dirtbag stole a ton of common and high number cards and replaced them with lower grade cards, creased, water damaged. And what can I do? NOTHING! because where's the proof? It's my word against his. So in all he gets all of his money back and he gets to upgrade his 72 set by stealing my cards. BEERMANN13 is his ebay name. Sick to my stomach over this.

03-10-2014, 07:30 PM	#3
bd3d86 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 11,871 bd3d86	Wow....sorry to hear that. He will be blocked.... __________________ Always looking for Detroit Tigers certified autographs that I don't have....GO TIGERS!!! My Collection: http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/gallery/78008-my-detroit-tigers-autograph-pc-take-look-scan-heavy.html

03-10-2014, 07:31 PM	#5
theacox Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Sconnie Posts: 2,802 theacox	Yikes that is terrible. I feel bad for you. __________________ Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.

03-10-2014, 07:39 PM	#6
sthoemke Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 6,542 sthoemke sthoemke	He has recently bought a few other complete sets from the 70's. I wonder if he he trying the same thing with other sellers. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&sort=3&_rdc=1 __________________ [signature goes here]

03-10-2014, 08:14 PM	#8
Bhenry4 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Charm City Posts: 13,996 bhendu1	Drive to his house and beat the $&@! outta him is what the recourse is. __________________ Viva John Ryno

03-10-2014, 07:28 PM	#2
maryvillereb Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: maryville,tn Posts: 3,112 jglover004	now that is an ebay horror story! DAMN!

03-10-2014, 07:30 PM	#4
daveyou Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 1,305	wow damn....sorry to hear that. blocked immediately looking at his auctions, as recently yesterday, he has 1,612 "1972 topps" completed auctions... 1972 topps from beermann13 \| eBay dave

03-10-2014, 07:58 PM	#7
ryanvas Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,830 ryanvas Ryanvas	Call eBay and explain the situation, you didn't get back same cards, they were switched out. Don't let a POS get away with this. If its a trend and others call eBay you might have some recourse or at the least help prevent more. I'm sorry this happened to you.

03-10-2014, 08:20 PM	#9
bjsymes Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 10	I google earth'd his address, it's a Trailer Park.. even better right? But I do like your idea the best.

03-10-2014, 08:21 PM	#10
nordy22 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 10,981 nordy22 nordy22	you could always buy his lots and return the favor......... __________________ nordy22 on breakers.tv @nordy22 on twitter

03-10-2014, 08:25 PM	#11
xDomePatrolx Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: USA Posts: 2,596 xCharlesInCardsx	Looks like he is selling lots of 72s, stars & highs. Buy them pull your cards then file a claim against him. EDIT: Nordy beat me to it , but this might be your best recourse.

03-10-2014, 08:31 PM	#13
cruiserdaddy7 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,623 Cruiserdaddy7	Buy them and return some 1988 Donruss to him __________________ Show me your friends and I'll show you your future.

03-10-2014, 09:01 PM	#16
kyle1707 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20,723	Very common scam.... Disgusting but true

03-10-2014, 09:02 PM	#17
Bob Loblaw Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Spring Training Paradise, FL Posts: 13,050	What state is the buyer in?

03-10-2014, 09:06 PM	#18
GOWIFB Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 5,931	Man this sucks to hear. I am sure with a lot that big you probably didnt have anywhere close to every card scanned that you could show the card that you had was replaced. As others have said I would fight this tooth and nail. Maybe report it to the local police and to USPS as it could be mail fraud. Maybe also contact other sellers that he recently bought from and see if he did the same thing to them or not. Hope you can catch this sleeze __________________ Collecting 2007 Sweet Spot Classic Patches and anything Wisconsin! My photobucket: http://s451.photobucket.com/albums/qq239/GOWIFB/

03-10-2014, 09:14 PM	#20
theacox Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Sconnie Posts: 2,802 theacox	Sure, the OP could do all these things you guys are talking about, but the burden of proof is on him. I doubt he could entertain thoughts of winning anything without extreme documentation of the minutia that no one ever does in a card transaction. Even if he could, it would likely cost him far more than he would ever recover in court. __________________ Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.

03-10-2014, 10:03 PM	#21
bjsymes Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 10	He's in Iowa. I tried winning one of his auctions last night and was going to hold it to replace what he stole from me... but got Sniped last second.

03-10-2014, 11:39 PM	#22
kgsportscards Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 449 kgsportscards909 kgsportscards	Sorry to hear, that sucks. I'm getting an invalid user name for him now, can't block. Did he change his name? __________________ -KG HD Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/kgsportscards

03-11-2014, 12:24 AM	#24
cross4444 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 718 old44merchandise cross4444	Christy Beermann's (beermann13) Library \| Photobucket Here's ol Christy Beermann's photobucket. Christy Beermann on Pinterest Here's ol Christy Beermann's pinterest. I'm guessing Christy is the wife, and you're probably dealing with the man in the picture, Daniel. I'm not having much luck finding anything on Dan. Honestly man, we're talking close to a $1000 stolen from you. In Iowa, this is classified as an Aggravated Misdemeanor Theft which carries up to two years prison time. If he had stolen over $1000, it'd be a felony. Contact Ebay by phone and save all correspondence and evidence. Let them know that if the situation can't be resolved, you'll be pressing charges. There's no reason you can't get your money back if you're willing to work for it.